worst personality type to be

[peoplesuck]

I am still learning about typology so i cant say much for other types. In my exp. being an Intp sucks a lot. I only know one other INTP and im 99% sure hes Entp since he knows nothing about personal space. I cant relate to anyone i know and lets be honest, misery loves company. What is your opinion and how many intps do you know?

I think this is the right area for the thread idk sorry if not.

 

[Analyzer]

I would rank in order of most difficult to be, especially when younger:

INFP
INTP
ISFP
ISTP
INFJ
ENTP
INTJ
ESTP
ENFJ
ENFP
ENTJ
ESFP
ISFJ
ESFJ
ISTJ
ESTJ

*Notice how I think being ESTJ is the easiest and their "opposite" is the INFP which has the most trouble.
*In general IPs have it hardest, SJs easiest.

 

[Base groove]

ISFJ get no credit here. What's with that? They're not an easy type to be; they do not have easy lives.

 

[peoplesuck]

Im going to buy -gifts differing- a book about myer brigs, anyone read it?

 

[Analyzer]

ISFJ get no credit here. What's with that? They're not an easy type to be; they do not have easy lives.

lol hardest of the SJs I would say. Even though they are the most understanding, they can always fall back on traditions and rules if needed.

 

[Base groove]

lol hardest of the SJs I would say. Even though they are the most understanding, they can always fall back on traditions and rules if needed.

ISFJs are extremely quiet and easily fall victims to abuse and peer pressure. They are constantly under pressure to open up/come out of their shell but find it quite difficult to do so. They don't have as easy of an escape as NP types do (who can just ... exit the world, depart at will, basically).

ISFJs are too grounded to make a fantasy escape into dream-land, or detach from reality without violating their Fe, especially with S-dominance/N-inferior. The poor souls are just locked in to whatever momentary feeling they can grab on to based on what they can see six inches in front of/ (behind) the tip of their nose.

They want to contribute, and have connections, and ... whatever shit you said, oh yeah "fall back on traditions" (explain this nonsense so it becomes relevant, would you?) ... but they're constantly battling with their introversion which is easily as strong as any other introverted type.

Basically you get an INTP who cares waaay more what people think and has wayyy less ability to reason their way out of existence.

 

[peoplesuck]

Do intps care at all? Life is more simple when these are your problems though, abuse is bad in any case i would know but wanting to contribute sounds normal. I am terible with people so i may have nothing to really add.

 

[Analyzer]

ISFJs are extremely quiet and easily fall victims to abuse and peer pressure. They are constantly under pressure to open up/come out of their shell but find it quite difficult to do so. They don't have as easy of an escape as NP types do (who can just ... exit the world, depart at will, basically).

ISFJs are too grounded to make a fantasy escape into dream-land, or detach from reality without violating their Fe, especially with S-dominance/N-inferior. The poor souls are just locked in to whatever momentary feeling they can grab on to based on what they can see six inches in front of/ (behind) the tip of their nose.

They want to contribute, and have connections, and ... whatever shit you said, oh yeah "fall back on traditions" (explain this nonsense so it becomes relevant, would you?) ... but they're constantly battling with their introversion which is easily as strong as any other introverted type.

Basically you get an INTP who cares waaay more what people think and has wayyy less ability to reason their way out of existence.

I see what your saying. I know isfjs pretty well and your right about them needing to feel needed. Maybe my list is not fair but basically I was saying since isfjs have si/Fe they have less of a problem assimilating and accepting social norms. Even though they might want to be more like entps with ne/ti last, they are more comfortable in si/Fe mode. I personably get along and connect with isfjs the most out of all the sensors. Istp a close second.

 

[Base groove]

I see what your saying. I know isfjs pretty well and your right about them needing to feel needed. Maybe my list is not fair but basically I was saying since isfjs have si/Fe they have less of a problem assimilating and accepting social norms. Even though they might want to be more like entps with ne/ti last, they are more comfortable in si/Fe mode. I personably get along and connect with isfjs the most out of all the sensors. Istp a close second.

For some reason I get along ok with ISFJs. I dunno maybe I am one. ESFPs I rarely get along with. They all think I'm fucking weird (even the ones I do get along with).

I'd say they really got the short end of the stick with the CFs and attitudes.

ISFPs didn't get shafted in the same way (don't ... .. this is not a sexual innuendo)

 

[Pizzabeak]

Probably intp, but it might also be *one of the best* types to encompass

istj is probably the best so you don't have to worry about much
i wouldn't say esfp is the worst, at least they have a somewhat innocent quality about them

there's this one isfj guy i might know. he might not even be isfj though. my friend's friend. she introduced him to her family and they reportedly liked him, said he was nice and joked about me being evil in contrast. he seems chill.. he apparently is awfully concerned with reputation. also, every time i see him around he always tries to stare in the direction i am but it's super obvious and annoying. i'm sure i do that to some people sometimes too, though. i'm probably an incarnation of isfj that had been traumatized and thinks he's something else and is deliberately & adamantly trying to get immersed in respective communities.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

I think being INFP sucks a lot.

 

[Pizzabeak]

I think being tranny is great

 

[nanook]

let's keep in mind, it's relative to the society you live in.


if you can't make friends because social fears isolate you (hyperfocus on differences, incompatibilities, in a world full of subcultures) and you don't have the toughness to do business either, if you can't be happy with anything as it is, can't agree with society, thus can't derive self-worth from doing a slave job, because your mind is full of idealistic deductions, if you don't have any far sightedness and are caught in habits, in the urge to feel comfortable and you are hypersensitive to stress and can't wind down again. you are made to be a potter, to do beautiful art and understand the harmony of natural life, to live with least resistance. you are not made for a society that goes against harmony in every possible way.

but if you were to live in a venus project, populated by hippies? almost the best type to be. and you could go beyond pottery and be an engineer.

 

[Anktark]

I am gonna go with 'none', because the answer will depend on who is giving it. If I knew what I know now and had to be(come) ESFJ, I would start contemplating suicide two weeks into that endeavour. Respectively, ESFJ thinks that I am rather mental.
It seems to me that all personality types are just fine, when judging from their point of reference. Sure, INFP might have the lowest lows, but about the highs? Don't they eventually even out?

 

[TheManBeyond]

I feel like everyone thinks i'm mental just when they get to know me on a more personal level they just think i'm weird.

 

[peoplesuck]

@ANTARK you have to take social adjustment into consideration.

 

[Brontosaurie]

ISFJs ...

quality post

 

[Anktark]

@ANTARK you have to take social adjustment into consideration.

If by that you mean that some types have to put more effort into social adjustment or become limited/get hurt by that process, then I did not take that into consideration, but it doesn't change my opinion on the matter. Still, it's a good point to be aware of, thank you.
If that's not what you meant, then please explain it to me in more detail.

 

[Cherry Cola]

1. INFJ, INFP, ISFJ, INTP
2. INTJ
3. The rest in some kind of order.

Base Groove with da truth.

 

[Jennywocky]

I think it's hard to say what type is "worst to be" without knowing what environment we are talking about.

Being a bird sucks 500 feet under in the Indian Ocean; being a fish sucks flopping around on Pike's Peak; but switch their locations and they'll likely do just fine. EDIT: Looks like Nanook kind of hit on this...

The ISFJ analyses have some validity, but if you're in an SJ environment where that mindset gives you a particular niche to fill and you receive actual support from your SJ community, then you'll do better than some other types. You will understand and be understood by others in your support group.

Im going to buy -gifts differing- a book about myer brigs, anyone read it?

Yeah, a lot time ago. Wish I could remember what was in it versus in all the other MBTI books I've read... but hey, at least Myers wrote it.

 

[peoplesuck]

What do you all think the most socially awkward type is? Intp imo!

 

[Brontosaurie]

What do you all think the most socially awkward type is? Intp imo!

ISTJ

least probably ENFP, ENFJ, INFJ, ISFJ, ISTP, ESTP

(in no particular order)

 

[Cherry Cola]

Some are awkward when it comes to personal relationships but excel in public (ESTPs for instance). Need to think this over a bit.

Suffice to say ENFP, ENFJ, ISFJ, ESFP, INFJ if healthy are probably the leat awkward.

The most awkward types are ISTJ, INTP, INFP (though the the latter is just initially awkward with people).

 

[peoplesuck]

My friends said i remind them of micheal cera ._.

 

[Jennywocky]

My friends said i remind them of micheal cera ._.

Well, at least if this is the end, you'll die first.

Spoiler

 

[peoplesuck]

OMG his face matches my reaction to your post xD its a sign i am the re-still living -incarnation of micheal cera.

 

[Base groove]

OMG his face matches my reaction to your post xD its a sign i am the re-still living -incarnation of micheal cera.

Is he an ISFJ?

T.C. says ... "maybe".

BG says ... "totally"

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

ISTJ

least probably ENFP, ENFJ, INFJ, ISFJ, ISTP, ESTP

(in no particular order)

ISTP ??
They are nearly after INTP in being socialy awkward

 

[Decaf]

What do you all think the most socially awkward type is? Intp imo!

Probably either the least common or those that prefer the functions that are least represented by the local culture they grew up in. Extraverted people can be just as socially awkward as the introverted (just typically more visibly so).

We probably rank up there as INTPs as we are one of the least common types, but depending on your culture, that may or may not be a problem. In the US, where the culture leans toward being extraverted and sensory, the socialization constructs that help people socialize are typically not designed with an introverted intuitive's needs in mind. If you lived in Japan, for instance, you would likely find the local culture to be more accommodating.

That being said, just because the constructs aren't there to assist, doesn't mean you grow up to be socially awkward. It's just that you often have to compromise a bit. Some people pretend to be normal (which often sets up bad self-care habits), while others look for the cracks to find their niche. Remember, least common is not "last one on Earth". This forum, for example, is an excellent example of a socialization construct. In this case, built by a subculture that was able to reach critical mass through the internet rather than face to face.

 

[Brontosaurie]

ISTP ??
They are nearly after INTP in being socialy awkward

no. they are cool as fuck and well liked, well respected people appreciated for their level-headed concrete problem solving abilities, their cynical humor and their individuality.

like INTP's with a real tangible use in ordinary situations.

 

[cockroach king]

My girlfriend is an INFP, and while the lows are pretty damn low, I'd say that it usually evens out. However, being a severely emotionally scarred INFP definitely would be the worst. But INFPs have a weird ability to put themselves in a magical fairy-tale of reality where "everything happens for a reason" and nonsensical things like that, which help them exist without crumbling

 

[mrrhq]

Worst personality type?
ISFP.
Just, God...... why do these creatures exist?

 

[ddspada]

I am gonna go with 'none', because the answer will depend on who is giving it. If I knew what I know now and had to be(come) ESFJ, I would start contemplating suicide two weeks into that endeavour. Respectively, ESFJ thinks that I am rather mental.
It seems to me that all personality types are just fine, when judging from their point of reference. Sure, INFP might have the lowest lows, but about the highs? Don't they eventually even out?

An ESFP girlfriend I had a couple of months back told me more or less out of the blue that if she suddenly had to behave and think the way I do, she would commit suicide rather soon. She then proceeded to invite to think more like her. .-.
In her words, "life without feeling is not worth living, and you feel too little".

(We broke up very soon after)

 

[grayskies]

I am still learning about typology so i cant say much for other types. In my exp. being an Intp sucks a lot. I only know one other INTP and im 99% sure hes Entp since he knows nothing about personal space. I cant relate to anyone i know and lets be honest, misery loves company. What is your opinion and how many intps do you know?

I think this is the right area for the thread idk sorry if not.

I know exactly what you mean; and I'm still learning as well. For me, the worst is any type with "E" and "F" that I'm aware of so far.

What is your opinion and how many intps do you know?

I personally don't know anyone who is an INTP outside of online. I'm actually an INTJ but have found that I get along more with INTP's which is why I'm here on this forum than the INTJ one. The INTP's in the INTJ forum are really great; so I decided to look for a forum for INTP's who I rather converse with.

 

[Base groove]

An ESFP girlfriend I had a couple of months back told me more or less out of the blue that if she suddenly had to behave and think the way I do, she would commit suicide rather soon. She then proceeded to invite to think more like her. .-.
In her words, "life without feeling is not worth living, and you feel too little".

yeah that's ESFPs alright ... you've sure got their number lol

Always wanting what they think is best for everybody, but too shallow to actually contemplate multiple layers of truth or alternate perspectives of reality.

Try to complicate things, even a bit, and they just laugh at you or get frustrated because everything is so plain in their eyes.

 

[walfin]

I think being INFP sucks a lot.

Yeah. Not sure if it's the bottom, though. I should think ISFPs have an equally hard time.

 

[Cherry Cola]

no. they are cool as fuck and well liked, well respected people appreciated for their level-headed concrete problem solving abilities, their cynical humor and their individuality.

like INTP's with a real tangible use in ordinary situations.

Haha word

 

[praisetehsun]

I might start a new thread concerning this, but for now it seems to fit this one.
The situations and environments matter when deducing which is the most socially awkward or the type which is the hardest to be. We couldn't/wouldn't bother outlining all of these environments because that would be pretty boring and tedious/obvious.
What Is interesting in my opinion is what age is the "optimal point" for a type?
For an ESTJ could be well rounded and suited to the world from the start, but enjoys and fits the world to a greater extent at 30 years old (or whatever age).
And perhaps an INTP would reach his point at 25 or so.

Or am I just trying to stratify what is completely personal and circumstantial? Halp plez.

 

[lulabelle]

Yeah. Not sure if it's the bottom, though. I should think ISFPs have an equally hard time.

Naw. They have Se so they tend to focus more on the moment (less rumination). Here's a keirsey chart about MBTI types and happiness/unhappiness levels:

http://keirsey.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/happiness_survey_graph.gif

 

[ASquare183]

ENTPs crave socializing, but they're not very good at it. That would be kind of tough.

 

[ASquare183]

NTs and SFs pity each other, but have zero perspective on what it's like to be one another.

 

[ae1905]

Naw. They have Se so they tend to focus more on the moment (less rumination). Here's a keirsey chart about MBTI types and happiness/unhappiness levels:

http://keirsey.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/happiness_survey_graph.gif

This survey was conducted by Keirsey? If we take it at face value, the things that stand out are that extroversion-introversion pretty much neatly divides the happy from the not-as-happy and that the Te-doms and Ti-doms, in particular, lie at opposite ends of the scale. So one key to happiness, apparently, is to do more and think less. Sound right?

Another way to look at it is the introverts should try to emulate or access their extroverted shadows to achieve greater happiness. So INTPs should become more like ENTJs, ISTPs more like ESTJs, and so on. This deduction is also suggested in another thread entitled, "INTP becoming INTJ" where the OP, I think, mistakes his transformation to ENTJ for INTJ.

 

[nearfantastica]

no. they are cool as fuck and well liked, well respected people appreciated for their level-headed concrete problem solving abilities, their cynical humor and their individuality.

Haha. I know an ISTP that could probably be classified under all that you've said and is still very awkward. He's even admitted it.

 

[ae1905]

The general rule is probably that the type that has the most trouble is the one that is most unlike the society he lives in. The US, for example, could be characterized as ESTJ in which case INFPs would feel most out of place. INTPs, otoh, should feel most alienated in a ESFJ society. ESFJ is not that far from ESTJ so it's not suprising INTPs would feel misunderstood here. In fact, the US doesn't have a strong thinking preference--it's marginal--so for all intents and purposes this is the worst place for INTPs.

But this question betrays part of the problem. ENTJs don't generally sit around bemoaning their condition. They get up and do something about it. It's the act of doing that gives them the sense of control over their lives and it's that control that makes them feel happier.

Self-pity is not a winning sentiment.

 

[Yellow]

I'm not an expert in this area, but I would say INFJ is the worst personality to be. They have the hardest life, hands down.

Spoiler

1. Without a strong strong foundation (sense of self, self-esteem, etc.) they are easily broken down by the harshness of the world.

2. They think the world should be a good and just place. They want it more badly than anyone else, and it will never happen.

3. They are incredibly generous with their time and energy. While they expect this to be a two-way street, they never make that arrangement ahead of time and then get hurt when people aren't as willing give back. Okay, hurt is the wrong word. They display love through action, so when you don't reciprocate, they think that you are actively taking advantage of them. Those with a solid backbone will get angry. Those with low self esteem with feel like they've been used and found worthless.

4. They are the least common personality type, so it is (theoretically) hardest for them to find people who know how to interact with their personality and it is sometimes hard for them to understand others.

5. For all their generosity, they are inwardly focused, and take everything to heart and take nearly everything personally. While you are talking about the unexpected rain, they are mentally (or verbally) chiding themselves or defending their own choice to go without an umbrella. They often can't think beyond the (perceived or self-)accusation that they were personally unprepared to realize that the conversation really has nothing to do with them.

6. They are smart, intuitive, and emotional. They know what is rational, they know how they feel, and they often cannot reconcile the two things. Many seem to be in a never-ending battle with themselves over who they want to be and who they actually are.

7. Also, a lot of them think they are in touch with the spiritual world (they see ghosts, demons, see into your soul, get "feelings" about things, feel the Holy Spirit guiding them, etc.) and that's like a cherry on the sundae of being unable to happily function in a world full of assholes.

8. It is a stereotypically "female" personality. More so than any of the rest. So for an INFJ boy to grow up without some serious damage to his self-image is nearly impossible. At least an INFJ girl has a decent chance of being encouraged to be herself. An INFJ boy would require patient, open-minded parents and a fair bit of luck to grow up unscathed.

 

[StevenM]

I feel like everyone thinks i'm mental just when they get to know me on a more personal level they just think i'm weird.

When you get to know just about anyone, you realize that they are 'mental' in some way.

Some people are just very skilled at hiding it in the beginning. Then they start loosening up and show you their real colors.

 

[ddspada]

As far as external pressure against the self can go, I'd "rank" the types from best to worst to be:

ESTJ, ESFP, ESFJ > ESTP, ISTJ, ENTJ > ISFJ, ENFJ > ISTP, ENTP, ENFP > ISFP, INTJ > INTP, INFJ, INFP

Considering inner happiness or some other equivalent measure instead:

ESFJ > ESFP > ESTP >>> ENTJ, ESTJ, ISTJ, ISFJ > ENFP, ISTP, ENFJ, ENTP > ISFP >>> All INs.

 

[TheManBeyond]

for some intps life can be quite shitty

Spoiler

 

[StevenM]

I'm going to break this down analytically.

Out of the two attitudes, introverts and extroverts, I believe that introverts slightly have a harder time. In my culture, it is still very much an extrovert's world. The service-sector is growing in jobs, (especially retail) and there is less independent type work available. Engaging with many people, and teamwork trumps almost every other important skill in the workforce.

Ixxx's

Considering intuitives vs sensors, I think it's a no-brainer that intuitives don't have it as easy as sensors. Aside from being the most of a minority compared to the other MBTI dichotomies, the intuitive's innovative mind has to succumb to going against the herd in a very ritualistic culture. Standing out in their own way, with different ways of perceiving things than others, there may be a challenge trying fit in where the culture has built it's society mainly for the sensors.

INxx's

I honestly can't tell if thinkers or feelers have a harder time. It might be a close call, but instinctively, I believe feelers have it just slightly worse.

INFx's

So now we're comparing INFJ's vs INFP's in terms of being most challenging to be. Both are misunderstood, however, INFJ's are generally more well-received from others.

My thinking just quit, I'll leave my opinion as INFP's being the hardest type to be.