And yet, nothing happens outside of God's will remember? If those sinners exist in the first place, God must have willed it. If they rape and torture, God must have willed it.God has never raped or tortured or murdered anyone, that's just absurd.
Sinful human beings rape and torture and molest.
The only way it could not be so, is if God did not will it. But then that means things DO happen outside of God's will, and he is not in sovereign control of everything.
Yes I see now.Now do you see?
God is all powerful and all controlling, and it is by his will that people are raped, tortured, murdered, children are abused, beaten, molested. He wills malaria, famine and plague. These are all manifeststions of his will, because absolutely nothing happens that is not his will.
I see now that this is all okay, because there's a verse in the bible that justifies this as all just being in the pursuit of ultimate good - thereby making these things okay.
Which begs the question: if god is all powerful, all knowing and in sovereign control of everything, why does he not simply enact ultimate good? Why would such a being use such roundabout methods to achieve his goals?
I guess maybe he's all powerful...just really stupid and inefficient?