Why I am not here (but through a chain of strange events am)

[Beat Mango]

To make it short for now, I have been diagnosed with extreme Schizoid Personality Disorder (SPD) (the results were almost off the scales) and borderline-Asperger. However, there was one remarkable anomaly - my EQ is above average and much higher than it "should" be.

Bah... I don't buy it. Seems they're in the business of fitting squares into circles.

 

[Oblivious]

I think it would be safe to say that many of us on this forum can be classified as a schizoid. Yet at the same time, I think it would also be safe to say that we treasure the relationships we have with each other.

More than many real life relationships? I know of people who would say that this is sad, but then people who would do that are part of the problem as well. We do not tell them that because we value personal integrity in ourselves and the people we meet. If we are happy with what we are, then there should not be issues, and no one has the right to judge us.

We are simply individuals who value individualism and trust between people as sacred. Must this be a disorder?

 

[Oblivious]

http://www.videojug.com/interview/schizoid-personality-disorder

Why in the name of blueberry shortcakes is this even a disorder. Sounds perfectly normal to me.

 

[Cogwulf]

http://www.videojug.com/interview/schizoid-personality-disorder

Why in the name of blueberry shortcakes is this even a disorder. Sounds perfectly normal to me.

I think anything termed as a 'personality disorder' is when that aspect of your personality reaches a point where it noticeably interferes with your everyday life.

 

[Ermine]

While I don't want to make this into another thread over whether or not schizoid is a legitimate disorder, I'm really curious what they base that claim on, especially given your apparently high EQ. I thought SPD and Aspergers was partially characterized by a lack of EQ and being cold and aloof.

 

[Cogwulf]

While I don't want to make this into another thread over whether or not schizoid is a legitimate disorder, I'm really curious what they base that claim on, especially given your apparently high EQ. I thought SPD and Aspergers was partially characterized by a lack of EQ and being cold and aloof.

A low EQ is probably a symptom of these rather than an integral part. It's likely that EQ is something that has to be learnt, so people with things like aspergers will have poor EQ because they rarely involve themselves in social situations

 

[Beat Mango]

Actually I think Anthile's is an interesting case study in schizoidal personality in that it kind of shows how these psychology types think. I think that if you look at the origin of the term, it was most likely used to label somebody who had more extreme symptoms than the ones we exhibit here on INTPforum. In other words, the person was noticeably mad, not just slightly eccentric, so they try to come up with a word to fit it. In doing so, less extreme versions such as an INTP might come to see similarities between them and the schizoid, just like a moody person might see similarities between themselves and a borderline personality (or even better, how a whole lot of people are diagnosed with ADD now that they've come up with a term for it). In fact, schizoid disorder was initially seen as a bridging point between schizophrenia, to give you some idea of what I mean.

 

[snowqueen]

On thursday I was for one "day" at home (actually just two hours) to see if I can live there until I find an apartment. It turned out that I have no key. My uncle, who lives nearby, and my sister have a key but naturally no one was at home when I came so I had to climb through an open window to get my own key that was inside. That actually worked and I was almost surprised that no one saw me and called the police because they thought I was a burglar.
On friday I went to the TPU (Test-Psychologische Untersuchung - test-psychological examination) where I had to do a lot of tests - and among others the Eyes, EQ and SQ testthat have been posted here on the forum - followed by a long talk with a psychologist.
To make it short for now, I have been diagnosed with extreme Schizoid Personality Disorder (SPD) (the results were almost off the scales) and borderline-Asperger. However, there was one remarkable anomaly - my EQ is above average and much higher than it "should" be.

There are other ways of framing human behaviour than those limiting discourses from psychologists.

 

[Anthile]

I can't really comment on this because ... I don't know. I always felt and knew that I was different and even different from those who are different. It's not something I desire. My relationships to other humans are odd and I don't really understand these relationships. Since I was little the question whether I am more or less than a human bothers me because I'm not able to find a satisfying answer.

However, yesterday was an odd day. About one week ago I got a new room because one of the patients in the old room started yelling at me for no reason and without provocation from my side. In this room there are only two other patients, one in my age with borderline syndrome (his bedsheet is often bloody) and an older guy, about 45-55 years old who hears voices in his head, death screams to be exact. They are both very quiet and I talked to the borderline-guy several times because we sit at the same table during the meals. The older man looked south-east European and because people from Turkey are the largest group of immigrants in Germany I thought he was from there. After a week now without talking he suddenly talked to me yesterday - in English. He asked me about my name (I have a Croatian first name and a German surname - which confuses the heck out of people here) and he told me that he was from Kosovo and told me a lot of stuff about his family and the war and that he worked a long time in Croatia. For about one hour we talked in English. It all seemed so surreal, no, it actually still does.

 

[loveofreason]

*re-opens the holodeck and initiates Anthile's favourite scenario*

Welcome back to the 'real' world.

 

[Melkor]

I really,really should try and be both adult and supportive in this matter, but then, that would be just so very out of character wouldn't it?

-shakes head-

And...the most easiest and effective way of reassuring Anthile, is for everyone to act perfectly normally, and do nothing whatsoever that gives him reason to realise he is a complete and utter loony.

Therefore,I speedily conclude, I must respond to this in a way that is very me, and thus, very 'NORMAL', in the relativity of things.

-takes a big deep breath-



HHAAAAAHHHAAAAA!!!

ANTHILE'S IN THE LOOONNEYYY BIN!loooneylooneyloooney!!!!!

You've lost your mind!BONKERS!


Now you're in with the madmennn!!!CRAAA-ZZZEEEEEE!


MISTER ANTHILES WENT OFF THE RADAR!



Hhahahahhehehehohohohhhhaaa!!!!!


Don't forget your pills ma'am!

and watch out for the serial killers!

They are a very sexy bunch..

Shall we now refer to you as madthile?

OR

Crazymutafukthile,

or how about just plain
Awaywithitthile?

 

[Anthile]

I am currently at home again. My father packed all my stuff in boxes and it looks very empty here. Unfortunately the internet doesn't really work and I try to find out why. The only reason I can post this is because I sometimes can use an open WLAN network that for some reason is not protected but I seem to be too far away from it and it works only for 2-3 minutes before it disappears for an unknown time.
Maybe my father already doesn't pay for it anymore but the telephone works just fine. The "Online"-lamp on the router is on. Oddly enough, it's very hard to solve any connection problems without internet.

 

[Oblivious]

Tell them from the bottom of your heart. If they ask you why you are telling them, just ask them back if they want to know. Sit down and think about what you have to say. Tell your father how afraid of him you were. Tell your sister you are sorry for the trouble.

Who the hell am I kidding. I wouldn't do this with a gun pointed to my head.

Anthile: You might want to call your ISP for tech support. You seem to be on a wireless network which seems to be functioning ok if what you say is true. Either they cut the connection or its malfunctioning somewhere down the pipe. If they tell you your subscription's not cut then ask them to check signal strength of your modem.

 

[echoplex]

I noticed some people are saying things along the lines of "I never saw any signs...". I think a good point to take away from this thread is that anyone can have a mental breakdown. The madness waits for no one. Even the strong are weak. (you get the point)

Anthile, if you're able to access this forum, hopefully it may serve as a sort of therapy. I have no idea though, since I doubt I can imagine what you're going through.

And hopefully the diagnosis you received will help you in some way -- if even just to shed some light. Otherwise it's just a useless label.

 

[snowqueen]

The diagnosis is simply a pathological description. I doubt it can be of use because it only offers one set of possibilities and doesn't take into account the crazy context he was living in. You're right - given the right conditions, anyone can become unstable - and the form that takes may be the thing that is our particular 'tendency'. So some people become bipolar, others hear voices, others become paranoid etc. But it's rarely without some context. We have this extraordinary idea that we should be able to tolerate any assault on our senses or being or else we are deficient. Aside from Buddhist monks and utter bastards I doubt there are many people like that on the planet.

 

[Anthile]

Back.

 

[Claverhouse]

Splendid.

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Claverhouse

 

[preilemus]

yay

\o/

 

[Cavallier]

*Happy Dance!*

Wait...Ummm...

*happy slouch*

I am an INTP after all...I don't dance.