What's Class?

[digital angel]

Lets discuss "class." What is it?

There's class with respect to wealth and there's class with respect to the type of person you might be generally. It it all a facade? Arguably, it could all just be a facade.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Something that INTPs are usually late to.

 

[digital angel]

Something that INTPs are usually late to.

LOL.

 

[Cogwulf]

Class is wearing cubic zirconia jewellery, but not too much.

 

[Beat Mango]

Class is a way of differentiating yourself and your in-group from the "other", in order to protect yourself from manifestations of life's dark side, such as poverty, violence, unintelligence, etc.

 

[ElvenVeil]

Something that INTPs are usually late to.

Second that ^^

 

[xbox]

Growing up, I was taught that class was not being trashy. Etiquette and manners of how you talk, carry yourself, what you wear.

But then I never understood, because there were so many levels of it, in my opinion. And class had to do with how people looked on the outside more than they did in the inside. That threw me off a lot.

 

[GYX_Kid]

a rare aged ribeye steak.

 

[snafupants]

Class is not kicking someone in the teeth even though you could, probably should, and would if you lacked class.

 

[Iuanes]

Class, in a socioeconomic sense, is differential access to resources, a marxist would say the mode of production. Class is essentially a power relation.

 

[Solitaire U.]

Class is signaling your intention to turn left just like the car facing you on the other side of the intersection is doing, so when the light turns green you can both make your turns with confidence and be on your merry way. But class is also supposed to be represented by the 50+ grand SUVs that so frequently fail to do so. Hence, class is a place you waste years of your life sitting in so you can spend more years of your life driving in it, yet still fail miserably to ever actually achieve it.

 

[thoumyvision]

Class, in a socioeconomic sense, is differential access to resources, a marxist would say the mode of production. Class is essentially a power relation.

Historically, yes. However it's changing. Now it must take into account matters of education and culture as well. Eminem is wealthier (probably) than Colin Powell, however he is still of a lower social class in terms of political influence and respect. Lower might be the wrong word there, but it's hard to come up with a better one, any thoughts?

Maybe it is still a matter of resources, it is just too simplistic to limit those resources to economic ones. The political and educational resources Colin Powell can draw on are much stronger than those of Eminem. At a certain point the effectiveness of money reaches a cutoff and other factors must come into play.

 

[Hadoblado]

Class is signaling your intention to turn left just like the car facing you on the other side of the intersection is doing, so when the light turns green you can both make your turns with confidence and be on your merry way. But class is also supposed to be represented by the 50+ grand SUVs that so frequently fail to do so. Hence, class is a place you waste years of your life sitting in so you can spend more years of your life driving in it, yet still fail miserably to ever actually achieve it.

Class is what Solitaire U has

 

[MissQuote]

It is petty and shallow when another looks down on you for it, and it is something to cling to/remove yourself with when you are looking down on another.

Historically, yes. However it's changing. Now it must take into account matters of education and culture as well. Eminem is wealthier (probably) than Colin Powell, however he is still of a lower social class in terms of political influence and respect. Lower might be the wrong word there, but it's hard to come up with a better one, any thoughts?

Maybe it is still a matter of resources, it is just too simplistic to limit those resources to economic ones. The political and educational resources Colin Powell can draw on are much stronger than those of Eminem. At a certain point the effectiveness of money reaches a cutoff and other factors must come into play.

I find it interesting that you used Eminem as an example, as it was his lower class status that he drew on for his first inspiration, which led him to where he is monetarily (wherever that may be) now, as well as where he is now is a very public place where he has a high possibility of influence over a lot of people.

 

[Iuanes]

Historically, yes. However it's changing. Now it must take into account matters of education and culture as well. Eminem is wealthier (probably) than Colin Powell, however he is still of a lower social class in terms of political influence and respect. Lower might be the wrong word there, but it's hard to come up with a better one, any thoughts?

Maybe it is still a matter of resources, it is just too simplistic to limit those resources to economic ones. The political and educational resources Colin Powell can draw on are much stronger than those of Eminem. At a certain point the effectiveness of money reaches a cutoff and other factors must come into play.

Hmm, yes. But I mean, we're talking about groups of people here and generalities. Colin Powell and Eminem are individuals. Power is context dependent. In most situations I might say Colin Powell has more power than Eminem and a bigger machine at his disposal, but if Colin Powell found himself lost on the streets of Detroit and ran into Eminem's crew it would be a different story.

I think in reality however, neither Powell nor Eminem are as powerful or of the same class as the 'owner's of industry. One is a Mandarin and one is an entertainer. Neither are owners in a sense that makes a difference. (Eminem has a label I think).

Yes, influence and education play a factor here, but they are a means to an end. The indicator still isn't money, it's ownership of resources, ownership of capital and ownership of production.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

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This is class.