What evokes feeling in you?

[-ology]

As an INTP, I believe that am much less susceptible to the emotional side of things than other types may be.
However, when I do feel, I feel deeply, completely, and often for extended periods of time. It's a bit strange though, because I will either experience something close to euphoria, or become extremely upset and withdrawn. There is a fine line between these two states of being. They can be evoked by music (similarly, is there any sort of inherent connection between the INTP and music), poetry (a collection or my own writings), and sometimes even people (though I have only ever truly felt for two people).

Have any other INTP's experienced similar things? And, if not, what HAS evoked emotion in you?

 

[Ermine]

Music is my main gateway to emotion. That, and knowing I can start progressing by leaps and bounds. An example would be the euphoria I got when I was accepted into an art specialty center high school, precisely because it increased my creativity by leaps and bounds.

 

[-ology]

Yes, I feel like things that validate my notion that I am intelligent and will allow me to better myself also make me feel that way.

Music is...so interesting. I wonder who the very first person to make music was...

 

[Luzian]

weed and music <3
truly

 

[boku]

Music, anime/manga characters or people I can relate to.
Thinking about the future I might have sometimes makes me sad too.

 

[bdubs]

Yes, music is most definitely one of my way to envoke feelings. I think that might be one of the reasons I am not too fond of sharing my favoirte songs with others. I agree with boku about anime/manga characters. There are a few animes that have connected with me over the years. I find its one of the few visual mediums that can.

 

[lucazin]

Music make me fell so high or so deeply sad that I've to say that if you want to know what I'm felling, just listen to what I'm listening and try to understand.

Fantasy books have the same felling inside me, though in a different way, because when I finish a book, I try to understand everything about the incredible of that adventure or of that world and link in my own world what make me fell sad because I see who it lost imagination for a more practical way of life.

Sad...

 

[Jesin]

Don't forget some video games.

 

[Anthile]

Don't forget some video games.

I actually cried at the end of Baldur´s Gate 2. It was somewhat weird, because I had a better relationship to some NPCs in a computer game than to nearly all people out there.
The other game that evoked such deep feelings was Planescape: Torment.
Oh, and probably Terranigma.
But it was never released in the USA, I heard, so probably no one knows it here.

 

[-ology]

Yes, music is most definitely one of my way to envoke feelings. I think that might be one of the reasons I am not too fond of sharing my favoirte songs with others.

Me too. I always get sort of flustered and choked up when people ask me about the music I listen to. I think they tend to take it as me not listening to much music, when really it's the complete opposite. I just have a hard time sharing with them because I feel like I would be handing them my emotions or something. :/

 

[Da Blob]

The Magic of Music.
i actually have the folders in my itunes library labeled with emotional titles,
Sad, Happy, Silly, Angry, Remote folders.
Music is such a Right-brain thing...

 

[JoeJoe]

Speaking of music: I usually just listen to radio music. But I play the cello and my teacher pays great attention on that I play emotionally. And the onyl way to do that is by really feeling the emotion and pouring the emotion into your playing, trying to express what you feel by the way you play it. It's good for Fe development.

 

[fullerene]

Two words: Elfen Lied

 

[boku]

Two words: Elfen Lied

I totally agree. One of the must watch anime.

 

[Zezon Vice]

Music certainly has its effects on me. Though I am a much better drummer than guitarist, I enjoy guitar much more as I can draw up several different emotions as compared to the fewer I feel from drumming.

 

[-ology]

I play the flute and a bit of piano.
And I've always been interested in learning some sort of string instrument.

Do most of you play instruments? Is music yet another system to master?

 

[Fedayeen]

Only thing that has evoked any sort of emotion in a very long time is an ENFJ, but it evokes enough emotion to make up for the lack.

 

[Tiger]

*types elfen lied into google in another window "will it be worth downloading?"*

alot of music i hear on the radio irritates me. lmaybe ike you, da blob, my emotion and the emotion of the music i listen must be insync (no pun intended!!)
certain kinds of anger wont let me listen to music, though. its the same kind that blocks my creativity.

 

[boku]

Do most of you play instruments? Is music yet another system to master?

I'm not musically inclined, but I have do have a harmonica to play simple tunes with.

*types elfen lied into google in another window "will it be worth downloading?"*

Some of the interesting stuff about Elfen Lied.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfen_Lied

Elfen Lied involves themes of social alienation, identity, animal cruelty, revenge, child abuse, jealousy and the value of humanity. The series employs graphic violence and nudity, especially the graphic opening sequence of the first episode. So far, only the thirteen-episode anime series has been licensed in the United States, by ADV Films and in Australia, by Madman Entertainment. ADV Films said the series was one of their bestselling and "most notorious" releases of 2005.

Bolded what I think INTPs might like about the anime.

The opening and ending sequences feature artistic drawings of the principal characters. These characters are drawn in a style based on Gustav Klimt's paintings, including The Kiss, Adele Bloch-Bauer I, and others with similar imitating poses, colors, and patterns.

One of the few anime that had me tearing up. At first it seemed like mindless killing, but that's just bait for violence-loving people to continue watching. Plus, the soundtrack suits the dark and serious theme very nicely.

YouTube- Elfen Lied -- Lilium (Music Box)
Lilium music box version of the opening song (which is sung in Latin). A very beautiful and sad piece, definitely my favourite track from the anime.

*stops posting before she gets off topic*

 

[Perseus]

Feelings experienced most often are

1) sexual pressure
2) goodwill ambience
3) seething anger

Less often

4) hatred by others
5) endomorphins from others (sometimes unwanted)
6) caustic explosions of anger
7) extreme logic distress (4th inferior)
8) sexual activity and fucking
9) creepiness manipulation by others (distress)


Rare

10) anxiety panic attacks
11) dread attacks

The source is sometimes difficult to determine. This causes bewilderment and confusion.

 

[Wisp]

Another vote toward the music thing.

I play cello, am learning guitar, and can sing, so I play as well.

 

[Jordan~]

Music, art, poetry, films: art, generally.
Terrible injustice, too.

 

[fullerene]

oh... and YouTube- MORE

I forgot about that one, but I'm pretty sure it messed up my insides the first time I saw it, haha.

 

[Jordan~]

This made me cry recently.

 

[LucasM]

Going to the middle of nowhere on a clear night and watching the stars.

Going in the middle of a forest where no humans go, where everything is in beautiful organized chaos, and life just gets on fine without us humans coming in and fricking things up.

The 'Christian' week at the university where they honestly think that by singing and spreading awareness, they can help remedy the world situation when instead they are missing the whole big picture.

Bars. Bars would be among the most depressing places to work, right up there with malls.

 

[Jesin]

Going to the middle of nowhere on a clear night and watching the stars.

Going in the middle of a forest where no humans go, where everything is in beautiful organized chaos, and life just gets on fine without us humans coming in and fricking things up.

Yes, that can be pretty awesome.

 

[sagewolf]

My iPod is possibly one of the most private things I own. We needed to find iPod docking stations recently for a project (do not ask) and the teacher couldn't believe almost no-one had one. When he asked me "why do you not have one?" I couldn't think of an answer. Why would I have one? It's a personal music player for a reason. Music is one of the few ways I can unashamedly and comfortably express emotions, and they are MY emotions. I don't want anyone else knowing what my music is, because that would be like telling them what gets to the deepest, darkest part of me.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

i agree.

what are you into?

 

[LucasM]

"Space the Tramp" by A-Spacer, download at http://www.mp3.com/free-music/11-A/all-free-music
This evokes feeling, especially as it is not about the destination but rather the journey. If you are half asleep, I'd recommend as you can sink into it and feel like you are floating in space.
But, no, I am NOT usually good at picking music, thus the radio.

[edit] Also, at http://www.mp3.com/free-music/11-A/all-free-music?pg_audio=3 the song Drifting Emotions by AJL really gets at me. By the# of downloads, my tastes differ from others.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

At "-ology"
Is your avatar a fish-eyed picture of a japanese train?

Personally my taste in music changes with my emotional state
Very happy/relaxed: Classical, Frank Sinatra, Jazz
Not so damn happy: Metallica, linkin park, whatever

Society seems to have a stigma against negative emotions, but in my opinion both positive and negative emotions can be enjoyed. Responsibly.

 

[Jordan~]

Cognisant: I feel the same way about emotions. I've never been diagnosed, but people around me are pretty sure I have major depressive disorder (I'd rather not define it and I don't think it's that extreme, and if I do, then it's certainly bipolar II disorder). Point is, they think I get so sad I should seek help. But I don't know exactly what "help" I would seek. I would never want to lose those episodes, they're a part of me - and why is happiness a worthy goal, anyway? It's just a response to a set of conditions that are favourable for satisfying needs that are readily satisfied in the modern world, anyway. What's better about happiness than sorrow? Saying that one prefers the feeling of being happy seems redundant: happiness is the feeling of having what one prefers. Being sad can be equally as rich and deep a feeling, and I don't see why I should forsake that aspect of myself.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Thanks for sharing, that was very deep.

Although I would to express that my views are based upon my belief that emotion is just one aspect of a universal irrelevance and that the constant search for happyness whilst avoiding suffering is likewise pointless and ultimatly futile.
Thus I can choose my emotional state at will and enjoy both sides of the metaphorical coin, much like alternating between sweet and sour foods.

I recommend Nihilism to all INTPs, initially it can cause depression but once you understand the truths of relevance and detachment then even hell could be enjoyed.

I have moved beyond being an athiest, but where am I going?
Can the human mind withstand universal objectivity?
Only one way to find out.

 

[Jordan~]

Re: Hell being enjoyed.
My response to Pascal's Wager is that if God turns out to be real in the event of my death, I would be pleased. Eternal agony is preferable to nonexistence. Feeling anything at all reminds us we're alive - seeking experience, rather than positive or negative experience, is still an effort to satisfy the survival instinct.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

I believe is the most likely outcome of death, due to the fact that being able to enjoy hell defeats the purpose of their being a hell/Heavan.
Or does it? *wanders off talking to himself*

Assuming nonexistance is the outcome then existance is rendered irrelevant and nothing is lost, thus there is no need for grief, regret or fear.
Another perspective is that non-existance couldn't be any better or worse than life.

...what was the topic again?

 

[Jordan~]

I agree, it's irrational to avoid death. I still don't want to die, though.

Edit: Oh! I thought of a reason why. If I die, I'll never be able to find out if there's a reason not to die. There may well be a logical reason to avoid death; and if I were to fail to do so, I would be acting with insufficient information.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

It's not irrational to seek immortality; grief and fear are irrational.

I have plans...

 

[Jordan~]

What's rational about not wanting to die? Serious question, it'd be nice to know.

 

[Da Blob]

What's rational about not wanting to die? Serious question, it'd be nice to know.

Death would interrupt any plans you have for the weekend...

or, in fact, interrupt all your plans for the future
I think most people have a rather long list
of things they hope to do (before death)
I don't fear death - I hope for it.
I have a particular goal to achieve in the Afterlife.
However, at the same time I still have a
number of items I hope to cross off of my "To Do' list...

 

[Carinthian]

I tend to feel love, if ever, but when I do it tends to come big. Like now -_-.

 

[Jordan~]

Death would interrupt any plans you have for the weekend...

or, in fact, interrupt all your plans for the future
I think most people have a rather long list
of things they hope to do (before death)
I don't fear death - I hope for it.
I have a particular goal to achieve in the Afterlife.
However, at the same time I still have a
number of items I hope to cross off of my "To Do' list...

But what's rational about not wanting your plans to be interrupted?

 

[Weliddryn]

lol, apparently what evokes feeling in me is being too tired, having a head ache, and people talking about sensitivity.
Ah, the teenage years, what a wonderful time......

 

[EditorOne]

The smell of autumn leaves makes me sort of sad or sadly aware of the passage of time or something like that. It evokes an emotion akin to nostalgia without any specific associations.

Cold rain, when I'm inside by a wood stove, evokes contentment, a sense of well being, especially if the wind is rattling the rain against the window.

Any time I'm outside in adverse weather yet still comfortable I have a feeling of satisfaction, of having coped successfully (and intelligently).

 

[FacetiousPersona]

An innocent dog being brutally murdered while I observe from my window. My heart lightens up and I have a rare feeling of joy.

 

[Weliddryn]

An innocent dog being brutally murdered while I observe from my window. My heart lightens up and I have a rare feeling of joy.

What do you mean by innocent?

 

[Jordan~]

I'm hoping it was a joke. My immediate impulse would be to go out and inflict vengeance a hundredfold on the bastards.

...So I guess that scenario evokes feeling in me.

 

[FacetiousPersona]

What do you mean by innocent?

It was a Maltese. How could it not be 'innocent'.

 

[Weliddryn]

It was a Maltese. How could it not be 'innocent'.

Innocent:
a. Not experienced or worldly; naive.
b. Betraying or suggesting no deception or guile; artless.

A maltese can be very wordly in its own perception of its world. It can also have much experience in comparrison to other animals.
a. is based on comparrison and, by comparrison, the malese can easily be considered "not innocent".
As for b., the maltese's very appearance is a deception to its temperment:
The breed has a reputation for being good-natured, but may be intolerant of small children or other dogs. They can be protective of their owner and will bark or may bite if animals or people infringe on their territory or are perceived as a threat. (site: http://my-pet-medicine.com/2006/11/08/maltese-temperament-and-care/).

There are many ways a maltese can be considered "not innocent".

 

[FacetiousPersona]

Innocent:
a. Not experienced or worldly; naive.
b. Betraying or suggesting no deception or guile; artless.

A maltese can be very wordly in its own perception of its world. It can also have much experience in comparrison to other animals.
a. is based on comparrison and, by comparrison, the malese can easily be considered "not innocent".
As for b., the maltese's very appearance is a deception to its temperment:
The breed has a reputation for being good-natured, but may be intolerant of small children or other dogs. They can be protective of their owner and will bark or may bite if animals or people infringe on their territory or are perceived as a threat. (site: http://my-pet-medicine.com/2006/11/08/maltese-temperament-and-care/).

There are many ways a maltese can be considered "not innocent".

I see. It is interesting that you had to be very literal. Your action of correcting an evidently satirical comment (transforming it into a literal one from how it was meant to be expressed) demonstrates difficulty to accept comments in other forms besides literal one? You cannot tolerate a comment not conforming to your own style of perceiving/thinking? You need to be flexible with your perceptions and not interpret mine according to your own sequences of thinking. Not everyone will have identical thinking to you. Understand others' and you may discover new techniques to analyze data. You need to adjust your thinking to be appropriate for some comments.

Perhaps you had another motive for correcting me, despite the fact that you should not have originally. Manipulating the circumstances for an opportunity to increase the positivity of people's thoughts on you? You want your ego to be patted for trying to correct someone? You cannot correct this type of comment, for the intent of it was done as it was planned.

 

[Weliddryn]

I see. It is interesting that you had to be very literal. Your action of correcting an evidently satirical comment (transforming it into a literal one from how it was meant to be expressed) demonstrates difficulty to accept comments in other forms besides literal one? You cannot tolerate a comment not conforming to your own style of perceiving/thinking? You need to be flexible with your perceptions and not interpret mine according to your own sequences of thinking. Not everyone will have identical thinking to you. Understand others' and you may discover new techniques to analyze data. You need to adjust your thinking to be appropriate for some comments.

Perhaps you had another motive for correcting me, despite the fact that you should not have originally. Manipulating the circumstances for an opportunity to increase the positivity of people's thoughts on you? You want your ego to be patted for trying to correct someone? You cannot correct this type of comment, for the intent of it was done as it was planned.

lol