What do you think of young people?

[Nofriends]

Personally, I find most young people to be loathsome.
In my eyes, brutes such as these are only worthy of a naturally flowing, tacitly implied form of contempt.

For reference, we are defining young people as 25 or under.

 

[Sinny91]

Quasi like.

 

[Turnevies]

Depends, as I'm still below 25 myself I consider 16 year olds or so as young people. In general, they are okay and I certainly don't want to be jealous for other people having fun. The only caveat is that I don't like it if they are being arrogant and think they got life figured out, while in fact only care about popularity games. But then again, idiots are of all ages. By INTP'ness, I felt like being 50 or so from an intellectual pov, and had to force myself to behave like a normal kid in puberty in order to get make my brain developing some necessary wires for growing to an allround maturity later on. By some standards, I behave very responsible, but others may call me immature as I started partying, getting drunk and stuff later than others and haven't gotten tired of these things so far. I would not be offended if other people don't like me for being or behaving younger, I can look very irresponsible at times but all of it is well-calculated in fact.

Long story short, everyone has been young and in my experience the major reason for not liking younger people is seeing them as a treat. But respect for elderly people is a matter of basic decency.

 

[smithcommajohn]

Some young people are awesome and some are the worst... can't answer this truthfully.

 

[Architect]

Since I have a 'young person' son I'm hooked into that generation. They're pretty awesome, more edge than you older Millennials and a heck of a lot more funny. I play GTA V with my HS Freshman and his buddies - oh my god these kids are great. One of them is hilarious - constantly taking everybody down with his wit, and another plays the caring mom to the group. Brilliant.

There are shits in his class too, but at that they're way better than the shits in my day.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Since I have a 'young person' son I'm hooked into that generation. They're pretty awesome, more edge than you older Millennials and a heck of a lot more funny..

Oh, you like your son more than some internet semi-strangers? I find that very analytical and knowledgeable. Please share more wisdom.

 

[Kuu]

Blanket ageism in a personality types website

At least you could have included an explanation to your enormous generalization.

 

[Not Anyone To Care For]

As a young person myself I dislike a majority of my generation (like most INTPs do) but, I do enjoy a few other people's company. So I feel "eh" about young people it just depends..

 

[Architect]

Oh, you like your son more than some internet semi-strangers?

I meant 'you' in the generational sense, not you (this group) specifically. I find millennials I know and work with to be really nice but rather boring. It seems to be somewhat reflected in online personas too though. The under 20 crop (raised by Xers not Boomers) has more edge from what I see.

Which is an interesting point, if true why are the millienals like this? My take is because their Boomer parents were so over the top. Most generations react against the one they were raised as, so in yin-yang fashion it makes sense that the millennials would be like this. Us Xers are more middle of the road in my estimation, and our kids seem to be somewhere there too.

One thing I find interesting about millienals is that they universally seem to complain about not being hard workers. I'm not sure I believe that though, I think they're just comparing themselves against their nutty parents.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

I hate my generation. The vast majority of people my age can eat a dick and die suck.

Also what's the age cutoff for people being millennials? I was under the impression that people currently in high school were still considered millennials but Archie the Wise and Powerful is making it sound like they're a new generation so I'm all confused.

 

[Jennywocky]

Everyone was once a "young person." Each generation might struggle in a few areas, but people are people. I think the similarities are stronger than the differences.

Young people regardless tend to be either cynical or enthusiastic. Your brain is ahead of your life experience, so you can be highly smart without having much sense of how the world actually works overall. Idealism can trump realism.

You're facing a lot of ambiguity in terms of career and relationships -- i.e., the future is open before you.

Not sure else what to say. It's just a life stage, and other life stages have their own pro's and con's.

My kids are all still under 25. I think they're pretty awesome. If they had been my peers when I was growing up, I would have been happy to consider them friends... and that's from a time in my life where I felt like I had few friends. They also have pretty cool friends themselves, although none of them are "Popular Kids." I find them more open than folks in some other generations -- not really shocked by much -- although I guess it depends on who you hang out with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SxjBWJPf78

 

[redbaron]

Imagine if there were good and bad people in all age brackets.

Shocking, I know.

In all cereality though, I find the worst age group to hang around with are in the 17-23 age bracket. Generally speaking they're too old for their antics to be funny but too young and impressionae to step outside of prescribed social narratives.

@Architect just wait 6 years and the kid taking everyone down isn't cute anymore :^)

 

[TheManBeyond]

young people r cool, dats all

 

[Pyropyro]

I like the younger millennials. Quite sensible and hard-working while having room for fun at the same time. Both young men and women aren't bad looking too so that's a bonus.

These guys work well even beyond 1 AM while lazy me can't even go past midnight. To be fair they have CRISPR now. Heck, I'll volunteer to work until 1 AM if I got that kind of toy.

 

[Fukyo]

Packs of rowdy high schoolers are pretty annoying.

 

[Architect]

Also what's the age cutoff for people being millennials? I was under the impression that people currently in high school were still considered millennials but Archie the Wise and Powerful is making it sound like they're a new generation so I'm all confused.

Yeah ignore me, I believe kids being born are still considered millennials. I think the naming is screwed up personally, I think the post-2000 generation will be named something else eventually.

 

[Pyropyro]

Yeah ignore me, I believe kids being born are still considered millennials. I think the naming is screwed up personally, I think the post-2000 generation will be named something else eventually.

Generation Z

 

[QuickTwist]

Q: What do I think of young people?

A: I don't

 

[Architect]

That's right, thanks.

Stupid name, as bad as 'X'.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I hate my generation. The vast majority of people my age can eat a dick and die suck.

Doesn't that imply that you hate yourself? Or is it that you actually believe you're any different from them?

Personally, I find most young people to be loathsome.

I'd be surprised if you didn't find most people to be worthy of contempt.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Generally speaking, they seem to have a very short attention span and an aversion to nature. Although, considering I still count as one according to op, I must say that we're all amazing super geniuses with nice physiques and impeccable judgement. The old fogeys are just jealous and miffed that we don't visit them in their weird-smelling retirement homes.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Doesn't that imply that you hate yourself? Or is it that you actually believe you're any different from them?

Yes!

 

[nanook]

sexy bodies but that arrogant 'i know it all cuz society told me so and i earned the knowledge through endless hours of homework so it must be the truth' sheep mentality ... unattractive. i perceive many young people as the "hitler jugend" (hitler youth) of today, their values are modern zeitgeist fashion (atheist, materialist, pluralist) but the way they push these values is largely ethno-centric, sexist, etc. i am afraid of the violent nature of their confidence.

i was never down with young people, not even when i was young, because my parents were from a different generation (ww2) than their parents (hippies + juppies) and were discouraging what ken wilber calls boomeritis which kinda means what it sounds like: big ego, big ambitions, no self doubts, no sincere responsibility for the state of the world. i don't side with my parents war-traumatized anti individualistic conservatism, but i am just hopelessly in between the chairs (or rather walking up the walls of the tribune) and don't fully resonate with anyone at all.

not saying older people are any better btw. can't be bothered to compare ....

i vote indifference :/

 

[Ex-User (13503)]

"Young" roughly translates to "probably not as fucked up, damaged, hopeless, or wasted as everyone else yet" to me.

 

[QuickTwist]

sexy bodies but that arrogant 'i know it all cuz society told me so and i earned the knowledge through endless hours of homework so it must be the truth' sheep mentality ... unattractive. i perceive many young people as the "hitler jugend" (hitler youth) of today, their values are modern zeitgeist fashion (atheist, materialist, pluralist) but the way they push these values is largely ethno-centric, sexist, etc. i am afraid of the violent nature of their confidence.

i was never down with young people, not even when i was young, because my parents were from a different generation (ww2) than their parents (hippies + juppies) and were discouraging what ken wilber calls boomeritis which kinda means what it sounds like: big ego, big ambitions, no self doubts, no sincere responsibility for the state of the world. i don't side with my parents war-traumatized anti individualistic conservatism, but i am just hopelessly in between the chairs (or rather walking up the walls of the tribune) and don't fully resonate with anyone at all.

not saying older people are any better btw. can't be bothered to compare ....

i vote indifference :/

You are incredibly bright.

Tell me where I am wrong.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Yes!

Thanks ; ). Now I know.

 

[Praetorian]

I used to view them with disdain. Later on, I realized it was a dislike based on a false sense of superiority and a lack of experience, so I discarded that hate. Over the last few years, I've just tried to understand them; and I have come to realize that just like humans in general, young people come with many different dispositions, traits, histories, and that it's best just to deal with the individual in front of me.

Indifference would be my best guess.

 

[Black Rose]

What do you think of young people?

I'm not over 30 yet.

I don't do activities.

I don't go to party's.

I'm very subdued.

I take meds for Existentialism.

Not a girl (avatar is deceptive)

I am waiting for A.I. and VR - the (Rawr)ing 2020's and cyberpunk nootropics

I am waiting for A.I. and VR - the (Rawr)ing 2020's and cyberpunk nootropics

https://youtu.be/qs7yElXtNN0

 

[Nofriends]

sexy bodies but that arrogant 'i know it all cuz society told me so and i earned the knowledge through endless hours of homework so it must be the truth' sheep mentality ... unattractive. i perceive many young people as the "hitler jugend" (hitler youth) of today, their values are modern zeitgeist fashion (atheist, materialist, pluralist) but the way they push these values is largely ethno-centric, sexist, etc. i am afraid of the violent nature of their confidence.

i was never down with young people, not even when i was young, because my parents were from a different generation (ww2) than their parents (hippies + juppies) and were discouraging what ken wilber calls boomeritis which kinda means what it sounds like: big ego, big ambitions, no self doubts, no sincere responsibility for the state of the world. i don't side with my parents war-traumatized anti individualistic conservatism, but i am just hopelessly in between the chairs (or rather walking up the walls of the tribune) and don't fully resonate with anyone at all.

not saying older people are any better btw. can't be bothered to compare ....

i vote indifference :/

in other words you are a human, not a faux human like many are, not a normal human either, but rather one at the brink of transcendence!

 

[nanook]

You are incredibly bright.

Tell me where I am wrong.

i tend to ignore these kinds of dialogues but since you are asking for a response in the other thread (but nothing comes to mind, sorry) i want to respond here:

you said things about me (also in the witchhunt thread, if i remember correctly), as if you were trying to validate a self image that i don't really have and i can't even tell if you really mean it, if you are practicing empathy and overdo it slightly or if it was a sort of irony or a game of sorts, as in: "let's see if he is deluded enough to think it possible that i am serious about perceiving him as smart". i don't see myself like that.

i think i have discovered two or three important insights about life. i am also incredibly fucking old. something like 39 years. i don't 'make' these discoveries 'about myself'. these insights sort of grow on trees and the introverted mind just has to pluck them. in fact they might fall on your head if you don't run away.

if i could accomplish something in life, i might take that personally and might be proud about it. but what i "know" is just a part of the world i live in.

in other words you are a human, not a faux human like many are, not a normal human either, but rather one at the brink of transcendence!

is that how you think about me? about yourself? did i imply that about me? i don't know what i am. at the brink of alzheimers, probably. i struggle to have lucid dreams. i have lots of karmic attachment. i don't see myself as being all too close to any ultimate transcendence. i think i have nothing invested in society, no relationships either, so i have no point in being attached to collective myths. i really understand that people who have to earn money by selling their soul end up actually loosing it, so to say, as much as they may hope to hold on to it, secretly. it's all mechanical. by soul i just mean a certain independence.

i'm sorry for writing about me. as i said usually i am too schizoid to respond to dialogues (i have a feeling sinny really hates me by now) but whatever ....

 

[QuickTwist]

i tend to ignore these kinds of dialogues but since you are asking for a response in the other thread (but nothing comes to mind, sorry) i want to respond here:

you said things about me (also in the witchhunt thread, if i remember correctly), as if you were trying to validate a self image that i don't really have and i can't even tell if you really mean it, if you are practicing empathy and overdo it slightly or if it was a sort of irony or a game of sorts, as in: "let's see if he is deluded enough to think it possible that i am serious about perceiving him as smart". i don't see myself like that.

i think i have discovered two or three important insights about life. i am also incredibly fucking old. something like 39 years. i don't 'make' these discoveries 'about myself'. these insights sort of grow on trees and the introverted mind just has to pluck them. in fact they might fall on your head if you don't run away.

if i could accomplish something in life, i might take that personally and might be proud about it. but what i "know" is just a part of the world i live in.

Well, its true, I don't know you very well, or really well at all, but I can see you have got something, a spark of something. I come across as convoluted to many people, but what I say is based off something I have noticed without being able to describe it well. IDK or remember what I said about you in the witch hunt thread, so I apologize for that, but I was most likely being sincere if it seemed like I was complimenting you. I tend to try and draw from experts and though you may not think of yourself as one, there is a certain thing about you that tells me you have found something interesting based off what you talk about and the way you articulate it. Hard to describe for me.

Anyways, it looks like you haven't paid much attention to me and my posts, which is fine.

Hopefully some day I will see these insights you have had in a more tangible way.

 

[Black Rose]

@QuickTwist

You are really into honor because you admire skills and the effort to attain such skills. I remember you play card games because it challenges you and your eyes look very focused in your video. I think you are ISTP and Sinny is ESTP. Don't read to much into that because I am still asking nanook to review my post in the other thread, I am still trying to understand MBTI / Jung. Michael Pierce has a video on ISTP's.

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/55LmENGRd58

What nanook has is understanding from age and experience but the breath of what he knows I would single out as contributing to his depth. Focus as with your avatar from samurai champloo is depth because one thing is the center, one thing requires the whole being. Nanook along with me are more about many things going on the same time along with uncertainty and possibility. We got to where we are not by a single focus of what we wanted to accomplish, we did not hone a single skill over years and years. What happened was that we experienced a collection of ideas that just crystallized into understanding everything that we know.

So well it may seem we have "skills" because we produce such great insight into the topics we discuss it really is just collecting all the ideas we can along with, in real life, been there done that (been there being prominent). You are looking to him to guide you well he really does not know many things making him uncertain to help you out. He is not a master or a guru but if he were he would be a good one because he has made mistakes like anyone and really contemplated on if he really knows what he knows. What you are looking for QuickTwist are people to help you understand yourself.

You want to improve your skills well nanook just wants to make sure he is not wrong about everything. Wisdom comes from doubt because certainty can be mistaken. I myself wonder, is something important enough for me to fight for or am I just mistaken and vanilia realy is not the best flavor ice cream. Am what I am fighting for a just cause or my own folly of clinging to arbitrary constructs like Pepsi is better than coke a cola. Me and nanook look for those genuine things that matter in life and not solely ruled by our passions. If we find the right cause because it genuinely is the right cause then yes that is who we are.

You like to do things well QuickTwist and you find such things honorable but the point of being a master is not to teach skills for the sake skills but for something higher, the way of heaven in the book "Art of War". I read that book in 2009. We should not honor just skills because what we fight for may not be worth fighting for and maybe we should not be fighting at all. But those thinks worth fighting for should be worth developing skill to acomplish. Many students treat honor as if honor were blind much like many chritians have blind faith. Passion in itself has no honor, it is neutral and animalistic. Honor and faith need reason to guid them to what realy matters in life. The path of heaven.

 

[EditorOne]

I like young people. I used to be one. Besides, it's not like they choose to be young or anything, so it's not really fair to hold it against them.

 

[QuickTwist]

@QuickTwist

You are really into honor because you admire skills and the effort to attain such skills. I remember you play card games because it challenges you and your eyes look very focused in your video. I think you are ISTP and Sinny is ESTP. Don't read to much into that because I am still asking nanook to review my post in the other thread, I am still trying to understand MBTI / Jung. Michael Pierce has a video on ISTP's.

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/55LmENGRd58

What nanook has is understanding from age and experience but the breath of what he knows I would single out as contributing to his depth. Focus as with your avatar from samurai champloo is depth because one thing is the center, one thing requires the whole being. Nanook along with me are more about many things going on the same time along with uncertainty and possibility. We got to where we are not by a single focus of what we wanted to accomplish, we did not hone a single skill over years and years. What happened was that we experienced a collection of ideas that just crystallized into understanding everything that we know.

So well it may seem we have "skills" because we produce such great insight into the topics we discuss it really is just collecting all the ideas we can along with, in real life, been there done that (been there being prominent). You are looking to him to guide you well he really does not know many things making him uncertain to help you out. He is not a master or a guru but if he were he would be a good one because he has made mistakes like anyone and really contemplated on if he really knows what he knows. What you are looking for QuickTwist are people to help you understand yourself.

You want to improve your skills well nanook just wants to make sure he is not wrong about everything. Wisdom comes from doubt because certainty can be mistaken. I myself wonder, is something important enough for me to fight for or am I just mistaken and vanilia realy is not the best flavor ice cream. Am what I am fighting for a just cause or my own folly of clinging to arbitrary constructs like Pepsi is better than coke a cola. Me and nanook look for those genuine things that matter in life and not solely ruled by our passions. If we find the right cause because it genuinely is the right cause then yes that is who we are.

You like to do things well QuickTwist and you find such things honorable but the point of being a master is not to teach skills for the sake skills but for something higher, the way of heaven in the book "Art of War". I read that book in 2009. We should not honor just skills because what we fight for may not be worth fighting for and maybe we should not be fighting at all. But those thinks worth fighting for should be worth developing skill to acomplish. Many students treat honor as if honor were blind much like many chritians have blind faith. Passion in itself has no honor, it is neutral and animalistic. Honor and faith need reason to guid them to what realy matters in life. The path of heaven.

Thank you for that, really. That does clear some things up for me. You may just be right that I am ISTP, it seems to make sense and I did watch the whole video. I am still a little unsure, but damn that does sound like me.

 

[nanook]

what i have learned is that a person does not exist and can not find themselves, but that we are evolution, evolution is creative trial and error with some good intuition but ultimately no reliable plan of where it is heading, especially because life is a coming together of circumstance/opportunity and individual subject/nature/soul, so even if that soul/subject could have or has a good abstract clue of it's own potential, there is no one in the universe who knows how that potential can be manifested via circumstance, until it has happened (and this is how i am atheist after all). so if i can give advice to anyone, it's not: "this is who i know you to be and this is what you should accomplish to be happy with yourself", but it is this: "you would better meet life with less anxiety than i do, or else you won't manage to manifest any of your potential, and while this may not destroy either subject, soul or spirit, it will render it into an unhappy state of isolation". so i think i can sometimes help people by analysing how their creativity/evolution is blocked out of authentic manifestation. i could probably explain how social anxiety shows up for all the enneagram types for instance. so i know more than the folks in my SA SHG understand about themselves. and they are not eager to find out. but i need to know people, to give custom tailored advice and i don't know you guys like that. i know some general things about how life works and how it breaks. if you dare to, you ought to ask for help a lot, but not necessarily for advice, rather for real opportunities. you ought to realize that you are one with the world, so you depend on it. i feel way too ashamed of myself, too unworthy to ask for opportunity and this is why i don't have any life at all. we can not invent ourselves in an imaginary simulator. in isolation, we are just hallucinating dreams and intelligence does also evolve in this process, but happiness doesn't. you can only invent a fulfilling life by meeting with actual circumstances. but i also believe that sometimes a seed would better sleep and dream in the earth than to meet the circumstances of a winter or a forest fire, so i can't judge myself for not having grown into the world. there is a reason for all the shame i feel about myself, after all. people are literally flaming me. but the failure to grow into circumstances is what has been breaking me and i believe AK as well. but speaking to quicktwist, who suggests he has it in him ask girls out: you probably already know how to live, so perhaps i could copy something from you instead.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

I take meds for Existentialism.

Holy shit I just cracked the fuck up!!! xD

 

[QuickTwist]

what i have learned is that a person does not exist and can not find themselves, but that we are evolution, evolution is creative trial and error with some good intuition but ultimately no reliable plan of where it is heading, especially because life is a coming together of circumstance/opportunity and individual subject/nature/soul, so even if that soul/subject could have or has a good abstract clue of it's own potential, there is no one in the universe who knows how that potential can be manifested via circumstance, until it has happened (and this is how i am atheist after all). so if i can give advice to anyone, it's not: "this is who i know you to be and this is what you should accomplish to be happy with yourself", but it is this: "you would better meet life with less anxiety than i do, or else you won't manage to manifest any of your potential, and while this may not destroy either subject, soul or spirit, it will render it into an unhappy state of isolation". so i think i can sometimes help people by analysing how their creativity/evolution is blocked out of authentic manifestation. i could probably explain how social anxiety shows up for all the enneagram types for instance. so i know more than the folks in my SA SHG understand about themselves. and they are not eager to find out. but i need to know people, to give custom tailored advice and i don't know you guys like that. i know some general things about how life works and how it breaks. if you dare to, you ought to ask for help a lot, but not necessarily for advice, rather for real opportunities. you ought to realize that you are one with the world, so you depend on it. i feel way too ashamed of myself, too unworthy to ask for opportunity and this is why i don't have any life at all. we can not invent ourselves in an imaginary simulator. in isolation, we are just hallucinating dreams and intelligence does also evolve in this process, but happiness doesn't. you can only invent a fulfilling life by meeting with actual circumstances. but i also believe that sometimes a seed would better sleep and dream in the earth than to meet the circumstances of a winter or a forest fire, so i can't judge myself for not having grown into the world. there is a reason for all the shame i feel about myself, after all. people are literally flaming me. but the failure to grow into circumstances is what has been breaking me and i believe AK as well. but speaking to quicktwist, who suggests he has it in him ask girls out: you probably already know how to live, so perhaps i could copy something from you instead.

LOL, now you're asking me for advice. Strange turn of events. I think your ashamedness is misplaced. You have to realize what you have learned and give yourself credit for making progress in life. Much like Miyamoto Musashi teaches, experience is the best teacher. You say you are old. I would think of that as a good thing. It means you have experienced things (however trivial you might think they are). But Miyamoto also teaches to experience all things and that you should not settle for a single way. As far as girls go, I can't tell you anything that shia Labeouf wouldn't say, "Just do it" as the nike commercial would have it. Don't worry about failure, worry about having the courage to simply say something, anything, it doesn't matter. Talking to girls is just like anything else, it takes practice. You're not going to be a guy who has 5 one night stands as soon as you start trying, Just work up to it. Just start by making conversation. "Hi" "How are you doing today?" You will learn eventually what works and what doesn't, just like anything. Be detached and observe. Note your observations and draw a very simply conclusion. That's about it.

 

[Sinny91]

@QuickTwist

I think you are ISTP and Sinny is ESTP. .

ESTP

content, emotionally stable, outgoing, social, group oriented, finisher, does not like to be alone, open, decisive, likes external praise, likes to be center of attention, frequently joking, adjusts easily, likes crowds, self confident, neutral moods, good at getting people to have fun, disorganized, messy, talented at presentation, not easily annoyed, does not like to be alone, enjoys crude jokes, likes to lead, likes sports, more likely to come off as masculine, risk taker, tends to dominate conversations, fearless, can handle criticism, hard to discourage

Lol, that's like the me I'd like to be.

The Doer

As an ESTP, your primary mode of living is focused externally, where you take things in via your five senses in a literal, concrete fashion. Your secondary mode is internal, where you deal with things rationally and logically.

ESTPs are outgoing, straight-shooting types. Enthusiastic and excitable, ESTPs are "doers" who live in the world of action. Blunt, straight-forward risk-takers, they are willing to plunge right into things and get their hands dirty. They live in the here-and-now, and place little importance on introspection or theory. The look at the facts of a situation, quickly decide what should be done, execute the action, and move on to the next thing.

ESTPs have an uncanny ability to perceive people's attitudes and motivations. They pick up on little cues which go completely unnoticed by most other types, such as facial expressions and stance. They're typically a couple of steps ahead of the person they're interacting with. ESTPs use this ability to get what they want out of a situation. Rules and laws are seen as guidelines for behavior, rather than mandates. If the ESTP has decided that something needs to be done, then their "do it and get on with it" attitude takes precendence over the rules. However, the ESTP tends to have their own strong belief in what's right and what's wrong, and will doggedly stick to their principles. The Rules of the Establishment may hold little value to the ESTP, but their own integrity mandates that they will not under any circumstances do something which they feel to be wrong.

ESTPs have a strong flair for drama and style. They're fast-moving, fast-talking people who have an appreciation for the finer things in life. They may be gamblers or spendthrifts. They're usually very good at story telling and improvising. They typically makes things up as they go along, rather than following a plan. They love to have fun, and are fun people to be around. They can sometimes be hurtful to others without being aware of it, as they generally do not know and may not care about the effect their words have on others. It's not that they don't care about people, it's that their decision-making process does not involve taking people's feelings into account. They make decisions based on facts and logic.

ESTP's least developed area is their intuitive side. They are impatient with theory, and see little use for it in their quest to "get things done". An ESTP will occasionally have strong intuitions which are often way off-base, but sometimes very lucid and positive. The ESTP does not trust their instincts, and is suspicious of other people's intuition as well.

...

http://www.personalitypage.com/html/ESTP.html

Buttt, they lost me right there ^^