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What do we call someone who can't be convinced by factual evidence?

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Is there a specific term for people who can't (or won't) be convinced by factual evidence?

Would delusional be an accurate term?

An acquaintance of mine thinks the moon landing was a hoax and he refuses to acknowledge any factual evidence to the contrary.

My neighbour is a YEC and refuses to acknowledge any factual evidence that disagrees with her belief regarding the age of the Earth.

Is there a catch-all term for these people?
 

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irrational.
 

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So, would I be considered abnormal if I change my beliefs based on new factual evidence provided to me?
 

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So, would I be considered abnormal if I change my beliefs based on new factual evidence provided to me?

Factual is relative, though. You don't understand that. Facts are just respected opinions. Or something like that.

Fact.
 

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Facts are facts and opinions are opinions. Sometimes they overlap as in when a person's opinions are the same as facts.

It's a fact (not an opinion) that the Earth and Moon orbit around a common centre of gravity.

It used to be a respected opinion that the Earth was the centre of the universe but now we know that view is wrong. It wasn't factual.

A fact is something true whilst an opinion can be true or false.

Why is it so hard to for some people to acknowledge that other people are sometimes just plain wrong?
 

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Why is it so hard to for some people to acknowledge that other people are sometimes just plain wrong?

Because they might not be wrong. They probably are wrong. But that doesn't make you right, only less wrong than them.


To answer your original question:
Different
 

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They're 'thinking' using their emotional mind instead of their rational mind.
I get like that when I'm really anxious or angry. I can have proof of some fact right in front of me but I'll some how 'reason' that it isn't a fact.
But that's just a short term thing for me. I'm not sure if it's the same thing for someone who won't be convinced by facts in the long term.
 

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@Happy

Facts are facts and opinions are opinions. Sometimes they overlap as in when a person's opinions are the same as facts.

It's a fact (not an opinion) that the Earth and Moon orbit around a common centre of gravity.

It used to be a respected opinion that the Earth was the centre of the universe but now we know that view is wrong. It wasn't factual.

A fact is something true whilst an opinion can be true or false.

Why is it so hard to for some people to acknowledge that other people are sometimes just plain wrong?

Because they might not be wrong. They probably are wrong. But that doesn't make you right, only less wrong than them.

From a philosophical POV, this makes sense.
From a practical daily POV? It's a little different.

For example, Chuck on "Better Call Saul" has a phobia about electronics that causes a lot of suffering in his life and affects others in his life, and philosophically we might be able to say "he's probably wrong, but might not be; and all we can say is we're less wrong," but in the practical sense it seems that his concerns are existing in his mind and are disruptive to his life. there are potential long-term concerns about some technology to worry about -- there's no way to verify them yet through data -- but no one would bet money on his being right to the degree he is taking it.

So there's a way to view things operatively that has less problems with deciding certain POVs are not realistic.

We could talk about heliocentricism, but it was validated through measurement and experiment, whereas what it was replacing in some cultures was purely of religious belief trying to dictate as some kind of measurable practical reality.

Faithful.

Yeah, it kind of comes down to "faith" on some level in what belief is being held, and viewing contradictions as something that will eventually be explainable within their belief framework. It's understandable, not necessarily reasonable.
 

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I tend to go with "sophist" when such people try to convince others of their blatantly wrong beliefs or "subjectivist" when they found their philosophy on purely subjective reasoning.

"Idiot" works too, although resorting to petty name calling seems a disadvantageous tactic.

I think the best way to handle such people is to ignore them and focus on convincing those who will listen to reason and encourage them to ignore the sophists/subjectivists too, social ostracism bypasses abstract thought and thus influences the sophists/subjectivists on an instinctual level.

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I find that offensive.
 

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Predestined.
 

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Because they might not be wrong. They probably are wrong. But that doesn't make you right, only less wrong than them.

Philosophical wank.
 

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I tend to go with "sophist" when such people try to convince others of their blatantly wrong beliefs or "subjectivist" when they found their philosophy on purely subjective reasoning.

"Idiot" works too, although resorting to petty name calling seems a disadvantageous tactic.

I think the best way to handle such people is to ignore them and focus on convincing those who will listen to reason and encourage them to ignore the sophists/subjectivists too, social ostracism bypasses abstract thought and thus influences the sophists/subjectivists on an instinctual level.

Good post. I agree that trying to force people to change their view often backfires and causes them to just double down on their current beliefs.
 

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That remark was pure hyperbole, but imagine if public policy was dictated by feels rather than facts/reason/evidence?

I like being controversial, sorry for frightening you.

Thx.
 

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@Happy

Facts are facts and opinions are opinions. Sometimes they overlap as in when a person's opinions are the same as facts.

It's a fact (not an opinion) that the Earth and Moon orbit around a common centre of gravity.

It used to be a respected opinion that the Earth was the centre of the universe but now we know that view is wrong. It wasn't factual.

A fact is something true whilst an opinion can be true or false.

Why is it so hard to for some people to acknowledge that other people are sometimes just plain wrong?


I don't believe that the OP is talking about evidence that is so straight foward and obvious as this. Most things require an interpretation of several small peices of evidence and how they tie in together.
 
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