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Well..what about the others?

Melkor

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Okay..
So i think i've finally sorted out in my head what an INTP is like..

but...

I'm still quite curious to know more about the other types.
I think it would be fascinating to fully understand each of the MBTI personality types, and be able to pick them out from groups of people, but... it's rather difficult, because simply put, most websites concentrate on a lot of theory without actually saying 'well this here is what a Entj acts like'
Of course, I do enjoy wading through theory, but I understand a lot of you have a much deeper knowledge of this...so.....
I'm just asking to see if anyone knows of any decent resources for learnign more about the types...

Well?


Also, is it just me or does an Entp sound like a complete monster?

Well assuming that the only difference is that they're extroverted...
 

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The INTP forum should do a series on this. Each week we'll try to masterfully understand one type? It'll be such a fun group activity!

It seems fair to start with ENTP.
I always look at cognitive functions- Ne, Ti, Fe, Si
and compared to INTP: Ti, Ne, Si, Fe
They have all the same functions as we do, it's just a matter of the order they come in.

So whereas we tend to sit quietly and think, and seem like we're on another planet, they are actively looking and responding to the possibilities around you.

I'm sure you've had situations where you felt especially extroverted- maybe talking excitedly about possibilities in a TV show plot, or philosophy, or gossip. That kind of state of being only comes over us every now and then. ENTPs live most of their life like that!
http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTP.html
http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTP_rel.html
http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTP_per.html

I know it's pessimistic to only quote the "ENTP Explaination of Problems", but I find the "explaination of problems" part to be one of the most valuable sections in all of the personalitypage descriptions.
Explanation of Problems
Nearly all of the problematic characteristics described above can be attributed in various degrees to the common ENTP problem of being so fascinated with their Extroverted Intuitions that they fail to develop a careful thinking process sufficient to balance it. Leaps of perception, new ideas and strange but fascinating juxtapositions are wonderful for the potential freshness and possible success they might bring. But if not carefully appraised and chosen wisely they can also take us far from the right path in life, take us from our friends, spoil our relationships and even bring personal or financial disaster. Without a well developed thinking function, the ENTP is always in danger of leaping over social, financial and personal constraints for the sake of following a new vision. This might be as simple as arousing the wrath of ones partner by suddenly deciding to by an expensive gadget or change something around the house without being concerned for their input or feelings, or as complex as allowing an ill considered entrepreneurial idea lead them into financial and social disaster, simply because the one sided vision of Extroverted Intuition does not recognize or count the amount of small but important details which need to be right before such ideas can be realized.

Without a solid thinking function, the ENTP can easily discount or fail to notice the essential ethics of social and interpersonal relationship, often considering themselves “above” or untouched by such limiting values and often discounting the possibility that their actions might be or hurtful or seen as unethical by others. It is not that the one sided ENTP is deliberately hurtful, but simply ignorant of the effects which can flow from their often compulsive need for change or need to show how clever or individual they are. In the ENTP, the lack of a well developed Feeling Function means that they must learn to “understand” feeling in both themselves and others and come to terms with its affects. This understanding can only come from thinking carefully about the ways feeling affects not only themselves, but others, and the importance others place on this function. The ENTP has a feeling function more or less global in character and one which does not judge fine differences. This inability to discriminate feelings can allow the ENTP to say and do much that leaves others in the cold, so an effort to think about the feeling process can be essential. Without the understanding this brings, the ENTP can separate themselves from the ground of their life, from the constancy of their friends and family and, without even realizing it, they can easily find themselves in untenable positions where, without support, they wonder why they are suddenly alone and lost.

Another significant problem arises where the ENTP has grown within or is locked by circumstances to an environment which limits their freedom or their ability to utilize their specific abilities. This forces the ENTP to narrow down their intuitive process to the point where it retains at least some freedom to operate within their life. Under such conditions however, the intuition is free only to range over a small and limited field of vision, a field which usually consists only of the very things the ENTP is normally unconcerned about: the small details of life and its familiar objects. Without the ability to take stock and apply careful thought to the ways they might expand their horizons, the ENTP in such situations can become morose, niggardly and obsessed with the most minor or intangible details – to the point where such minutiae fill their life and each day becomes a frustrating process of eliminating again and again the little problems which ever seem to stand in the way of the “big” picture – a picture which, as those around them know only too well, will never be realized.
Unfortunately I don't have any close friends who are ENTP. I only just started typing everyone I meet, so I also haven't had much opportunity to find ENTPs. Someone with a personal anecdote about ENTP- take the stage!
 

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I have the same questions about other personality types. I just ordered a book from Amazon that may help. It is supposed to give examples of how other personalities respond to different situations. I guess I'll find out soon if it is useful. I think the book is called "Type talks". I could be wrong about the title.


By the way have you noticed how difficult it is to get books about MBTI that don't deal with career stuff? I have looked in several bookstores and have found nothing.


As for the ENTP, my husband is an ENTP so I know a little about them. From 18 years of careful study I come to the conclusion that they are absolutly crazy. It's his risk taking that flabbergasts me. The absolute willingness to take risks. He's not a monster, just absolutly fucking crazy.

The difference with ENTP's is more then just extroversion. It is complicated and I am not good at explaining it. From experience I can say that my husband does not analyze things as carefully as I do, also his creativity is not as original an mine is. He has difficulty comming up with truly original ideas, but he is great at building on the original ideas of others. If he has something to go on he can be very creative. I don't know if this is an ENTP thing or is just unique to him.

Many MBTI sites say that Benjermin Franklin was an ENTP. I am reading a biography about him and I can see why they say he might have been an ENTP. Somewhere on this site, I don't remember where, there is a thread about video examples of various types (I don't recall the exact title of the thread) anyway it has a good example of an older ENTP.
 

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C.J. looks like you and I were working on our posts at the same time, you just posted before me. I like your quote. It answered my own question about creativity. Thank you. Next time don't quote or type such a large amount of text in the dark blue. It is hard to read against the dark background. My eyes not hurt. *wine wine whine*
 

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my sisters boyfriend is ENTP. i'd say the main difference between us is that i like to think about the information that i already have for long periods of time, to build on the knowledge i already have through discussion and debate, where he gets a lot more out of the actual accumulation of information, he always needs new input, new ideas flowing in and doesn't care as much about pondering the ideas that are already there. they are much more experience oriented. whereas an INTP would rather be a detached observer, the ENTP tends to want to observe from within the fray, they want to experience it, to be part of the action, not just to sit idly by and watch it happen.
 

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My three roommates are: ENTP, ENFJ, and an ESFJ. MY ENTP roommate is the one I share most of my intellectual thoughts with and whatnot, we're very similar. I'd say the difference between us is that while we seem to think in the same way and come to the same conclusions, he is eager to verbalize them. In fact, he has to verbalize his thoughts in order to really understand them.. whereas I need time alone with my thoughts. ENTPs are amazing at soaking in information, even more so than INTPs, just I think we have a better understanding of things. Idk, that's my impression.
 

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Next time don't quote or type such a large amount of text in the dark blue. It is hard to read against the dark background. My eyes not hurt. *wine wine whine*

I fixed it.
 

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thank you Jesin. By the way I meant to say "my eyes now hurt", not "my eyes not hurt". it was a bad typo that the spell check could not fix, and I did not notice. I still like the quote CivilianJ.
 
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Could I just ask, how do you all know everybodies MBTIs?

Have you made them take it, do they just happen to know, or is it just predicting?

Because I find predicting other peoples MBTIs to be quite hard (although I am a novice on the subject)
 

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Could I just ask, how do you all know everybodies MBTIs?

Have you made them take it, do they just happen to know, or is it just predicting?

Because I find predicting other peoples MBTIs to be quite hard (although I am a novice on the subject)

Usually when I'm giving a guess of someone's type and not an actual test result, I say so.

I don't know about everybody else on this forum, and I'd like to hear their answers.
 

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I imagine most people would be annoyed by my asking them to take a psychological assessment in order for me to talk about them on the internet. Still, I can't not talk about psychology with... well anyone, so I've usually discussed it somewhat with most of my family. Except the ES's... they never seem very inclined to listen.
 

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That's another thing I like about my school. Everyone takes the MBTI (the official MBTI) freshman year, so I can just ask them what they got without asking them to take it.

Of course, a lot of people forget their results before sophomore year, but still...
 

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My guesses are ENTJ mother, ESTP brother, ISFJ father.


Edit: Wanna know my take on them? PM me.
 

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Umm, that post seems to be answering a question that was never asked.
 

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Heh. I was just providing raw data on other types and got carried away.
 
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