Weird mind state(s)

[anemian]

There's this weird mind state I occasionally get. It's along the lines of something like a buzz in the head. Basically it seems like you're thinking way faster than you should be and a have strong focus on something, even though it's about nothing.

If I'm moving around at the time it seems like I'm moving faster than I normally would be even if I can tell I'm not by looking around.

Basically it's like everything related to time gets scewed one way or another even though observation says otherwise. Maybe something like someone playing at a faster beat than the rest of a band but hitting the same notes at the same time as everyone else.

It's not scary or dangerous it's just weird and very noticeable. I can't exactly trigger it it just happens and only once or twice a week.

___

So is there an official name for the state or whatever? Anyone else notice or have something similar?

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Rare moments of Clarity

or

Follow the white rabbit

 

[LucasM]

I got that too. Though not much now. Like once in a blue moon. Everything is weird but not. Last time was a year ago though or so. So must be some sort of chemical imbalance? Or psychotic.

 

[shadowmouse]

I have a fun one on occasion. It feels kind of like a buffer reset and usually happens when I'm doing something instinctual, like dressing or walking. All of a sudden it's like my mind just totally blanks and I forget where, who, what I'm doing, and usually what I am. This sense of total detachment usually lasts about a second and then I have to re-map everything about me and where I am. The fun part comes in when I catch something I'd been missing during the re-map. It's really helpful for finding ideas for drawing and conversation.

 

[Perseus]

She entered the room and created a Buzz. What has the Queen Bee (ESFP) been up to now ? (who has she been shagging?)

But around the Pet Shop Boys, such activity does not even create a stir.

 

[Jordan~]

Wh-

what?

 

[Dissident]

Its Perseus' weird mind states we are talking about, what did you expect?

 

[Waterstiller]

I think I know what this thread is talking about, but it's kind of vague.

I have a fun one on occasion. It feels kind of like a buffer reset and usually happens when I'm doing something instinctual, like dressing or walking. All of a sudden it's like my mind just totally blanks and I forget where, who, what I'm doing, and usually what I am. This sense of total detachment usually lasts about a second and then I have to re-map everything about me and where I am. The fun part comes in when I catch something I'd been missing during the re-map. It's really helpful for finding ideas for drawing and conversation.

This reminds me of one of my favorite songs.

Suddenly everything has changed
The Flaming Lips

Putting all the vegetables away
That you bought at the grocery store today
And it goes fast
You think of the past
Suddenly everything has changed

Driving home, the sky accelerates
And the clouds all form a geometric shape
And it goes fast
You think of the past
Suddenly everything has changed

Putting all the clothes you’ve washed away
And as you’re folding up the shirts you hesitate
Then it goes fast
You think of the past
And suddenly everything has changed

(it's not expressed very well in the lyrics, but the music is phenomenal for capturing this feeling. The two songs in the link are 2 of my absolute favorites, and perhaps might be good for INTPs to hear. When you're feeling despondent, "The Gash" is great. /end thread derail)

 

[Vrecknidj]

I have a few.

Sometimes when I wake up I have a brief internal sense that's a little like hearing static, a little like feeling compressed in the head, and a little like having a snap in the neck. It all happens at once, it's very "inside" my brain, and I have a few seconds of fuzziness afterward. Then it's gone.

I also sometimes get whatever shadowmouse gets. It doesn't happen very often, but, I will sometimes have this weird glitch where I can't recall what's going on. It's happened in the middle of lecturing before. That's weird.

I kinda like the hypnagogic visions and crazy thoughts that I sometimes get. I get some really weird thoughts sometimes when I'm super, duper tired. It's as though thoughts about A and thoughts about B and thoughts about C all get mixed together and seem to me to make sense, even though they don't. (Insert absolutely anything for A, B and C, but especially things that wouldn't ever go together.)

I don't like the sensation of driving and suddenly realizing I have no idea what road I'm on. (Note: I commute more than 50 miles one way twice (or more) a week and have done so for 20+ years.) I always know where my end destination is, but sometimes I'll forget which route I'm on and just have to keep driving the direction I'm going until I see a landmark that reminds me where I am. This has happened perhaps 5 times in my life. It's scary as hell.

Dave

 

[Dutty]

I don't know if this is what you mean but

I get these sort of out of body experiences, somewhat like a daydream super-sized by Ronald McDonald. Maybe its a random past recollection w/ vivid details when I was 3, or innovative ways I can change the world for the better, which at the time always seem like great ideas, until I forget what they are seconds later.

Its like my brain is hyper-analyzing. When I'm thinking of innovations or the chain-reaction of the simplest event my brain is thinking and processing information so fast, that in the end, I can only remember the final conclusion and that usually isn't for long. Making it hard for me to explain or talk about these ideas to anyone except for my best friend, who is also INTP. And that is only when we are in a moment of total clarity, where we don't have to finish sentences.

 

[Fedayeen]

Perhaps what we are experiencing is that we are thinking faster then the brain can keep up with. (if that makes any sense)

This is not my area of expertise in the slightest, but it makes sense sort of. I would like to know if any other types experience this as well though.

 

[sagewolf]

Perhaps what we are experiencing is that we are thinking faster then the brain can keep up with. (if that makes any sense)

Makes perfect sense. Sometimes i have to talk to myself to sort out my thoughts, just to slow them down.

I have feelings like that too, sometimes, when suddenly nothing makes sense, and then everything makes sense, and then the teacher is calling my name and everything's back to normal.

Stupid teacher ruining my... whatever-that-was.

 

[Jordan~]

I sometimes get into a state of mind which convinces me that reality is an illusion. Last night, for example, I was Stumbling on the Internet, and found two pages, one about some South American ruins and another about something else, I can't remember. Later I filtered to Wikipedia, and found the same two articles, recommended by two different people. Once might not be such an amazing coincidence, but twice? Then there was a huge spider in the bathroom, in the middle of winter - not a tiny one fending for survival, a properly huge one. And all on my dad's birthday, after a few fairly epiphanic days. It just seems too much like a novel, and it's accompanied by a sort of distant, detached mindset, as though I'm observing everything that happens - like my mind is separated from my body, and just being told what's happening to it. I feel like I'm aware of everything, or a part of it - it's like I can stare at the ceiling and stop seeing it, and just lose myself to the presense of the universe. Then I go to sleep and the chemical imbalance in my brain is righted and I'm back to normal.

 

[anemian]

The compression description is a good description as well.

 

[Fedayeen]

Too add to what I was saying earlier it's like we have an adrenaline rush but in the brain, and not the rest of the body.

I sometimes get into a state of mind which convinces me that reality is an illusion. Last night, for example, I was Stumbling on the Internet, and found two pages, one about some South American ruins and another about something else, I can't remember. Later I filtered to Wikipedia, and found the same two articles, recommended by two different people. Once might not be such an amazing coincidence, but twice? Then there was a huge spider in the bathroom, in the middle of winter - not a tiny one fending for survival, a properly huge one. And all on my dad's birthday, after a few fairly epiphanic days. It just seems too much like a novel, and it's accompanied by a sort of distant, detached mindset, as though I'm observing everything that happens - like my mind is separated from my body, and just being told what's happening to it. I feel like I'm aware of everything, or a part of it - it's like I can stare at the ceiling and stop seeing it, and just lose myself to the presense of the universe. Then I go to sleep and the chemical imbalance in my brain is righted and I'm back to normal.

I had forgotten about the sleeping taking it away part. That happens to me as well.

 

[Zezon Vice]

Well it may not be that odd, but thats ok. The point isnt to see who has the weirdest stories of feelings and such. I, on a side note, feel odd talking about myself. Even more so because i know none of you. Which i guess works both ways as you can do nothing to effect me. At any rate, i some times find myself as close to completely blank as one can be. It is a grand feeling i wish i could control and embrace at any time. There is no emotion and little thought. Its probably a time of rest, as for the rest of my day i spend constantly conflicted by emotions and battling logics of my own, especially now as i am 17 and everything is moving so fast i cant keep up. Deeply sorry if my post wasted your time.

I saw that adrenaline rushes were noted and thoughs i also get. I feel empowered and unstoppable which makes me really want to hurt someone. Is this healthy?

 

[EloquentBohemian]

Hi! Welcome to the forum. You may find many of similar thought here.
Have a look at the Introit section (see the main index) and post a bit about yourself (...only as much as you feel comfortable with).

 

[Jesin]

(...only as much as you feel comfortable with)

Only as much as you want to, anyway.

 

[Agent Intellect]

when i try to think of the nothingness of non existence, if existence had never existed, it makes my head swim.

 

[EloquentBohemian]

when i try to think of the nothingness of non existence, if existence had never existed, it makes my head swim.

Backstroke or butterfly?

I just go for coffee. Infinite coffee. In an infinite cup. Black. Infinitely black. Like the nothingness of non-existence.




(....i think another one of my brain cells just commited suicide)

 

[Agent Intellect]

Backstroke or butterfly?

I just go for coffee. Infinite coffee. In an infinite cup. Black. Infinitely black. Like the nothingness of non-existence.




(....i think another one of my brain cells just commited suicide)

infinite quantities of coffee at an infinite temperature and infinite surface area. what would be the density of such a magical cup of coffee? i think i'll stick with my cheap instant coffee (and yet, how instant is it? can the time it takes to make my magical coffee be divided into infinitely smaller segments of time?)

(my brain feels like it has bovine spongiform encephalopathy now)

 

[EloquentBohemian]

(my brain feels like it has bovine spongiform encephalopathy now)

Sorta like this?

Mine's no better...

 

[Gorgrim]

I've experienced that my brain zones out,(especially when i was young).

basically, my vision is not focused. All im doing is trying to snap back out of it. I cannot really react to anything for a couple seconds, and im trying to wipe my eyes off. if it was just my senses, I wouldn't say my brain zones out, but i cannot really do anything in those few seconds.

Dave any chance you can relate to this? maybe it wasnt clear enough. but like you say, It takes a couple seconds to find out where you really are again.

Besides this, I had a weird experience of time compressing itself from 45 minutes to a couple. Seemed only to be two situations in this span of time, It was as if I was there for 5 minutes, left, and came back just in time for the bell to ring. Stuck in my mind.

 

[Fordy]

I can't say I relate to too many of these mind states. The "hyper-analysing" one seems familiar though. Sometimes I need to lie down just to comprehend everything. They can be really frustrating if they pop up during certain times, like social events or classes.

 

[Ermine]

I sometimes get like that. However, the problem is that after those periods of clarity, everything goes mentally blurry.

 

[sagewolf]

I've experienced that my brain zones out,(especially when i was young).

basically, my vision is not focused. All im doing is trying to snap back out of it. I cannot really react to anything for a couple seconds, and im trying to wipe my eyes off. if it was just my senses, I wouldn't say my brain zones out, but i cannot really do anything in those few seconds.

Sometimes I'm thinking so hard that my eyes won't focus at all: I'll try to force them to focus on the desk or book or something but my mind's still going and I have to finish my train of thought before I can focus on the world again. Dunno if that was what you mean but I think it's what happens.

I also have periods of time where I begin thinking everything looks strange: I'll think that words are spelled wrong-- when they're not-- because they look funny or that my dog looks different when he doesn't in the least. These I just find bizarre.

 

[lemonsunite]

Sometimes I'm thinking so hard that my eyes won't focus at all: I'll try to force them to focus on the desk or book or something but my mind's still going and I have to finish my train of thought before I can focus on the world again. Dunno if that was what you mean but I think it's what happens.

I also have periods of time where I begin thinking everything looks strange: I'll think that words are spelled wrong-- when they're not-- because they look funny or that my dog looks different when he doesn't in the least. These I just find bizarre.

I get that a lot. But mostly i get these feelings of sudden clarity, not in my mind but in the world around me. Like i will be walking down the hallways in my school and i'd look up and think "wow the light is so pretty" it makes me wonder about how much we miss in life. later though, i can't remember that feeling exactly, so i drift towards think about what life means and what those moments truly represent in life.

 

[Tiger]

i thought esfj was queen bee. is he jsut queen bee's underling?

 

[Tiger]

There's this weird mind state I occasionally get. It's along the lines of something like a buzz in the head. Basically it seems like you're thinking way faster than you should be and a have strong focus on something, even though it's about nothing.

If I'm moving around at the time it seems like I'm moving faster than I normally would be even if I can tell I'm not by looking around.

Basically it's like everything related to time gets scewed one way or another even though observation says otherwise. Maybe something like someone playing at a faster beat than the rest of a band but hitting the same notes at the same time as everyone else.

It's not scary or dangerous it's just weird and very noticeable. I can't exactly trigger it it just happens and only once or twice a week.

___

So is there an official name for the state or whatever? Anyone else notice or have something similar?

sounds like ADD, lol. but seriously, if i udnerstadn what you'e talking about - its like your minds' galloping, right? - im like this 70% of the time, ive got to fight it while im driving, yes be scared . i call it zoning out or refer to it as having ym eyes turned inward. are you totally immersed in your imagination? i find thats where i prefer to do my thinking. what did cogsinant say, chasign the white rabbit? yeah its that one - at least thats what i'm talking about. not sure about you still. its liek all most of the activity in your brainn goes to one place leaving just enough behind for your body to go about its meanial tasks like a machine. my body goes on autopilot when im like this. autopilot is very clever it seems and is better at stopping me from electrocting myself or making anyother silly mistakes than i am.
tehcnically, i think the frequency of your brains waves have changed, either lower or higher i dont know. probably lower... the lack of stress and all. its a good place to be. if you like it i suggest transidnetal mediation - just focus on your breathing. when your doing it right it you will feel an incredible rejuinvating sensation upon your brain. its hard to coem out of, i was staring at a piece of grass for about 5 -10 mintues once before i could think or move.

 

[Anticitizen]

I have a fun one on occasion. It feels kind of like a buffer reset and usually happens when I'm doing something instinctual, like dressing or walking. All of a sudden it's like my mind just totally blanks and I forget where, who, what I'm doing, and usually what I am. This sense of total detachment usually lasts about a second and then I have to re-map everything about me and where I am. The fun part comes in when I catch something I'd been missing during the re-map. It's really helpful for finding ideas for drawing and conversation.

This happens to me, too.

 

[Anticitizen]

when i try to think of the nothingness of non existence, if existence had never existed, it makes my head swim.

This question has kept me up nights for nearly twenty years (I'll be 28 in a few weeks).

I think it affects the INTP so much because it does not yield to our much-valued logic. The very existence of existence is maddening; nothing should exist!