Um...Err...Human flesh, anybody?

[7even]

So I was wondering whether anybody, you know, would TASTE human flesh out of pure curiosity.

The human, of course, would have just recently died, but the meat would be fresh.
This human was not murdered, so no actual 'crime' was committed.
Safety guaranteed. No parasites will enter your system.

Just seems to me a waste of food really, you know, with the global food crisis and all. I mean, burial and incineration is all good with society, but when it comes to actually benefiting us nutritionally, everyone's suddenly against it! Where's the rationale man?!

I was thinking the flesh could be served at Subway or something you know, with some mustard, or whatever you guys like.

...I wonder which race tastes better, hmm.

 

[7even]

THIS IS BULLSHIT! ... Really puts me down these poll results. Disappointing. Oh well.
I'm not that fussed about it, but if I were given the opportunity, why not?

Though at the same time, I would say no, because for all I know I could be eating my fucking uncle, you know?

 

[nexion]

Eh, I guess I'd try it once.

But, um... you sound like a true-blooded cannibal.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

oh wow.

Spoiler

No, I don't really have any desire or curiosity to taste human flesh, must be a socio-evolutionary thing. Probably if it was a life now or death later situation however in some extreme environment.

 

[Architect]

Ban this thread.

 

[Fukyo]

THIS IS BULLSHIT! ... Really puts me down these poll results. Disappointing. Oh well.

Seriously?

 

[A22]

As a vegetarian... sure why not?

Some cannibal attackers made the news lately:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/02/2829962/nude-face-eating-cannibal-must.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/14/brazil-cannibal-empanadas_n_1426173.html
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Cannibal-cult-nabbed-in-Papua-New-Guinea-20120713

 

[nexion]

Wow, I can't believe people are reacting so strongly to this. Chill the hell out.

 

[Adamastor]

I wouldn't have a problem tasting it or eating it if needed. (whole survival thing. Sounds stupid not eating eating if that is the only mean to survive and such...)

Now, if I'd taste it out of curiosity. Hmmmmm... I dunno maybe, just maybe, if some opportunity arises which I can't think of.

And I kinda of found manly(lol) how some past "barbarian" societies dealt with defeated enemies. If you know what I mean ;P

That may be just theory though. I might be completly wrong about myself and find the whole idea disgusting if I was about to do something like that...

 

[Oedipus]

In that situation I'd taste it.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Seriously?

 

[Dapper Dan]

If I could somehow guarantee that no bad things would come from it I'd probably try some.

In reality, though, it would be too risky. If anyone ever found out, I'd be getting weird looks for the rest of my life. People are just not understanding about that sort of thing, even if you have very good reasons for doing it.

 

[Words]

Though at the same time, I would say no, because for all I know I could be eating my fucking uncle, you know?

Does it matter? If it isn't your uncle, then it could be someone else's uncle. Cannibalism is a signal of disregard for humanity. You can try to rationalize it all you want, but your value system is molded symbolically by your actions.

 

[7even]

But, um... you sound like a true-blooded cannibal.

Haha nah, just a thought. I'm normal. (Whatever normal is).

Ban this thread.

Really? ... Bit of an over-reaction. Can I not bring up cannibalism?

Seriously?

My sense of humor.

Wow, I can't believe people are reacting so strongly to this. Chill the hell out.

...I know. Surprising.

That may be just theory though. I might be completly wrong about myself and find the whole idea disgusting if I was about to do something like that...

Yeah, that's definitely possible. Could be a whole different case if this situation was real.

Does it matter? If it isn't your uncle, then it could be someone else's uncle. Cannibalism is a signal of disregard for humanity. You can try to rationalize it all you want, but your value system is molded symbolically by your actions.

I'd say it's a disregard for the dead; which I can rationalize - not a disregard for humanity. Hm and I'd say it could matter/make a difference; if it's family it's a unarguably different compared to it being a stranger.

 

[Jennywocky]

Wow, I can't believe people are reacting so strongly to this. Chill the hell out.

It sounds on par with asking people whether they'd eat shit....just crass and sensationalistic, just to be such.

But hey, whatever.

I'd at least get out the Shake n Bake.

 

[7even]

It sounds on par with asking people whether they'd eat shit....just crass and sensationalistic, just to be such.

But hey, whatever.

I'd at least get out the Shake n Bake.

Aw c'mon, I don't think it sounds like that whatsoever.
Really didn't mean to cause any offense nor create a sensational thread (though obviously cannibalism grabs peoples attention), however, I've always been genuinely curious to other peoples considerations on this topic.

What's the expression Shake n Bake mean anyway? Did you vote?

 

[Latte]

Does it matter? If it isn't your uncle, then it could be someone else's uncle. Cannibalism is a signal of disregard for humanity. You can try to rationalize it all you want, but your value system is molded symbolically by your actions.

That depends entirely of how the action is regarded, symbolically. One can just as easily regard it in a way that makes it a sort of worship or a symbol of appreciation and respect towards humanity.

One can ever regard the refusal as a sign of disrespect towards the person who died, and humans in general.

 

[Jennywocky]

What's the expression Shake n Bake mean anyway? Did you vote?

You've never had Shake n Bake?

 

[7even]

That depends entirely of how the action is regarded, symbolically. One can just as easily regard it in a way that makes it a sort of worship or a symbol of appreciation and respect towards humanity.

One can ever regard the refusal as a sign of disrespect towards the person who died, and humans in general.

This. Isn't difficult to find out that cannibalism is still practiced by some cultures even today; and not as a means of expressing their disregard for humanity, but as a cultural practice or a ritual etc. Cannibalism has been practiced throughout history.
To people who find it repulsive, or whatever, are not using rationale (Ti); but feeling (Fe), simply find the notion disgusting without even having thought about it, simply a feeling of repulsion.

 

[Jennywocky]

Please don't drag functions into this, and in such an insulting way. There is no reason to be doing that, except out of trying to manipulate someone into believing what you want them to believe so that you won't label them as "illogical." Trying to shame someone into accepting your point of view, if you'd like to be technical, is not a rational ploy in itself.

Fe is not about emotions anyway. It's about values.

Now, if feelings of repulsion occur naturally within someone regardless of where they are raised culture-wise, then it's not really Fe-based, it's an inherent emotion... which means it's natural... which means logically just feeling such a repulsion is not irrational in itself. Just like phobias and the like are "rational" in the sense they are part of biological programming meant to enable an organism's survival. See?

The question is whether or not cannibalism is repulsive universally or not. Would people eat people if they were raised in a vacuum? Interesting thought.... I've noted some of the discussion above, where definitely people seem adverse to eating people they know... just like in many cases we'd be adverse to eating pets we've loved and taken care of as part of the family, although when animals have been raised with the expectation to kill and eat them at some point, just given them a name and caring for them isn't enough to allow people to feel bad when the time comes to eat them.

 

[7even]

You've never had Shake n Bake?

Hahah gotcha, and no I have not, I live outside the American continental region. Looks really appetizing though...

 

[7even]

Please don't drag functions into this, and in such an insulting way. There is no reason to be doing that, except out of trying to manipulate someone into believing what you want them to believe so that you won't label them as "illogical." Trying to shame someone into accepting your point of view, if you'd like to be technical, is not a rational ploy in itself.

Fe is not about emotions anyway. It's about values.

Hm, you're right, that is manipulative. I take back what I've said. Maybe I can blame it on my fatigue, 7:30 AM and haven't had any sleep, become cranky.

Now, if feelings of repulsion occur naturally within someone regardless of where they are raised culture-wise, then it's not really Fe-based, it's an inherent emotion... which means it's natural... which means logically just feeling such a repulsion is not irrational in itself. Just like phobias and the like are "rational" in the sense they are part of biological programming meant to enable an organism's survival. See?

Fair enough, although I wonder if 'feelings of repulsion' of cannibalism would in fact not be inherent emotions; I mean, if a minority of humans can go through it (from past to present), I'd assume anyone could, and it is not within our archetypes. I'd say people's judgement on cannibalism derives entirely from their environment, cultures and traditions that they've grown up with, and nothing to do with biological programming.

 

[7even]

"Because we fear the concept of cannibalism, it becomes an easy tool for exploiting other cultures. When Columbus described the Carib indians as "sub-human eaters of men," he effectively placed the culture firmly below Europeans [source: Anguilla Guide]. Labeling a culture cannibalistic animalizes it, and, in the context of colonization, justifies murder and land-grabbing."

Thought that paragraph was quite interesting.

Reference: http://history.howstuffworks.com/historians/cannibalism7.htm

 

[Latte]

You've never had Shake n Bake?

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFVdvXGIT34

 

[Words]

That depends entirely of how the action is regarded, symbolically. One can just as easily regard it in a way that makes it a sort of worship or a symbol of appreciation and respect towards humanity.

One can even regard the refusal as a sign of disrespect towards the person who died, and humans in general.

One can, but, considering our collective modern context, one, particularly 7even, does not.

 

[Kuu]

Yeah, I'd eat human.

Better than dumping it all in a stupid grave.

 

[Minuend]

Difficult to say. I think my mind would think very stongly that it was disgusting. But it would be quite an interesting experience, one too curious to let pass.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Yeah, I'd try it out of curiosity. In fact, I think it'd be interesting to know what just about every animal tasted like.

 

[nemo]

I wouldn't as I'm a vegetarian.

As a counter-argument to all those who are saying, "this is disrespectful!" - how about if people chose how to dispose of their bodies while they were alive? Kinda like choosing to be an organ donor, except you're choosing to be...meat. I don't see a huge problem with it - meat is meat, and if the people chose to be meat, and the people who are eating it are aware that it's human, it seems all-ok. Of course, in certain societies where it's a travesty for people to not be buried, this might not be culturally accepted.

Anyone else reminded of Sweeney Todd?

 

[Beholder]

...I wonder which race tastes better, hmm.

You will obviously want a youthful but mature physically fit human in apparently good health. A certain amount of fat is desirable as "marbling" to add a juicy, flavorful quality to the meat. We personally prefer firm caucasian females in their early twenties. These are "ripe". But tastes vary, and it is a very large herd.

Butchering the Human Carcass for Human Consumption by Bob Arson - http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/e-sermons/butcher.html

If anyone's interested in a step by step guide on how to kill and prepare "The Hairless Goat/The Long Pig", or just a really, really entertaining website (not for the faint of heart).

 

[7even]

One can, but, considering our collective modern context, one, particularly 7even, does not.

Have never been a fan of modernity/Western civilization anyway.

Butchering the Human Carcass for Human Consumption by Bob Arson - http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/e-sermons/butcher.html

If anyone's interested in a step by step guide on how to kill and prepare "The Hairless Goat/The Long Pig", or just a really, really entertaining website (not for the faint of heart).

Ha, wow. Never expected a thorough answer to my question on race. Going to read this article soon; pretty crazy.

 

[Sigma Octantis]

you're onviously trolling but my repsonse would be; no.


I guess i just don't like the idea that I'm eating someone that I used to know or may have known.


its the same logic as "Just cause i eat burgers doesn't mean i want to meet the cow."

 

[Minuend]

But you didn't have to cut me up

 

[7even]

you're onviously trolling but my repsonse would be; no.


I guess i just don't like the idea that I'm eating someone that I used to know or may have known.


its the same logic as "Just cause i eat burgers doesn't mean i want to meet the cow."

Not trolling. Well, if you've met the cow you were going to eat before it was killed, what difference would that make? - Not the same logic; a relationship between a human and human is different from that of a cow and a human.
Unless I've misunderstood you, but I wouldn't mind killing a live cow in front of me, then later eating it; if I required food... I hope I've misunderstood you.

 

[Words]

I wouldn't as I'm a vegetarian.

As a counter-argument to all those who are saying, "this is disrespectful!" - how about if people chose how to dispose of their bodies while they were alive? Kinda like choosing to be an organ donor, except you're choosing to be...meat. I don't see a huge problem with it - meat is meat, and if the people chose to be meat, and the people who are eating it are aware that it's human, it seems all-ok. Of course, in certain societies where it's a travesty for people to not be buried, this might not be culturally accepted.

Anyone else reminded of Sweeney Todd?

It's not about respect. It's about objectifying people. I doubt I'd perceive people the same way I do now if I started eating their flesh.

 

[Latte]

Not trolling. Well, if you've met the cow you were going to eat before it was killed, what difference would that make? - Not the same logic; a relationship between a human and human is different from that of a cow and a human.
Unless I've misunderstood you, but I wouldn't mind killing a live cow in front of me, then later eating it; if I required food... I hope I've misunderstood you.

Incoming text contains language (wrongly) generalizing humans to have above a certain level of empathetic functioning.

The degree and way in which it is different can vary a lot, and meeting a cow that will be consumed, especially one that oneself will consume, can impact that as well.
There is the issue of that one cares more about beings one to some degree knows than statistics or random people one reads about in a newspaper, such as when an acquaintance or even someone one only met once dies, it's highly different from when one reads an obituary in a newspaper about someone one did not know anything about. If one sees a picture of the victim in the newspaper, one cares more, even if only very slightly. Be it cat or human. Empathy is a hell of a drug.

This is a sort of extreme story that illustrates how much it can change things for a person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zFwqi2metI

 

[BigApplePi]

So I was wondering whether anybody, you know, would TASTE human flesh out of pure curiosity.

Well anyone curious about tiger or gorilla?

My wife's parents had a hobby farm with three or four cows. I asked my wife if they eventually slaughtered and ate the cows. Her answer was, "No because we gave a name to each cow and fed them.

 

[7even]

Ah, watched the video; enjoyed it.
Forgot that humans can emphasize strongly with animals, for some reason.
Thanks for correcting my incorrect generalization! :P
Anywho, I am aware that hunters, specifically indigenous people, who have to hunt for their food in order to survive, have a deep level of respect for nature, and thus the animals they kill - only killing when required and indulging in greed. This has it's advantages as to not fucking up the ecosystem and to keep a sort of natural balance, something Western civilization (called the nature-killers among indigenous tribes) are indifferent about. Guess the point I'm trying to make is that killing doesn't necessarily mean a lack of empathy?

 

[BigApplePi]

How much of this issue is cultural rather than the morality of the culture we are used to? I was just reading last week about the eating of insects, caterpillars and such. Quite acceptable in some cultures and higher sources of protein too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18KrTkpWPaY

 

[7even]

How much of this issue is cultural rather than the morality of the culture we are used to?

Have always wanted to try types of insects if ever I've made a visit to cultures that savor them; though at the same time - insects disgust me. But if other people can enjoy them; I'm sure I can do the same, and get past the thought of eating a fucking... caterpillar.

Or I'd just puke.

Who knows.

Also, culture is linked strongly to morality, is it not? Though I'd say aspects of morality would derive from culture rather than vice versa specifically in the case of cannibalism. With arthropods it doesn't seem so much of an issue with morality to me. I mean, I'm sure no-one's opposed to the eating of arthropods but rather just grossed out.

Well anyone curious about tiger or gorilla?

I've tried crocodile.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Well anyone curious about tiger or gorilla

Yes and yes.

Also koala, sloth, lion, elephant, kangaroo, shark, giraffe, etc etc.

 

[ummidk]

Ban this thread.

This.

 

[Minuend]

Why? What's wrong with this thread?

 

[Puffy]

I would.

 

[nemo]

It's not about respect. It's about objectifying people. I doubt I'd perceive people the same way I do now if I started eating their flesh.

I guess that's a personal choice then. For the people who don't think that way, I think they should be allowed the choice of eating the flesh of people who had chosen to have their flesh eaten before they died. ...That sentence was a bit over-complicated.

In ancient times, the Callatians, a tribe of Indians, "customarily ate the bodies of their dead fathers" as a sign of respect. Maybe to some, eating the flesh of their dead loved ones could be taken as a sign of respect still.

 

[nemo]

its the same logic as "Just cause i eat burgers doesn't mean i want to meet the cow."

If you wouldn't kill it, why would you eat it? That's how it got into your dinner plate anyway. (Feel free to disagree.)

 

[7even]

It's nice to know that we currently have 31 potential cannibals on this forum. (I will openly admit to having voted 'hell yeah!'. Hahah.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

It's nice to know that we currently have 31 potential cannibals on this forum. (I will openly admit to having voted 'hell yeah!'. Hahah.

You cannibals'll eat my dead body over my dead body.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

http://www.humanleather.co.uk/index.html

 

[7even]

http://www.humanleather.co.uk/index.html

Wow..