Trying not to have the same "Introduction" title

[Lunatikas]

Hi everyone,
Here's an INTP in a land of no INTPs.
I'm:

• a female INTP (the exact opposite of the most popular female type, namely ESFJ)
• a psychologist
• very keen of learning new languages (specially German)
• obsessed with anything that is related to "time" (clocks, psychology of time, rhythm, music, etc.)
• obsessed with word etymologies
• a metalhead
• a classical music lover
• in love with international communications and cultural confrontations
• a bookworm (specially mystery, fantasy and psychological thriller books)
• an agnostic
• a very abstract thinker
• with social anxiety and general anxiety disorder

I'm so tired of being misunderstood and socially excluded. I don't know what's the point of saying this but: I've grown suicidal thoughts in years and they're at their strongest nowadays... I think personality types like ours aren't fit to this world and stand no chance of survival. I've had these kind of thoughts for more than 5-6 years and since I didn't believe any psychologists out there can help, I changed my field and became one myself. But as you see, it didn't help me much (actually it's gotten worse).

Anyways, I'm glad to be here. cheers!

 

[Fukyo]

Hi, Lunaticas. Welcome to the forum.

I don't think we've ever had a member from Iran. How's life over there, especially for an INTP?

 

[Lunatikas]

Hi, Lunaticas. Welcome to the forum.

I don't think we've ever had a member from Iran. How's life over there, especially for an INTP?

Hi Fukyo,
Well, people here are not as religious as everyone think they are. My friends are mostly atheists. I've found a couple of INTPs here (which are my close friends) but they're the rarest types in Iran. Iran is chiefly ExFP and people are rude to the introverted and thinker types. So you can see how hard it is for someone like me to be here. Everyone here lives a life of party... No one ever gets the idea of being passionate about any sciences other than mathematical ones. The first priority of a girl's life here is to find a bf to marry to. So as a girl, I don't know what's wrong with me or with the culture.

 

[000x0]

Welcome to the forum! I had thoughts of moving to either Iran or Niger before, I wonder how is the food when comes to meat.

...No one ever gets the idea of being passionate about any sciences other than mathematical ones....

Interesting, over here it's the opposite. Nobody wants to go into the mathematical ones, the public education system is dying to find good teachers in the whole field.

I have heard from people that work in the digital security area, that Iran has a few best softwares devs in the field.

And don't mind about the culture pressure. We all have in a way, for instance over here, it's a cultural pressure to have a car. Everyone has it, even tho they don't need it. Besides everyone from the family having it's on, it's common among males, not just car enthusiasts, between 20's to 30's to have more than one car.

further more...

Spoiler

Even the economy pushes through, making life-long - 10 years ++ - contracts to the owner to pay.
Which after becomes a ticking bomb when the owners after 3 years or so of use, and usually 30 to 40% paid, start to sell for 20 to 30% of the price.
So you see, the next buyer has a 3 years old car or more, and like 5 years or more to still be paying. This buyer never stay too much whith this car because he is the guy that usually don't buy new cars, he just keeps on changing on the almost-new ones.
After this second owner, the next buyer usually is the one that already stops paying the bills, because they abuse on the bureaucracy factor. Here there is a lot of it, and when changing the cars document is no different. So you got the recipe:
- old car with lots of bills
- it's document is not even in my name
- I'm an asshole, and i won't pay, fuck it, let the bank get when the time comes

and because of that, the banks, and other economic institutions in the area, they abuse in interests and sky high taxes, and no one cares, because well, no one gonna change right ?

Yep, that pretty much sum's up, better put in spoiler tho.

 

[Turnevies]

Welcome Lunatikas, awesome title

I didn't expect a psychologist here, I thought MBTI was not considered serious by real psychology?

I see quite some similarities, e.g. I have a strong interest for the arrow of time, especially from a physics point of view and consider myself as an ignostic. And, ofcourse the misfitting, I believe a number of people think I have some kind of high-functioning autism instead of just a rare variety in personality.

Have fun

 

[onesteptwostep]

Hi there, welcome. Are you into politics by any chance? The president from South Korea visited there and made some ties with Iran. This might be a derail but just a slight curiosity on my part.

 

[Jennywocky]

I'm so tired of being misunderstood and socially excluded. I don't know what's the point of saying this but: I've grown suicidal thoughts in years and they're at their strongest nowadays... I think personality types like ours aren't fit to this world and stand no chance of survival.

I've struggled with some nihilist tendencies for years since much of the cultural/social patterns seem arbitrary to me, yet there is expectation for conformance and many seem to be happy moving in those patterns and uncomfortable around those who do not. It's an odd thing when people feel they have a reason to live simply by being alive, but I've had to consciously work to find things to drive me and provide some kind of impetus for survival long-term.

Currently I'm going through a period of alienation with many of my previous reasons to persist removed from me (e.g., my kids just now reached adulthood, I am divorced, my support network is radically diminished at least overtly, my spiritual views changed -- much more existential/absurdist nowadays, some ambitions I had now seem unreachable to the level of competence/success I desired, etc.). So... a time for soul-searching and trying to regroup if possible. But so many of the supportive social structures don't offer what would be substantial help, they just seem to endlessly repeat the refrains that work for those who are already happy with the way things are.

It's interesting to hear about a place outside of Western culture, especially since I'm mainly only acquainted via what our media promotes. There is still an underlying expectation here that women's value is to find a mate and raise kids especially among the older and/or more traditional demographics, although there are many more opportunities nowadays for
women to explore and establish themselves independently than there were when I was growing up. The USA still seems immersed in culture wars between different ways of life and cultural expectation

welcome to the forum.

 

[Tannhauser]

Welcome to the forum. Very interesting to read about your experience of being INTP in that part of the world. I have always been curious about that.

 

[xbox]

Welcome!!! Iranian food is the best!

 

[TheScornedReflex]

Shut up, Muffin Top. Lol

 

[Cipher]

Willkommen. You seem likeable.
Do you have some psychological theories of your own?
Are you actively exploring your own mind?
What are your life goals?

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Welcome to the forum.

Iran is chiefly ExFP and people are rude to the introverted and thinker types. So you can see how hard it is for someone like me to be here.

Since you're a psychologist you should be aware that mbti is a pseudoscientific theory. Do you feel it's accurate or viable to generalise populations of groups or countries using mbti types? Even assuming mbti is a valid model what makes you come to such conclusions about Iran's population, other than the overall knowledge of the type frequency in the world?