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Think of shouting "fire" in a crowded theater. This is not the same as shouting "lights out." Apparently enough people are offended (or enraged) to make it dangerous.
Same experience, except it wasn't around PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW ME. So it WAS funny :)I'll sum up my views with a story:
Three of my buddies and I are playing spades in a McDonald's, cause that's how we roll. We are all white, and there's maybe a 50/50 split of white/black people in the restaurant.
Anyway, one of the guys on the other team reneges. Seeing my chance for a hilarious one-liner, I quite loudly and intentionally call him a reneger. They stare at me in disbelief. I stare back at them, bewildered that they didn't find it funny. We proceed to have an awkwardly heated discussion about the appropriateness of my comment, during which one of them implies that I'm lucky I wasn't assaulted.
However, that is a one way street. White people being called 'Honkey' or any other derogotory term goes unpunished.
There's no such thing as a derogatory term for whites. Honkey is nothing short of laughable. No white person is seriously offended by this.
I find it amusing how many people think such a non-issue is unfair. It makes clear what these people are focusing on, and the common sense they're ignoring just to make a case against an oppressed race.
There is no oppression anymore
could you elaborate on that? do you mean in the world or in the civilized world?
I suppose the question is about saying something offensive and how offensive do you want to get? Joking about offensive as in the utube is not the same as not being sensitive to people's sensitivity. Some people WILL be offended and others it will roll off their backs. Perhaps it's a matter of social context. Depends on who is saying it to whom and how many. One sensitive person among hundreds may argue to disregard that one person. Yet what if the person were blind or had M.S. and someone made fun of that? There are painful situations in life ... plenty. Pointing to those situations with aid and sympathy is not the same as blame, contempt, disregard, hate, cruelty, deliberate hurtfulness. How can one tell? Perhaps by censorship when one is in doubt. If there is censorship (something I'm not fond of at all), then consider the hurtfulness and do a workaround.
In the case of the word, "nigger" what does that mean historically? It's a word for contempt for a people's who have been enslaved, handed an underprivileged social status that has been going on for a long time and is only now finding modest relief. It's far from over with. There is a clear racial line. So who is using the word? It is used among "brothers" as a recognition of someone in the same boat? It is used by someone having the race of the historical oppressor? It is used in an attempt to create a new context which hopes to erase the old context? Those are what comes to mind.
The word, "cunt" is very similar. The utube comedian tried to create a new context. The audience laughed, so apparently he succeeded. The problem is the context ... a comedy show. That is not when the word is a trouble point. Just as the N-word used by a non-oppressed white person is a reminder of oppression where countering is difficult without trouble, so is the C-word when used by a male as a reminder of female oppression or discrimination.
They're not the same word.I agree with what George Carlin said about the seven dirty words. It's the thought (context suits better for this, but yeah...) that's bad, not the word. Thing about it is that I can understand the historical context which explains why it's considered to be offensive, but I get a bit confused when a black person calls another black person a nigger and it's okay. It still has the same demeaning origin, but it's okay when it's only used by the people that the word was originally meant to be used against? Makes absolutely no sense.
I'm probably not the most valuable input on this subject though. I'm still trying to understand how it's more acceptable to say the word as if you say it like you're from Boston (Nigga) than it is to say it as nigger.![]()
I agree with what George Carlin said about the seven dirty words. It's the thought (context suits better for this, but yeah...) that's bad, not the word. Thing about it is that I can understand the historical context which explains why it's considered to be offensive, but I get a bit confused when a black person calls another black person a nigger and it's okay. It still has the same demeaning origin, but it's okay when it's only used by the people that the word was originally meant to be used against? Makes absolutely no sense.
I'm probably not the most valuable input on this subject though. I'm still trying to understand how it's more acceptable to say the word as if you say it like you're from Boston (Nigga) than it is to say it as nigger.![]()
for example, girls call each other "bitch" and "slut"-- but if a guy does it, that's a no-no;