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the test results vs. the development of the cognitive functions

Adymus

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I've no doubt it possible to develop later, interpreting MBTI claims as a general distribution, - but possessed doubts surrounding the curvature of growth [INFJ => INTP] and whether it is reasonable in the time frame discussed.
To be honest, I think it's kind of irrelevant though. I once heard Bluesquid say that he discovered MBTI when he was like 17 or something. An INFJ with poorly developed Fe relating to an INTP's description is definitely something I could see happening.


And am I really the only person here who can see that he is clearly using Ni?
 

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Even if, as Adymus said, you are emulating something you want to be, that is still very helpful to you. Just become that person you want to be. If its not all green grass on the other side, then change again to whatever you feel is best for you.

@Adymus and also anyone else: I believe you can significantly increase your tolerance for other people and need shorter amounts of alone time to "recharge".
 

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Even if, as Adymus said, you are emulating something you want to be, that is still very helpful to you. Just become that person you want to be. If its not all green grass on the other side, then change again to whatever you feel is best for you.

@Adymus and also anyone else: I believe you can significantly increase your tolerance for other people and need shorter amounts of alone time to "recharge".
I agree with this, you just have to find out what can stimulates you the most, and then work that into your social encounters.

For instance, I can talk for hours when people are asking me about certain theories of mine because it allows me to go into my Ti in mid conversation and "recharge" on the spot.
 

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And am I really the only person here who can see that he is clearly using Ni?


Yes, it is likely, however:

1) Assuming he really is an INFJ, you won't get past his Ni fortress that easily once he's had his mind set. (as he seems to have). Good luck. You can discuss it -ad nauseum- throw all sorts of argumentation at him, he'll smile, nod - and walk away still remaining convinced he is right.

2) In the end, his type is his problem. If he wants to think he is a certain type and be deluded, let him.


PS. I find it comical how most MBTI threads end up with Adymus trying to convince people and bluesquid he's an INFJ.
 

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Now that was an amusing read. I feel naked.

There is more pure speculation there than I could ever try to refute. So many contradictory things. Really makes me smile to see so much thought devoted to me.

I really think many on this forum lack the social skills to accurately interpret meaning from spoken or written word. Lack the ability to put words in a proper context. To really wring the meaning out of them. I am literally chuckling thinking of all the mangled interpretations, and the assignment of functions to whats perceived.

Reading the majority of it at once, I am amazed at how inconsistent and fragile many of the assertions are, by my dear friend Adymus.

"Honestly the things I say are just so ingrained into my own personal model of understanding typology that I am really at a loss when people tell me to tie it to an authority. I am not just spitting out text book theory, the majority is out of my own experience and theorizing, even though It still coincides with MBTI and Jungian principles of function dynamics."

Perhaps you should be published? Groundbreaking discovery my dear boy.(pipe in mouth) Text book theory, my own experience and theorizing? I believe your profile stated an age of 25? fascinating development for one your age! (Pipe in mouth) "Well first off, I imagine he probably developed his Fe much earlier than his current age." Imagine? My dear boy, that word will have to be edited.

That I am 35 and had discovered MBTI at 17, and only taken the test a few times? I find it amazing that my friend thinks so little of me? (PIM, looking around in amazement) That reading of these functions, the limitations of different types. I wouldnt branch out?

And to suggest that I would hold onto this type. That I wouldn't "allow" myself the thought that Im not a INTP? Crazy. That functions, or thoughts are like muscles? No wonder so many consider this a psuedo science.

The only person with a Ni fortress, a complete disregard for others opinions, and a "feeling" outside of textbooks, is you Ady.

What I find truely amazing, is you stating that you knew from my intro that I was an INFJ. You may have missed one small component of that intro. I said I was a drunk. I am, and I was in a sense apologizing in advance for drunken posting. look at all my post times. Its 2:28 in the morning right now.

It is my intuition talking here. Im taking a leap of faith.

. I am a chef at a restaurant with a bar. I live above the bar. I have developed all my functions because I forced myself, and became immersed in a world I wasn't comfortable in. I planned this from an early age recognizing my weakness.

So what we have at odds here, is someone older who has systematically forced themselves to adapt in the real world. And, an erudite child living in a "form" of academia .i.e. not the real world.

Perhaps you could do some publishing. Your thesis could be. The Impact of alcohol on an domiant Fe and auxiliary Fe. Get back to me?
 
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To be honest, I think it's kind of irrelevant though. I once heard Bluesquid say that he discovered MBTI when he was like 17 or something. An INFJ with poorly developed Fe relating to an INTP's description is definitely something I could see happening.


And am I really the only person here who can see that he is clearly using Ni?


No. What would a laid back / passive ENTJ look like?
 
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