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Teenage Rebellion

Silent_Rebel

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I dislike most authority not just because they are authority but because they want us to follow out of blind faith. Like my user name says, I usually do not voice my rebellion. I just create elaborate plans in my head that never get carried out. What do you think on the subject?

Edit: I am hoping that I am not thinking like this just because of my age...
 

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I don't mess with authority. I might get tazed.
 

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I dislike the word rebel, simply because of the angsty way it's often used, so I would posit that I am more of an independent in that I believe in the autonomy of people as conscious, sentient beings. I dislike the idea of arbitrary or coercive rules or laws, and I dislike the idea of arbitrary entitlements. I have no illusions that some people are "better" at certain things than other people and should be recognized for these skills on the basis of merit, but not because they were born into a certain situation or something.

So, what I "rebel" against is the feudal aristocracy inherent in western society and the use of people as a means - I'm fairly in line with the Kantian view of ethics. I think there is an intrinsic value to a human simply because they are a conscious, thinking being. Where I part from Kantian ethics is that I think people, being autonomous humans, create their own essence through their actions, and therefore can devalue themselves as a person through negative or immoral behavior - although I would still believe they have a right to life.

Where my "rebelliousness" arises is in the exploitation of people, namely by authorities, and especially by people who have done nothing to garner the respect they demand a priori. Perhaps this stems from my working class upbringing and the exploitation of the working class by means of taking taxes (I sure as hell never agreed to pay them) and the upper classes utilizing them as components in a machine that can be removed and replaced on whim, and yet must market their products to them (the economic strategy of putting people out of work so they can't buy the shit you're making has always been ironically amusing to me).

I think that those in authority fear losing that authority, and so they use people by keeping them ignorant and in debt. I'm a pacifist for the most part when it comes to violence, so I think a revolution needs to happen on an intellectual level; people need to wake up, because the only authority that those in power have is the authority the people give them. No credentials, no awards, no committee of asslickers talking about someone deserving honors, and no amount of bank notes representing someones debt can give anyone authority, only the people who believe that someone has authority can do that.
 

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I dislike the word rebel, simply because of the angsty way it's often used, so I would posit that I am more of an independent in that I believe in the autonomy of people as conscious, sentient beings.
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I agree. I think the word rebel does give off a very negative atmosphere, and is almost an insult to be called it (well, depending on the individual receiving it):D But, for most people when they think of rebel they imagine this person who defies society by burning down buildings, taking violence, and protesting. I view "rebel" more as an individual making their own choices in life. I'm a teenager (I hate using that word to describe myself as of the stereotypical response received from it, probably not from this forum but in life...) and I think we are given the name rebellious as of a way to keep us in the same state of mind we previously were as a child. As a kid, we are told from day one what and how to think, having faith it is truth. Yet, as we mature we realize that others' opinions are mere guesses a lot of the time as well. We [teenagers] want to take in as much info. as possible so that we can make our own decisions on it, or outlook on life.

Many people dismiss our ideas as being "hormonal", or out of "ignorance". Yet I'm sure at least some teenagers have a better view on life than adults, as it's still at the age of taking in info as I mentioned. Adults usually (not all) have their mind made up, but teenagers see all view points and determine which is most meaningful to he/she. (most) Rebellion for me, is just a way of trying to get closer to your standpoint. Of course, I am talking of rebelllion in a way of expressing new ideas, not burning down buildings to "bring down the man". Yet, if a teenager sees the "man" is corrupt doesn't he/she have just as much right to protest as any adult does? Face the consequences, good or bad, but at least try to make change for what they believe in?

I am not the kind to rebel to do homework or sit in class and do nothing to show someone "I can do what I want" as even though you do have this right, it is only hurting you as nothing is accomplished. Rebellion can be ignorant based on the intentions. I do feel like a silent rebel inside a lot of the time. Yet, I don't act out on my thoughts. I hate going through my day at school and just life, hearing everyone's ideas and keeping silent as they throw their thoughts into my head, thinking they are pointing me in the right direction. They may be, but it's still my choosing. Maybe adults feel they need to give their viewpoints, thinking we are easily brainwashed, and nieve. The only problem with this is that because I'm INTP, I am not like the average teen. So, therefore, I don't know how the intelligence level or mindset of most teenagers is at this age. Just the other day in a class discussion my teacher actually asked us if we actually think. Just think. Sit in your room with no sound and think. She said it as though it was a new concept, as if it was so extremely rare, the class look dumbfounded (did I mention i'm in honors classes?) I was shocked, I assumed everyone thought like I do. I take solitary walks, I sit on my porch alone, I sit in my room, everywhere I go I think. A lot of times interpretively, analytically, etc. So, just this realization and truth brought to me showed me a lot about how I compare to my fellow classmates and age group (I'm not trying to aggrandize myself in any way) so, based on my mindset, being rebellious is nothing more than actually questioning others, to make your own decisions, and breaking free from the clasp of an adult's hand as they walk beside you, as so many others follow for life. (This was probably too long, I babble too much!:p) A lot like Agent Intellect said
 

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"when they think of rebel they imagine this person who defies society by burning down buildings, taking violence, and protesting."

You mean like those guys in 1776?
 

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I was thinking of the other kind of rebels

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Personally I don't find teens to be a particularly "rebellious" group. Coming from the perspective of an adult whom has done some teaching, most teens are pretty cooperative and respectful so long as they are treated well. Generally I find teens are much easier to get along with than young children.

However some teens are hard to get along with, they like to cause a scene for its own sake, and dislike anyone that's in a position of authority no matter how that person has treated them. Then there's teens whom just have a crappy home life and feel the need to take it out on someone else. Of course it's not just teens whom act this way, there are adults whom behave no differently.

I think rebelling for rebellion's sake is silly, it's not even real rebellion, it's just causing a scene, creating chaos for the sake of chaos. However if you have a good cause then you should find a way to constructively take a stand, don't just mindlessly lash out (which I think INTPs are probably far less prone to doing than some other personality types).

Don't just vent on authority figures "because", some of us are just trying to put food on our plates, and aren't any happier about the system than you are. I know how truly crushing hierarchies can become.
If you treat us well you may even gain an ally.
 
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