So i found out im not really an INTP.

[Sigma Octantis]

im an INTJ...

i think im gunna go pack my stuffs and get out of here.


seriously now though.

it all makes sense to me now back then i couldn't find exactly where i fit in, when i took personality tests, they always change.

so i went to go see an actual psychologist. things are so much clearer to me now cause they have determined that i actually am an INTJ.

its why my entire life, i've had a hard time figuring out where i am and who i am as a person.

my occasional mood swings and frustrations, being bi-polar... like sometimes being extremely strict to being extremely laid back.



INTPs and INTJs are very much alike except for the way we deliver our selves.


I noticed with my self is, while other INTPs(when i still thought I was one) they cant deliver a story or a joke well enough but when it comes to me, i seem to deliver jokes with ease.

"INTJs can also be quite talkative and witty. Some are downright hilarious. Drawing on their memory for details and strong oratory skills, INTJs can make for good storytellers. Like INFJs, they enjoy employing stories, metaphors, and examples from popular culture (Se) to help illustrate abstract concepts or ideas. This represents a point of difference from their INTP counterparts, who, while witty, are generally poor at delivering stories or jokes. INTJs who allow the inner playfulness of their Ni to shine through will enjoy better success with people, taking the edge off what can be perceived as their sometimes harsh or insensitive Te." - http://personalityjunkie.com/the-intj

which totally makes sense to me cause people would describe me as that...

so now im wondering, maybe some of you guys are INTJ as well?



"In fact, it is not unusual for INJs, particularly INFJs, to be viewed as having some degree of psychic or prophetic abilities. Despite its magical appearance, Ni can be understood on a rational basis. What seems to be occurring is that INTJs have a highly sensitive inferior function, Extraverted Sensation (Se), which gathers copious amounts of sensory information from the outside world, including subtleties that other personality types tend to miss. Their Ni then subconsciously processes this data in order to make sense of it, like assembling pieces of a puzzle. Once finished, Ni generates an impression that seems to come “out of nowhere.” But the fact is that the intuition did not come from nowhere, but from a synthesis of sensory data gathered from the immediate environment combined with information from the INTJ’s own psyche." - http://personalityjunkie.com/the-intj/

I also have this weird ability to gather information from people just by looking at them.

its as if i can tell a persons personality just by looking at them and i can easily tell if people are lying or not or even be able to predict what they're planning or thinking of sometimes.


well, i was thinking about how i manage to do it and in my head...

when i see a persons face, all i have to do is to somewhat imagine them in situations, how they react to it and what they do kind of thing so i guess thats how im able to tell if a person is telling the truth based on their stories...

and pretty much their personality i guess.


and i guess this is why others may see me as an elitist snob.

theres quite a lot of similarties with INTJ and INTP...

but i guess the thing with INTJs is, we can combine both great imagination and great practicality to make something work out...





so now, im thinking, maybe lots of you guys are INTJs as well.

and im gunna go pack my stuffs and get out of here =P

 

[Sigma Octantis]

additional info....

these are some of the weak points of an INTJ



May be unaware (and sometimes uncaring) of how they come across to others - Just like INTPs

May quickly dismiss input from others without really considering it - Just like INTPs. and I used to do this a lot.

May apply their judgment more often towards others, rather than towards themselves.

With their ability to see an issue from many sides, they may always find others at fault for problems in their own lives. - Definitely do this a lot. im thinking of something and suddenly go... "oh man... i've done something wrong and i feel like i could have done something better."

May look at external ideas and people with the primary purpose of finding fault - I dont do that anymore.

May take pride in their ability to be critical and find fault in people and things. - I used to do that till i got called an insensitive jerk.

May have unrealistic and/or unreasonable expectations of others - definitely me.

May be intolerant of weaknesses in others - something im still working on, there are times i cannot tolerate people.

May believe that they're always right - hell yeah... there are times that i do believe that i am always right but thankfully lately, i can accept that there are times that i am wrong and let others have their way... only to end the disagreement.


May be cuttingly derisive and sarcastic towards others - just like many INTPs. Im sure im not the only one here that possess this weakness.

May have an intense and quick temper - my mood swings lol.

May hold grudges, and have difficulty forgiving people - definitely me... well, i can forgive people but i can never forget what theyve done so i kind of treat them differently... in a way, its not really completely forgiving =/

May be wishy-washy and unsure how to act in situations that require - can definitely be me, i cant even explain it...

May have difficulty communicating their thoughts and feelings to others - just like INTPs are.

May see so many tangents everywhere that they can't stay focused on the bottom line or the big picture - Just like INTPs.


i guess my perceiving function i quite well developed thats why i test positive to an INTP at times too but at least now i have a definite INTJ answer for my personality type.

 

[Mello]

Ti-Ne/Fe-Si — INTJ Ni-Te/Fi-Se —INTP

I'm a unicorn.

 

[Words]

Humor is relative. personalityjunkie is full of shit.

 

[Dapper Dan]

INTPs and INTJs are very much alike except for the way we deliver our selves.

I would tend to disagree with this.

For me, interacting with INTJs is weird. On the outside we look similar. But the underlying processes are so different that everything is underpinned by a weird uncanny valley feeling. It's like our brains are magnets facing opposite directions.

 

[Darby]

I would tend to disagree with this.

For me, interacting with INTJs is weird. On the outside we look similar. But the underlying processes are so different that everything is underpinned by a weird uncanny valley feeling. It's like our brains are magnets facing opposite directions.

I have to agree on this, as fun and enjoyable as it is to talk and discuss things with my INTJ friend, it's clear that we simply are not on the same page. He clearly has a specific goal in mind, while I just like playing with ideas and considering options.

 

[Sigma Octantis]

I have to agree on this, as fun and enjoyable as it is to talk and discuss things with my INTJ friend, it's clear that we simply are not on the same page. He clearly has a specific goal in mind, while I just like playing with ideas and considering options.

i suppose this is right, i noticed it about me when i was having doubts.

i have an intp friend and he seems to have lots of ideas going on but as for me.
when i get an idea to improve a certain situation.

i stick to it, i analyze the pros and cons of it, look for an alternative to fix the cons until i finally reached the perfect solution.

mean while, my intp friend likes to juggle around with lots of ideas.

i guess its why were a great team, we can both give out so many ideas and im the one that re-inforces what idea to take and how to deal with it kind of thing.


still, INTP and INTJs still has a lot of similarities, imo.

 

[Darby]

still, INTP and INTJs still has a lot of similarities, imo.

Yeah, I don't mean to disagree, I was specifically thinking of when me and my friend were in a philosophy club together, or worked on projects together. As well as we worked together, it often felt like we were trying to take discussions in two totally different directions. The communication itself I think goes really well between INTPs and INTJs because we are both heavy logic users. So putting forth ideas, and explaining them is similar.

 

[Namesmith]

INTP isn't a metal box; it's a generality that gives us insight into ourselves and others.

 

[Pilot the Cannibal]

A similar thing happened to me! I was an INTP when I first took the test. Then I got diagnosed with ADD, started taking Adderall, took the test again a month later, and became an INTJ. -_-

I still consider myself an INTP, though. The description just sounds more like me than that of an INTJ. The personality types are all subjective, anyways; you obviously can't perfectly fit everybody in 16 different groups; so maybe you could pose as an INTP or an INTJ depending on how you're feeling that day. I guess you don't have to pack up your bags, after all...haha.

 

[Melkor]

How tragic.

You shall have to die. :<

 

[Pizzabeak]

If I even am an "INTP", I have an INTJ friend - the one who originally had me take the test - and when we chat I can see how we might be similar but I can also spot noticeable differences.

 

[haekal]

im an INTJ...

i think im gunna go pack my stuffs and get out of here.


seriously now though.

it all makes sense to me now back then i couldn't find exactly where i fit in, when i took personality tests, they always change.

so i went to go see an actual psychologist. things are so much clearer to me now cause they have determined that i actually am an INTJ.

its why my entire life, i've had a hard time figuring out where i am and who i am as a person.

my occasional mood swings and frustrations, being bi-polar... like sometimes being extremely strict to being extremely laid back.



INTPs and INTJs are very much alike except for the way we deliver our selves.


I noticed with my self is, while other INTPs(when i still thought I was one) they cant deliver a story or a joke well enough but when it comes to me, i seem to deliver jokes with ease.

"INTJs can also be quite talkative and witty. Some are downright hilarious. Drawing on their memory for details and strong oratory skills, INTJs can make for good storytellers. Like INFJs, they enjoy employing stories, metaphors, and examples from popular culture (Se) to help illustrate abstract concepts or ideas. This represents a point of difference from their INTP counterparts, who, while witty, are generally poor at delivering stories or jokes. INTJs who allow the inner playfulness of their Ni to shine through will enjoy better success with people, taking the edge off what can be perceived as their sometimes harsh or insensitive Te." - http://personalityjunkie.com/the-intj

which totally makes sense to me cause people would describe me as that...

so now im wondering, maybe some of you guys are INTJ as well?



"In fact, it is not unusual for INJs, particularly INFJs, to be viewed as having some degree of psychic or prophetic abilities. Despite its magical appearance, Ni can be understood on a rational basis. What seems to be occurring is that INTJs have a highly sensitive inferior function, Extraverted Sensation (Se), which gathers copious amounts of sensory information from the outside world, including subtleties that other personality types tend to miss. Their Ni then subconsciously processes this data in order to make sense of it, like assembling pieces of a puzzle. Once finished, Ni generates an impression that seems to come “out of nowhere.” But the fact is that the intuition did not come from nowhere, but from a synthesis of sensory data gathered from the immediate environment combined with information from the INTJ’s own psyche." - http://personalityjunkie.com/the-intj/

I also have this weird ability to gather information from people just by looking at them.

its as if i can tell a persons personality just by looking at them and i can easily tell if people are lying or not or even be able to predict what they're planning or thinking of sometimes.


well, i was thinking about how i manage to do it and in my head...

when i see a persons face, all i have to do is to somewhat imagine them in situations, how they react to it and what they do kind of thing so i guess thats how im able to tell if a person is telling the truth based on their stories...

and pretty much their personality i guess.


and i guess this is why others may see me as an elitist snob.

theres quite a lot of similarties with INTJ and INTP...

but i guess the thing with INTJs is, we can combine both great imagination and great practicality to make something work out...





so now, im thinking, maybe lots of you guys are INTJs as well.

and im gunna go pack my stuffs and get out of here =P

are u really sure u can tell someone's personality just by looking at someone
without any clues?

 

[envirodude]

I wouldn't sweat it. No one tests 100% x or y, it's always a gradient. I usually test 80% I, 70%N, 70%T, and 50/50 J/P. Try hanging out at INTJf, and see if that feels better for you.

 

[Hadoblado]

One of my best friends is a strong INTJ, and despite our glaring differences, we generally make a good team. He is far more practical than I will ever be... to be honest, if we were a team I'd be the weak point... but we have a good back-and-forth and I think we both grow in each other's company.

I wouldn't worry too much about what type you are, the validity of MBTI is highly suspect, and other than giving you the initial means of person categorisation, it is not that useful IMO.

 

[hablahdoo]

I wouldn't worry too much about what type you are, the validity of MBTI is highly suspect, and other than giving you the initial means of person categorization, it is not that useful IMO.

For sure. Whether I solve in preparation (J) or in realtime (P) seems so circumstantial that my overall tendency seems like a strange classification. But perhaps I am not knowledgeable enough about MBTI to really understand it (I find it hard to read in depth as their reasoning is unclear to me and possibly bullshit).

For example, something you learn very quickly playing a strategy game like Starcraft is that you have no time to understand the game while you're banging away at your keyboard. Even an intelligent P will lose if he wastes a second thinking when he should have been elsewhere. So you use big assumptions you figured out beforehand.

Life can be the same way. When there's a lot to deal with preparing ahead of time seems best. When it's simpler then the flexibility of realtime is preferred... Up throughout high school my behavior would be observed erratic and unplanned. But now in college I find it necessary to meticulously schedule my time. What does this say about me? Not much.

 

[BigApplePi]

Yes I found out im not really an INTP.

Consider this: what if INTP's and INTJ's are just different outlooks of the same person? What does an INTP do once they've made a decision? Are they INTJish? What does an INTJ do when they need to revise? Are they INTPish?

Said another way, we can assume some people are less decisive in some general way than others. But in living our lives, decisions have to be made. Don't all actions means mulling them over beforehand (INTPish) and then finally making them? What is our attitude toward a confirmed action?

1. I still am not sure. Did I do the right thing? Maybe I shouldn't have.
2. I did it. Forget about it. I will live with it.
3. I wouldn't have taken this action unless it was the right one. It was the right one. I'm going to promote it as such.

Are people always one of those three or does it depend on the situation? Can we then conclude that one is not an INTP or an INTJ, but rather someone who leans to one of the characteristics most of the time?

I am INTP most of the time but INTJ some of the time
or
I am INTJ most of the time but INTP some of the time.

I realize this is a rejection of hard and fast "type theory", but what about it? Are you going to scan my brain to find me out?