Sharing your knowledge

[NTJ]

Again, if you're an INTP, share your type.

Do you actually share your knowledge with others? Do you like doing it, do you do it just because you think it's a nice thing to do or is there another reason?

Hypothetical situation 1: You and a friend of yours are working on a school project. You both are doing fine, however you notice that your friend is doing it in a very inefficient, even stupid way that takes more time and won't give as good of an outcome. He doesn't ask for help, however he doesn't turn help down when it comes either.

Hypothetical situation 2: You play an online game with your friend. Since you have more free time, you play more, but you've made a deal to only play together, therefore you have another character of the same class as your friend's. While playing together, you both are doing great, however you notice that your friend makes stupid choices when advancing his character, buying equipment, etc.. Knowing that your actions would not influence his view towards you or the performance of you both gaming, but WOULD influence his decisions towards his character, would you tell him that he's making a stupid choice and should choose something else? (for example don't up attack speed, but up attack damage, because it results in more DPS)

 

[Cognisant]

1: Ask if he wants help.

2: Offer advice, but only give it if asked.

Nobody likes to receive unsolicited advice/help, but one can offer.

 

[Moocow]

Again, if you're an INTP, share your type.

Do you actually share your knowledge with others? Do you like doing it, do you do it just because you think it's a nice thing to do or is there another reason?

Hypothetical situation 1: You and a friend of yours are working on a school project. You both are doing fine, however you notice that your friend is doing it in a very inefficient, even stupid way that takes more time and won't give as good of an outcome. He doesn't ask for help, however he doesn't turn help down when it comes either.

Hypothetical situation 2: You play an online game with your friend. Since you have more free time, you play more, but you've made a deal to only play together, therefore you have another character of the same class as your friend's. While playing together, you both are doing great, however you notice that your friend makes stupid choices when advancing his character, buying equipment, etc.. Knowing that your actions would not influence his view towards you or the performance of you both gaming, but WOULD influence his decisions towards his character, would you tell him that he's making a stupid choice and should choose something else? (for example don't up attack speed, but up attack damage, because it results in more DPS)

I share my knowledge because I want people to benefit from it. I mostly share things that I'm sure of, like habits or practices which have withstood repetition over a long time which I can also make strong arguments for.
Otherwise I may share knowledge that I find surprising or revealing, if only partially confident in its truth. Especially if I feel like it might shake someone's foundations a bit. I take some pleasure in the theatrics of it all, because I see worldviews as fortresses. Some are shoddy, some are strong, some never make it past the foundation and some are never renovated, but they are all at war.

Situation 1: Are you asking what I'd do? I'd help him if he didn't turn it down. Would you not? More specifically, I'd be happy to be able to help.

Situation 2: I wouldn't tell him he's making a stupid choice. It doesn't help someone to insult their intelligence. There are ways to help someone make better choices that stimulate their own faculties than to dismiss them as wholly ineffective while imposing your own.

 

[NTJ]

I share my knowledge because I want people to benefit from it. I mostly share things that I'm sure of, like habits or practices which have withstood repetition over a long time which I can also make strong arguments for.
Otherwise I may share knowledge that I find surprising or revealing, if only partially confident in its truth. Especially if I feel like it might shake someone's foundations a bit. I take some pleasure in the theatrics of it all, because I see worldviews as fortresses. Some are shoddy, some are strong, some never make it past the foundation and some are never renovated, but they are all at war.

Situation 1: Are you asking what I'd do? I'd help him if he didn't turn it down. Would you not? More specifically, I'd be happy to be able to help.

Situation 2: I wouldn't tell him he's making a stupid choice. It doesn't help someone to insult their intelligence. There are ways to help someone make better choices that stimulate their own faculties than to dismiss them as wholly ineffective while imposing your own.

Now that is an answer like I'm looking for!

The first part sounded very Si.

 

[TheScornedReflex]

You are trying to understand INTPs?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Again, if you're an INTP, share your type.

Do you actually share your knowledge with others? Do you like doing it, do you do it just because you think it's a nice thing to do or is there another reason?

Hypothetical situation 1: You and a friend of yours are working on a school project. You both are doing fine, however you notice that your friend is doing it in a very inefficient, even stupid way that takes more time and won't give as good of an outcome. He doesn't ask for help, however he doesn't turn help down when it comes either.

Hypothetical situation 2: You play an online game with your friend. Since you have more free time, you play more, but you've made a deal to only play together, therefore you have another character of the same class as your friend's. While playing together, you both are doing great, however you notice that your friend makes stupid choices when advancing his character, buying equipment, etc.. Knowing that your actions would not influence his view towards you or the performance of you both gaming, but WOULD influence his decisions towards his character, would you tell him that he's making a stupid choice and should choose something else? (for example don't up attack speed, but up attack damage, because it results in more DPS)

Both of these situations are mundane and friendly enough to not really bring out anything other than intent to help. At least, anyone who would do anything but help, or offer it in a friendly manner, anyhow, in both situations could easily be considered an asshole.

1) Offer a few pointers, but only continue helping if he doesn't improve performance or asks.

2) I wouldn't use the word "stupid" until he offered needless resistance to my advice... maybe. I'd probably just say "If you're going for more damage output get attack power gear instead of haste gear, because while they both increase damage the attack power effects it at a higher ratio.", or whatever the case may be.

I tend not to offer advice unless I notice someone may need it, as I have the habit of assuming people know what they're doing without a reason to suppose otherwise.

I have to admit, I do enjoy when someone uses and benefits from my advice, and even more if they thank me for my help. However, I'm not, ultimately, good at accepting compliments, nor do I think people are somehow required to follow my advice.

 

[NTJ]

"assuming people know what they're doing," a psycho strangling a woman thinks he knows what he's doing, but is his reasoning not foul and he REALLY does know what he's doing?

 

[HDINTP]

situation 1- Only if I am asked
situation 2 - same as 1

However I find above situations not serious so in "serious" I can share my knowledge give advice if I find it necessary or it is someone I care about and think that he has some sort of problem then I will try to talk about it and make it look like it was not a point of conversation in the beginning

I think good example would be if I sort of "my past self" in someone (10-18 years probably I would prefer) like emotional problems and things like that. Which is almost necessary then isn't it?

But I am in contact with ONE friend currently so...

 

[NTJ]

I see, so past self, you would try to help. Emotional Si-Fe connection?

 

[own8ge]

INFJ here.

Hypothetical situation 1: HELL YES! I spend most (if not all) of my time at school helping my class mates. (I would walk around, give tips, help them to improve things. Etc.)

Hypothetical situation 2: Yes. I would definitely note that to him.

In general, I always help people, always. Even if I myself will degrade from it.

 

[NTJ]

If only there was a classmate like you when I used to go to school. lol

 

[SpaceYeti]

"assuming people know what they're doing," a psycho strangling a woman thinks he knows what he's doing, but is his reasoning not foul and he REALLY does know what he's doing?

He probably at least has a good idea. This is one of those edge cases where the normal rules don't apply, though, and I'd try to stop him.

 

[HDINTP]

I see, so past self, you would try to help. Emotional Si-Fe connection?

I learned slowly to accept it more easily as time was passing

 

[Proletar]

Interesting scenarios!


#1:
Easy. I'd just go to the teacher dropping some semi-true and true things about how he's behaving to get the teacher to take my original message back to him. If he wont listen, his faults lies with the teacher and if he does, I've got a project going on.


#2:
It really is a dilemma. Watching him burn or approaching him with a bucket of unknown content? First off - I rarely store knowledge. Instead, what comes out of me is a steady yet elusive stream of wisdom that is in the moment. Earlier non-existant, later again lost. So it's not like I'm going to spoil the secret and my own advantage. I'm just giving people a reflection of it anyway.

First off, I would make my help seem interesting. I'd try to make a mystery of who I am and why I'm trying to help him. I think I would send him an in-game mail under another name, telling him why he sucks the same way Gandalf tells Bilbo he's an idiot wasting all his potential and doing nothing with his life. When my friend had started to pick up and appreciate the new tactics, I would reveal myself again and maybe go out powergrinding or something with my new friend that is now an allie and not just a project.


That, or I would scorn him constantly until he either gave up on the game or started listening. I may even have gone horde and ganked him.

 

[NTJ]

How does Gandaf do that?

 

[Proletar]

How does Gandaf do that?

In a very friendly, helpful and concerned way that Bilbo could accept.

 

[PhoenixRising]

I am an INTP

1: I would describe my (more efficient) process in a subtle way as if just sharing information about myself, not expecting them to change their method, but providing an alternative that they can use if they want. It would be a bit direct for me to actually ask "do you need help?" because that question in itself can lead the other person to wonder, "Do I look like I do? Do they think I'm doing something wrong?" This changes with people I'm really close to, or if the question is expected in the circumstance.

2: I would ask my friend if they wanted some tips before offering advice. There is the possibility that they may want to work through things the hard way and learn on their own. I wouldn't want to curb their learning process if that was the case, but I'd be happy to help otherwise.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Do you actually share your knowledge with others? Do you like doing it, do you do it just because you think it's a nice thing to do or is there another reason?

Not IRL, no; in most situations my knowledge is too specialized to be of everyday relevance, and usually incomprehensible to the general person. It's easier to do any work myself.

When I do share knowledge, it's because I think the situation is critical, too important to keep it to myself. Especially online, another motivation surfaces, which is wanting to be of beneficial service according to my capabilities.


HS # 1: If my grading scores weren't dependent on this person, I wouldn't care as much to intervene.

HS # 2: You said friend. Well yeah, I'd want to help them be a better player if we're friends. Not in your words/perspective though, it seems unnecessarily harsh(?).

 

[Katy]

Again, if you're an INTP, share your type.

Do you actually share your knowledge with others? Do you like doing it, do you do it just because you think it's a nice thing to do or is there another reason?

Hypothetical situation 1: You and a friend of yours are working on a school project. You both are doing fine, however you notice that your friend is doing it in a very inefficient, even stupid way that takes more time and won't give as good of an outcome. He doesn't ask for help, however he doesn't turn help down when it comes either.

Hypothetical situation 2: You play an online game with your friend. Since you have more free time, you play more, but you've made a deal to only play together, therefore you have another character of the same class as your friend's. While playing together, you both are doing great, however you notice that your friend makes stupid choices when advancing his character, buying equipment, etc.. Knowing that your actions would not influence his view towards you or the performance of you both gaming, but WOULD influence his decisions towards his character, would you tell him that he's making a stupid choice and should choose something else? (for example don't up attack speed, but up attack damage, because it results in more DPS)

Share knowledge...? Not really... whatever I know generally doesn't mean much to people - what they wanna know is more the intuitive side of me like, 'what decision is best for me?' kinda stuff. Anytime I've gone off on a tangent, I generally get a weird look and there's a pause in the group so I tend to shut up these days.

H1 - I'd ask why they were doing it that way and perhaps offer more efficient options for them to try, leaving the final decision to them.

H2 - probably the same as H1... I'm pretty lax when it comes to gaming so if they wanna be difficult, that's their business *shrugs*