Rigid thinking and impartiality

[Nofriends]

I hate how emotions can thwart human potential and destroy any impartiality, the rigidity of 'intellectual' thought is due to the failings of society and world.

 

[Turnevies]

Yes, decisions should be made on rational arguments as much as possible.

But rationality only doesn't give you a direction, it can only help achieve bigger (moral) goals set by emotions.

 

[xbox]

I hate how emotions can thwart human potential and destroy any impartiality, the rigidity of 'intellectual' thought is due to the failings of society and world.

Completely agree. So many times I have tried to have a conversation with someone and they get all emo on me. No wonder I can't take anything seriously anymore. Pure logic is hard to come by.

Funny you mention this. Was watching a news interview with 2 trump supporters and 2 clinton supporters. The trump supporter was losing so badly in the debate(?) and started to cry/shout. It was weird.

 

[Happy]

I hate to think of a world where only the most rational prevail. What a dump that would be.

 

[crippli]

I'm inclined to agree. The only problem is that rational thought is a construct, where as emotional 'thought' is not.

 

[vanJoseph]

Lol, this explains why I had so many break ups. However, The drive of emotions is powerful and contagious. How else could people continue to spread illogical beliefs.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Yes, decisions should be made on rational arguments as much as possible.

But rationality only doesn't give you a direction, it can only help achieve bigger (moral) goals set by emotions.

False. Reason can show us human nature and thereby show us our needs. Dead simple. Don't regurgitate that myth again please.

 

[Grayman]

False. Reason can show us human nature and thereby show us our needs. Dead simple. Don't regurgitate that myth again please.

Emotions are a reflection of our needs. He looks in a mirror, points at the mirror, and says thats me. You argue that he is not in fact pointing at himself but at a mirror.

Silly argument.

 

[Tannhauser]

It has been shown that without "emotions", a human brain cannot make even trivial decisions in everyday life. This is related to the so-called somatic marker hypothesis.

The distinction between emotion and rational thought effectively takes us 400 years back to the Cartesian dualism.

 

[The Gopher]

You just need correct emotions.

 

[Turnevies]

False. Reason can show us human nature and thereby show us our needs. Dead simple. Don't regurgitate that myth again please.

I challenge you to think deeper, you already have made a premise of the interpretation of 'human nature' and that needs should be fulfilled.

We are as living creatures just a bunch of ordered molecules. And these happen to do some self-sustainment. Not because of y'now, purpose, but because only self-sustaining creatures will survive (never thought of it that way, but evolution is in this sense similar to the anthropic principle).

Now, when your concious self decides deliberately it wants to fullfil this sustainment needs (including reproduction), I call this emotion-based. There is, strictly speaking, nothing wrong logically with thinking: 'fuck the world, I'll just kill myself'

Indeed, once you accept the premise of councious self-sustanment for humans it is more pragmatic to work together than fight each other constantly.


But to give you a more concrete example of a situation where I believe logic cannot give you a single solution: until how long after conception should an abortion be legal?

 

[Sinny91]

False. Reason can show us human nature and thereby show us our needs. Dead simple. Don't regurgitate that myth again please.

Oh yea, because Bronto has succeeded where all previous philosophers before have not.

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I was listening to a number of lectures last night, on what it means to be Godless...

And one of the messages which stuck with me was that without acknowledging a higher authority than ourselves, our morals have no basis.

We can act as nice as we like, but it's probably just pragmatism.

In a world without emotion, or a higher calling, what separates good and evil?
What is sanctity and what is not? Is anything? and where does that leave us?