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When I say that, what band comes to your mind? I discovered a band some time ago which is pretty much my absolute favourite band now.
It's not really a very famous band so I'll leave it to the "mussicy" ones of you, to to give it a go, if you want to know.
(Hey, that rhymed, hehe)

Either way, some of their music, I do not know why I enjoy. It is, as the genre might tell, very noisy. Just screeching guitar that's tearing your ears apart.
But I can't stop listening, can't stop finding more bootlegs.

Do any of you have bands like that? Where there's just "something" as cheesy as it may sound.

Another band example (which has nothing to do with psychedelic-noise) is "Chromatics" they have a 15 minute song which is pretty much 5 minutes of the same beat and then 6, or so, minutes of one tone and then at the end the beat very very slowly comes back. You can't even hear it come back, you just sort of notice it and suddenly it's back. Incredibly "boring" yet I love it.

EDIT: There are more 'soft' songs from the first band I mentioned. Almost sort of "blues'ey" or soft-psychedelic, like Hendrix.
 

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I could only come up with Boris and Hendrix stuff when I think of psychedelic noise rock. I don't know many bands there. Maybe MC5.

Floor is probably also worth listening to for noise-rock, but is not directly similar(their music lacks psychedelia). They have some long and repetitive doom-drone songs that are kind of meditative.
 

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Early Sonic Youth would probably fit in the category. In particular the "Confusion is sex" -album. Maybe not so 'psychedelic' per se, but as to 'noise rock' - I'd say definitely.

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Oh, yeah and everything I've heard from Melt Banana could be slipped into that category too. I've not listened to them extensively, but liked it a lot.
 

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Oh, I also loved Psychedelic-Noise-Rock when I was younger. It was the same to me, I couldn't explain it to noone why I like this music, but I did.

Here are some other "boring" and endless riffs songs, hope you enjoy them, though only the first one counts as Noise-Rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_fE9JTYVVM&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO7VP34n2Ps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBP57yI-jmY

Not very much for the first one. The second two are alright though!
Wouldn't call the last one Psychedelic, let a lone noise, though.. Hehe.

EDIT: But the Electric Wizard one is very cool. Would call or "metal psychedelic" or something. If I had to put it into a genre myself. I like how it goes but I'm again, not too fond of the very "metally" sound. I don't like metal.

(And now I'm sure a metalhead is going to go "Metal is a very wide genre, don't make a blanket statement like that" And I agree, it is a very wide genre. But there is just 'something' in all metal songs. I can just instantly tell if it's semi-metal)

I'm sort of on the hippie side of rock. Hendrix, Cream, Steppenwolf etc. I don't even like Sabbath.
 

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Off-topic: Lobstrich: Is your name a mix of lobster and austrich?? I just wondered^^

(And now I'm sure a metalhead is going to go "Metal is a very wide genre, don't make a blanket statement like that" And I agree, it is a very wide genre. But there is just 'something' in all metal songs. I can just instantly tell if it's semi-metal)

I'm sort of on the hippie side of rock. Hendrix, Cream, Steppenwolf etc. I don't even like Sabbath.
I totally know what you mean. I also prefer the hippie side of rock like you call it! :D


This is the band I was initially talking about
Oh, I have many similar songs on my harddrive at home. Unfortunately I am at work now and they are probably not on youtube.
 

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Off-topic: Lobstrich: Is your name a mix of lobster and austrich?? I just wondered^^

Yes, a Lobster and Ostrich. It's sort of an inside joke, really. I have this thing with "Lobster" or "Hummer" as it is said in Danish. I like to call people "Hummer" or if they ask "What are we having?" I just go "Hummer" I've no idea why, I just do.

And I just sort of like the word "Ostrich" so I figured "Lobster" and/or "Ostrich" was too boring so I mixed it, hehe.

Oh, I have many similar songs on my harddrive at home. Unfortunately I am at work now and they are probably not on youtube.

Well, give it a listen when you get home then!
 

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Sorry I got to post this here, although it has not much to do with noise rock, but it's just too good to be unheard! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-zxpeaNUU

Quite like the beginning, also a little of the ending. But around 5:30 or something like that it got a little too "metally". I'm a little... Delicate, when it comes to that.

But it was just a little to "Iron Man-ish" with a the heavy and slow riff, you know?
 

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Yes, a Lobster and Ostrich. It's sort of an inside joke, really. I have this thing with "Lobster" or "Hummer" as it is said in Danish. I like to call people "Hummer" or if they ask "What are we having?" I just go "Hummer" I've no idea why, I just do.

And I just sort of like the word "Ostrich" so I figured "Lobster" and/or "Ostrich" was too boring so I mixed it, hehe.
I really like it^^ Maybe it sounds weird, but I can identify myself with the story, I got similar habits.

Well, give it a listen when you get home then!
I will, but I won't come home today. Hopefully I find them on the internet.

Quite like the beginning, also a little of the ending. But around 5:30 or something like that it got a little too "metally". I'm a little... Delicate, when it comes to that.

But it was just a little to "Iron Man-ish" with a the heavy and slow riff, you know?
I understand :D


But for the meantime I got some Psychedelic-New-Art-Rock from my country for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmpXVT5KSnE
 

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I will, but I won't come home today. Hopefully I find them on the internet.

I meant the band that I had linked =)


But for the meantime I got some Psychedelic-New-Art-Rock from my country for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmpXVT5KSnE

I'm assuming that you Austrian? I listen to two German Krautrock bands. (I realise that Germany and Austria is not the same.. Just in case you or anyone else was going to say that)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDcFukqR1_0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytrfwz0V5U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgrMqbvVaDA&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc_2eI_Br9Y

EDIT: Oh and it's not "nazibands" A lot of ignorant people seem to think that they are.. Whatever a "naziband" is.


 

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I meant the band that I had linked =)
Hehe, I see now. Of course!


I'm assuming that you Austrian? I listen to two German Krautrock bands. (I realise that Germany and Austria is not the same.. Just in case you or anyone else was going to say that)
:D That's right. Very nice, i follow the Krautrock scene for a while now. It's growing really fast for a genre like this and I'm very happy about this fact. And thanks for the edit but it wouldn't have been a problem for me.^^


EDIT: Oh and it's not "nazibands" A lot of ignorant people seem to think that they are.. Whatever a "naziband" is.

Hahah Ok this is due to the titles and the Hitler-Speeches mixed into the songs by German Oak, but everyone who knows a bit about Krautrock will tell you, that they are no Nazis for sure. It's just a reprocessing about their/our history. The only "real Nazi-bands" I know come from Norway and are called NSBM-Bands (National-Socialist-Black-Metal) and some bands who sound like Punk bands. Last ones come from Germany and mostly from America (I know that's weird). Ah fuck that shit^^

EDIT: Sorry for the unnecessarily long explanation, but we got a little Nazi-hang-up here in Austria. You know: I grew up in the town where Hitler was born and went to the same school as he did. Of course we all hate him and are a little sensitive when it comes to the Nazi debate...
 

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:D That's right. Very nice, i follow the Krautrock scene for a while now. It's growing really fast for a genre like this and I'm very happy about this fact. And thanks for the edit but it wouldn't have been a problem for me.^^

It's growing? Still? I thought Krautrock (or at least 'real' Krautrock) sort of stopped again, in the 70's 80's. I haven't really researched it to be honest, was just an assumption.

Hahah Ok this is due to the titles and the Hitler-Speeches mixed into the songs by German Oak, but everyone who knows a bit about Krautrock will tell you, that they are no Nazis for sure. It's just a reprocessing about their/our history. The only "real Nazi-bands" I know come from Norway and are called NSBM-Bands (National-Socialist-Black-Metal) and some bands who sound like Punk bands. Last ones come from Germany and mostly from America (I know that's weird). Ah fuck that shit^^
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Exactly. German Oak is far from being a "naziband" they were a bunch of hippies experimenting. To be honest I think the whole Krautrock movement started because Nazism was (obviously) a taboo after WW2. Maybe this was their way of looking into history? Their way of making the past less "scary" trying to stop WW2 from becoming the "ultimate" taboo.
 

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It's growing? Still? I thought Krautrock (or at least 'real' Krautrock) sort of stopped again, in the 70's 80's. I haven't really researched it to be honest, was just an assumption

Yeah, it got some sort of reincarnation. It sounds a bit different and is a bit into Stoner Rock, but it's coming back. You won't read much about it on the internet i guess.

Exactly. German Oak is far from being a "naziband" they were a bunch of hippies experimenting. To be honest I think the whole Krautrock movement started because Nazism was (obviously) a taboo after WW2. Maybe this was their way of looking into history? Their way of making the past less "scary" trying to stop WW2 from becoming the "ultimate" taboo.

Very nice, that's called insight^^ Of course it's very hard for outsiders to see. Have you got something similar in Denmark? I mean, it's not that far away^^
 

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Yeah, it got some sort of reincarnation. It sounds a bit different and is a bit into Stoner Rock, but it's coming back. You won't read much about it on the internet i guess.

What is "Stoner Rock"? I've always thought stoner rock would be like slow, chill music. But it's so fast and "aaarrrrrrrggghhh" (can't really explain what I mean with "aaarrrggh" It's just it's so... Unrefined. 'S like they sing in 'caps lock' all the time, there's no changing of tones. And the guitar riff is just on repeat.) hurts my ears. Queens of the Stone Age is Stoner Rock, correct? Only song of theirs which I like are the ones that are slow, and relaxed.


Very nice, that's called insight^^ Of course it's very hard for outsiders to see. Have you got something similar in Denmark? I mean, it's not that far away^^

Well, we don't, not with WW2. But there's always things that are taboo in different countries.

And yes, I have massive insight.. I'm a cultured person, can't help it.
Really though, I don't know. It was just the most logical assumption I could make. Drew the conclusion that Nazism was taboo because it's straight out illegal in Germany, WW2 games are banned left and right, etc.
 

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What is "Stoner Rock"? I've always thought stoner rock would be like slow, chill music. But it's so fast and "aaarrrrrrrggghhh" (can't really explain what I mean with "aaarrrggh" It's just it's so... Unrefined. 'S like they sing in 'caps lock' all the time, there's no changing of tones. And the guitar riff is just on repeat.) hurts my ears. Queens of the Stone Age is Stoner Rock, correct? Only song of theirs which I like are the ones that are slow, and relaxed.

What? Stoner Rock IS slow and chilly, ok sometimes it's a bit "metally" but only a few bands. Queens of the Stone Age is a bit Stoner Rock that's true. I give you some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v3rW2iFhS8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmK-ukwTfUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAxFEJMbbvw

Wheter you like it or not, it's my favourite style of music :D


Well, we don't, not with WW2. But there's always things that are taboo in different countries.

And yes, I have massive insight.. I'm a cultured person, can't help it.
Really though, I don't know. It was just the most logical assumption I could make. Drew the conclusion that Nazism was taboo because it's straight out illegal in Germany, WW2 games are banned left and right, etc.

Hehe! Yeah I always got to point this out, because as you said, there are too many ignorant people. People like you are rare^^
 

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What? Stoner Rock IS slow and chilly, ok sometimes it's a bit "metally" but only a few bands. Queens of the Stone Age is a bit Stoner Rock that's true. I give you some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s88r_q7oufE

The first one I could find. The vocals are fine but the actual music... Ugh. Especially in the chorus.
But I don't know, maybe QOTSA isn't Stoner Rock. I just remember som guy asking me "Do you like Stoner Rock?" when I mentioned them.


Hehe! Yeah I always got to point this out, because as you said, there are too many ignorant people. People like you are rare^^

That would be a compliment.

EDIT: This is pretty much the only song by QOTSA that I like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wTxqHbJOzg&ob=av2n
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkn09ZCUCyc
 

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The first one I could find. The vocals are fine but the actual music... Ugh. Especially in the chorus.
But I don't know, maybe QOTSA isn't Stoner Rock. I just remember som guy asking me "Do you like Stoner Rock?" when I mentioned them.

Yeah I know. Some of their members played in the former band Kyuss and kind of invented the new Stoner Rock genre. That's why many people think Queens of the Stone Age do Stoner Rock, but at least they got a few songs like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3gEsNghpuA


That would be a compliment.

Oh, yeah, I think so^^
 

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I generally like progressive or post rock more than what you are describing but here are some good things from that realm you may like.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5SG8LlIqoY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o0Vcsr3iqc

I am not sure on this one, its the band i am thinking off but they have some range in their songs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqUPRYmZWUg&feature=related

I like Flower Travellin' Band, especially their song called "Hiroshima" a lot of people compare it to Black Sabbath's Iron Man but I don't think their alike. But please, don't tell me that consider you them to be more progressive than Les Rallizes Dénudés. Rallizes pratically created the Japanese rock scene. They were pioneers of psychedelic rock and noise rock.
I've linked two songs of theirs.
 

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I think i was saying I like progressive rock more than I like Psych. I often find them next to each other at the record store but I like one and the other leaves me a little flat. I like the more constructed sound of prog. I think i hear elements of prog metal in Satori.

If you are interested i have done a few music reviews on my blog here is a listing of them. I was trying to focus on early metal at one point. You may be interested in Iron Claw, Electric Funeral, Dust, Sir Lord Baltimore and Blue Cheer. Those are the ones that are like Sabbath if that is your thing.

http://crescentstar.blogspot.com/search/label/Music Review
 

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I think i was saying I like progressive rock more than I like Psych. I often find them next to each other at the record store but I like one and the other leaves me a little flat. I like the more constructed sound of prog. I think i hear elements of prog metal in Satori.

I can see how you find Psychedelic to lack... Structure. But I think Mizutani (Vocals and lead in Rallizes) is very much in control of the 'noises' he's making.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8FiyHyptCw

If you are interested i have done a few music reviews on my blog here is a listing of them. I was trying to focus on early metal at one point. You may be interested in Iron Claw, Electric Funeral, Dust, Sir Lord Baltimore and Blue Cheer. Those are the ones that are like Sabbath if that is your thing.

http://crescentstar.blogspot.com/search/label/Music Review

I can see that you've not read the entire thread, hehe.
Because no, I'm not att all into Sabbath. I'm more on the "hippie side" as I said to SandMizzle. You know: Hendrix, Cream, Steppenwolf.. Rallizes.

I dislike pretty much all metal music, and I realise it's a "wide genre" but there's just "something" in all metal music that just makes me go "ugh, no thanks" it's hard to explain. Metal is just sort of "sharp", "edgy" (no pun intended) while the "hippie side" (don't know what to call it) is "round" and "smooth", you know?
 

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I can understand, thought many of the artist i listed are sort of in between metal and the psych rock you are mentioning. Most are sort of a heavy blues. Those are all bands that have been labeled with the proto metal name.

If you search on the artists i mentioned in youtube you will probably find several suggestions for bands that you may like. Captain beyond, Vanilla Fudge, Atomic Rooster were all bands i decided were too psych sounding to be metal. All were listed as suggestions for the bands I do like.

I typically think of metal and prog as being requiring a strong level of musicianship and a high degree of structure. Pysch music seems to have the musicianship but is much more free form. Punk requires no structure and not much musicianship. Maybe you like the more free form nature of Pysch.
 

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I can understand, thought many of the artist i listed are sort of in between metal and the psych rock you are mentioning. Most are sort of a heavy blues. Those are all bands that have been labeled with the proto metal name.

If you search on the artists i mentioned in youtube you will probably find several suggestions for bands that you may like. Captain beyond, Vanilla Fudge, Atomic Rooster were all bands i decided were too psych sounding to be metal. All were listed as suggestions for the bands I do like.

I typically think of metal and prog as being requiring a strong level of musicianship and a high degree of structure. Pysch music seems to have the musicianship but is much more free form. Punk requires no structure and not much musicianship. Maybe you like the more free form nature of Pysch.


I definitely prefer the free form. But I think saying that Metal requires a "strong level of musicianship" and a "high degree of structure" is a discredit to Punk, like you mention.

I'm not into punk, at all. But a friend of my is very fond of it and the things he point out in it, I can definitely see that they *do* have a strong level of musicianship and the structure is just as high as any other kind of rock. I just sounds like a barfight, rather than music.. If you're not used to it.
I'd say the same goes for Psychedelic and/or noise. I mean obviously a lot of what I linked (Rallizes) is free form. But Mizutani (Lead) is very much in control.

Take these two songs, which I actually just uploaded myself because I couldn't find those particular versions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8FiyHyptCw&context=C4435320ADvjVQa1PpcFNX19q7EceZBIcttWwKogat_Yr_69hdqDE=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3XACBb396w&context=C4adcee7ADvjVQa1PpcFNX19q7EceZBAnTABKBk2tzYxMlLzhDTLA=

These are very much noise, rather than psychedelic, compared to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cXuSyGrLrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HsZwPqMe6I

(Same song, I know. But two very different versions)


And I'll check out those three names you mentioned, Captain Beyond etc. Haven't heard of any of them. :confused:

EDIT: Apologize if anyone is not a fan of video spamming (just realised that 4 embeds sort of fills up the page rather fast, haha) But this is the music sub-forum, no? Hehe.
 

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You may also give Captain Beefheart a listen. When you say psych i really think of The Jefferson airplane, Country Joe and the Fish,
Jefferson Ariplane is just psychedelic music. Psychedelic rock, is well, psychedelic rock.
I might get around to checking out the other bands you mention.


I know who Cream are, lol! :rolleyes:

EDIT: And actually that particular song is one of my favourites. And Strange Brew!
 

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Sorry i just don't think of Cream psych, more blues.

I have spent my life going hmm almost but not quit to psychedelic music, in favor of progressive rock, so I am just trying to remember the things I almost liked.
 

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Sorry i just don't think of Cream psych, more blues.

I have spent my life going hmm almost but not quit to psychedelic music, in favor of progressive rock, so I am just trying to remember the things I almost liked.

I'd definitely say that Cream is Blues-Rock as well. Maybe with some psychedelic sprinkled on top!
 

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Yeah I know. Some of their members played in the former band Kyuss and kind of invented the new Stoner Rock genre. That's why many people think Queens of the Stone Age do Stoner Rock, but at least they got a few songs like this one:

I see, fair enough I guess. But I would say QOTSA sound like Stoner Rock (at least one compared to the music you linked me before)
 

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Ok this one is what i think of when you say psych lobstrich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT6RXJ3gh7Y&feature=related
Ah, right - I'd agree that it's psychedelic. But I thinks it's sort of "active" psychedelic. It's not very "spacey" (which is what I always think when I think psychedelic). Like one of the "Enter The Mirror" songs, which I linked. Try listening to them.

As opposed to some nice progressive rock which i like

I see, but that sound seems like a very specific sound. And to me "Progressive" is what it calls itself, progressive. I'm not saying that the song you just linked isn't progressive. But that progressive can also sound different from what you linked. As long as it is "progressive" if it's trying to do something new.
 

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I got all caught up listening to a bunch of music on Youtube by that Les Rallizes Denudes band last night for hours.

They are indeed quite awesome.
 

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The two that struck me as awesome enough for me to get carried away and post on my facebook wall, so as to weird everyone out even more I suppose, were titled 'Fallin Love With' and 'An awful Eternity'.

I'll be listening to more for sure, and finding more stuff if I look deeper.
 

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The two that struck me as awesome enough for me to get carried away and post on my facebook wall, so as to weird everyone out even more I suppose, were titled 'Fallin Love With' and 'An awful Eternity'.

I'll be listening to more for sure, and finding more stuff if I look deeper.

So you prefer their softer music. Fallin' Love With reminds me a lot of their 1980 Mars Studio version of Enter the Mirror.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HsZwPqMe6I
Man.. You know, when you listen to some music over and over you get tired of it. But every time I start up a song of theirs which I've listened to countless of times already. I get amazed again. And I can't listen to anything but this. Nothing is as good. Can't even explain it. Especially "Enter The Mirror" - I love their noise songs. But there's just something about this exact song. I linked two videos earlier in the thread. This, 1980 version and then the "Flightless Bird" version. Blows me away.

Shouldn't be posting it on Facebook! Took me guts to even post this band on Facebook. I don't want this band to cursed by the mainstream! (yes, I'm that shallow)
 

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I am just referring to the genre, whatever it calls itself. Prog or Progressive rock. Yes, Rush, Pink Floyd, Camel, Star Castle, Asia, Gentle Giant, Saga, Eloy, Faust, Can, that's the stuff for me.
 

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I really like Les Rallizes Denudes, thanks Lobstrich.

You might like Spacemen 3, Spiritualized and Spectrum, unless you've already heard of them of course.

Spacemen 3, it's quite repetitive but in a hypnotizing sort of way. The song is aptly called....Hypnotized :slashnew:

 

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I also want to recommend Eisturzende Neubauten. I don't think I would really call them psychedelic, but they're worth checking out for their weirder side. Maybe you can check out some stuff by Grinderman too.

I guess the Dead weather seem to fit in a bit as well.


Sorry for the lack of links. I'm about to go to sleep and I can't be bothered to open up another tab.
 

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I really like Les Rallizes Denudes, thanks Lobstrich.

You might like Spacemen 3, Spiritualized and Spectrum, unless you've already heard of them of course.

Spacemen 3, it's quite repetitive but in a hypnotizing sort of way. The song is aptly called....Hypnotized :slashnew:


Ah, cool. Which songs of theirs did you listen to and prefer? =o

Oh yes, I like Spacemen 3! I've heard of Spiritualized, they came as the result of the Spacemen 3 breakup, or something like that?

I'll check out the link when I get home.
 

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Ah, cool. Which songs of theirs did you listen to and prefer? =o

Oh yes, I like Spacemen 3! I've heard of Spiritualized, they came as the result of the Spacemen 3 breakup, or something like that?

I'll check out the link when I get home.

I listened to a whole bunch of their stuff, and this kind of drew me in, oddly enough:
And I like some of their quieter stuff too, White Waking sounds like a Japanese version of Velvet Underground with Nico...and I really like Enter the Mirror.

Yes, Spacemen 3 broke into Spiritualized and Spectrum. The Spiritualized gigs are some of the most amazing I have ever been to, if you get the chance, go and see them.

Not sure if you are familiar with Brian Jonestown Massacre:
Anton Newcombe is simply a musical genius, it's worth checking out the BJM collection of rare and older stuff: Tepid Peppermint Wonderland.

I've recently discovered this Australian band, The Drones:
It's noisy and slightly psychedelic.......:D
 
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