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PPs. Often without mention, they're frequently disliked due to the perception that they're domineering, fluff-mongering attention seekers; with their >3 average posts per day and their suspect hollow reputations.

The forum has a long history of removing PPs or controlling their prolificness only to have another fill the vacant void they left behind, often... within days. :phear:

Do we actually need PPs? Do we need... something to persecute? Do they need us? What would happen if the niche remained occupied by the same PP? How many can we hold? To what degree should their populations be culled?
 

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it's alright if they are easy going. too much text gives me creepster vibez

3 posts a day??? threeposterous!!!
 

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Sure, they're the occasional fireworks that prevent INTP Forum from turning into INTP Central.

EDIT: Aw shit, just saw that I post 3.48 per day.
 

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Posts Per Day: 2.69

I'm shocked that I'm not quite the attention whore I thought I was.
 

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I feel like if I post someone (mods) are going to look at my posts per day

:buttholetightens:
 

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Reported for prolificness.

Didn't know that was a word, but I prefer "fruitfulness"

prolificness

(prəʊˈlɪfɪknɪs)

[f. as prec. + -ness.]

The quality of being prolific; prolificity, prolificacy. a. Capacity of bearing offspring or fruit. b. Great or abundant fruitfulness or productiveness.

***1698 R. Burthogge Soul of World (1699) 39 As to the Prolifickness of Matter, I should think but few will allow thereof. ***1798 Malthus Popul. ii. ix. (1806) II. 6 It is probable that the natural prolifickness of women is nearly the same in most parts of the world. ***1853 Jrnl. R. Agric. Soc. XIV. ii. 286 The black Tartarian [oat]‥stands high for prolificness. ***1884 Manch. Exam. 6 May 5/5 The salmon rivers of England and Wales‥showed remarkable prolificness last year. ***1887 A. J. Balfour in Pall Mall G. 17 June 11/1 The newspaper reporters have shown even more than their usual prolificness of resource and fertility of imagination.
 

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woah I got mutha fucken 3.17 posts a day :O

However I don't want attention, I want full body contact and constant reassuring.
 

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I remember having from 6 to 13 or... more... It's dropped to a respectable 1.8 now. (I merely work from the shadows now :evil:)
 

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I feel like if I post someone (mods) are going to look at my posts per day

:buttholetightens:
11.12 :D

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Oh I'm sure Archie is very prolific ;) cmon you have enough money for more than one intp kid

Time ... there's never enough time (and energy)
 

Solitaire U.

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1.35, but the majority of those are in 'what are you listening to redux'.

The 'new guy prolific poster' syndrome, ex: TimeAsylums racking up 11.21 ppd in the two months s/he's been here seems pretty normal; like a fresh-faced crack addict indulging his new favorite high to the point of abuse.

But I'm actually a little suspicious of long term prolifics like Architect and Duxwing. How do they sustain such high levels of activity?

@Architect For the most part, your posts are not wall-of-text overly wordy (occasional exceptions, namely your MBTI-themed posts), and they are nearly always well-planned and grammatically proficient. It's plain to see that you are a high-caliber MBTI enthusiast. Your mind is probably on MBTI as much as mine is on 'building the perfect hot rod', and it's reflected in your posts. I'll estimate you devote a minimum of three hours a day to posting on this site. Your posts are too articulate, too carefully edited, too well-researched, to require anything less.

So, in addition to the wife, the kid, the job, the house, and the investment sideline, how do you squeeze those three(+) hours a day in? How do you justify those three(+) hours a day? Are you retired? Do you work from home? Are you getting paid to post (ie: posting from work)?

@Duxwing Your activity seems to have dropped off somewhat lately, but you're still at 9.42 ppd. Your posts are nearly always long, multi-quoted, and grammatically proficient. Sometimes the quality of your information suggests that you might have cut corners on the research and hard-evidence gathering fronts, in favor of expressing issues as you opine them, but nevertheless (the majority of) your posts strongly suggest a major devotion of time and effort on your part. You don't merely post, you post...in the manner of a surgeon, carefully dissecting, compartmentalizing, and responding in a highly organized, finite manner. Your style of communication here is probably the most time/effort intensive I've seen.

So, I realize that you, unlike Architect, have more time to devote to this forum, (no wife, no kid, no job(?), no house) so you're slightly less suspicious than he is. But I'm also pretty sure that you devote far more hours to posting here than he does. I'll estimate upwards of five hours a day, with occasional spikes up to eight or more hours. If that's how you want to spend your time, I personally have no problem with it, philosophically speaking.

But my 'philosophy' isn't exactly garden variety. In fact, the prevailing 'judgment' of your devotion to this forum is borderline ++ obsessive. How do you justify to yourself the hours you spend here? How do you explain to your mother, friends, answerable life-interests the hours you spend alone in the ether of this virtual existence?

Just picking out, but not picking on, the two guys I notice most here. I think there's a big difference between prolific garbage posting and fanatical devotion posting. I'd say the forum is better off without the former, and all the healthier for the latter (though I advocate no bans, damnit!!).

Myself, I believe I'm a personality hybrid. I think I'm more S than iN oriented, but I get bored really fast on ISTP sites. I hate extreme sports, think it's idiotic to squander my valuable energy reserves lifting anything that absolutely, positively doesn't need to be lifted, and am far more content to just dream about 'building the perfect hot rod' than actually get my hands dirty doing it (though I have the requisite skill, tools and experience to do so...perhaps if I had more time and money I'd be more motivated).

But I don't really fit ideally here either, like some others. I'm merely more comfortable among INTP's than ISTP's, even though I'm probably more inclined towards the latter. I'd likely be far more prolific if I was a pure-bred, blue-blooded INTP. Sometimes, I just wish there was a little more concrete holding this forum together.

(56 minutes to post this, I'm over my quota.)

SU
 

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The 'new guy prolific poster' syndrome, ex: TimeAsylums racking up 11.21 ppd in the two months s/he's been here seems pretty normal; like a fresh-faced crack addict indulging his new favorite high to the point of abuse

Teehee.:elephant:
Compare my first whole month of posts to these past two weeks. Ne massive learning curve through interaction: almost evolution like. However yes, I'm glad (surprised, and thankful@) the mods were...rather lenient with me.

:unclenched butthole:

:smoker:

Time ... there's never enough time (and energy)

...I see what you did thar...unintentional or not (insert fry futurama suspicious meme)
 

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Compare my first whole month of posts to these past two weeks. Ne massive learning curve through interaction: almost evolution like. However yes, I'm glad (surprised, and thankful@) the mods were...rather lenient with me.


What?

Are you trying to incite people to re-read your posts?

why....?

So they can pay close attention to your personal forum development?

"Ne massive learning curve" = no perceivable change in behaviour whatsoever



I can lay off srsly I can. You just let me know when you're tired of hearing my invalid arguments.
 

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Remove prolific posters from a forum and you'll find nothing but stagnation. Whether these posters are genuine or not, they provide topics which others feed on and sustain activity.

It wasn't long ago that people were complaining that the forum was dying.

I guess the population of prolific posters could be reduced when their input to the flow of a forum is counterproductive to progressive thread activity.
 

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@Architect For the most part, your posts are not wall-of-text overly wordy (occasional exceptions, namely your MBTI-themed posts), and they are nearly always well-planned and grammatically proficient. It's plain to see that you are a high-caliber MBTI enthusiast. Your mind is probably on MBTI as much as mine is on 'building the perfect hot rod', and it's reflected in your posts. I'll estimate you devote a minimum of three hours a day to posting on this site. Your posts are too articulate, too carefully edited, too well-researched, to require anything less.

So, in addition to the wife, the kid, the job, the house, and the investment sideline, how do you squeeze those three(+) hours a day in? How do you justify those three(+) hours a day? Are you retired? Do you work from home? Are you getting paid to post (ie: posting from work)?

None of the above. I have a full time job plus am spinning up a post corporate self employment company, plus music, photography, investing hobbies and running a household as you mention. Three hours though? Not that much. Maybe one most of the time.

Here's the secret: I don't have to think about what I write. I'm a very fast typist (and use a 99% accuracy voice recognition system). When I write these posts my mind is actually wandering. What you folks are getting is the "inner mind" of Archie. I'm just recording something I've already figured out and filed.

Which as I've said is pretty much how I program. I figure the solution out in it's near entirety, then it bursts out onto the computer. Mozart reputably worked that way too, but I'm not comparing myself to him. He was an SP artisan at any rate.

It still takes time though (but I usually post during odd snippets of time, like at breakfast) so my justification is that it's been useful to me, and for teaching me how to guide my young INTP. You'll notice I don't do a lot of socializing here, I'm mostly exploring and deepening my understanding of MBTI. That will taper off sometime, probably in the not too distant future.
 

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How many of you lurk here at INTP Forum? How much time do you spend lurking and have no additional information or desire to post?
 

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1.35, but the majority of those are in 'what are you listening to redux'.

The 'new guy prolific poster' syndrome, ex: TimeAsylums racking up 11.21 ppd in the two months s/he's been here seems pretty normal; like a fresh-faced crack addict indulging his new favorite high to the point of abuse.

But I'm actually a little suspicious of long term prolifics like Architect and Duxwing. How do they sustain such high levels of activity?

@Architect For the most part, your posts are not wall-of-text overly wordy (occasional exceptions, namely your MBTI-themed posts), and they are nearly always well-planned and grammatically proficient. It's plain to see that you are a high-caliber MBTI enthusiast. Your mind is probably on MBTI as much as mine is on 'building the perfect hot rod', and it's reflected in your posts. I'll estimate you devote a minimum of three hours a day to posting on this site. Your posts are too articulate, too carefully edited, too well-researched, to require anything less.

So, in addition to the wife, the kid, the job, the house, and the investment sideline, how do you squeeze those three(+) hours a day in? How do you justify those three(+) hours a day? Are you retired? Do you work from home? Are you getting paid to post (ie: posting from work)?

@Duxwing Your activity seems to have dropped off somewhat lately, but you're still at 9.42 ppd. Your posts are nearly always long, multi-quoted, and grammatically proficient. Sometimes the quality of your information suggests that you might have cut corners on the research and hard-evidence gathering fronts, in favor of expressing issues as you opine them, but nevertheless (the majority of) your posts strongly suggest a major devotion of time and effort on your part. You don't merely post, you post...in the manner of a surgeon, carefully dissecting, compartmentalizing, and responding in a highly organized, finite manner. Your style of communication here is probably the most time/effort intensive I've seen.

So, I realize that you, unlike Architect, have more time to devote to this forum, (no wife, no kid, no job(?), no house) so you're slightly less suspicious than he is. But I'm also pretty sure that you devote far more hours to posting here than he does. I'll estimate upwards of five hours a day, with occasional spikes up to eight or more hours. If that's how you want to spend your time, I personally have no problem with it, philosophically speaking.

But my 'philosophy' isn't exactly garden variety. In fact, the prevailing 'judgment' of your devotion to this forum is borderline ++ obsessive. How do you justify to yourself the hours you spend here? How do you explain to your mother, friends, answerable life-interests the hours you spend alone in the ether of this virtual existence?

Just picking out, but not picking on, the two guys I notice most here. I think there's a big difference between prolific garbage posting and fanatical devotion posting. I'd say the forum is better off without the former, and all the healthier for the latter (though I advocate no bans, damnit!!).

Myself, I believe I'm a personality hybrid. I think I'm more S than iN oriented, but I get bored really fast on ISTP sites. I hate extreme sports, think it's idiotic to squander my valuable energy reserves lifting anything that absolutely, positively doesn't need to be lifted, and am far more content to just dream about 'building the perfect hot rod' than actually get my hands dirty doing it (though I have the requisite skill, tools and experience to do so...perhaps if I had more time and money I'd be more motivated).

But I don't really fit ideally here either, like some others. I'm merely more comfortable among INTP's than ISTP's, even though I'm probably more inclined towards the latter. I'd likely be far more prolific if I was a pure-bred, blue-blooded INTP. Sometimes, I just wish there was a little more concrete holding this forum together.

(56 minutes to post this, I'm over my quota.)

SU

Thanks Solitaire. You're right; I spend a huge amount of time on this forum. My greatest reason for so doing is social boredom: my classmates--even the ENTP, ENTJ, and INTJ--rarely appreciate debates or abstract discussions and prefer small talk and jokes. When I was younger, imagination and play bridged the gap, but now that all my peers do is talk, talk, talk instead of breaking out the NERF guns and having at it or constructing something beautiful from LEGO, interacting with them greatly, intensely, painfully bores me.

Do I sound like an arrogant little kid who should be quiet and know better than to mouth off like this? Yes. I also, however, have my forum mates, parents, and multivariate intelligence tests to back up that I am not inventing these feelings as an excuse to stay here and not do my homework, for example. In school, I'm alone save for my Ti-heavy ISTP friends, whose plentiful thoughts and unthreatening demeanors have given me much conversation. Yeah, yeah, I'm whining and should be happy with what I have--argh, I've got two voices in my head right now. >_<

But the thing is that the people that I find in school simply fail to stimulate me. My schoolwork, too, is often intellectually boring yet by some sleight of hand made difficult by virtue of necessary memorization or hours' practice. Math is my most hated class: it is simply Si and Te, in that order. Get the formula. Memorize the formula. Do fifty problems of the formula until the intuitive understanding that should have been established in the lecture is drilled in. Take quiz on formula. Repeat. It's MATH! It's not that HARD: rearrange the variables for any given case and let the calculator handle the rest. To make new math, find patterns and describe them. Alas, whenever I do the latter (obviously, I've not invented any math) my teachers either don't understand or tell me to do my homework first.

*sigh* I feel stifled.

But I should be doing my homework and my schoolwork and everything else. It just doesn't have the same vitality as it did when I was younger; school is turning into a ten hour a day, five day a week set of chores that need to be maintained lest my future be jeopardized. But--argh. *blinks, rolls head* Sorry, I just can't continue.

But when I come here, I find all sorts of smart, interesting people who love discourse! Architect, Jennywocky, ProxyAmenRa, Cognisant, SpaceYeti, Scorned Reflex, The Introvert--too many to name. I've even found a girlfriend--nightstreaking, yes from The Valentine's Day Matchmaking Thread--who likes me for being smart and interested in abstract discussions and would join me in them if she felt more sure of herself. Where else can I find such people? Not at school, that's for sure. :(

And even if I did, then I would be in an entirely different situation: real life conversation, which, while fun, can slowly drain me from the inside out and requires skills that I am weak in. At INTPf, conversely, I have plenty of time to ponder and edit my answer and can use my strongest talents to greatest effect. I also get to use language to create beauty, e.g.,

Perhaps the 'Net had got enraged.
A desperate fight against the trolls we waged:
Sparks fried the server though the plugs had shot away,
And even Ricky D began to pray.

But the admin, master old,
He'd fought DDoS attacks for years untold!
Crash and Freeze, admin! Chasing us about,
He'd rather die than let the trolls win out!

Where else? This place is like a home and haven to me, complete with beloved friends and wise elders. The world's big and scary. Here I feel safe. And I sound like a sick puppy who needs a dose of boot in butt. *sigh*

*puts on flame-retardant suit and curls up* Mmmmph, mm-mmmmph, mmmph.

-Duxwing
 

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How many of you lurk here at INTP Forum? How much time do you spend lurking and have no additional information or desire to post?

I think I'm more in lurk mode nowadays. I read far more threads that I post in. Mostly it's due to time constraints, where I take the topic seriously enough to not want to post shorthand but also don't think I have time to get into a prolonged and potentially long-term discussion.

This forum's got some decent posters anyway, and usually the points I'd have made are brought up by someone else.

The forum's definitely got its "pure" lurkers who probably won't break radio silence to expose their lurking.
 

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I take the view that prolific posters are like the people who babble in converstation. They generally just say whatever pops into their heads and then move on with narry a glance back. Often these sort fizzle out after a few months and move on with their lives because they either get ignored or discover that they have exhausted the threads they were interested in. Sometimes, with a little encouragement, they provide humorous one liners and eventually become adorably cheeky long term members. (Ex. Gopher :D)

The problem comes in when/if most of their comments are like the following sort:

LOLOLOL

I has a stupid!!!

Kthnxby!!!
 

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What?

Are you trying to incite people to re-read your posts?

why....?

So they can pay close attention to your personal forum development?

"Ne massive learning curve" = no perceivable change in behaviour whatsoever



I can lay off srsly I can. You just let me know when you're tired of hearing my invalid arguments.

Jeeez >_< did I demand people to read my posts? I suggested it..


Personal grudge, much Monstressor?

Time Asylums has pissed me off on a personal level but I'll leave it alone here because I KNOW nobody wants to read that shit on this forum. So, sorry to everybody but him.

Me thinks personal grudge indeed.
 

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The problem comes in when/if most of their comments are like the following sort:

LOLOLOL

I has a stupid!!!

Kthnxby!!!

You speak the language like a true master. :D :phear:
 

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Personal grudge, much Monstressor?

Me thinks personal grudge indeed.


I guess so. You have proven the unprovable.

No mention as to why I said that, only that I said it.

Quoting out of context actually ... was the reason why I posted that. lol
 

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Do we actually need PPs? Do we need... something to persecute? Do they need us?

Sometimes I think so too, THD.
Often. Often I think so too.

I'm shocked that I'm not quite the attention whore I thought I was.

I think you meant to say you're not the attention whore you used to be.

I think I'm more in lurk mode nowadays. I read far more threads that I post in. Mostly it's due to time constraints, where I take the topic seriously enough to not want to post shorthand but also don't think I have time to get into a prolonged and potentially long-term discussion.

In eons past, we used to have an unofficial motto that went something like: "lurk moar".
 

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I think I'm averaging ~4 ppd, mostly because I tend to multiquote. :o
Sure, they're the occasional fireworks that prevent INTP Forum from turning into INTP Central.
Indeed.
I'm shocked that I'm not quite the attention whore I thought I was.
Damn. Me too. :p

Maybe you need an opponent to fulfill some sort of psychological desire... one without edges...
The 'new guy prolific poster' syndrome, ex: TimeAsylums racking up 11.21 ppd in the two months s/he's been here seems pretty normal; like a fresh-faced crack addict indulging his new favorite high to the point of abuse.
Is it just me, or do nearly all of these guys/girls come across as N-dom?
Remove prolific posters from a forum and you'll find nothing but stagnation.It wasn't long ago that people were complaining that the forum was dying.

I guess the population of prolific posters could be reduced when their input to the flow of a forum is counterproductive to progressive thread activity.
PPs were present then too. Several, in fact, who arguably contributed to being counterproductive.

More evidence that a forum "made" for introverts is dependent on extraverts? :phear:
How many of you lurk here at INTP Forum? How much time do you spend lurking and have no additional information or desire to post?
A good question that I believe is very important. But I also believe that answers will be few and far between because well... we're asking lurkers. :D
This forum's got some decent posters anyway, and usually the points I'd have made are brought up by someone else.

The forum's definitely got its "pure" lurkers who probably won't break radio silence to expose their lurking.
Might that be part of the system? PPs "speak for the lurkers"? (In addition to posting fluff). Much like The Lorax speaks for the trees?
Sometimes, with a little encouragement, they provide humorous one liners and eventually become adorably cheeky long term members. (Ex. Gopher :D)
But why/how? (<-whow :D). Gopher, what shut you up? :D
 

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I think you meant to say you're not the attention whore you used to be.
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He is not the attention whore the forum needs he's the one it deserves.

. Sometimes, with a little encouragement, they provide humorous one liners and eventually become adorably cheeky long term members. (Ex. Gopher :D)

;) Wait... is that ex or example?

But why/how? (<-whow :D). Gopher, what shut you up? :D

Boredom mainly, the forum is not what it used to be *rants and lamentations for a past which was surprisingly similar to the present with rose colored glasses*

(no it wasn't that)

But it was the skype chat that claimed my soul. Two years ago I found my family! My friends! *goes on an emotional rant about uhh stuff for a while* and that with a tear in my eye... *sniff* is what happened and now a word from our sponsors!

Pre-order the exclusive Gopher comedy pass by signing up to the skype chat now! Only $49.9 in 3 easy payments, inquire within.
 

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How many of you lurk here at INTP Forum? How much time do you spend lurking and have no additional information or desire to post?

My ratio of topics read vs topics posted in is probably something like 1000 : 1.

Sometimes I won't come here for weeks, sometimes I will spend hours a day reading posts. It's very rare that I feel like I have something worth adding. Not that I feel I add anything when I do post, it's more that I just happen to be in the right mood to do so.

It also takes too much energy to post, and there is not much to gain by posting. I could read another ten threads instead of posting in one.
Usually I'm just misunderstood anyway.

I think I lurked here for a year or two before I signed up.
 

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1.69, a lot of retarded posts though.

I try to keep it at 1.

I don't have much wise words.
 

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1.69, a lot of retarded posts though.

I try to keep it at 1.

I don't have much wise words.

you're one of my favorite members here though.

i enjoy every one of you with cars for avatars, i noticed.
 

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@TheHabitatDoctor. You said, "prolific" posters. I'm sure you meant "terrific" posters.:D I just checked and saw I have 5.16 ppd. That's above average I believe ... duh. Not sure but I don't think I even posted yesterday.

The reason (or one reason) I post so many is because I have a great many interests and even like to broaden them. I like theory, "getting it right", and checking things out. So when someone posts one of the many things of interest, I like to inquire, clarify or elaborate or just show some other possibility. I consider that fun and hope it isn't too dull for you. Often I find myself in conversation. Just as in irl that sends the mouthing up high.

Can a poster be too prolific? I suppose that depends on the content and what is said. One can skip them, but what if they are "in the way"? That could happen if such posting prevents others from posting. That is undesirable. I'd say, let them know. I've seen it done. People will listen and they may change their quantity or what they say.

I would also look into how a poster affects you without telling them. This may give you an opportunity to look at yourself. I've held back exactly when I could have said something. I let some days pass and lo and behold, my attitude changed. That is a difficult topic though.
 

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Is there a way to point fingers at people without making them (PPs) upset? If it's a problem that is. I don't think completely understand the situation but I would like to.

Not to long ago, I was attempting to dominate. :D

As usual I have some questions:
How do I/we know if something is fluff?
When you say "post" do you mean threads, post, or both?
What factors do you think take play in the creation of unwanted these post?
Can you eliminate some of these factors?
Like buttons again may be a good idea if not abused and if possible enough dislikes and DELETE!!!
 
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Is there a way to point fingers at people without making them (PPs) upset?

I'm not really trying to point fingers, mainly just curious and prodding. (Though I admittedly find it amusing that some willingly take on the burden of guilt. "I post more than 3x a day! zomg!!!111" :D)

Not to long ago, I was attempting to dominate. :D
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As usual I have some questions:
How do I/we know if something is fluff?

http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=379077&postcount=21

^This, or... you know, that inevitable someone who posts the 20th copy of the same thread without searching to see if it already exists. Good examples, I think.

When you say "post" do you mean threads, post, or both?

Generally posts, but both.

What factors do you think take play in the creation of unwanted these post?

Probably boredom and noobishness/excitement. Occasionally trolling.


Can you eliminate some of these factors?

I'd say no, but perhaps they can be directed to alternate channels of expression. Within the forum we have PMs, VMs, and the chatbox, plus the Skype channel Gopher mentioned. I assume some of us are part of Facebook groups as well.

Like buttons again may be a good idea if not abused and if possible enough dislikes and DELETE!!!
Well, we don't like censorship, as it opens a vulnerability to tyranny of the majority. The "like" idea has been brought up before, and swiftly beaten to death because it's likely to lead to cults of favoritism and ego stroking. The most recent necro of the idea: http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=13846
 
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