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NothingTodo

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I have this teacher and she is so annoying and so stupid i honestly do not think she is worth my respect. I feel like yelling at her every time i see her.:evil: Im about to go on strike from doing work in her class so I'm transfered out. She is the only teacher that ever made me hate science class. Is this some intp thing? How do i deal with someone like this
 

Geminii

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I've had that a lot. You can't really do much in school because the deck's stacked so heavily against you. Unless the teacher is actively harming the education of multiple students (and you can prove that with hard evidence from multiple sources collected over several months), you've got pretty much zero chance of coming out on top. I'd say wait it out until the end of the year if it wasn't so far away.

If it's just you having this problem with her, it's probably not her. Still, there's no reason you can't discuss the problem with parents and/or the school administration. You'll get further, however, if you have genuine examples of the teacher giving false information (and you can prove this with references from other sources). Just because a teacher is personally irritating doesn't mean you'll get a transfer.

I've had at least one teacher myself who would pick up little kids and slam them up against the wall, and spend her time screaming so loudly she could be heard several classrooms away. I walked off the school grounds a number of times rather than be in her classroom. Didn't get me anywhere, though - she still kept teaching until she finally had some kind of mental collapse and got the boot. Of course, at that stage I didn't realise that I could probably have sent a log of her behaviour to the state education department and at least gotten her investigated, but hindsight is 20/20.

Still, see what options are open for addressing your issue. See what alternatives the school offers. If the class is being taught at a level too low for you, see if you can take the exams right away and get a free pass. Or if the school is a large one, perhaps there's another science teacher teaching that class level. Or maybe you could just talk to the annoying teacher and say "Please stop doing X Y Z, it makes it very hard to concentrate in your class." They might not even realise they're doing it.
 

Anthile

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Not sure how things in other countries work, but I can tell that rebelling against teachers never works out. As long as they don't do something really bad and it doesn't go beyond dislike, there is nothing you can do. Not trying to sound like a douche but coping with people you dislike is an important life lesson.


Also, everything what Geminii said about talking with your teacher.
 

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I usually just go along with teachers and their rules. Never a rebel for the sake of my own social safety. I'm really wondering if that really is an INTP "THING".
 

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There are a lot of annoying people and you can't always dodge them, now or later. "Learn" from the experience in ways other than the course content: Learn techniques for control. Self control. You can't control how others act or feel; you can only control your response to them. Understand that and you'll start thinking about ways to divert your annoyance.

Just because I'm a curious person: Would you mind sharing what's so annoying? :)
 

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Teachers in my schools here teach from textbooks. This is one of the richest areas in Australia though so the teachers are probably better than anywhere else. You don't really have to rebel, if you know what is right or wrong already then you don't really need more education. If you cared about the subject you would probably be researching it at home and reading books on it to really expand your knowledge.
 

intuitivet

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Ah yes, I was very close to doing that with my history teacher. He could not teach, everyone did badly (even when they read the text book). He refused to explain anything and expected us all to know what he was talking about all the time.
I handled it by confronting him ALOT. Going to him at the end of class each lesson and asking him alot of questions and asking him to explain to the class next lesson. I think I eventually wore him down and he started explaining a few things (but he was a stubborn man and wouldn't go with it completely).
I think another good thing to do is threaten to drop the course (if you can), saying you aren't learning anything. Might make them think.
 

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Teacher that are annoying I generally tend to ignore. That`s not a good advice, but it`s been working for 14 years.

I think an important questions is what you find annoying in the teacher? Is it the behavior? The teaching method? The lack of it?

If it's the last two maybe you should do as other suggested: find a different way of preparing your self. I have a teacher that can`t explain even to save his own life. There is no other teacher. In the end I just stopped visiting classes. It's bad, because the subject is hard for me, but it's a waste of time listening to the teacher.

If you have a problem with the way your teacher act you can either make a scene or suffer through it. In my home country you can do anything in class and eventually the teacher would get it. They wouldn`t fail you, because the want to get rid of you. :D

As far as following someone, I red in an INTP profile that we have a hard time doing it. If the person doesn`t earn our respect we start rebelling. And respect isn`t automatically earned by status, fame or power. It has to proved and deserved. That might be hard considering we value logic and knowledge.
 

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I felt the same way, there were only a couple whom I thought deserved my respect.
I would even go like "Fuck you" To one of my teachers. Because he kept accusing me of everything, treating me like dirt. (I were a troublemaker, but sometimes I did really try to be nice, help out and listen.) If he said "stop" I couldn't care less.

But there was this other teacher whom I respected ALOT. He was so honest as a person, So frank. He didn't say shut up to people who were already shutting up.
He didn't tell people who were doing their work, to do their work etc.
And if I were in the middle of robbing a bank, and he said stop. I'd stop.
I liked him alot, respected him. And I wanted him to respect and like me as well.
 

citrusbreath95

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Response to OP, I do in my mind, I am pretty, (not sure if this is the right word) passive to rules and people, I usually do what they ask if it doesn't interfere with my personal life, or my principles. Though I hate doing things because I feel I only have to do them because some higher authority told me so, I hate it when parents say you have to do something because they told you to without any explanation whatsoever. I am fine with most of my teachers, and I favor a few, I only have one that I'm not too fond of, not because he has too many rules or is demanding, but he just creeps me out for some reason. I think it's because he questions everything you do. Seriously! anything you say or do he'll question why, and gets all into your personal business (well attempts to anyway)... People that really aggitate me are the phony ones... sometimes people can be so fake it sickens me... it seems that their behaviour is so obvious that even an idiot with the IQ of a piece of fruit could catch it, but it never seems anyone does... so I dont have too much of a problem with authority, unless they go against my principles or are fake
 

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This is not an INTP thing. It is a school thing. Everyone has teachers they hate at some point. Harry Potter had Snape, I had Mr. B------, you have this loser.

Your goal is to get out of the class, right? I would add the sub-goal of not harming your academic record or making any enemies along the way. Eventually the school year will end, so it is a finite problem.

I have dealt with horrible teachers in a few ways:

1. I did every assignment perfectly and got in Mr. B------'s face when he criticized the least thing. This was exhausting and he enjoyed it more than I did.
2. I suggested to the Mr. R------ that we go together to the office to discuss it with the principal (in that case he was endangering students so he backed down very quickly). He never crossed me again.
3. I sucked up to Mr. T--------- in a sickeningly flattering way, and let him think I thought he was the greatest thing since the invention of fire. The challenge of this bit of acting kept me occupied until the year ended, and he liked me a lot. This tactic was a success, but a lot of work.
4. I went to Prof. E-------- and said it was clear he wasn't satisfied with my work, and would he help me understand what he expected. I wrote it all down as he talked, and went to him before class to discuss my preparation. In no time, I was enjoying the class, and he ended up being my favorite Physics prof and earning my deep respect.
5. I went to Prof. C------- and told him that if he couldn't provide a list of goals for the class, then I didn't think he knew what he was doing as a teacher. I was invited to leave permanently. Fortunately, I was still able to graduate on time.

I used different methods because the teachers were different people. One solution won't work on everyone.

If the teacher is doing something genuinely abusive, such as humiliating students in front of their peers, making inappropriate comments about their appearance, or threatening them with bad grades for trivial things, then you should tell your parents and the school officials. Your parents can demand that you not continue to attend his class, but in that case it had better be a firing offense.

If the teacher is merely annoying, do what the teacher wants, get a good grade, and move on. I'm sorry there is no real solution to this problem.
 

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No solution, true, but in the fullness of time Nothing To Do may get to piss on the teacher's headstone. That thought kept my head down and mouth shut more than once.....
 

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No solution, true, but in the fullness of time Nothing To Do may get to piss on the teacher's headstone. That thought kept my head down and mouth shut more than once.....
So full of perspective! :)
 
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