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Recently I've been enjoying the wonders of poppy seed tea. I find this to be a great way to experience the opiate high for those who either don't know where to get pharm opiates, don't want to get involved in the shady business of buying pharms on the black market and/or couldn't afford pharm opiates. It's pretty simple, and cheap, less than $10.

Although being under the influence of opiates not prescribed to you is illegal in many jurisdictions, the items needed to make the tea are all perfectly legal. First, you'll need a half pound to a pound of poppy seeds. Half pound for beginners, pound for someone with an opiate tolerance. The best place is Smart N Final. They have a pound of poppy seeds in the spice section for $3.99. That's the best price offline that I've seen. Healthfood stores may sell pounds/half pounds but they're usually more expensive. Mom n pop grocery stores may have them by the pound as well. Next thing you need is preferably a plastic 2 liter empty bottle, and then either sprite or water. I recommend sprite.

Funnel the seeds into the 2 liter container and pour enough sprite or water to cover the seeds. Cap it and shake for ten minutes. Then flip it upside-down over a suitable sized drinking cup and screw the cap open just enough to squeeze out the liquid without letting seeds get into it. Repeat this step for more goodness. I use sprite because with water it tastes absolutely horrid, I couldn't drink it without gagging. Also, the citric acid in sprite helps with the absorption of more opiates (mostly morphine but also codeine and thibane). The sprite ensures a calmer stomach as well.

Because the dose is hard to accurately gauge, it's safe to stay to no more than a pound at a time. You may be thinking why you'd go to this trouble when you could simply call someone up for vicoden or oxy or what have you, although you may find a cheap pharm prices, they are often costly. Some people don't have that option. This way avoids legal trouble and worry. Not very expensive either.
 

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How many "doses" can you get out of a pound of poppy seeds and would you consider it a painkiller?

My prescription for oxycontin 750s was ended over 4 years ago (severly reduced to weak ass tramadol now) How high of a tolerance would you guess I have?

Also, how long does the effect last?
 

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If you want to die, sure.
 

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Shake Sprite for 10 minutes. That should be fun.
 

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Shake Sprite for 10 minutes. That should be fun.

As I thought at first. However, a pound of poppy seeds only accounted for 1/3 the volume of the two liter bottle, and you only fill enough to cover them. There's a difference is shaking a full bottle of soda and a 1/3 full one.
 

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If you want to die, sure.

That's happened to 4 people, from what I've found. All taking ridiculous amounts. One did this with 3.5 pounds of seeds.
 

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How many "doses" can you get out of a pound of poppy seeds and would you consider it a painkiller?

My prescription for oxycontin 750s was ended over 4 years ago (severly reduced to weak ass tramadol now) How high of a tolerance would you guess I have?

Also, how long does the effect last?

I've heard of people doing this with a quarter pound of seeds and having good effects. If you're new to opiates, that may be a good starting dose, but again, it's hard to gauge.

As for length of effects, I usually could take it in the morning and still feel it in the evening. It varies. Since morphine accounts for most of the effects, I'd says it's a good painkiller.
 

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I'm actually willing to bet it's a good pain killer.
 

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It's fatal or like smoking, it will eventually kill you?

Potentially fatal within 24hrs. There's been quite a few reports of people dying from drinking poppy tea, and the dosage is unreliable. Not quoting this site as a form of evidence, just can't be bothered linking to the relevant source articles.

http://www.poppyseedtea.com/

Makes the point that even though he used the same dose every time, still died due to fluctuations of opioid content within the actual seeds. So yeah, if you want to have a Russian roulette tea party then go ahead.
 

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Calling out to everyone with some relationship to illegal drugs:


Stay away from opiates. Are you nuts? Weed, hallucinogens and even some amphetamines are OK to use, but stay away from opiates. They take the edge off of everything pleasant and rewires your brains pleasure-centre. Don't use opiates. Don't even try them out. The fact that it's a tea made from seeds and not a syringe behind a dumpster doesn't change a damn thing. Stay away from opiates.

I've experimented some with them myself in the past. One of my friends is only ever talking about them still to this day. It's got a hold on him, and it can claim a hold on anyone. They are sneaky as fuck.
 

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Potentially fatal within 24hrs. There's been quite a few reports of people dying from drinking poppy tea, and the dosage is unreliable. Not quoting this site as a form of evidence, just can't be bothered linking to the relevant source articles.

http://www.poppyseedtea.com/

Makes the point that even though he used the same dose every time, still died due to fluctuations of opioid content within the actual seeds. So yeah, if you want to have a Russian roulette tea party then go ahead.

Bluelight and Erowid are much better drug info sources. I could make a website that shows people mutilated as a result of car accidents and say that is Russian roulette to get into a vehicle. I never said this was safe, and yes, I did mention the fluctuation and inaccuracy of doses. Russian roulette is usually played with a revolver that has a capacity of six rounds, and only one round loaded. Chance of death: 1 in 6. Compare the number of times people have drank poppy seed tea to the number of deaths. It's incomprehensible why someone would relate the two. Again, not saying it's safe. You don't need to fill the role of captain obvious, it's an opiate containing beverage.
 

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It's incomprehensible why someone would relate the two.

Maybe because in both cases you're engaging in an activity in which you could die, based on nothing but sheer luck? In fact, completely independent of the fact that there's a (admittedly very slim) chance of death, doing opiates to experience a high is just about the biggest deadbeat move ever.

If you do eventually OD in the process I guess we'll just put it down to natural selection.

Agree with what Proletar said. Though I don't really think some drugs are okay to use. People seem to think that because they feel alright at the ages of 20-30, but go find a 40+ year old drug user and tell me that, 'X drug is okay, it doesn't do that much harm'.

I look forward to hearing more of the excuses you use to convince yourself and others that you aren't addicted to opiates. Or maybe you've accepted that, and you're managing the addiction in the safest way you can think of.
 

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Maybe because in both cases you're engaging in an activity in which you could die, based on nothing but sheer luck? In fact, completely independent of the fact that there's a (admittedly very slim chance) of death, doing opiates to experience a high is just about the biggest deadbeat move ever.

If you do eventually OD in the process I guess we'll just put it down to natural selection.

Agree with what Proletar said basically. Though I don't really think some drugs are okay to use. People seem to think that because they feel alright at the ages of 20-30, but go find a 40+ year old drug user and tell me that, 'X drug is okay, it doesn't do that much harm'.

I look forward to hearing more of the excuses you use to convince yourself and others that you aren't addicted to opiates. Or maybe you've accepted that, and you're managing the addiction in the safest way you can think of.

That depends on your definition of what an addict is. I don't use much. Especially opiates. I do once in a while, but there is a difference between abuse and occasional use.




Take a look at my favorite all time drug, MDMA(ecstasy). Just because I love it doesn't mean I'm addicted to it. I rarely used it more than once every 3-4 months, and now, I haven't used it in 2 years. I don't have the urge to use it anymore. Of course it's less addictive and more profound than opiates, but you can't honestly call that scarce of use addiction.

I use opiates once in a while, that doesn't make me an addict, I work on my car once in a while, that doesn't make me a mechanic.
 

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Hm.. I have a dried up poppy in my room. It just sits there.

What are the effects like?

What kind of poppy? California poppies are no bueno for this. The kind you'd be looking for is Papaver Somniferum.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy.shtml

Effects are most similar to morphine, most of the effects are due to the morphine content.
 

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Pharmacist speaking.

The opiate alkaloids found on the surface of the poppy seeds is highly, highly variable. Some brands wash their seeds to stop this kind of abuse. Others are imported and have huge amounts.

This is a common method for opiate concentration, but due to it being fairly unknown to police, families, and coroners, the actual numbers of people dying is vastly understated.

Further, there are entire forums of people addicted to it, and have been so for years.

I know two people who have ODed on this stuff and had to be revived at hospital with the same drug they use on heroin overdoses.

I would really suggest that people not do this.
 

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The high variation of opiate alkaloids was noted previously. Using a washed brand of seeds is preferable.

In how many cases of poppy seed tea death was there another drug taken in conjunction? The parents who made the poppy seed tea website openly state that their son had also taken benzo's, though he had already been found to have a high morphine content in his blood. Never mix those. Mixing opiate with opiate or benzo or alcohol is a bad idea. I'm not saying taking poppy seed tea is an amazing idea, but for those who try it, safety is a must. Harm reduction over Reagan era drug propaganda.
 

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I have seen cases where death was caused by respiratory depression due to opiates alone, but as I said, because the practice is so little known, investigators often miss the cause of death, citing heart failure or acidosis.

Added to that, most online guides advocate the use of acidic potentiators, such as vitamin c, grape juice, or vinegar. These compounds make a relatively small amount of the opiates affect the user to a greater degree. Hence, an investigator might detect what would be considered a normal therapeutic level of opiates in the blood, not knowing that death occurred due to the synergistic action of compounds that they aren't looking for.

Don't get me wrong - my position on drugs is that they should all be legal as per the Portuguese example in order to create better human outcomes and harm reduction. On top of that, I believe that people ought to be free to ingest whatever they like, and take responsibility for it. Part of being free includes the freedom to make mistakes, and potentially die as a result of those mistakes.
 

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Exactly. As a member of two of those kinds of sites, I myself tend to give someone harm reduction advice rather than tell them they shouldn't even bother. It would be great to tell people not to do something, that something is dangerous and watch them not do it. That doesn't happen though. So, why not tell those people how to do what they're doing more safely.
 

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Your logic is sound, except for the unfortunate fact that most people reading this thread never would have known what poppy seed tea was without you telling them in the first place, which kinda means that you're safely leading them into harms way :p
 

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Your logic is sound, except for the unfortunate fact that most people reading this thread never would have known what poppy seed tea was without you telling them in the first place, which kinda means that you're safely leading them into harms way :p

I think you are letting the "seed tea" aspect sort of eclipse the "use of dangerous opioids" aspect. No matter how Synthetix prefers them, they are still dangerous as fuck since they are opioids. They are to be used as an acute form of pain-relief when there is nothing else to help. Nothing more.
 
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Wow.

I actually used to work at a Smart and Final in Vegas and we'd sell out all our big containers of poppy seed every day.

I don't think it was because of drug use though.

There were lots of Russians and Poles in the neighborhood and some were running bakeries.

I heard urban legends about poppy seeds showing up on drug tests before.

But I hadn't realized you could get an effect by using massive amounts of the seeds.

Smart and Final is mostly just in SoCal. I've lived all over the country so I know they don't really have them anywhere else.
 

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I think you are letting the "seed tea" aspect sort of eclipse the "use of dangerous opioids" aspect. No matter how Synthetix prefers them, they are still dangerous as fuck since they are opioids. They are to be used as an acute form of pain-relief when there is nothing else to help. Nothing more.

http://forum.opiophile.org/forum.php
 

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I think you are letting the "seed tea" aspect sort of eclipse the "use of dangerous opioids" aspect. No matter how Synthetix prefers them, they are still dangerous as fuck since they are opioids. They are to be used as an acute form of pain-relief when there is nothing else to help. Nothing more.
You got me backwards. Opiates are a slippery slope at best. Unquantified opiates as per unknown quality of alkaloids is worse. My point was that it's best that people not know about this stuff, because it's easy to underestimate the potency.

A half pound of seed has been reported to me as being as effective as popping an Endone pill.

Oh and as per your previous post, yes, it is an effecive painkiller.
 

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Yes?

You got me backwards. Opiates are a slippery slope at best. Unquantified opiates as per unknown quality of alkaloids is worse. My point was that it's best that people not know about this stuff, because it's easy to underestimate the potency.

A half pound of seed has been reported to me as being as effective as popping an Endone pill.

Oh and as per your previous post, yes, it is an effecive painkiller.

Gotcha, makes sense.
 
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