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Pod'Lair VS MBTI/JCF

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I think the comparison to body language is useful. Experts at reading body language are able to see cues that untrained people generally don't notice which (especially when clustered together) provide more-or-less reliable information about that person's emotional and mental state. A lot of people find it difficult to believe when they first come across this - it's seen as almost offensive that someone would assume they have access to their mind and feelings, and often they in turn assume they can fool the readers. But these cues are involuntary expressions of the limbic brain, and it's very rare that someone can override that natural instinct with a distraction cue that's convincing enough - especially since they are read in clusters and in context (too much information to fake). Perhaps it's possible that someone highly trained in Pod'lair would be able to 'fake' a test, but I doubt one of us could.
Facial expressions are hard to fake as well, and there's evidence which shows a majority of them are consistent across very varied cultures.

Considering all that, I don't see why there's such a huge amount of disbelief and refusal to even consider that the cognitive functions (clusters of cognitive tendencies?) - that through different configurations and external pressures produce varied archetypes - produce physical 'tells' that can be read, the same way emotions can. And if they are in fact involuntary in the same way, then there's really no need to rely on self-assessment.

In fact I think even with body language cues, the person producing them isn't necessarily aware of his emotional state. I remember being read once as nervous/uncomfortable because of certain cues, and I didn't agree with the assessment at all - I felt quite at ease.... with my arms and legs crossed, and my hand occasionally pacifying my neck and/or legs. This *isn't* behaviour I engage in at home, where I'm most comfortable. In order to feel 'at ease', I had to engage in pacifying, defensive behaviour that broadcasted my discomfort in that particular environment. I didn't realise this till a little later, when I thought about my behavioural variation across different contexts. And it was impossible to 'mask' how I actually felt, at least not without causing additional stress which of course could be read and placed in context. Instead I had to change how I felt, by calming my mind and consciously relaxing all the areas of tension in my body (interestingly, this change in body language produced a change in mindset).

So yeah, there is information about our inner state that strangers, especially trained ones, can access without our permission. The essence of what Pod'lair is suggesting that causes such offended disbelief is not that implausible, I think.
 

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First, the Pod'lair theory seems based on the school of behaviorism and it's methodology of measuring observable phenomena, where MBTI seems based on structuralism with it's methodology of introspection. This means that both of them are approaching the same basic problem from two different points of view, essentially making this an "apples and oranges" argument. Also, both points of view are not all inclusive, so will only be able to make incomplete models.
It looks like I was not as clear as I should have been initially.

If I am not mistaken, and please do not hesitate to correct me if I am, it sounds like you are essentially suggesting that Pod'lair is all observation and no understanding while MBTI is all understanding with no observation. Thus both are incomplete. If that is the case, then that assertion would be not true at all. The understanding of Pod'Lair theory comes second to the observable phenomenon and nature of the 16 configuration. This is not to say the model is only made up of shallow and concrete surface level observable behaviors.

Every physiological cue you see is indicative of something that is happening in the mind. The body is designed to reflect how the psyche is wired, and if you can read that physiological language, you can read how ones psyche is wired.
Doing so gives a an expansive knowledge and understanding of how all of the 16 configurations work and can potentially pan out, as opposed to MBTI's limited knowledge of each of the 16, and the assumption that every one is supposed to match up to a single behavioral archetype.
So in the words of Miley Cirus, we've got the best of both worlds.

It is technically not like comparing apples and oranges, because even though we are making very different approaches, we are both aiming to identify the same kind of phenomenon in people, which is why we can correct MBTI's mistakes. We have designed a way to identify these patterns in such a way that is objective and without the interference of lack or self-knowledge or practitioner incompetence, or memes.

I really have no idea what gives you the idea that this is not an inclusive theory, or what in what way you mean it is not, so I really can't address that point directly.



Second, Pod'lair seems to be attempting to make a more personalized personality type, where MBTI is attempting to fit everyone into broad groups.


As I said in my reply in the other post, I think part of the rigidity of MBTI is because it attempts to make predictions about behavior, where Pod'lair is attempting to tell you how to work with whatever personality you have developed over top of the cognitive functions (the way your personal cognitive functions manifest themselves). So, essentially, MBTI is attempting to be a predictive model, where Pod'lair seems to be more geared toward development and self-help; MBTI says "this type is good for such-and-such" and Pod'lair says "this is how this type can get better and such-and-such."
Again, we have the best of both worlds, I thought I made that clear in the statement you are quoting but apparently I didn't. When you have a certain cognitive configuration, there will be many things that will be universal to you and the others like you just by your nature alone, for example the energy relationships that you share with other people, your person peak pathway, all of the mechanics of your configuration hierarchy of functions, etc.
All of these can be used to make predictions to how you will behave and respond to certain things.

However, no matter what model you use, there will always be questions like, "Why is that person more outgoing than me if we are the same Configuration? Why does this person like being in large crowds and I don't?" etc etc etc.

The simple answer is because people develop differently and in turn end up being more comfortable or confident in certain things that others may not be to that degree. Even though you could have two models of the same configuration that seem different, although they have really only developed ways to use the same tools differently. However that is not to say that the potential is not there. The point is, all of these details can throw off the predictions you are trying to make if you don't take them into consideration (much like how MBTI does not take them into consideration.)

I would actually go as far to say that MBTI actually doesn't have the predictive qualities that you might think it has because: 1.) It will more than likely mistype you, 2.) It doesn't have a strong enough understanding of how each type works to really know what they would be good at 3.) Just because a few other types were good at doing a certain meme doesn't mean you are going to be good at or even interested in doing it 4.) Do to its limitations in understanding of the natures of the 16, it is most certainly under estimating your potential. Anybody can do pretty much anything using their own configuration. (Especially when they try to predict what the won't be good at.)

It is like the Multiple intelligence tests, if you have no interest or knowledge in math, it will mark you as having a low Mathmatic intelligence, but that doesn't mean you don't still have the potential to be great at it.
 

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I don't see the problem with podlair. If it is really as good as the podlair people say it is, then they will be proven right by the scientific community and then any other typology system will be a relict of the past. If that's not going to happen, then it will remain what is now: mostly hot air.
So far I haven't even seen anything from podlair that even resembles scientific data and I find that odd for a system that claims 100% accuracy. The reasoning behind that seems circular - according to podlair, podlair is right.
Not to mention that serious science doesn't look like that. Why all the bizarre terminology? Why the harsh and dismissive tone?

I don't know if podlair is a cult but all the warning signs are there.

You always manage to seem to say what I want to say before I get to it. I don't even know why I bother.

Yes, my issue with pod'lair is it's unfounded, underlying arrogance. It has nothing backing it up except anecdotal evidence from the creators.

Now there is obviously evidence for reading people via physiological cues, but pod'lair's organization of such premises is still unfounded and therefore has yet to earn its arrogance.
 

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Now there is obviously evidence for reading people via physiological cues, but pod'lair's organization of such premises is still unfounded and therefore has yet to earn its arrogance.
No, actually the proof is right there in the cues.

We can physically show you, that there are things that are coming more naturally and readily to people, and things that people have to put more energy into doing.
You can physically see people are gaining momentum (or energy) by using certain functions, you can physically see using other ones are more taxing of their energy, and being used less efficiently.
There are cues that you either have or don't have, like an Aware mouth for Xyy or unaware mouth for Xai for instance, you either have one or the other, there is nothing in between. You can actually see that there are humans that intentionally and directively use their expressions to move and influence people, and other kinds of humans whose expressions reflect their inner resonation, and they are not actually aware of them.

These are just a few examples of patterns that you can't just dismiss, and if you did it would either be foolish or lazy (which is still foolish.)

These are the cues, physical objective natural law cues, that the theory is founded on, so your assertion that our theory is unfounded, is unfounded.

The only way you could suggest we were wrong about what we do is to suggest that the cues are not happening, which they are, and we will dissect the shit out of your videos to show you what you missed in yourself.

You sound like the typical kind of skeptic that has this idea in their head that the truth is a democracy, and we are supposed to go out of our way to prove ourselves to the lumpilumps who just close their eyes and doubt everything and are too lazy to look into it themselves.

No, we're not going to play that game.

People reading is something that once you begin to see, you cannot simply unsee, because it is there and blatantly obvious to those who are not blind to it. That is where our confidence comes from. Your doubt has absolutely no hold on what we know we can do, and what we are training others to do (which they now know they can do.) We don't need you to agree that it is there, we are already being validated by it every single day.

So by all means, you continue doubting, and we will continue performing unprecedented feats. Eventually it is going to get to a point where you will have to acknowledge us, with the predictions we can make, with the things we can do with it, it is going get to a point where the probability of this all being bullshit is just plain highly unlikely.
 

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Sience we are all shouting stuff and asking questions I might as well as some of my own.

Hey Aumydayus could pod lair be used to predict a social interaction bewteen two mojos?
 

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No.
Shit.
Sherlock.


You've never heard the phrase: "I'm two steps ahead of you?"

Same principle.

Come on man, if you are going to take a shot at me, please think it through. That's just embarrassing.

Oh I don't think I was taking a "shot at" you. I was merely making a "funny" for my pleasure, which my professor mentioned a couple times in his lecture, "if you have to tell that it is a joke, it probably isn't a joke." So go figure. Which someone up above mentioned it "was" a measure of time.:confused:

Now, with all respect, you do realize the arguments I have seen for both sides essentially end in a reductio ad absurdum. Well they don't end they just find their way in that.

Now I would like to see some evidence that doesn't admit to a reductio ad absurdum. Every argument I have ever read for typology or "mojo reading" if you really want to use another word for the same thing, depends on "because they said so."

Take in mind just because Adymus is really the only person defending Pod'Lair with confidence I am not just talking in that direction, this goes to the MBTI, the Socionics, the JCE(whatever the hell that is) or what other acronyms you want to throw out.

Your argument is not valid if it consists of "Because I said so." I am sure I am not the only person that hated with every bone in their body when the "adults" used that for reasoning when they were a child.
 

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Sience we are all shouting stuff and asking questions I might as well as some of my own.

Hey Aumydayus could pod lair be used to predict a social interaction bewteen two mojos?
Potentially yes, but there are a lot of factors that go into a single social interaction, so it would depend on a lot of knowns and known unknowns.

If you are one of those two people, then definately. but if all you know is what Person X and person Y's Mojo is, and that they will meet, and you don't know anything else about them or how they are meeting, then that's not a prediction that you can base simply on knowing the two Mojos alone, you can come up with some possible outcomes with that kind of knowledge, but the randomness of it makes it a pretty chaotic prediction to try and make.
 

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They are accepting pictures as well, I guess. With this, they can make you a guest, so you can read a bit more into it.

I'm just not sure how I can be read through a picture or why it's allowed, except to prove I'm not a 'bot, I suppose. By their own rules, they'd need real-time expression of self.

Maybe I can send them 32 x 60 x 10 = 19200 JPGs, that if they flip through them really fast, they can compile a ten-minute video from. :p

(That should definitely tell them something about my personality, lol!)

You're right. Predicting behaviours is the goal of psychological models. I've expressed myself poorly. What I actually meant is that MBTI has narrowed their archetypes to only a certain part of the personality type. So, when a person starts to use traits outside of what's on the archetype, they start doubting if they're being themselves or they've changed their personality. And that's not what happening, they had just accessed different parts of their own personalities.

Well, I agree that that would be wrong, but maybe I just read and talk about MBTI to the wrong people -- to me, what you describe is not necessarily an issue with MBTI, it's an issue with bad practictioners, and it's never been how I've approached MBTI either, although I guess the MBTI setup of 16 types itself can contribute to that sort of misunderstanding. (Then again, PodLair does the same thing in the stuff I could read.)

It's pretty clear that a rigid reading will exclude (or compress) a large percentage of people. I guess I approach MBTI more through function theory, looking at the basic principles that the broad functions apply in perceiving and judging situations, and then compare it to an individual's broad approach to life. After that happens, I can extrapolate one of the MBTI types, but I still can preserve the individual detail and expression even if overall someone would fit best within a certain category.

This has just kind of been an intuitive process for me, and I've never understood the rigidity that people have applied to typing systems.

And being honest, I also find it awfully similar to MBTI. Pod Powers correlate with functions, 16 mojos correlate with 16 types. The Powers Order correlates with the function order. They're very similar.

Yes. That struck me too.

But for me, PodLair allows a bit more flexibility. Others may disagree with me, but you could dive into PodLair with your JCF/MBTI background and with some acquainting, start exploring it just like an extension of these theories.

But at the same time, they're not the same. If you're willing to be tolerant with the changes, you'll find yourself being able to bring back PodLair concepts to MBTI grounds.

or take it somewhere new entirely. :)

I'm not into the reading aspect of PodLair yet, I'm more into the theory part of it. But these cues can be seen as something like body language. When we're outgoing, we open ourselves psychologically and physically, right?

I guess I was thinking more along the lines of what I have seen people do with Socionics, where the focus on the extroverted self seems taken to a radical degree with concepts like "appearance typing." I do think that internal motivation and personality can be inferred through some external behaviors and signs (it's kind of like reverse engineering), but people routinely abuse it. It's like all those signs people use to determine if someone is lying -- most of them are BS and/or misapplied signs, it's more a matter of how something is done rather than necessarily what is done. One has to be canny indeed to not fall for inaccurate or irrelevant cues.

Again, I agree with you on some points. It's not the theory, but the attitude that bugs me somewhat. But I'm willing to learn more, as it helped me before. If you want to give it a try, you'll have your opinion.

Yeah, I think I'm more resistant because of the obsessive/rigid and fucking arrogant attitude I've seen expressed regarding it by this site's resident proselytizer, but I hope it's a sign of good faith I'm bothering to examine it anyway on its own merits. It would only be fair of me to judge the message by its content rather than by the messenger.

You're right, the only way I'll know is to get a video sent in... but I don't have the resources to do it right now and I'm not sure I want to go through all that effort for something that they don't seem to make to make accessible anyway. We'll see.

(The other problem with the video is that I'm too much of a chameleon, and I have different personas I used when interacting. I definitely have an extroverted face I've developed that I can wear, in terms of how I express myself, all as a matter of connecting. In this case, they will probably get hung up on the cues themselves rather than realizing the true principle about myself I'm expressing is the need I feel to even have an extroverted face at all, in order to communicate better. Lots of mistakes like that. I suspect I would end up laughing more at the reading than finding it accurate.)
 

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That is not entirely accurate. One of them, external assessment, is necessary, internal assessment on the other hand is optional, we do not need a person to know themselves for us to be able to read them. Actually, we expect people to not know themselves.

I have to say, I'm getting really irritated by the "we" shit. You sound like a codependent hive mind, and it comes off as anxiety to me. You don't need to make it sound like an army stands behind you in order to support your theory -- just discuss the theory! it will stand or fall on its own.

There is no guarantee that you will agree with the natural law of how you are wired. Whether you agree or disagree with it is also irrelevant, your nature does not need to be validated by your awareness, it will still be there even if you cannot acknowledge it.

Which is all true... but literally does nothing to justify that YOUR perception of me is the accurate one. Why are you even mentioning it? It makes it sound like you're assuming you have a handle on reality others do not.

The Problem with MBTI and JCE is the Archetypes are concrete and solidified. There is no way to tell if those Archetypes are properly capturing the type you are trying to capture, because every time someone acts outside of the archetype you place them into a different box. The whole theory of the 16 are based on these archetypes, so what you end up with is your boxes defining people, as opposed to real people defining your archetypes.

I'm not really sure how you can have a type theory which does not describe ideal archetypes, unless you take a "function/attribute" approach. (Big Five, MBTI function theory, etc.) That way, personality is constructed by the interaction of various attributes, resulting in a unique picture of each individual.

Of course, the basic form of MBTI you describe as well as Pod'Lair both present archetypes.


When you Mojo Read vast amounts of samples, you actually do see many patterns, you will see the same types being played out in many different archetypes, ones the MBTI would have never anticipated in fact, and you get even get a broader understanding of how they work as a whole. Since we do not base our reads on these archetypes, we can actually see how varied they possibly can be. MBTI and JCE does not give you that option.

I'm still not sure why you are saying MBTI does not give you that option. Function theory is derived from MBTI and used in conjunction with it, and it DOES provide those options.

You say they change the archetype, but that is just complete BS and you know it, when have you ever seen any descriptions being updated? All you have to update is your own subjective understand, which of course you can't actually confirm, so you never really know if you are expanding your understanding of one type, or something else that you have mistaken them for.

Dude, you could say this about any theory, including Pod'Lair. I'm sorry if your Ni believes you have the ultimate handle on who people are, but forgive me if I can't blindly buy into your powers of perception.

Everything and everyone is subjective, if you want to go there.
Even you.

Besides, did I say they "change the archetype?" The 16 archetypes are compiled types based on the ideal/extreme leanings of the four functions that comprise it. That's all. It's still function driven, rather than something like the Enneagram where it seems that the archetypes truly WERE developed on their own without any sort of underlying foundation generating them.

Because MBTI archetypes are based on function, they should have never been considered static. They should just be considered the simplified outcome of someone who utilizes their four particular functions without much tempering/blending resulting from other function use and ordering. It should be assumed that people will vary from the 16 archetypes, few people would ever meet all the criteria.

If people start with the 16 archetypes as the building blocks, they're going to be wrong. and if you focus on criticisms on the 16 archetypes, you are going to misrepresent MBTI as well.

Other than what I just said, there is this one: It is actually not a personality theory, it is a theory on the natural law of human design.

*doh*

Yes. your pet theory. So it must be right. I get it.

Note the key word in both of those descriptions: "THEORY."
(Actually, it should be "hypothesis," all things considered.)


MBTI/JCE, at the very best can give you a description of what you are like (or think you are like) It pretty much stops there.

No, it doesn't. See above.

When you have your Cognitive configuration read, and with the understanding of how it works and wants to work, the implications behind that are endless. You can optimize yourself for peak performance (we can actually make you a stronger and more successful person, benefiting every aspect of life), you can optimize your relationships (friends, family, romantic partners, teammates, coworkers, etc) for maximum energy outputs, whether that be for reaching a certain goal, or just enjoying yourselves. Entire theories will either have to be revised or dispatched for not taking this into consideration, entire systems (especially education) will need to be reworked to fit into how humans are actually designed to learn and work. Furthermore, we intend to train massive amounts over people in Mojo reading, we are not keeping that skill set for ourselves. You'll be able to spot different configurations on the fly, you will be able to vividly see a whole new dimension of interpersonal dynamics that is currently unavailable to you.

Everything you said here is exactly what I already do with MBTI function theory. I am thinking at this point that your MBTI attacks are just strawmen.

And I have only scratched the surface in this conversation, I haven't even begun to get into the unconscious yet.

Ah yes. Never go against a Sicilian when type theory is on the line!

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

It most certainly does, everything you see on the surface is reflective of what is happening behind the curtain. Coming from MBTI you still have the idea that to truly read into how a person is wired, you would have to read their mind, which is understandable, but that is actually not necessary.

Of course it's not.
No one can ever read anyone's mind.

All we get are words and cues and behavior.

The kinds of cues and signals that we base our reads off of cannot be faked, some of them simply cannot be manifested by anything but what the person naturally is, some cues can manifest in multiple configurations, but when they do they have a distinct "flavor" to them.

Yawn. Preaching to the choir. I'm just not convinced you know what those cues are, based on the distortions in logic I've seen you express here on the site and your unbalanced zeal for this pet theory.

So while an MBTI practitioner might look at an INFJ who is purposely acting really outgoing, wild and crazy, really kinetic and touchy feely and think "That person must be an ESFP." We could see that exact same thing and our read will be "That is a Nai'xyy who just happens to be acting really outgoiong, and kinetic, etc."

Again, that is exactly how *I* approach it, and I can still manage it using the MBTI and function theory framework. Maybe that's why you've been getting crappy reactions from me -- you're just lumping me into your MBTI box. But I've never used it the way you describe.

We don't get fooled by things like that, because we are not looking for surface behavior like MBTI is,

Hive mind. Bzzzzzzzz.....

so what we see is your natural configuration, performing different kinds of archetypes. The archetypes themselves doesn't skew the read, because we are looking beyond that, even when you act a certain way, you are going to do it in a certain pattern based on your Mojo configuration.

*yawn* Yes, we covered this ground over and over already.

You haven't gotten very far into the site, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but the differences are pretty obvious, so if you later on still feel the same way then you are really just not looking.

I can't get into the site without making a commitment to a group of people who I'm not yet impressed with. Maybe that's the problem. What do you have on the forum right now? 47 members?

We found that people are wary of giving video of themselves, which is the only way we give firm confirmations, so we do soft reads with whatever media they are willing to provide until we eventually get video. So if you send a few pictures of yourself, you will get a soft read as well as guest access to the rest of the site and forum student area.

Okay. I will consider that.

I'm not trying to be a bitch (I guess I just do that naturally, ha). But I'm not going to mince words much either at this point in my life.
 

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(The other problem with the video is that I'm too much of a chameleon, and I have different personas I used when interacting. I definitely have an extroverted face I've developed that I can wear, in terms of how I express myself, all as a matter of connecting. In this case, they will probably get hung up on the cues themselves rather than realizing the true principle about myself I'm expressing is the need I feel to even have an extroverted face at all, in order to communicate better. Lots of mistakes like that. I suspect I would end up laughing more at the reading than finding it accurate.)

Don't worry about that.

It would be mean to act deliberately (although they could read through it), but no one is going to hold it against you if it's "natural" to you.
 

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Originally posted by Adymus: People reading is something that once you begin to see, you cannot simply unsee, because it is there and blatantly obvious to those who are not blind to it. That is where our confidence comes from. Your doubt has absolutely no hold on what we know we can do, and what we are training others to do (which they now know they can do.) We don't need you to agree that it is there, we are already being validated by it every single day.

I get this, and it gives me a great deal of hope; after almost 60 years of being bewildered by most humans, it is empowering to envision being able to navigate this mystery of social interaction with some knowledge and thus confidence.

I just hope it all turns out to be reasonably accurate, and not a warped world-view by a deluded nutso.

Having been in a cult myself, spending 7 years on a commune in New England, taking care of the tractors and milking the goats and making goat cheese, and absolutely loving being with my fellow peasants in a state of mutual bliss, it was disheartening to me when I discovered how ugly and self-deluded the organization was at the top; the usual bunch of delusional and manipulative charlatans...I was happy as a peasant, though, and gained incredible life experiences from them, and I rather wish I had never gained access to the inner workings of the higher levels of the hierarchy; it was...ugly and awful.

Here's hoping pod'lair is not the same.

Jennywocky originally posted: I have to say, I'm getting really irritated by the "we" shit. You sound like a codependent hive mind, and it comes off as anxiety to me. You don't need to make it sound like an army stands behind you in order to support your theory -- just discuss the theory! it will stand or fall on its own.

Yes, this is what also bugs me...it can be a sign of a cult mind-set; been there, done that. Not saying it is, but it...could be; I've seen it before.
 

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I get this, and it gives me a great deal of hope; after almost 60 years of being bewildered by most humans, it is empowering to envision being able to navigate this mystery of social interaction with some knowledge and thus confidence.

C'mon man, there's more to compatibility than just psychological type... I'm a Socionics junkie and even I know this.

Get out of your funk man.
 

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I won't be here long but I think the following is worth mentioning..

(make sure not to mention MBTI if you ever register on their forum or you will be banned on sight)

True story.. the following is a thread I made on Podlair's forum months ago:
Thread Title: Podlair vs MBTI

Don't be alarmed, this is not a thread to try and debate which theory is better. That much is evident.

The reason I make this thread is because I know we're all very familiar with the MBTI here but it almost seems to me like we've been trying to avoid the topic - and yet I still see many of us here leak out MBTI terminology in our posts every now and then.

However, as an advocate of truth, I wanna bring this conversation to the table if I may. The truth of the matter is that before Pod'lair formed (which we all know is not too long ago), the most accurate systems in existence were those of Carl Gustav Jung as refined by many psychoanalysts since his time. It's also by this system that I, and probably several of you here, were first introduced to this phenomenon of the mind we here call Mojo configurations but which has been called many things in the past. (temperaments, personality types, etc)

It is not a new phenomenon, but a crystallization and completion of a phenomenon that has been present for decades. I feel, sincerely, that this needs to be acknowledged more than it has been. Credit must be given to the long line of passionate and curious minds which came before us, and helped give form and basis to this theory. I also feel doing so will be a great good for Pod'lair as opposed to not recognizing the other systems and what they have contributed, even though they were/are not entirely accurate.

Considering Pod'Lair's vision spans to every realm of human experience, and is confident in soon becoming recognized at a substantial level, it's inevitable that this topic of Podlair vs MBTI will be presented as a major point of debate in the future, taking into account that the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator currently stands as the most widely used system of human-psyche categorization.

I feel that making a video specifically for addressing the topic of Podlair vs MBTI would greatly benefit Pod'lair, as it would help clearly define exactly what kind of relationship it has to MBTI. There are similarities in both systems that need to be admitted, differences which need to be highlighted, and flaws that need to be exposed in the MBTI clearly.

Doing this will help convince many to transition from those systems to Podlair gracefully. There are a lot of people out there with a genuine passion for understanding the psyche who are flaky about typology because they're able to see the phenomenon existing around them (vaguely) but no model/theory is distinct enough and consistent enough to answer their questions. These, I feel, are the people Podlair needs to reach out to, and a lot of those will have prior association with socionics/mbti/etc..

For such people, when they are recruited, I feel it needs to be communicated clearly that the phenomenon which they were observing in people all around them and calling other things (Ni/Ne/Si/Se/Ti/Te/Fi/Fe) are not invalid but merely not the full story - - that the observations they were making were legitimate at some level, then proceed to educate them on a higher level of reasoning. However, to do this Podlair cannot dodge, but must admit that it is an extension -- an evolution and perhaps perfection -- of those systems, which is something that I haven't seen made clear. (o,o don't kill me pwease)

Methinks there needs to be a sticky thread on this forum where former MBTI/Socionics/etc learners can have questions answered, and where all systems are cross-referenced/compared in order to dismiss confusions which will arise, inevitably. It just seems like the natural and mature thing to do.. to address these things in clear and neutral light.

To which Adymus replied:

Well Auburn, we're probably not claiming to be based on MBTI because Pod'Lair is a completely different model! Why would we associate with MBTI when MBTI is an immensely flawed model? We don't associate ourselves with MBTI for the same reason String Theory does not associate itself with Creationism, it is a completely different model, and one of these models is a trillion times more massive, accurate, and sophisticated. To do so would all too validating of people like you, Auburn; people who would come in here, while we are trying to teach our theory, and try to tell us what we are seeing and not seeing regardless of the fact that you have absolutely no idea what our model is in the first place.

The truth of the matter is also that before Pod'lair there also used to be an ancient Chinese theory of Face Reading. They even divided the face into Mouth, Cheeks, and Eyes like we do, so why don't we give that model credit? Because not unlike MBTI, Pod'lair is not based on Chinese face reading. Pod'lair theory eclipses and overshadows the phenomenons that MBTI as well as Chinese face reading was attempting to explain. Ultimately, they were both wrong, and to base our work on these models would be to base our work on a faulty foundation. A departure from an old paradigm is not an expansion of the old paradigm. Instead Pod'lair stands on it's own, and we are constantly correcting the mistakes these other models were making.

This is not a new Phenomenon? Really Auburn? Not only are the discoveries that have been made in Pod'lair completely unprecedented, there literally has never been anything else in the world that has seen what we are seeing, and is going to accomplish what we will accomplish. This is going to revolutionize everything, Auburn, thousands of other theories and studies in Psychology, Psychiatry, Sociology, Neuroscience, Artificial Intelligence, Spirituality, Business, are all going to be recalculated and improved upon. This is not even close to an old phenomenon.

Uhhh, No. What will convince others to gracefully transition is not going to be claiming that it is just like theirs, it will be the fact that we are reading people at 100%, while the other models are not even close to that, it will be that our proof of concept is right on their faces, and if they choose to deny it because they don't like that it is not their old model, that's their own fault. And yes, actually the previous theories are invalid, just because they saw 'something' doesn't mean they saw the right 'something', and if we have to go back and tell them what they are actually seeing, then yes, their observations are invalid.

The only way a person would be confused about how to differentiate our model from other models like MBTI, is if they came to us thinking we were teaching them MBTI. We are not teaching people MBTI, we are teaching them Pod'lair, there should be no mistake about this, we have made no claim to be related to MBTI. You have no reason to be confused about how this is supposed to compare to MBTI or Socionics, unless of course you are telling yourself that we are an MBTI or socionics based theory, and if that is the case then you probably should have read the disclaimer on being open-minded and Respectful a bit more clearly.

And that's the end of the thread. I was banned for it and then the thread was archived in a "what-not-to-do-on-this-forum" section. I wasn't upset so much as just disappointed by the close-mindedness of it all.

Also, it wasn't like I was trolling either. I actually had spent a few weeks there and had shared my personal narrative sincerely and communed with members. I just felt uncomfortable and claustraphobic in the environment, and had to speak up.. and that's what happened. For the record, Adymus wasn't the one who banned me but someone else there, but still I was banned - the reason given: Vampire/Villian.

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@ Adymus:

l agree with Jennywocky that you have a very strawmanned perception of MBTI. A lot of the things you mention as issues with MBTI are nothing new and in fact were covered well by SW in the Shifting from MBTI to JCF thread.

Those engaged in this discussion are beyond the superficial misunderstandings of MBTI so your bashing of it does nothing really. I do not approach MBTI as a list of behaviors or boxes to fit people into. I like the way SolitaryWalker words it right before making his INTP Profile:

Disclaimer: As has been indicated in my previous writings on typology, my profiles are about the philosophy of a particular type and not behavior thereof. I write about the unconscious tendencies and not the external manifestations of such tendencies. This profile is dedicated to INTP philosophy and not what we may observe in our INTPs next door. As we know, our unconscious tendencies inevitably manifest in a concrete, external fashion. However, there is no need to tie this or that unconscious tendency to one particular external act. Our external behavior can easily be influenced by the context it is acted out in, and most distinctly by our external influences. Carl Jung has a distinction in his profile descriptions of ‘function’ and type. In the former he describes how the psychology of the function works, and in the latter how people of such type tend to behave. This profile is exclusively about the former, whatever references I may make to the latter are only means to the end of better understanding the former. If you’re looking for a description of ‘type’, you’d be well advised to stop reading now. For such information, you’re best off turning to the Paul James INTP profile.

- Source

Additionally, I echo SimulatedWorlds, you really ought to read Psychological Types - the base upon which your opponent stands - before making the assertions you are making. And to make sure it's not entirely avoided again, I'll post just the Introduction to the book here so you see what I'm saying:

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He even uses the words Objective and Subjective for extraversion and introversion, which I also agree are much closer to the essence of what they are. He talks about the psychic energy of them, etc. And this was published in 1921. And you believe Pod'lair is a new phenomenon? ...

It is technically not like comparing apples and oranges, because even though we are making very different approaches, we are both aiming to identify the same kind of phenomenon in people, which is why we can correct MBTI's mistakes. We have designed a way to identify these patterns in such a way that is objective and without the interference of lack or self-knowledge or practitioner incompetence, or memes.

Oh? That's not what you said to me in the thread I got banned for, or in PMs we've had. I know it was a bit harsh, but still I never did get a reply to this one:

1) It seems clear to me that the system Thomas is talking about is the very same system we currently know as MBTI/Jung-Typology. It is not a new concept, but merely an expansion of a currently existing concept. However, Pod'Lair does not portray itself as such, but rather chooses to display itself as if it were something completely new and groundbreaking, and yet it still blatantly uses references from MBTI (e=yy, i=ai, etc)

The new findings of the 5 gears and people reading by facial cues is an incredible find, yes, but it is not so grand (even combined with other tweaks Thomas has made) that it warrants a complete recreation of the system. It should have instead been presented as a refining/improvement of the system instead. What Pod'Lair is doing is what's referred to as repackaging.

2) By portraying itself as something original/unique when it clearly isn't, Pod'Lair is setting itself up for rejection and it's findings may not be accepted by many who would've accepted them better if presented in a neutrally-colored light.

As you've already witnessed, the forum didn't take it too well, and I'm quite confident it won't only be INTP forum that is repulsed by it.

The names chosen clearly have obvious associations with a lot of other bogus new-agey philosophies, and that has to be taken into account.

There are implications to every action/word we say/do, and those who are wise take caution to understand ahead of time what those implications are, to what extent they reach, and whether or not that effect is really what one desires.

I know, what one chooses to call a concept has nothing to do with the concepts' validity itself. However, rare is he who is mature enough and openminded enough to give everything that is presented in front of them a fair and neutral chance to express itself - and I sure can't blame those that don't.

Sure, Pod'Lair could choose to shrug off those who judge it by it's cover, but by doing so it is robbing many people of a great opportunity and self-development who, if Pod'Lair had been presented in a more appealing light, might have fully embraced Thomas' concepts.

I feel as though this is all more for him (Thomas) than for humanity itself. If he chooses to keep these terms which I believe will tailor to few and reject many, for the sake of his need to be a tribe-leader and a creator of something unique, then it's more out of a personal satisfaction...

Being an INFJ and having these desires is not something I'm trying to condemn, but I just think Thomas is exalting his theory (and by extension, himself) far higher than what it deserves. I've seen some of his videos and he talks about the absolute accuracy and "rock-solid"ness of his theory. He has a type of Snowflake-Syndrome, or an Ni on a high horse. When Ni starts to inflate an INFJ's head, they become.. full of shit. (or at least that's the trend I've seen. I mean no offense. I'm just sharing with you what I feel is wrong with Pod'Lair's presentation, but in itself, I agree with most all of it's content I've seen thus far.)

From what I've quoted above in this post, it's clear that JCF and Podlair are describing the exact same thing, thus Podlair is an expansion of it. But if there's anyone who still wants more proof, go here: http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=8106

In this thread, when Podlair was still at more primitive levels, the names of their 'pod powers' were different:

by Thomas:

There are many awesome things about being an Ihnai'ehfee. Note, it is much easier to speak in the terms of my theoretic model. It has correlation with some Jungian stuff but it is its own unique system that includes much more than models of that sort and also corrects a lot of other models work. I will give you a quick reference for correlations and then I will speak in my native theoretic language. Here you go:
Ehsai or \\ - Si
Ihnai or //- Ni
Ehfee or :+: - Fe
Teyee or # - Te
Ehfai or @ - Fi
Teyai or = - Ti
Ehsee or ** - Se
Ihnee or ?? - Ne
Ihnai'ehfee or //(:+:) - INFJ
Ihnai'teyee or //(#) - INTJ
Ehsai'ehfee or \\(:+:) - ISFJ
Ehsai'teyee or \\(#) - ISTJ
Ehfee'ihnai or :+:(//) - ENFJ
Ehfee'ehsai or :+:(\\) - ESFJ
Teyee'ihnai or #(//) - ENTJ
Teyee'ehsai or #(\\) - ESTJ
Ehfai'ihnee or @(??) - INFP
Ehfai'ehsee or @(**) - ISFP
Teyai'ihnee or =(??) - INTP
Teyai'ehsee or =(**) - ISTP
Ehsee'ehfai or **(@) - ESFP
Ehsee'teyai or **(=) - ESTP
Ihnee'ehfai or ??(@) - ENFP
Ihnee'teyai or ??(=) - ENTP
Males are distinguished when need with the letter 'Y'. So you are technically a //(:+:)Y.

Now, anyone with some intelligence can see that the words used for the pod-powers are the phonetic equivalent to the Jungian Cognitive Functions. However, somewhere along the line they must have chosen to depart from MBTI associations altogether - which might explain their adamant refusal to paralleling them - and now are in denial of it's origins.
 

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Don't worry about that.

It would be mean to act deliberately (although they could read through it), but no one is going to hold it against you if it's "natural" to you.

Good for them!

@Jenny - Good for you. At least someone's standing up against Adymus...that guy's rhetoric is getting old.

Here's some stuff from their forum:

Question:

Hi people

Starting at this other thread, I asked if Nai used Vyy as a trigger. For instance, being a Nai alpha, I often noticed myself using small details to trigger a whole torrent of ideas and visions.

Jonathan has answered by saying that even though Vyy can trigger Nai, it's not necessary to engage in Nai,as it's a pro-active power, not a reactive power.

So, I've wanted to extrapolate the boundaries of this, and wonder how powers can access other powers as a way to experience the world. For instance, while Nai can use Vyy by noticing meaningful things in the current sensory environment, Vyy can also use Nai to change the shift of the current experience by associating something with the perception at hand.

If I expressed myself poorly, I'll add some examples. A Nai alpha passes in front of a church. By the time it sees the church, it starts to wonder about the objective of the building, the meaning of religion, and keep going into introspective tangents. Similarly, A Vyy alpha passes in front of the same church, and the church makes him think of religion. Suddenly, it starts noticing people on the street that are carrying bibles with them.

(I just love my examples )

I could think of this for Vai and Nyy as well. But when it comes to Xai/Xyy and Zai/Zyy, my understanding gets a bit foggy, as I can't see the way that each of these powers will access their compensatory powers. How do we use logic to express or values and vice versa?

Answer:

Leon, you will want to check out the post Thomas has planned for the Breaking News area of the forums. In it, he will discuss the concept of Synomnia. Synomnia is a Pod'Lair term and is meant to properly define the experience and methodology of inducing synomnia, a more advanced and complete relative of synesthesia. What you are describing with the perception powers could be considered classic synesthesia and what you are asking about, discernment powers as part of this kind of mental merging, would be covered under the larger umbrella of synomnia.



2. eople Pool training includes all sub-methodologies within it. This includes two major ones you should be familiar with right away which are Celebification and Alchemy Immersion. Celebification is the one that most have been concentrating on and it is very important but so Alchemy Immersion.

A common issue when people start learning to Mojo Read is how to get enough exposure to the signals. Celebification is not actually intended for that kind of immersion. Many beginners want to have their family, friends, teaches and colleagues read and wonder if this is something we can do and if there is an ethical issue with this. This is fine as long as some caveats are understood.

Not everyone can be in the field with us here to go to cafes and other public places to drink in the cues while being having what their Mojos are confirmed for you. Pod'Lair Theory advocates Human Watching as a noble past-time. As Coach says 'If you can look at birds in the environment and name them by sight then you can do the same with humans. The non-verbal physiological language is there to be noted. It has been specifically put there in us and for us to be noted by our fellow humans.'

The special specific sub-portion of Alchemy Immersion that involves people you know very well and make up your personal life bubble is called Personal People Pool training.

This takes effort for us Interns so we do this sometimes and it is something that we only have time to do for Members. If you are at Member status this is something we can do for you. Please know that these are soft reads and not official in any way, for that they need to submit their own video and preferably video.

However, this is a value added that helps people get their feet wet and we are glad to provide it as long as the caveats have been understood. This is an integral part of Pod'Lair training which is different than the other kind of People Pool training called Celebification.

Celebification is to give a universal platform of samples for humans to discourse from, similar to legal briefs and precedents. However, total immersion is of great importance as well since Mojo Reading is learning to understand a kind of language, albeit a non-verbal physiological one.

With that said, feel free to send media of people you would like to be soft-read by the interns and we will see what we can do with it.


3.
This thread is to answer questions about the definitions of the various unique terminology of the Pod'Lair Lexicon. As an introduction, it may be helpful by answering a question that gets asked very often by new Pod'Lair Practitioners and that is 'why are the names of new terms so funny sounding and why are there so many funny sounding words?'. Here is the answer I have come to after fielding this line of questioning on a regular basis:

1) Thomas Chenault, ie //(:+:)Y Coach, is a genius of the highest order and as is often the case, notably with Nai'xyy, his psyche gives him his breakthroughs in a fantastical way that he then uses his Zai to gleen logical principles for all to use. However this process at its beginning (Nai-w/Xyy) is very artistic, even spiritual, and therefore he must honor his Synomnia (technical term) or Spirit Forms (spiritual term) so that this process continues to flow. Coach's synomnia is very attached to comics, movies, role-playing games and science-fantasy so this is how it comes to him and it is the physical form that will be the look, feel and branding of Pod'Lair so that this connection remains ever conducive.

2) In order for Pod'Lair Theory to achieve the goals that Coach has intended, it will need to be a pop culture phenomenon and not a distancing kind of academia. These strange words are easy to use as street lingo that distinguishes a people who have a special way from others. Those who train in Pod'Lair will have demonstrable advantages over other humans and there will be a culture that goes with it.

3) As is the way of great Nai Alpha, the Nai of Coach exceeds the understanding of anything that has come before, to such an extend that new words are needed to be created in order to encapsulate these new known things that were before unknown. Like when you find new animals or cosmic phenomenon, it must be named as it is a new thing in the world, at least as far as other humans being aware of it.

4) Continuing on that theme, there is a human tendency to grandfather in old ways of thinking without knowing it and language is often the primary conduit of this. Nai Alpha are often obsessed with the power of information and non-information as well as with the power that comes with the naming of a thing that was always there but was unknown, misunderstood, undefined and unnamed before. Nai Alpha take great pleasure in being the individual that finds or does something that requires new words and standards to be set. It has to do with the greatness obsession that Nai Alpha come born with whether they know it or not.

5) The Spirit Forms of Thomas Chenault do not want any ethno-centric issues to be a problem when Natural Law and the humans it made are not built this way. They are one species, one tribe. In order to achieve a universal language, the words for these breakthroughs are being given what he calls 'future elf'-style names :) We have become fond of this vibe and my Xai hopes you will as well. This way there is no preference to any culture of humans. No memes have tainted what should be pure truth between humans.

Once you make a theory inherently codified in French, English, Russian, etc, then it is automatically compromised. You will also be learning color associations as well as hand-signs to signal your Mojo and Pod Powers. This is so that a Pod'Lair from any culture can visit any Pod'Lair campus (in the future when we get investors) and be able to navigate it very well because of the color-coding language that is universal to all humans and how we work. These Pod'Lair visitors could also greet each other with hand-signs that are based on human Mojo cognitive configuration so that they can have intimate psyche rapport with another Pod'Lair although they don't speak two words of the same meme language.

That last part makes my Xai feel all warm and fuzzy inside :)

4. Thomas hasn't gotten around to grading this list the Interns compiled yet but it is at least 85%+ clean. There are a few errors to be noted however. //(:+:)Y actually spotted an area of difficulty we have been having and that is filling in the Zai'nyy Females. Trying to find representatives for them in the public awareness proved problematic. In the end, it turns out than when we checked our work Ayn Rand and Uma Thurman are both Nai'xyy. Christina Ricci is also not Zai'nyy and is confirmed as actually a Nyy'zai.

The updated list will be available once Thomas gets a chance to check them all. I don't anticipate many, if any, other errors than that. This does bring up the issue of having famous faces to put to this elusive Gender Mojo. When I told Thomas about this he said to put a bounty out for it. In the Practitioner Progression there is a level for Mojo Journalism. One of the tasks in order to progress to this level is to get 'scoops' relevant to Mojo enthusiasts like ourselves. I have been told that some advanced credit towards completion of this level can be earned now if anyone can bring in samples of Zai'nyy Females.

Happy Hunting.

5. This is Part 1 of this series.

In Pod’Lair Theory, every attempt is made to both induce masterful use of Synomnia and Spirit Forms which in turn helps develop ever greater tools for humans to see the truth of Natural Law that is already presenting itself to us if we have the appropriate instruments to learn.

One of these tools in Pod’Lair Theory is the use of the 1024-to-Infinity Lens. This is a way of looking at humans with a lens that is as close to Natural Law as possible. There are four major languages that humans use:

* Natural Law: This is the language of energy evolving. All languages are sub-dialects of this all encompassing and ever growing language. It is, and grows intrinsically with, existence itself. Natural Law is the ‘how & why’ of The Way Everything Works. It is absolute in completeness and irrefutability. It is.

* Mojo: Within the language of energy there are a multitude of major sub-dialects, such as physics and chemistry and of particular importance: biology. These are all part of energy evolving. Within biology, you have higher animal forms, notably mammals and the highest form of them, the primates. There has been no loss of the seamlessness of Natural Law during any of the interactions of these languages EXCEPT for user error of humans in doing the translations. However, this has do to with human incompetence and not that Natural Law doesn’t make sense, is incomplete or ‘fights’ with itself.

This is the language of most importance in the beginning of Pod’Lair training and in introducing Pod’Lair to the world. Mojo is the fundamental language of the human experience. It is how we understand Natural Law. IMPORTANT: Humans ability to understand Natural Law is directly, and completely, related to the instrument Natural Law gave humans to work with, which is the awesome Mojo Bio-Tech we have as our innate gifts being humans. Go us!

* Spirit Forms: Spirit Forms deal with the warp speed part of the bio-tech humans came with. If they can’t do impulse power stuff (conscious powers) correctly the last thing they want to do is talk with their Spirits to much because their Spirits will be beating on them for sure. If you are not doing your conscious powers correctly, you can be sure that your unconscious powers, which KNOW how you were built to be, will be most displeased with you. I have found that talking to people about Spirit Forms, although it is my preferred medium to discourse in, is not a good idea until they have Mojo understanding because all learning will be lost often due to the freak out factor. First know what your ship design is. Then practice taking the ship out faster and further. Then Spirit Forms flow from there.

* Memes: Yes, this is the tricky one. It should be ranked as the subordinate of the three other languages because Natural Law made us with Spirit Form Storyline bio-tech which informs on all pod powers which of course includes the four conscious ones a human can more easily associate with themselves and that should be in charge of the way the world is set up (memes). This unfortunately is not the case. Memes are often held as the highest language that trumps the others, even Natural Law sometimes. Memes are very important but they can be used very badly as well and that is how the state of things are now, on a global scale.

The 1024-to-Infinity Lens is a way of seeing every human you will ever encounter as part of an epic heroic story that includes you and every other human. This is needed to lay over any dialogue or discourse between humans because if not the basic premise of productive harmony of all humans is lost. What is that premise? That we are all part of one tribe. One people. There are no ‘those’ people. We are all the people. Once you learn enough of the Pod’Lair theory and have enough practical ability in Mojo reading, there is no question that this way of looking at humans is the way Natural Law is doing things. All other thought that humans have on any issue comes after the Natural Law which made all the humans and the issues that preoccupy them.

How does the 1024 Infinity Lens work? It is a series of numbers that are important to understand so you always have noble context with which to understand your fellow human. There are no ‘labels’ in this lens. It is simply a structural breakdown of the glorious geometry and infinite variation that makes up the human species. This is a way to honor, not label, your fellow human the way you would want to honor any creature that Natural Law made, particularly those that are of closest relation to you. All humans are as closely related as family. First I will go over the 1024 first and then explain how the Infinity part comes into it.

* The Number 1: The first number is One. There is only one Tribe of Humanity and we are all in it. This tribe was made by the greatest force there is, which is Natural Law, and with this force have been taken to the pinnacle of energetic evolution that we are aware of. To say anything different is spiritually offensive to Natural Law. Natural Law does not like when you dismiss gravity or evaporation or anything else it made. Natural Law made all humans so all humans are inherently beautiful and valuable. Period.

* The Number 2: However, in order to honor each human, we must go further than just knowing we all are in this grand journey together. There needs to be more nuance because Natural Law made us with incredible heroic specializations that we were designed to acknowledge and cultivate in ourselves and others. In order to do this, recognizing a person’s innate Mojo is the first and absolutely essential part of that noble process. Off all the specialization features that the various humans have, the most profound is that between those who favor Left-Brain functioning natively, Directives, and those who favor Right-Brain functioning natively, Adaptives. The Directive Powers, and the inherent Spirit Form Storyline that goes with it, are actually part of a complete eight power story that includes Adaptive powers, and vice versa. All humans must learn to love this alien but intended latent genius in themselves as this other half of the story is in the unconscious. Humans must learn to love this part of themselves so they can learn to love all humans. Neither the Directives nor Adaptives should feel superior to the other, as they are both necessary and both actually exist in each others’ minds anyway.

On the other hand, there should not be an attempt to trait ‘all Mojos as equal’ in a homogenized way, because we simply are not built the same and should not be treated as such. Natural Law did not design us to be treated differently than it built us. If a human does this it is a fast train to metaphysical, and often physical, pain and distress. There is no reason for humans to do this to one another. Natural Law does not dole out Utopias and I am not suggesting such a thing BUT it does create humans with special gifts and gave humans the innate bio-tech to read what these are in themselves and others. And yes, Natural Law expects you to use the gifts it gave humans wisely.

The Number 4: All humans use all quadrants of the psyche, but the one they are native to orients their entire understanding of existence. Of particular note is that this effects what they consider to be Truth. Like the metaphor of eight blind men holding an elephant and from what they are touching exclaiming ‘I have found Truth and it is this!’ This relates to the alien and fetish-like character that comes with the conscious powers that are in the Polar Position. Humans must understand the design principles of themselves are the same design principles of other humans but applied to a different sequence of the eight powers all humans have. All humans have the same innate math with different evolved variables.

Technically, all humans also have the same meme-math as well, but the variables are not innately evolved. Understanding that the way you feel about your Source and Polar Powers, for example, is the same for other humans but with which is the wheelhouse power and which is the fetish power being flipped, this is crucial in developing oneself as a human being. This will inevitably lead to collections of developed human beings if an intentional community with this as part of its meme. Pod’Lair Brand has those intentions to be sure.

* The Number 8: To further expand how your math is the same as other humans but the variables make for radically different understandings of existence we need to talk about all the eight powers. If you can get your head around the mind-trippy idea that your Polar Power is another human’s Source Polar and this makes them heroic and happy, you are making good progress but we need to keep going. These kinds of understandings are not easy to see or accept but they are the truth of things and humans will feel and give pain in direct proportion to lack of understanding The Truth which is Natural Law. How does this work? Well, for myself as a Nai’xyy it takes constant effort to be cool with the realm of Objective Perception. My conscious power is Vyy which can be quite vexing to me so it takes the Nyy of my Uthur to help make this alien realm appealing and non-hostile. This makes sense obviously but what surprises some people is that although the Polar is quite vexing in a conscious way, what is even more vexing, often in more unconscious ways, is what we call the Super Polar or the Polar of your Uthur, your 8th ranked power in either Basic or Advanced Peak Pathways.

For me this would be Vai. Some people tend to think this would be more appealing to Nai than Vyy is but this is not the energetic principle of things. Vyy is the most DISCTRACTING/THREATENING power of the psyche for Nai but Vai is more problematic exactly because it is in the same quadrant as Nai. Vai is a competing power for the role of Worldview Map. If Vyy is painfully distracting then Vai is outright adversarial in a way towards Nai. When Vyy modulates Nai then Nai has to take a forced time out and go to its room, but it does not lose its ranking as Worldview Map. When Vai asserts itself over Nai it is not to make it retreat back to its native quadrant but to take that quadrant over. This is why the other power that answers the same priority as your Source Power/1st Con./1st Uncon is always the Super Polar/8th Con/8th Uncon.

This will take work to understand other humans as well because just as Vai is seen as threatening to Nai in the psyche of a Nai’xyy, due to its total countering to the goals of Nai, it is very easy for a Nai’xyy to transfer this hardwired association that is very applicable to the math of themselves in their head to the math of all encounters with all other humans. It takes Quasi State to hold in my mind the equal truths of the awesomeness and importance of Nai’xyy, which has as a storyline element Nai being the most heroic power, while at the same time understanding that the storylines that have Vai as the most heroic element are equally valid and actually occupy different swathes of the same all-encompassing epic story of the Human Tribe.

This however something that I need to do on a regular basis or my thinking will become too Nai-centric as all Source Powers are prone to do if not developed and introduced to the other powers properly. Even if I do not spend as much time with Vai Alpha because they are not in as many Social Alchemy groupings with me as some other Mojos are, I still must acknowledge the heroism of their story and give it the honor and venues it deserves, as if I was doing it for Nai. Whatever honoring I do for Nai, I must accept that the other seven powers are as deserving in their way.

The Number 16: There are sixteen different Mojo Designs and this means there at least sixteen different heroic storylines. It is crucial to understanding other humans that they have an innate heroic script in them and they need to honor it. As a Nai’xyy, I find an easy rapport usually with Nai’xyy and Nai’zyy. One thing that I need to watch out for though, and many Nai’xyy get this wrong, is trying to treat Nai’zyy like Nai’xyy just because they are so close in configuration. However, their story is based on Nai with Zyy and if Values-Based things are to come into play it will be consciously with Xai. This means that when I deal with my Nai’zyy I should use more Zai than is native for me and need to curb the intense interplay of Xyy that would be extreme for the Nai’zyy but not Nai’xyy. This can be taxing sometimes and if I am not alert in spirit there is a natural tendency to revert to the energy language exchange that is ‘best for you’.

However when I am with my Nai’xyy and Nai’zyy friends, it becomes about what is best for Nai Alpha. Natural Law provided us with heroic roles for this as well but we must know that it is there and exert effort of will to play our role well. With Nai’zyy this is relatively easy and is why everyone, after the Inspirational, needs to learn how to play, work and hang with your Same Source Partner. This effort of will is relatively easy and the payoff is big. Other Social Alchemies work on the same principle but not with the same return on investment of the Inspiration and Augmentation relationships. ALL Social Alchemies have a useful and valuable return on energetic investment but some are harder to do and are more particular in the application. Only by understanding that there are sixteen storylines in one epic does all the math of humans, and thus yourself, make sense.

* The Number 32: It is important to have a good foundation in understanding how humans’ Pod Powers and Mojos combine to make sophisticated heroic storylines which inform on and empower our lives. With the number 32, this understanding will be taken to a more nuanced level. With my Nai’zyy friends, I must attend to the fact that we are playing in the same game-world environment as far as the Natural Law of it, but for all intents and purposes we are actually, due to our configurations, playing two different video games we call our lives and existence. This is because my Nai-flavored-with-Xyy vision is how I take everything in and define it so this creates my ‘world’ as I know it as opposed to Nai-flavored-with-Zyy of the Nai’zyy. Even when I talk to my Nai’zyy peeps for hours and hours on a subject to the point that you would think that we had found the SAME Natural Law together but we did not. My logical understanding grew as my Zai was applied which matured the vintage of my Nai-w/Xyy whereas Nai’zyy apply the ethics implied by Xai to mature their vintage which. We both have Zai but mine is ME just a me I don’t like to do as often as my top two. For the Nai’zyy the feel Zai as a stronger force than I do but as a stronger unconscious force. This relationship never changes it just is more or less developed. When a Nai’xyy fully captures truth all the way back to Super Polar Vai and so does Nai’zyy, they have not found the ‘same’ truth because they read truth with a different instrument.

I needed to set that scene because it is of supreme importance in understanding why we use the X or Y at the end of Mojos to distinguish gender. Both of my parents are Nai’xyy and although they share the basic design configuration of pod powers, it does not extend to the entirety of the story script. A Nai’xyy male has Nyy’xai female as his unconscious genius. Therefore the storyline script for a Nai’xyy has Nai’xyy males and Nyy’xai females as the apex of heroic achievement. This is not just the N’xez Storyline but the Hem-Hur N’xez Storyline, as opposed to the Hur-Hem N’xez Storyline which reverses who is the Adaptive and who is the Directive. This is proper and good as Natural Law intended, as long as we are able to see that our heroic story dove-tails into the heroic stories of all other humans into one heroic story for humans as one people. When I enter a room, or read a book, or listen to a conversation, or anything really, my psyche at its highest levels of conscious and unconscious authority is looking for mysteries, dangers and opportunities that are energetically applicable to the Hem-Hur N’xez and thus most relevant to my energetic experience, understanding and performance. In short, my ability to honor my story, and through it the other storylines in order of Social Alchemy intimacy, is THE defining element of my existence.

A Nai’xyy female is going to be looking for different heroic and dangerous things even though wired the same as far as pod power ranking. She is going to want to know above all things, whether she knows it or not, where are the dangers, opportunities and mysteries that are relevant to me. This will include who are the Nai Alpha women in the environment and how do they act. Am I to play mentee, mentor or colleague? How are the Nai Alpha women being treated? Where are the Nyy’xai men? Are they being treated as the most valuable thing in the world? Is there any who would dare to think they have more innate heroic merit than a Nai’xyy female? Why aren’t the advantages of being Nai’xyy and female being touted? They give an edge over the men don’t you know. This isn’t true of course and neither are the men superior in any way but it is RIGHT TO THINK SO TO A DEGREE. It is not good for me to think of myself as superior to different Mojos than me as a way to demean them but it is good when I walk up to the high energy moments of life to feel like I have THE SHIP to have in this adventure we call life. I wouldn’t want any other ship than mine come what may. To do this I must put the needs and wants of the Hem-Hur N’xez above all other storylines. Doing anything else to insult Natural Law and the storyline that is you and your greatest gift.

This is not to become vampiric, villainous or in any other way toxic. It is the same way as saying ‘I love all humans but I must put the needs and wants of my family first’. Putting the needs of your storyline first and then rocking it so much that you can integrate your storyline with all the storylines once you get developed enough is the way humans were designed to work in heroic productive harmony. Think of it as getting up from the table to go get something to drink or eat from the buffet. If you are needing food then you should get your food. If there is plenty of food you might think about taking some back with you to share but you only carry so much, so who do you put on the ‘gets food first’ list? It would be your lover most likely which if all is going well is one of your Inspirational Trio in human form. This human form of your Spirit Form Uthur will be Genderized. I have more interest in bringing back food for a Nyy’xai lady than I do for a Nyy’xai dude. This is just an energetic fact. It doesn’t matter if it is a little girl, a woman or an elderly Nyy’xai female, it gives me more energetic return to do this for a female Nyy’xai than a male. This isn’t something I have a say about or can ‘fix’ or anything of the sort. It is the way humans were built and we are the best thing going.

The Number 64: This begs the follow up question of what if they are gay instead of straight? It means that the person’s storyline was generated by Natural Law in a repeating way which means it is part of the one great epic human story like everyone else. However, it also means that they energetically do not have the same heroic storyline as the same Mojo that is straight. Just like female Nai’xyy are more concerned about the validation and situation of Nai’xyy females than males, a gay Nai’xyy is going to care more energetically about those Mojos who occupy the same leading role space, which will be Mojos just like them in configuration, gender and sexual orientation. Also they will care more about the situation of the most energetically relevant thing in the world to them other than themselves which is their Inspirational Uthur in human form.

Before this sounds like it is all about sex, sex, sex please note that it does not need to be human form in order to engage the deep powers of the Uthur. The Uthur, or unconscious genius, is engaged any time something of interest to this autonomous being comes into your world. Lets say I am watching the interaction of a piston going through a pipeline. My Spirits will naturally apply pod power metaphors to it as all humans do whether they know it or not. When this happens, I will be the piston and my Uthur will be the pipeline. This is a crude sexual metaphor I know but it is to highlight how the connection to your Uthur is ALWAYS in play. My Uthur is female AND adaptive. Nai’xyy females are female AND directive. This effects the way they look at everything including something like this but also they way a tour is organized, they way a culture does a thing, etc. This is why double pairings of the same Mojo as mates seems smart to some people but we aren’t built like that. To honor a human you must understand and appreciate how they are built and what this means for them energetically. To be friends with a Nai’xyy gay male I need to recognize he is looking for heroic mountains to climb as a Nai’xyy gay male and also for the greatest reward for these heroic efforts which would be a Nyy’xai gay male or a life that pleases the Nyy’xai gay male unconscious genius within him. To honor another human I must not impose my storyline on them, which all humans will do unconsciously if they aren’t very aware of the nuances of the different storylines.

We do not put a symbol at the end of the Mojos to show whether a person is gay or straight but these symbols do exist as it will be appealing to people when Pod’Lair Brand reaches the demographic size to make dating sites a desired service. These go after the gender and are optional to show, but they are there. There is a great deal more nuance to the spectrum of sexual orientation but I will talk about that at the end under ‘Infinity’.

* The Number 512: There are eight major age phases that humans go through which is 0-6, 6-12, 12-20, 20-35, 35-50, 50-65, 65-80 and 80+. When you multiply the eight age phases by the 64 Full Storylines, you have 512 facets. Each age has physiological changes that fundamentally effects the storyline of a human. Again, it is human nature to deal with the total storyline of humans from the age phase you are in. It is also human nature to not realize that what they are going through is often to do with Mojo x Age issues. So it is important to know your own age phase and also to know that of others with the idea of how relevant this context is. This is not ageism, as Pod’Lair believes is venerating the elders of the tribe, but instead is honoring the stage of the journey they are on.

* The Number 1024: Each of these 512 facets can be in a state of Flowing or being Lock-Up. When dealing with a Mojo it is important to understand if you are dealing with good or toxic energy coming from a given design. Is the keening healthy or unhealthy. This is crucial in knowing how to, or if to, interact with the multitude of humans that are running around our fair planet. 1024 may seem like a lot of facets but it is an elegantly small number when you compare it to the nearly 7 billion people currently on Earth. That is roughly 7 million per facet. In fact, the ‘Infinity’ was put in to allow for all humans and their incredibly nuance while not going over 1k for initial facets. Humans are going to whine about that enough as it is :)

TO INFINITY

Going over 1000 facets for a lens people can use day-to-day is not a good idea. This doesn’t mean there are only 1024 facets, not by a long shot. First of all the word Infinity means that there is infinite variation within each facet so that no two are ever the same.

There are some notable aspects to the Infinity part that need special mention:

Age phases: The later age phases are broken into roughly 15 year increments as is appropriate for the physiological and psychological changes that occur. However, the eighth stage is 80+ but humans are steadily increasing in life span so that in the future there will need to be a 9th age stage created and beyond. This 1024 Infinity Lens will suffice for now but it can always be expanded out from its basic premise.

Flowing or Locked Up: This was treated as a binary but obviously this is as complex and varied as human experience itself. Instead of trying to account for all that variation in what should be a simple lens, the binary principle gives the important context for ‘current state of being’ without bloating the lens design.

Sexual orientation: As mentioned above, sexual orientation is a spectrum with most people being heavily weighted more to one side than the other. All sexual orientations of human are part of the heroic story of humans as it is part of the unfolding of Natural Law. Sexual orientation is noted in order to honor never to discriminate. Like the health/toxicity of energy, sexual orientation has so much complexity that the only solution to keep the lens design tight was to use a binary coding that implies an incredibly complex and nuanced spectrum.

Sexual gender: There are humans who come into this world as mixed gender and there are those who are transgender. First off, all humans are beautiful, powerful and valuable. Any variation on humans is just a variation of the heroic human story. There will also be private alchemic symbols to express these variation but my Spirits tell me that is something that should be left up to that demographic when they become interested in Pod’Lair so that it grooves with their sensibilities.

This falls in line with why my Spirits want Temples for all Mojos, including all combinations and variations, so that their storylines can be given a place of honor and teach the rest about their heroic natures. On the sensitive subject of willfully choosing to change your gender, this must be distilled to this: Is it an act of self-love or self-hate? If a human knows themselves very well, then if their Spirits tell them that is something they must do, then Pod’Lair Theory accommodates that. However, any modification of yourself that effects the core storyline must only be undertaken after rigorous self exploration.

Interns, please answer follow up questions for the Guests. Thank you.

Hello world, the name is Chenault. Thomas Chenault. Omni Theorist and Life Coach Extraordinaire, at your service.


5. Pod’Lair Practitioner Progression: Pod’Lair Theory can be learned in any order that interests as student as all roads lead to Natural Law. However, the most efficient way to see and move throughout the vastness of Pod’Lair theory, which includes all human experience and understanding, is to get in touch with your innate connection to pure Natural Law: Synomnia. The Pod’Lair Practitioner Progression is designed with that goal in mind. Guests and members, you will find that a great majority of your questions about to proceed will answer themselves as you diligently train yourself up this synomniastic progression of activation, cultivation and integration.

Level 1: Pod Powers Introduction. My interns will have to put up this study guide document but it is completed and ready for your use. In order to get credit for passing level 1, you will need to recite the information in this document. You will need to do this on camera and…blind-folded. When you post this for the interns to watch and confirm you will be promoted for Level 0 to Level 1. Go you! The study guide, as all of the study guides, is color-coded to help personalize it to your Mojo where appropriate and also to connect as many senses as possible. The touching of the head with the correct hand sign that is called for, as well as doing it with your eyes closed, will help to begin the process of synergizing the information and what it means.

Level 2: Pod Powers Extended. The theme continues as the Pod Powers are fleshed in significant detail. Again, to get credit the information must be recited with your eyes closed and using appropriate hand-to-head gestures while on camera. The stress of the camera being on you is not a bad thing in this case. Controlled stressors are very beneficial to inducing synomnia. Most of your synomnia that you currently posses comes from intense, foreign and immersive experiences you have had. You are now going to update your psyche and you want this to hold firm and wide in you. The descriptions are the same for all the powers for each of the Mojos but they are organized in the order of your Mojo and they have compound (Source & Tandem) color-coding so that your mind gets used to seeing the math in this way. These will be longer so each power can be filmed separately with 1/8 credit for each. Once you do all eight, with your film confirmed by the interns, you are now Level 2. Yay! The first synomnia you will feel is as you start to notice the difference in the compounds, how you are fundamentally wired differently. This is best done by comparing and contrasting the color-coding of the powers from yourself and your Same Source Partner.

Ex: Nai’xyy and Nai’zyy. As a Nai’xyy, when I use my powers, they are ALWAYS coming from this alchemic combination of compounds:
1) Nai flavored with Xyy for Primary Momentum
2) Xyy flavored with Nai for Secondary Momentum
3) Zai flavored with Vyy for Minor Modulation
4) Vyy flavored with Zai for Major Modulation
5-6) Nyy flavored with Xai into Xai flavored with Nyy for Initial Inspiration Wave
7-8) Zyy flavored with Vai & Vai flavored with Zyy for Extended Inspiration Wave

As opposed to the Nai’zyy, who although has many similarities is different AT EVERY POINT OF THE POND:
1) Nai flavored with Zyy for Primary Momentum
2) Zyy flavored with Nai for Secondary Momentum
3) Xai flavored with Vyy for Minor Modulation
4) Vyy flavored with Xai for Major Modulation
5-6) Nyy flavored with Zai into Zai flavored with Nyy for Initial Inspiration Wave
7-8) Xyy flavored with Vai into Vai flavored with Xyy for Extended Inspiration Wave

So when we say that both Nai Alpha have Major Modulation of Vyy that is only correct at a broad stroke. More precisely, the Nai’xyy has Major Modulation of Vyy-flavored-with-Zai and the Nai’zyy has Major Modulation of Vyy-flavored-with-Xai. If this daunts you, know this: Your synomnia is like a zip drive of truth. If it is truthful, such as the physiological cues a configuration is giving off, then your synomnia will pick it up and give you feedback on how to play without you being able to, or needing to, understand the process. You don’t try to over think things when your ship goes into warp drive, it just makes your head hurt. Being dead on with your ship integrity and your warp coordinates IS something you want to think about a great deal consciously. You will want to make sure that you understand every line of the spec sheets for the eight powers. These are the fundamental building blocks of your synomnia. When you film yourself reciting them, you want to be able to do it eyes closed and knowing what every single last word of what you are saying actually means. This is a kind of psychic prayer, or at least portions of one.

Level 3: Mojo Power Flow. The powers are like gears in a clock that is your psyche. Each of the gears has a power flow but so does the entire clock or Mojo. There are 100 power flow abilities that each of the Mojo configurations has. It is crucial that you understand every one of your powers and what it means. It is much easier to reach out for something in yourself if you can define it. You have something to aim for and a place to film energy experiences as you have them. You can place all of your psychic processes in the context of these 100 power flow abilities which forms the prayer to your own psyche that can be recited in a cyclical fashion as the 100th ability leads you directly back to your first. Credit is gained per usual.

Level 4: Mojo Cue Conflagrations. At this point, you are ready to start adding the physiological cues to your synomnia. This doesn’t mean that you can’t learn this sooner or that you can’t start working on your reading score before. This is simply where you would stack this synomniastic language in the multitude of layers that synomnia merges together. If you know the powers, then the Mojos makes sense and if they make sense, then understanding and indentifying the physiological manifestations that they cause will be easier. Credit for progression is earned per usual.

Level 5: People Pool Swimming. Once you have the vocabulary of the cues merged into your mind, then you are ready to read novels, or people as it were. When you first look at people faces and mannerisms, there is so much going on it is like being dropped into the middle of a full speed, full force conversation of a language foreign to you. Learning the pod powers and Mojos is like learning the grammar and fundamental structure of the language. The physiological cues are like the vocabulary of this language. You would want to have this basic knowledge before trying to tackle your first book.

However, once you have this basic understanding continuing on in that vein is not the most productive way, you want to increase immersion. The student is now ready for taking in media and trying to grasp the fundamentals they have learned, such as watching movies, reading books or vacationing in the country of the language you are learning. To be promoted to this level, you will need to recite 200 celebrities. These celebrities can be the ones already put up by the interns or ones of your own choosing. However, all 32 Gender Mojos must be represented by at least 3 samples, your eyes must be closed and you must use the appropriate hand signs for the Mojo of the person being named.

More details for the remaining levels of progression will be forthcoming as the guests and members move along in the curriculum. Here are the intended level topics:
Level 6: Basic Peak Pathway.
Level 7: Story Power Flow
Level 8: Herography/Advanced Peak Pathway
Level 9: Theory Overview
Level 10: Pitching Pod’Lair
Level 11: Debating Principles
Level 12: Mojo Journalism
Level 13: Recruiting/Bubble Building
Level 14: Mentoring
Level 15: Outpost Organizing

While this is going on, you will want to continue to train your Mojo Reading as diligently as you can. Another post will be coming next to give information about having your Mojo Reading ability evaluated. These provide five bonus levels, that can be earned anytime, for when your Mojo Reading score reaches the following level of proficiency:
Level +1: Mojo Reading Accuracy 80%
Level +2: Mojo Reading Accuracy 85%
Level +3: Mojo Reading Accuracy 90%
Level +4: Mojo Reading Accuracy 95%
Level +5: Mojo Reading Accuracy 100%

6. They have induction rituals, but you need an account to see that.

Hi everyone,

Nai'xyy Coach and Zai'nyy Jonathan have filmed Demos for the Ritual Requirement to progress to Level 1 as a Pod'Lair Practitioner. Take a look at them here after the study guides. This is the first step to unlocking your Synomnia!

Once you think you can do it, just film your own ritual video. You can send it to us privately to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or you can post it publicly as a reply to this thread if you want to help others learn and show off your new Synomnia skills. Or as Coach (Thomas) calls it sometimes Mojo-Fu of You :)

Expect mine and Nyxyia coming up soon!



7. Thanks to Kento's contribution we now have our first Student submitted people pool training sample. He instinctually has asked good questions about how his Mojo is being read, the kind of questions that others will be asking and will be interested in having answered as well.
This Embassy is going to be for all of the guests to drink in other Mojo Designs, ask questions, and give feedback on themselves. As the questions come up the interns will answer them to help recalibrate your lenses as needed. The whole point of people pool training is to drink in new models of different Mojo configurations and calibrate your lenses accordingly, so having other members like yourselves contribute your own interviews to this thread for the purposes of People Pool training yourselves and others would be invaluable for all.

In this video, am I speaking slow because I'm using Zai a lot (and can I improve how I'm using it? Is it underdeveloped)? I noticed I'm doing a lot of severe right checks and giving nervous & introverting cues (arms squeezed near the body, hands touching the face and hiding the mouth); I thought maybe I'm using Zai more because I'm "performing" to a more logical system (a video recording), rather than to to an emotional system (like in conversation with someone else), so I'm using more Zai than Xyy to make sure I'm saying things that makes more sense universally, rather than just to the people I'm talking to directly at the time. I've noticed one of the frustrations I have with talking on camera is that I can't cater my conversation to someone in particular, like I can in a conversation. I think for the same reason, I preferred more one-on-one when I was younger, but I've gotten more used to using Vyy and doing some kind of pretend-Nyy (not sure what, but something that seems to cater to other people's Nyys) in a group situation (along with Xyy) to have the same level of impact & influence in a group situation.

What is causing, pod-power-wise, my rocking motions in the video (other than things like nervousness)? I know I like to move around in general, especially in conversation, it helps get my mind going...but I was wondering if there was a Pod'lair reason for this too. For example, do I engage my Vyy more when I move around so that I'm able to use objective powers like Xyy more easily? Or is this more of a Nai "tick" of some sort?

Generally, when I'm "wincing" or squinting my eyes, is that Xyy expression?

How present is my Xyy use in this video? I notice my face looks "weirder" and less meant to be "aesthetic expressions" when I severely go into Nai, but a lot of the time my face is in enough of a smile for there to be creases on my face. I can see there's "sillier" smiles (for example around 9:08 before I look down) and more "aesthetically intended" smiles, are there pod power correlations to this? For example, if the sillier smile is more of an authentic smile, is this something other than Xyy (like Nai is affecting the expression), or is it Xyy intending to have more of a "silly" influence? I'm wondering this especially since it seems to happen a lot when I'm introverting (especially into Nai) and using aware mouth at the same time; a lot of facial and cheek creases.

2:13 - I use this ridiculous gesture when referring to "dream" where it looks like my eyes, my hands and the rest of my face go upward to represent "dream" as something in my head..is it coincidence that I instinctively gestured like this? I mean, is this a characteristic of a pod power use - such as Vyy manifestation of Nai?

2:44 - when talking about the loop shape of the JR line, both my gesture and my eye movements line up to make a circular motion - is this some kind of Vyy reliving? (manifesting the shape of what I'm thinking about) or is it something else?

5:06 I can really see around here that I am using yang gestures - why does it also look like I'm suddenly getting more confident and sure of myself? Is this just a mode of the Xyy expression? Or is something else happening?

Is the suddenly high-pitched words I say just a natural trait of Xyy or having Xez higher up in my powers? Or is it just my accent?

Also, I can see that I'm moving my eyes around when trying to remember things, sometimes in a "several functions" way, but a lot of times, in a Vyy way; if I'm moving around like that on the right and it's not Zai, is it pretty consistently Vyy?


1) Able to talk for hours and hours and can be extremely, seen as overly by some, focuses on a topic. However, maintaining a normal conversation without feedback is difficult.

2) Need for freedom. Nai'xyy often like the freedom of the outdoors, but this is usually a retreat where they feel safe and have access to the kind of learning and info they want. Otherwise, urban living is preferred so the 'freedom' of access to things for the Nai to consume and ponder. Suburbs are confining because they don't offer the sanctuary and do-what-you-want quality of the true outdoors as there are people around while other the other hand not having the mental freedom of intellectual stimulation of the metropolis.

3) Cars are unnerving. Nai'xyy are well ranked in high level race car driving as well. Thomas is good at car games and driving tactically better than most people, but he hates driving. He can't drift into his Nai and he has to constantly worry that he will without realizing it and be distracted into an accident. When he, or any Nai'xyy who has taken car driving as a Vyy fetish skill, focuses they can be amazing but staying focused on Vyy/Zyy stuff is not of interest to the psyche.

4) Nai Alpha, more markedly with the Nai'xyy, have HSP issues. It is just a question of how severe and how they cope. This is often a surprise to Nai'xyy as they learn to deal with being very nervous. This can be felt as adrenaline dumps. When it goes to high levels it can cause muscle twitching similar to being very cold. Those Nai'xyy who learn to use this extreme amount of energy can do incredible things. Although many still don't like to drive cars :)

5) Your speech has a classic halting and sprinting of a Subjective Mojo.

6) The blanket of stimulus that must be fought past in automobiles is draining for many Nai'xyy as well as other activities and/or environments with the same kind of consistent high stimulus load. Nai'xyy over-stimulate easily, but this is the secret to how they do so many things so well, like reading Mojo for example. It helps to be stimulated strongly by slight amounts of energy signals.

YouTube - Why I love biking in Philly




8. Anyone who wishes to have their Mojo Reading ability evaluated may ask to take quizzes by sending an email to that effect to the Interns.

Each quiz is 10 samples with 4 points per sample available for a quiz of 40 points possible.
Each quiz you take will be averaged with those already taken up to 10. From then on, your last 10 quizzes will be averaged together to give your current rating.

You may request random samples to work with or you may provide your own. Providing your own samples is allowed up to 80% accuracy rating. After that, it must be random samples in order to score over 80%. Scores over 80% on self-provided samples will be capped at 80% for the purposes of averaged score.

The samples provided by practitioners must be 2min in length and in an interview or natural exchange format. Recitations, performances or chopped clips will be deemed insufficient. Samples provided with insufficient media will be given 0 points and averaged in with the rest of the quiz samples.

It is helpful if you provide a short bit on your thinking in reading the person as you did. This will help the interns to give the best feedback to you they can and help to point out patterns you may be missing or misinterpreting.

All samples, self or staff provided, must be kept secret in order to be allowed to continue in the Mojo Reading evaluation program. In order to deal with the influx of traffic we will expect in the future and to protect our intellectual property, we will need to keep the reading results kept off the forums so that many people can learn by guessing at the same samples over a period of time. Finding new samples to read takes time and energy for the staff.

If you earn an average of 80% or higher then you will receive bonus level credit to be added to your Pod’Lair Practitioner Progress rating. Good luck!


9.
Synesthesia is the merging of two perception modalities.

Humans are capable of merging all four of their perception modalities, conscious and unconscious.

Humans are able to merge their discernments as well. Combining all together is called Synomnia.

Perception modality mergings have more of a ride, rush or revery sensation to them.
Discernment modality merging have more of a dialogue, or even debate, quality to them.
Synomnia = Peaking = Touching Natural Law = Spiritual Experience

Pod’Lair Practitioners train to purposely induce synomnia and develop this phenomenon it themselves.

Synomnia can be thought of as warp drive speed as opposed to the impulse speed of normal thinking. Both are required to travel and discover all the universe of yourself has to offer.

Synomnia is experienced by all people already but the intensity depends on the person and their development.

Pod’Lair Temples will be designed with the purpose of activating and cultivating all the gifts of the humans who attend them. One of the greatest gifts humans have been given by Natural Law is the gift of synomnia.

10. The N’xez Inspirational Duo is made up of the Nyy’xai and Nai’xyy Mojos.

All Mojo Configurations contain all eight Psyche Powers but four of them are in the unconscious. These four unconscious powers have a ranking of priorities just as your conscious understanding of your psyche does. This unconscious configuration acts as the Unconscious Inspirational Genius (or Genie) for the various Mojos based on how they are innately wired.

This Inspirational Genius of the Unconscious therefore has an Autonomous Functionality (if not full on entity with a personality!). In a clever bit of engineering by Natural Law, this Unconscious Autonomous Inspirational Genius is manifested in the human collective in one of the other Mojo Configurations. This other configuration will have the Conscious Understanding Apparatus and Unconscious Inspirational Genius flipped around.

This creates two Mojo Configurations that are therefore quite different from one another but also supremely complimentary and validating. For the Nai'xyy Mojo the Conscious Understanding Apparatus (conscious powers) is Nai'xyy'zai'vyy and the Unconscious Inspirational Genius is Nyy'xai'zyy'vai or Nyy'xai for short. In synergistic correlation that comes from humans being the pinnacle of known energy evolution, the Nyy'xai Mojo has for its Conscious Understanding Apparatus the power configuration of Nyy'xai'zyy'vai with an Unconscious Inspirational Genius with the power configuration of Nai'xyy'zai'vyy, or Nai'xyy for short.

N'xez Compare & Contrast: Nai'xyy & Nyy'xai

CONSCIOUS POWERS - NEAR/MOMENTUM SIDE

* Source Power differences of Nyy vs. Nai: The Nai'xyy uses Nai, which are Directed Inner Visions, as its Source Power whereas the Nyy'xai uses Nyy, which are Adaptive Outer Abstractions. This means that although the two N'xez Mojos share a profoundly strong psychic connection, they are also quite different. This helps them actually to play to each others' strengths better. The Adaptive/Directive Binary Flow Duality is the most fundamental of all the human storyline dualities, and thus a complete storyline will always need to include a Directive and Adaptive balance in order to be whole, including two wholly heroic heroes. In the case of the N'xez Heroic Storyline, the Nai'xyy is the Directive Mojo and the Nyy'xai is the Adaptive Mojo. The next Binary Flow Duality is the Objective/Subjective Storyline Duality. In the case of the N'xez Heroic Storyline, the Nyy'xai is the Objective Mojo and the Nai'xyy is the Subjective Mojo. How do these powers speak to one another? Nai and Nyy operate in the Perception Corridor and utilize this pipeline to bridge between the Directive Subjective area of the psyche occupied by Nai and the Adaptive Objective area of the psyche occupied by Nyy.

* Tandem Power differences of Xai vs. Xyy: The Nai'xyy uses Xyy, which are Directed Interpersonal Dynamics, as its Tandem Power whereas the Nyy'xai uses Xai, which is Adaptive Personal Investment. This means that the Nai'xyy, with their Left-Brain Xyy, have Aware Expression and Natural Articulation & Boundary Setting whereas the Nyy'xai, with their Right-Brain Xai, have Unaware Expression, Altered State Articulation & Natural State Approachability. How do these powers speak to one another? Xyy and Xai operate in the Discernment Corridor and utilize this pipeline to bridge between the Directive Objective area of the Psyche occupied by Xyy and the Adaptive Subjective area of the psyche occupied by Xai.

CONSCIOUS POWERS - FAR/MODULATION SIDE

* Offside Power differences of Zyy vs. Zai. The Nai'xyy uses Zai, which are Adaptive Personal Logic, as its Offside Power whereas the Nyy'xai uses Zyy, which is Directive Systemic Dynamics. This means that the Nai'xyy, with their Offside Zai, have Stone Face Cheeks used as Altered State Neutralizing whereas the Nyy'xai, with their Offside Zyy, have Anvil Cheeks used as Altered State Neutralizing/Articulating. How do these powers speak to one another? Zai and Zyy operate in the Discernment Corridor and utilize this pipeline to bridge between the Adaptive Subjective area of the psyche occupied by Zai and the Directive Objective area of the psyche occupied by Zyy.

* Polar Power differences of Vai vs. Vyy. The Nai'xyy uses Vyy, which is Adaptive Visceral Experience, as its Polar Power whereas the Nyy'xai uses Vai, which are Directed Exact Memories. This means that when the N'xez concretize (process things favoring detail over pattern), the Nai'xyy does so in a more 're-living' kind of way and the Nyy'xai does so in a more 'recollection' kind of way. How do these powers speak to one another? Vyy and Vai operate in the Perception Corridor and utilize this pipeline to bridge between the Adaptive Objective area of the psyche occupied by Vyy and the Directive Subjective area of the psyche occupied by Vai.


Simplified Cues Differences & Why
* Gatherer Eyes vs. Hunter Eyes. The Nyy'xai have Gatherer Eyes because both of their top two powers, Nyy and Xai, are Adaptive in nature whereas the Nai'xyy have Hunter Eyes because both of their top two powers, Nai and Xyy, are Directive in nature.

* Unhooded Eyes vs. Hooded Eyes. The Nyy'xai have Unhooded Eyes because their Source Power (1st ranked) is Nyy, which is Objective in nature whereas the Nai'xyy have Hooded Eyes because their Source Power (1st ranked) is Nai, which is Subjective in nature.

* Syncopated Dancing Eyes vs. Syncopated Cunning Eyes. Syncopated Eyes come from a Mojo Configuration having the Interpretive Power over the Literal Power. Both of the N'xez, the Nyy'xai and Nai'xyy, have an Interpretive Power (Nai for Nai'xyy and Nyy for Nai'xyy) over their Literal Power (Vyy for Nai'xyy and Vai for Nyy'xai). However, the Nyy of the Nyy'xai gives them the Adaptive variation of Dancing Syncopated Eyes and the Nai of the Nai'xyy givesthe Directive variation of Cunning Syncopated Eyes.

* Why Perception Lead Eyes? Both of the N'xez, the Nai'xyy and Nyy'xai, have their Perception (Nai or Nyy) over their Discernment (Xyy or Xai).

* Unaware Mouth and Voice vs. Aware Mouth and Voice. The Nyy'xai use Xai as their Values-Based Power so their mouth and voice emoting are Unaware in nature with a spectrum of Earnest/Mournful. The Nai'xyy use Xyy as their Values-Based Power so their mouth and voice are Aware in nature with a spectrum of Butter/Baleful.

* Why Natural State Emoting? Both of the N'xez, the Nai'xyy and Nyy'xai, have Natural Stage Emoting because their Values-Based Power is of a higher ranking than their Logic-Based Power. In the case of the Nai'xyy this is done with their Aware Xyy Emoting whereas the Nyy'xai this is done with their Xai Unaware Emoting.

* Anvil vs. Stone Face. The Nyy'xai use Anvil Cheeks for their Neutralizing due to their Logic-Based Power of Zyy. The Nai'xyy use Stone Face Cheeks due to their Logic-Based Power of Zai.

* Why Altered State Neutralizing? For both of the X'nex, the Nai'xyy and Nyy'xai, their Logic-Based Power is lower ranked than than their Values-Based Power. For the Nai'xyy this is their Zai under Xyy and for the Nyy'xai this is their Zyy under Xai.

* Altered State Articulating vs. Natural State Articulating. The Nai'xyy have Natural State Articulation due to their Tandem (2nd rank) Power of Xyy. The Nyy'xai have Altered State Articulation due to their Offside (3rd rank) Power of Zyy.

* Natural State Approachability vs. Natural State Boundary Setting. The Nai'xyy have Natural State Boundary Setting because both of their top two powers, Nai and Xyy, are Directive in nature. The Nyy'xai have Natural Approachability because both of their top two powers, Nyy and Xai, are Adaptive in Nature.

* Altered State Boundary Setting vs. Altered State Approachability. The Nai'xy have Altered State Approachability due to their Adaptive Powers being their Offside & Polar (3rd&4th) Powers. The Nyy'xai have Altered State Boundary Setting due to their Directive Powers being their Offside & Polar (3rd&4th) Powers.

More information on how these two Mojos interact and how to access your Unconscious Inspirational Genius will be discussed in the N’xez Temple.

N’xez are awesome. This needs to be stated outright because sometimes the complex psychologies of the Nai’xyy and Nyy’xai can pose challenges in understanding themselves. Each have a complex psychology in their own right and together form one complete and extremely complex storyline of the psyche. The complexity shows itself particularly in the form of relationships and the N’xez Social Alchemy is at its core a relationship.

As stated, they are individually very complicated. Why? When it comes to human emotion and relationship the powers that are most interested in these psychic commodities are Xyy and Xai as they are the Values-Based Powers. The complexity of these relationships, or at least how they are interpreted, comes from the primary Perception Power and how it is ranked in comparison to the Values-Based Power. With the N’xez, the Perception Power is an Interpretive one (Nai or Nyy) and it is ranked as Source, above the Values-Based Power. This has the unique consequence of having human emotion and relationship be the primary Discernment but this is secondary to the patterns of Nai or Nyy. Therefore an embracing of this complexity is required for the N’xez to truly enjoy themselves. You must grasp the complexity to truly get the pleasure.

Like all Inspirationals, the two N’xez can seem quite alien to one another. This is not true and Nature trumps any ‘nurturing’ of the environment. N’xez are wired for each other. Period. However if not ready for it, the Inspirational can seem threatening and/or off-putting. Two sides of the same story can seem extremely foreign to one another. To answer why this is we really need to answer two questions:

How do they seem Different? The Nai’xyy are Directive and Subjective. Single-minded whereas the Nyy’xai are Adaptive and Objective. Diverse. The biggest difference comes from which part of the N’xez story is in the conscious Apparatus. All storylines include powers that address all four priorities but Mojos always have perspective and positions from that total storyline that seem native to it and thus ‘okay’. This is complicated in the case of the N’xez in that not only is this alchemic dynamic in play but often the N’xez do not identify strongly with their Source power due to life experience.

How are they really one story? The Nai’xyy was always going to have to take its concepts out into the open environment to see if it can live. The Nyy’xai, with their strong Nyy and Xai, are the Mojo Guide that has evolved to help the Nai’xyy achieve this. Likewise, the Nyy’xai was always going to have to take its abstractions into themselves as some form of sureness or absoluteness. The Nai’xyy, with their strong Nai and Xyy, are the Mojo Guide that has evolved to help the Nyy’xai achieve this.

Since complex skills and wisdoms are best learned tacitly, we will start with one of our favorite methods for immersive learning and that is playlisting videos. Once you have 1) a basic understanding of the theory 2) clean samples to choose from then it is time for 3) watching video samples of the Mojo, Power, Social Alchemy, Spirit Form, etc you wish to study on real life display. Just soak these in at first with no judgments being made. Seeing the dynamics and motifs unfolding will likely prompt questions in you and this is an excellent place to start a discussion on the N’xez.

With that in mind, here are some Celebrity Samples in movies that demonstrate the N’xez Social Alchemy:

** An Officer and A Gentleman - //(:+:)Y Richard Gere and ??(@)X Debra Winger. He is a slacker who joins the military in order to make something of himself, although he doesn’t believe in anything silly like teamwork. She is a town low-rent hottie who likes to have a good time but she doesn’t believe in anything silly like true love. He may be using her to get through the grueling training. She may be using him to get out of her lame town. They may also actually be in love. It’s complicated :)

** Scrubs - //(:+:)Y Zach Braf and ??(@)X Sarah Chalke. He is Dr. John ‘J.D.’ Dorian and he is an awesomely neurotic Nai’xyy mess. She is Dr. Elliot Reed and she is an awesomely neurotic Nyy’xai mess. They manage to get together and break up many times, always with great angst and humor. Everyone, even their best friends, tell them to stay away from each other. They are like two trains that can’t stop wrecking. Eventually, only about eight years or so, they realize they were meant for one another. Nobody else could deal with their neurotic natures but for them it is as if their neuroses were good friends :)

** True Romance - //(:+:)Y Christian Slater and ??(@)X Patricia Arquette. He is a slacker who as a grown man has achieved the vaunted status of comic book store employee. She is a recently turned call girl with him as a new assignment. He is so odd that the owner has taken pity on him and bought her for him but made it look like a chance meeting. They of course fall in love. He then must let the pimp drug dealer, that she is in the stable of, know that things are different. Two seconds ago he was a slacker comic book clerk and now he is telling off pimp drug dealers. Ah, Nai’xyy (shakes head). She of course thinks this is a very romantic gesture and is so smitten with her new beau that she will go with him anywhere. Ah, Nyy’xai (shakes head). Where should they go? Well they might as well sell the drugs off the drug dealer since he did end up dead during the very romantic gesture scene. Her scene when the hitman comes for her is one of the best in cinema in my humble opinion. You have to be down with Tarantino’s story style (he wrote it I believe) but if you are, then you are in for a treat! She goes from girly to Frazetta like a creature possessed. Yes, my OCD did kick in on this movie and on several scenes in it. As with many of the movies being talked about. I didn’t have a lot of friends growing up :)

** Benny and June - //(:+:)Y Johnny Depp and ??(@)X Mary Stewart Masterson. He is eccentric to put it mildly. Maybe crazy would be more accurate. Her brother seems to think that Depp is crazy. Then again she is very special to put it mildly. Maybe crazy would be more accurate. Everyone seems to think that she is crazy. The question is whether or not their ‘conditions’ help each other or make things worse. Again, young neurotics in love. Of course most N’xez watching will not see neurotics but lonely artistic souls, and they would be correct in seeing this. Great movie.

** Lady Hawke - //(:+:)Y Rutger Hauer and ??(@)X Michelle Pfeiffer. Everything was fine until that darn priest got all jealous and started throwing curses around and what not. Then things got a little crazy. Rutger is a man during the day and a wolf at night. Michelle is a woman by night and a hawk by day. They can only see glimpses of each other at dawn and dusk each day. That is until that pesky curse is nixed. What is the ritual for that now? And how will //(#)Y Matthew Broderick help them in their noble quest for non-duality? It’s complicated :)

Enjoy!

- Me :)

P.S. Feel free to ask any other questions that may be on your mind regarding the N’xez and their unique shared Heroic Story.
Hello world, the name is Chenault. Thomas Chenault. Omni Theorist and Life Coach Extraordinaire, at your service.


12. PICN PRINCIPLES

Acceptance of the following principles demonstrates your ability to recognize an unfolding scientific breakthrough, treat fellow humans with respect and play well with others, interact appropriately with highly eccentric and gifted thinkers, participate in a provocative revolutionary environment, and recognize an invaluable opportunity to become the greatest version of yourself and change the world for the benefit of all. The PICN is a powerful community of people who share these principles and welcomes similarly open-minded and heroic humans.


Fundamentals


* Everything is Energy Evolving. This is the basic premise of Pod'Lair Theory. Only through this lens does all of Natural Law make sense even as its new vistas unfold.

* Humans evolved from primates, who evolved from mammals, who evolved with the rest of the biological life on this planet. The biological evolution is connected to the chemical evolution of the planet and everything is connected at an atomic level.

* You are a Mojo Configuration. It is innate and underlies all that you know and do. This Mojo Configuration does not change into another Mojo but it does grow and grow to infinite levels of development.

* All Humans are a Mojo Configuration and part of the Human Matrix, like you.

* All Mojos were created by Natural Law and thus are equally integral and valuable to the Tribe of Humanity.

* All Humans are members of one Species, one Collective, one Tribe, one People. We are All One.

* Gender Equality is part of Natural Law. Mojos manifest relatively evenly among genders, when it comes to being Adaptive/Directive, Objective/Subjective, Interpretive/Literal and Logic-Based/Values-Based. Attitudes to the contrary are largely based on memes and do not reflect the actual manifestations of Natural Law. This is what the data is showing.

* Racial Equality is part of Natural Law. Mojo Configurations manifest universally, in all ethnicities.


* Age Equality is part of Natural Law based on the Mentorship Model.

* Sexual Orientation of all persuasions is part of Natural Law based on the Social Alchemy Model.

* Everything that humans experience is really a form of energy exchange which is done through eight specific Pod Powers of the Psyche. This means that all humans are sending and getting signals with their eight powers. Since all humans experience existence as various forms of energy exchange, the ranking of their Powers of the Psyche determines their 'reality'. All humans are working from a 'partial reality' that they share collectively with the other humans. Only with ALL the humans, and all their gifts, can the greater portion of existence be made aware to us and thus increase our understanding of truth to its highest levels.

The Intentional Community
* When you enter the PICN you are entering a campus, a community, and an ongoing collective experiment. You are there to enjoy and create this bubble with the other members. There is a pronounced MMORPG rif being used as many of the principles are incorporated to create a heroic community of humans.

* Social Alchemy bubbles exist. You are in one right now. You are always in one. Social Alchemy creates bubbles that affect every Mojo within them. Social Alchemy Bubbles can be created not only by people but also by media, locations, and artifacts. Bubbles, from individuals to nations, are what make up all the experiences humans are having in romance, career, hobbies, home, etc. Everything, and really everyone, is an Energy Bubble. This is a principle of how the PICN is set up.


* There needs to be an acceptance and respect for the concept of protected areas where different and specific Social Alchemy Mojo Bubbles can be created. These are needed for full development of an individual by allowing the various aspects of a person's gifts to be worked on when they want, and for as long as they want, in the environment ideally suited for it. The Social Alchemy Bubbles allow for at least twenty groupings in order to have constant access to bubbles as specific as just their own Gender Mojo, up to Bubbles that include the entire collective and everything in between. This is an essential part of the Pod'Lair lifestyle and inherent to its learning methodology.


Conduct/Attitudes

* You must approach this experience with the spirit of learning and growing. You will need to come to the PICN with an open mind and a dedication to the task of learning more about Pod'Lair Theory, yourself and your fellow humans.


* The measure of a person, for themselves and others, as a member of the PICN is that of the Personal Herography. Keeping this in mind for the individual keeps their heroic ideal constantly in their mind's eye, while for others it ensures that they speak to the individual in a way and on topics that will be of true interest.

* You are an Ambassador of yourself, your Mojo, and of Pod'Lair. Conduct yourself accordingly. Passionate discourse on topics is encouraged but this does not condone derogatory, uncooperative, or belligerent behavior or attitudes towards Staff, fellow PICN members, and different Mojos in general.

* Do not use any material on this site without express permission of the Pod'Lair Leadership Team. This begins at the Guest level and is accentuated in the PICN and even more so in the Special Programs, as these allow access to increasing levels of sensitivity of information.

* You will need to be comfortable with the branding being used for the company that will be pushing this theory into the world. The branding of Pod'Lair is sophisticated and considered in approach while also being provocative and ambitious in intention.


Basic Proficiency

* You need to be able to 'see it' in regards to the Mojo Configurations using the Simplified Method and Five Gears. You don't have to be perfect or even 85%+ (proficient) but you do need to have seen the phenomenon so you know it to be true in at least yourself and some other people in your life. This Proof-Of-Concept must be bridged before coming into the PICN. Discussion in the PICN Virtual Campus has this as a given.

* You need to be able to 'feel it' in regards to your individual Pod Powers. This is crucial to getting in touch with your true nature as the Mojo Configuration that you are. You don't have to be a master of your Power Flows but you do need to have felt enough of them experientially so you know them to be true in at least yourself and some other people in your life. This Proof-Of-Concept must be bridged before coming into the PICN. Discussion in the PICN Virtual Campus has this as a given.

* You need to be able to 'vibe with/against' in regards to the phenomenon of Social Alchemy Bubbles. This is crucial to understanding the power and necessity of the temple training that will be integral to learning the higher levels of Pod'Lair Theory. Not all Bubbles (there are many) need to have been experienced, but you should have observed enough to know that the phenomenon is real and it follows the principles of Social Alchemy. This Proof-Of-Concept must be bridged before coming into the PICN. Discussion in the PICN Virtual Campus has this as a given.


The Learning Model

* Pod'Lair Theory eschews the current trend in institutional learning with degrees in favor of a Mentorship and Proficiency Model of learning. This means you learn to DO A THING (even if it is conceptual) from a person who can DO A THING. Rather than formal degrees, there is an emphasis on being a good Mentee, being a good Mentor, Apprentice-to-Master skills training, performance of Mojo specific abilities, and feats of excellence demonstrations. This is how humans actually learn and prove that they have learned.



* The Merit Badge System and Portfolio System will be used a great deal as this reflects what a person can actually do or has done (similar to Microsoft Certifications as opposed to academic degrees in software). After training, humans should be able to perform the actual task they are trained for (After institutional studies they must often learn or re-learn; for example, psychologists spend 8+ years studying the human condition but are often less proficient at reading their clients than a decent sales person).


* Credentials in other fields that may have overlap are irrelevant because they fail to demonstrate the two basic qualifications for analyzing or educating fellow humans:
1) Ability to read the humans they intend to analyze or educate at 100% accuracy of their Mojo Configuration
2) Establishment of a bubble where a person can work on any and all aspects of their Mojo at various Temples & Dojos on some kind of Campus
Anyone who does not possess #1 is incompetent. We consider competent for a human to be 85% and for a teacher to be 100%.


The Pod’Lair Model

* ALL human understanding fits within the Understanding Continuum. The Understanding Continuum is how ALL humans are wired to understand and interact with their physical and metaphysical existence. This includes the Component, Concrete, Tacit, Artistic and Spiritual understandings that are all in the One Spectrum of Understanding but they are experienced differently, not unlike light waves and ultra-violet rays. So there is One Understanding understood with a variety lenses.


* The PICN is based on the premise that the One Understanding applies to all spheres such as Recreational, Commercial, Scientific, Artistic, Spiritual Spheres acting as One Sphere. There is only One Universe and One Planet Earth and One People… all of us humans together in the Tribe of Humanity.

* In the simplest of terms, Models are structures of thought, including Models Within Models. For example, Pod'Lair Theory is an Omni Model that incorporates many smaller models such as the Understanding Continuum, Mentorship Education Methodology, Five Gears of Mojo Reading, Social Alchemy, Spirit Forms, etc. ALL models of thought, from strategy to spirituality, can be evaluated according to how well it understands and interacts Natural Law. There are no opinions or positions that do not come from some kind of model of thought (even if highly singular in nature). Not all models are equal and Natural Law provides the measuring of the them.

* Pod'Lair Theory is unprecedented in scope of vision and power of concept. There are many previous theories that Pod'Lair will have overlap with. This simply means that many great thinkers have been working on similar questions that have vexed humanity for some time. Pod'Lair Theory will be correcting many previous theories as well as bringing a multitude of new fields of study into existence. This will be done with a degree and amount of irrefutable evidence that is unmatched and unending.



The Founder
* Pod'Lair Theory comes from the powerfully synesthetic mind of Thomas Chenault, who without academic degrees or professional training, is the undisputed authority on these subjects. This is demonstrated by the feats he can perform on video or in person that other humans can’t, but is his goal to teach others to do.


* Pod'Lair will be challenging ALL experts from ALL facilities around the world once the Proof-of-Concept has been sufficiently achieved. Thomas Chenault has been solving cases that top facilities around the world have been devoting resources to for the entirety of their existence without being able to solve.


* Thomas Chenault, in correlation with his unprecedented level of synesthesia, has numerous eccentricities that he wants any potential student to be aware of. You need to be able to interact with an artist and thinker who has lived with issues related to pushing his mind to the utmost in order to bring Pod’Lair theory into fruition despite, or perhaps because of, these inherent eccentricities. These include HSP, OCD, amnesia, voices, intense interactions with imaginary friends, rages, social anxiety, depressions, paranoia, etc. Many a great visionary was very odd (from Daniel Tammet to John Nash, et al.), but that does not change the power of the brilliant contributions their minds have made to science. If you have any problem with this, then Mr. Chenault has no interest in teaching you.



In Conclusion
* Understand you are being given a golden opportunity for access to information unprecedented in its ability to enlighten the human condition.


Application to the PICN
All PICN applicants must demonstrate basic proficiency and agree to these Principles before applying to the Pod’Lair Intentional Community Network. Post-PICN discussion has these as a given so that everyone can commence with advanced discussions.


If you have any questions or issues about the PICN Principles, please go to the PICN Principle discussion forum thread.


If you have satisfied the criteria above and wish to apply for PICN membership, please go to the PICN Acceptance and Application Form.


For Guests who show promise, talent, and interest in becoming Members, with access to advanced level materials and interactions, here are requirements and opportunities to level up:

Basic Theory mastery - as demonstrated by forum posts and conversations with Interns

Forum Posting - minimum of 100 posts to demonstrate basic proficiency in Mojo Reading, knowledge of theory, and ability to play well with others :)

Acceptance of PICN Principles - discussion takes place under the PICN Principles forum topic. Acceptance form is in the PICN area of the Outpost Organizing pathway on the website.

Spearheading Community Building - at the beta phases there are many opportunities to stand out by assisting with:

- Website beautification: the typo hunting game :)

- Technical assistance: troubleshooting, website know-how

- Getting the word out: ideas for flyers or E-queries, telling your friends, sharing on Facebook, etc.

- Creative ideas or any other talents you'd like to contribute to the community.

Members are involved in advanced discussions, generating advanced materials, training at high levels in Social Alchemy specific temples, mentorship from the Interns, and consideration for becoming a Mojo reading Intern, among many other things. Above all membership involves communing with other high level minds and making impact in both inner and outer worlds.


I am very familiar with basic & advanced Pod'Lair Theory

I have been invited by Thomas Chenault

I have read, pondered, and agree to the PICN Principles

I proudly stand by my Pod'lair heroes, together we will show the world what it desperately needs to be shown.

=(??) Jonathan

I am familiar with basic & advanced Pod'Lair Theory

I have been invited by Thomas Chenault

I have read, pondered, and agree to the PICN Principles

This Theory completely revolutionizes Human Understanding and I'm proud and deeply honored to be a part of sharing it with the World!

- @(??) Cristina, a humble Natural Law servant

Adymus must be getting thousands of orgams just thinking about this.





13. Hello Pod'Lair of Earth! It is good finally be able to say that now :)

As an integral part of your Pod'Lair training, indeed THE integral part, is your Herography. Your Herography is basically your role-playing game character sheet for the role-playing game of your existence with the character of you. This can seem like a complex task at first but eventually the various elements that comprise your Herography will become first natures to you.

Initially these will seem like a collection of first natures because of the many ways humans are able to understand their universes. With greater mastery this collection of first natures will be understood as your one true nature, your one true self. However, it is always necessary and desirable to revisit the distinct yet synergistic elements in order to fine tune them like the strings of an instrument.

So what are these elements, these first natures? There are quite a few and each is a fascinating study of the self and the all in its own right. Here is a list of some of the major elements of a human's Herography:

1) Conscious Pod Powers & Power Flows.
2) Pod Power Relationships
3) Four Powers of the Unconscious Genius
4) Peak Pathways
5) Keening & Stress-Lock
6) Enlightenment Elevator Spirit Forms
7) Enlightenment Elevator Ritual Ladder
8 ) Heroic Meme Forms
9) Mentorership (different than Mentorship)
10) Social Alchemy Relationships
11) State of your Bubbles
12) The One Bubble
13) Yin/Yang Tile
14) Mojo Reading (beyond technique & cues, 5th gear+)
15) 1024 to Infinity Lens

These elements will form the core discussion areas of interest in the Embassy of Humanity. From here virtually all philosophic discussion in Pod'Lair theory can be addressed at a high level amongst fellow Pod'Lair. The focus of this topic thread will be to help Pod'Lair understand these elements to a high degree for themselves and for others who are not their Mojo Configuration. These elements also make up the core exploration and development tool in mentoring yourself and others.

So look these over and ask many questions to start to see the wondrous fabric of your heroic storyline and how it interplays with your fellow humans. The Embassy of Humanity begins this quest connecting yourself to the heroic quest that all human's share. The Embassy of Humanity is open to beginning Pod'Lair but there will also be a Temple of Humanity in the near future which will be a restricted area for only those who have achieved enough understanding of their Herography, and Herography training in general, to hear and speak at a fluent level.

14. Signs of Mojo configurations that are strikingly similar to our own are definitely observable in other advanced mammalian species, which is to be expect as they are very close evolutionary kin. Wolves are one of my favorite examples, as their ability to read and be read by other wolves, communicate through their expression, and use these to maintain and move the their wolf-packs dynamics are perfect examples of Xyy being used by wild animals.

There is a line from the movie K-PAX that I really like, and I feel is relevant to this topic. In this part of the movie, Kevin Spacey's character was just asked; if you are an Alien, then why do you look like us?

"Why is a soap bubble round? Because it is the most energy efficient configuration. Similarly, on your planet I look like you; on K-PAX I look like a K-Paxian."

Right now, we humans are one of the most complex stages of energy's evolution in the universe, that we know of anyhow. Before us were simpler evolutionary stages, single celled organisms, primordial soup, etc, the point is, there is an order of criteria in complexity that had to be in alignment before we could could exist. Aliens (let's assume with similar cognition as our own) would have to be created with the exact same criteria of complexity, and bound by the same natural laws as we were, assuming they are in the same universe. The leaps in evolution that these Aliens would have to be making would have the same criteria in mind for what makes a strong and energy efficient being, as our own. With that said, I think it is very likely that Aliens that were similar to our cognition would also have Mojo configurations as well. Maybe they wouldn't be exactly like our own, but I think the universal design is something you still might see in them.


15. Would dialoguing with the spirit forms be similar to Jung's concept of 'Active Imagination'?


There are similarities but as anyone who tries to decipher the human experience is working on the same case trying to give proper definition and context. Active imagination involves allowing your conscious and unconscious mind to dialogue. Peak Pathways and Spirit Forming are how this is addressed in Pod'Lair theory. It is a continuum of dialogue that begins with the pod powers of the Mojo. This is however an academic understanding. To really get your Mojo you need tacit training. This comes from interacting with other Mojos with some goal in mind together such as improving this ability or that. This kind of learning has more of a flow to it. It is harder to control but it also gives greater mastery.

Peak Pathways teach how to bridge between what Thomas often calls impulse speed engine functionality and engaging warp speed engine energies. The first half of the peak pathway teaches how to get the flow going. The second half teaches how to surf the energies that comes from your unconscious when you do this. This surfing is a kind of dialoguing. Like tacit training in real time but more arresting and autonomous in nature. This often has a very artistic or fantastical feel to it but it is still a way the psyche was designed to dialogue with itself. This often, but not always, has the feeling of communing with a higher dimension or entity.

When done intensely and/or in a prolonged fashion the experience goes behind just the 'rush' felt in the peak pathways and it hits the highest energy exchanges a human can understand or endure. These will be experienced as a spiritual moments by a human. These are even more autonomous and arresting than the initial unconscious energies released in the peak pathways. This usually feels as if you are communing with the nature, the cosmos, the All, etc.

These are all ways of dialoging and all are needed in order to be able to get your psyche off the ground, into the air, higher and higher, then land it back again safely.

//[:+:]Y Tim wrote:
Are these dialogues experienced in a spiritual manner, in a way that takes one away from perceived material existence?


Yes, in a manner that merges perceived existence with other perceptions you possess. It is what is referred to in scientific terms as Synesthesia. However, synesthesia technically only means two perception modalities are existing in the psyche at the same time. There are actually four perception modalities and also four discernment modalities. For this reason, Thomas has coined the term Synomnia to refer to this phenomenon more accurately in Pod'Lair theory. So yes, Synomnia (a merging of the power functionality in the psyche for periods of time) will be experienced as a spiritual state often and yes it does make one feel as if they in another dimension so to speak.

//[:+:]Y Tim wrote:
Are they visual and aural? Or is it different for each Mojo Configuration based on the unconscious polar?


Yes there are and again you will want to look up Synesthesia to get your feet wet on this concept so that the more advanced, and accurate, concept of Synomnia will make sense. Synomnia is a merging of one or more Pod Powers in such a way as to give 'altered states'. The Mojo configuration, and the powers and ranking that make it up, will fundamentally inform on what kind of Synomniac experiences an individual has as well as how they induce their Synomnia and what it can do once activated.

//[:+:]Y Tim wrote:
I'm guessing the experience is different from the inner dialogue and perspective shifting of the Nai source power?


Yes and no. It is different in that what Nai does is native to its perception modality. However, Nai is the power that is most likely to be used for synesthesia or Synomnia. This is because crossing over perception modalities is not easy. It takes lots of effort and most humans have not reason to do this if they can avoid it. Nai Alpha can't avoid this so most of them have synesthesia to some degree already. This is because their polar power of Vyy is a perception that is called on 24/7 which causes Nai Alpha to have to develop the mental trick of processing Vyy and Nai at the same time for periods of time. It is what we call 'going liquidy'. Any Mojo can do this. It is when they give themselves over entirely to their perception powers, usually referring to the two conscious ones but it can mean all of them. Synesthesia is referring to the two conscious ones. Going liquidy is not easy to do so most people don't need to learn this. It usually only happens in high stress situations or peak exertions such as elite sports. The Nai Alpha however are highly stressed by their Vyy polar all the time so going liquidy in order to survive Vyy intense encounters is often a technique that Nai Alpha develop instinctually.


16. ***** How does a "Nai reboot" work for Mojos other than Nai'alpha? *****

Nyxyia asked this excellent question in the Nai Power Temple. The first portion of my answer I will post here in the Nai Power Embassy as this is highly relevant to the sacred tasks that both the Nai Power Embassy & Temple will focus on.

All Mojo Configurations have all eight Pod Powers and thus all the Power Flow Abilities. However, it is a question of how the power of Nai is ranked in the psyche in both an Energetic and Conscious Access sense. Conscious Access Rank is the basic hierarchy that you should be familiar with:

Source, Tandem, Offside, Polar, Un. (Unconscious) Source, Un. Tandem, Un. Offside, Un. Polar
Ex: Nai’xyy = Nai’xyy’zai’vyy’nyy’xai’zyy’vai

This relates to how EASILY the powers can be CONSCIOUSLY & DIRECTLY ACCESSED by the Mojo Configuration. This is important to know about all your powers so you know to access them. There is another way to rank your powers and this is by how POWERFULLY the powers can be UNCONSCIOUSLY & INDIRECTLY UNLEASHED. The Energetic Power Ranking is:

Source, Un. Source, Tandem, Un. Tandem, Offside, Un. Offside, Polar, Un. Polar
Ex: Nai’xyy = Nai’(nyy)’xyy’(xai)’zai’(zyy)’vyy’(vai)

You will notice that the Nai and Vai are the Alpha and Omega in both sequences but the rest of the ranking is quite different. Notice that Nai still outranks Nyy on unconscious energy. Although the Nai’xyy, for example, has lots of Nai conscious access, the vast majority is still unconscious and Nai is the Native Channel (Interpretive) and Native Quadrant (Worldview Map).

What this means in basic terms is that, for the Nai’xyy, Nai is innately the EASIEST and MOST POWERFUL of its powers, including its power flow abilities, such as Detaching/Rebooting. When it comes to conscious access then it is Xyy that is the next ranked. For the Nai’xyy, consciously touching these abilities is the next easiest. However, when it comes to energetic ranking, Nyy is higher than Xyy. The power of Nyy, and its power flow abilities, have more of a profound influence in the psyche of the Nai’xyy because, although unconscious, it is in the highest ranked channel, the Interpretive Channel.

So in order for the Nai’xyy to use Xyy, there is a ‘reaching’ to it that is required. This takes effort as a Tandem power does and then access to that power and its abilities is given. In order for the Nai’xyy to access Nyy, there is a ‘calling’ to it that is required. This takes effort as a Source Power, in this case Nai, to call out and the return on energy investment comes from Nyy which inspirational. So in this way it is superior to Xyy for the Nai’xyy.

The difference is that Nyy will be indirect for the Nai’xyy. The Nai’xyy can’t just access it directly like it is one of its tools. The Nai’xyy must use a more relationship approach to the Nyy. A request must be made. Then the Unconscious Nyy will give gifts. These are not always what the Nai asked for, or thought it asked for. In time this dialogue can get extremely nuanced and flows directly into Spirit Forming. For the Nai’xyy, and the other three Nai Mojos, if they have a good relationship with their Uthur then often you get what you asked for and then some.

That was a lot of preamble but it was needed to set the stage to answer this questions. With that in place it is relatively simple to address the other Mojos. I will focus on the 8 Mojo Configurations that use Nai on the upper end of their Energetic Ranking. This will allow for distinguishing between Conscious and Unconscious Users of Nai.

** Nai’xyy & Nai’zyy: For these Mojos the Reboot feature of the psyche is constantly tugging on them to ‘pull the trigger’. The Nai’alpha psyche, at the highest levels of authority, WANTS to reboot. So these Mojos just need to ‘let it happen’. Also, since it is energetically highest ranked as well, this feature will tend to sublimate the other powers. Rebooting can be done by Nai at different sizes, such as one power, two powers, all powers partial, all powers complete, etc. The Nai Rebooting of the Nai'alpha will naturally tend towards the largest scope of Rebooting as possible.

** Nyy’xai & Nyy’zai: These Mojos occupy the same Interpretive Channel as the Nai’alpha but in a different end and therefore quadrant of the psyche. This means that the Reboot Feature is very powerful but not at their autonomous discretion to use. In order to use the Reboot Feature the Nyy’alpha need to call out to their I.G. (psychological term) or Uthur (spiritual term). They need to make their headspace conducive for the autonomous Nai’alpha in their psyche to visit with them. A request can be made for a Reboot and this is something that the autonomous unconscious of the Nyy’alpha is well equiped to do. The main issue is for the natively Stimulus Register Nyy’alpha to make their mind conducive for their Worldview Map I.G. Nai’alpha to want to parlay. When a I.G. Nai’alpha wants to parlay, the Reboot Feature being used is always on the table 

** Xyy’nai & Zyy’nai: Like the Nai’alpha, these Tandem Nai Users can directly ‘touch’ their Nai with their conscious mind and access it like a tool in their toolbox. The difference is that there will be a ‘reaching’ quality to it, like the Nai’xyy when using Xyy. This reaching is only to the Tandem and the sensation of having the psyche Reboot will be, if a healthy Nai Tandem Mojo, a familiar one. Rebooting requires a releasing into The Unknown that takes time to get used to. These two Mojos will not have the constant tug to Reboot like Nai’alpha but it will be there whenever they reach for it and it will be less startling to them than it is for other Mojos.

The Reboot for the Nyy’alpha can be quite startling for them, especially if they have not been willingly doing Peak Pathways and Spirit Forming. However, the Reboot parameters are naturally set higher and more pervasive with the Nyy’alpha as opposed to the Nai Tandem Mojos. So the Xyy’nai and Zyy’nai can, and often will, ‘pull the trigger’ of the Reboot Feature easier than the Nyy’alpha but it does not naturally Reboot as much of the psyche because it is only ranked energetically as Tandem. For Nyy’alpha it takes more of a dialoguing procedure to get the I.G. to perform the Reboot Feature but when it happens it has the influence on the psyche that comes from the Native Interpretive Corridor.

** Xai’nyy & Zai’nyy: Like the Nyy’alpha, the Nyy Tandem Mojos, must also metaphysically call out to the Nai Power, and its abilities, such as Rebooting. Although both these Mojos share the fact that their Source Power is a Subjective Discernment, their I.G.s (Xyy’nai or Zyy’nai) are Nai Mojos. So their use of Rebooting mirrors that of the Nyy’alpha, but with a lower level of prevalence and influence which does not as easily convince the Subjective Discerners’ Source Xai or Zai that a reboot is necessary.

The remaining 8 Mojo Configurations I will put up in the Nai Power Temple at a later time.

Interns: Please answer the Embassy questions as best you can. Thanks!

- Me :)
Hello world, the name is Chenault. Thomas Chenault. Omni Theorist and Life Coach Extraordinaire, at your service.

20. The biggest area you misunderstand yourself in is the fact that you are Objective when you think you are Subjective in nature. You have Unhooded Eyes, so you are Objective, end of story. You should know that the Nyy'xai is the Objective Mojo that misreads itself as a Subjective Mojo more than any other. It has to do with the Nyy'xai being very sensitive, with an uber-quick mind and a disinterest in doing 'normal' stuff. Nyy'xai often get their need for interaction through the internet or in clubs with people who are into the eclectic and divergent and transitory things that catch their fancy.

21. The up side to this is that you are going to meet the real you for the first time. You will be able to start putting together the mystery of you now that you have accurate pieces to work with. Please do not use descriptions of Nyy'xai (what you call ENFP) as a barometer of whether this 'sounds' like you or not. First of all, it is not an opinion question. Those incompetent days are over. What Pod'Lair is bringing to the table is forensic in nature and will be able to present itself to the most rigorous of public scrutiny once our goal of 32K human samples is achieved.

Another thing is that the Nyy'xai, like its Inspirational Partner the Nai'xyy, is a chameleon of incredible powers. The only way you can say what a Mojo is 'like' would be to get a bunch together that had been accurately read with forensic level evidence and then ask these people, thousands of them, what they are like. This is what Pod'Lair has plans for once the proof-of-concept is sufficient to go public and entice investors. All descriptions of Mojos done by other models are very clumsy, broad and inaccurate. The serve only to confuse and allow opinion on the kind of thing that should be resolved with facial scanning. With the N'xez (Nyy'xai & Nai'xyy) this is especially true as the way these two manifest in daily life has extreme range and variation. Looking at a cookie cutter description for either of these Mojos will only serve to confuse you about these exceptionally complex humans. It is best to start from a forensic and mathematical footing and then move on into the facades and playing-style variations. The N'xez have many.

You should be getting a registration email soon with your username (will contain the symbolic representation of your Mojo) and info to login to the site. Once logged in, you'll be directed to a Guest Orientation Guide, which is also on the Mojo Dojo Page. You can familiarize yourself with Mojo reading in general and then the Mojo orientation series specific to Nyy'xai - we'll be adding to that constantly and there are lots of articles, videos, and forum threads to study.


* Guest Videos – Our growing learning material videos include several you will want to check out right away such as 'Nyy Power Flow', 'Xai Power Flow', etc. Access these through YouTube.You may also want to check out the Zyy Power Flow so you understand what this power is and how it effects your psyche.

Here is the YouTube account where you can access these Guest videos:

Username - pod_lair_guest@yahoo.com

Password - h1e1r1o1 (those are the number "1")







When entering the Guest Area of Pod'Lair you will be a student learning the greatest Omni-Theory to hit this planet ever. You will need to come with a student's heart and mind which means a willingness to gain facility with the new terminology of Pod'Lair. There can sometimes be a desire to import in thinking from other models of thought as a way to 'save time' or 'get ahead faster' but this will only serve to distract. Pod'Lair is demonstrably superior to any and all other models on the market. The proof-of-concept we are gathering to begin taking this public, which includes training people in this groundbreaking methodology, is the supreme and only focus of the work we are doing. This is the beta phase project you will be coming into. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, especially on the forums.. I think you'll find the Social Alchemy groupings interesting and enlightening, and enjoy interacting with everybody. So have fun, enjoy the materials, and let us know if you have any questions!


- Pod'Lair Internship Team

P.S. In good conscious, once you realize the truth of what you have been told, you should inform the constituency of your website. Your are doing them a great disservice by: a) talking like a Zai'nyy when you are not one and there is a way to prove that now. b) allowing those that use your site to continue thinking they are a given Mojo when they are likely not. A great number of the people on the personality sites are misread. The 60-85% accuracy claimed by other models is an embarrassing percentage now that Pod'Lair is here and those percentages are worthless anyway as previously there has been no control with which to verify readings. You have now been educated to this fact please conduct yourself accordingly as is the way of a true hero.

I'll be going on a heroic journey. Will anyone join me?
 

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Edit:...I fear being crushed under the massive bulk of the above comment....I...I can't breathe! SOMEBODY GET IT OFF ME! GET IT OFF ME! I'M DYING!

*passes out*

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I don't really want to wade into this discussion but I think I can provide some clarity...ugh, I'll probably just make people angrier or more frustrated. Bler.

I find the kernel of the theory of Pod'lair fascinating and I can see truth in it. You can pick up visual cues about people's personalities from their body language. That makes a lot of sense since humans are fundamentally social creatures and it would be impossible for us to hide our true selves completely even if we were aware of our every movement at all times. I have even used some of the Pod'lair techniques to decipher people and they have worked well enough.

However, the way the website and the information it is providing is presented makes me feel like I'm being treated like an idiot. It's alienating to the very audience it is attempting to reach out to. I'm not an idiot and I don't need all the glitz and color. Yet, I think that the very appearance and language used that bothers me so much is more inviting to others who are less intellectual than we all tend to be. So...I see why they have made the choice to make their website look more like a circus instead of a cut and dry explanation of theory but it's unfortunate that the same attempt at reaching out has completely turned me off.

I agree with Auburn in that the extreme reactionary stances taken against the MBTI theory and those who questions Pod'lair is another strike against this movement. I'd have probably cared more and attempted to take part in the Pod'lair website (become a member and whatnot) had the people who swear by it not been so ridiculously rabid about it. I stopped going to church because my fellow church goers were so rabid. Just the same as then, there seems to be little room for understanding and frank discussion around people who study Pod'lair. How can you hope to have a grassroots movement if you cut off any attempt a piercing the void of misunderstanding? Perhaps they've had to defend themselves one to many times and they are exhausted and frustrated. I can understand that they feel attacked since Pod'lair is a relatively new idea and they are fighting tradition and long held beliefs. People don't like change. So it's understandable that the people who study Pod'lair would get tired of explaining themselves to every person who walks through their door but...well...that's part of the job.

You can't hope to spread the word of your theory and fight for it's validity if you treat the people you are teaching like idiots and therefore alienate and then get frustrated every time they question you.
 

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Zigomanis, you broke one of their rules:
Do not use any material on this site without express permission of the Pod'Lair Leadership Team. This begins at the Guest level and is accentuated in the PICN and even more so in the Special Programs, as these allow access to increasing levels of sensitivity of information.

I found this interesting:
6. They have induction rituals, but you need an account to see that.

Hi everyone,

Nai'xyy Coach and Zai'nyy Jonathan have filmed Demos for the Ritual Requirement to progress to Level 1 as a Pod'Lair Practitioner. Take a look at them here after the study guides. This is the first step to unlocking your Synomnia!

Once you think you can do it, just film your own ritual video. You can send it to us privately to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or you can post it publicly as a reply to this thread if you want to help others learn and show off your new Synomnia skills. Or as Coach (Thomas) calls it sometimes Mojo-Fu of You

Expect mine and Nyxyia coming up soon!

I thought Pod'Lair wasn't a cult Adymus? :confused: Clarify this for me, if you can.
 

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I'm Verali from Personality nations forum. After being introduced to pod'lair, I was disgusted by the discrimination, immoralism and unethical practices by the podlair cult. I copied everything from the site and told Zigomanis (who is an admin at pern) to post it for me. People, give up on pod'lair. Thank you.
 

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This is petty, disgusting behaviour.

Settle your differences and stop trying
to be king of the fucking jungle.
 

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Jesus Christ. This the getting worse than Egypt!
 

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Aw man, someone pooped in the poop ): .
 

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Yeah, and proud of it! Now quite disrupting our forum. What is with you people? It's like you have some sort of "Bat Call" that you put out every time one of you gets riled up. Egads. Get a life. Go terrorize somebody else.
 

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Listen, Anama... whatever that name was spelled - I don't particularly care if that is really you or someone else. I don't know what your issues are with Adymus and/or podlair and truth be told, I'm absolutely not eager to find out. If you really want to "destroy" them as you said, just shoot them or send a parcel bomb. Or even better, just find a good psychologist.
Just don't use this forum for your kindergarten games.
 

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This thread took a dark turn since the last time I popped my head in...oh, I don't have an opinion either way.
 

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You guys, this thread was started purely
to troll Adymus. The entire thread. That
was the whole purpose of starting it. You
have to realize that, right?


So it taking a dark turn... no. There was
always darkness there, you just didn't
realize it at the time.
 

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Now, anyone with some intelligence can see that the words used for the pod-powers are the phonetic equivalent to the Jungian Cognitive Functions. However, somewhere along the line they must have chosen to depart from MBTI associations altogether - which might explain their adamant refusal to paralleling them - and now are in denial of it's origins.

Additionally, the Pod'lair pages on meetup.com and eventful.com that were put up before the main site, pretty much spell it out. Most of them were taken down, but this one is still around: http://eventful.com/longbeach/event...al-acceptance-/E0-001-024570421-6#box-details

The Pod'Lair Super-Heroic Cycle that we'll cover in this meetup is a spiritual, or archetypal model that combines elements of Jungian archetypes, Evolutionary Psychology, Gaia principle, Cosmology, Leary Eight Circuits of Consciousness, Chakra System, and Tibetan Meditation.
 

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OK, so I just watched the first two videos of Thomas explaining the origins and foundations of pod'lair theory....

...and I'm a little weirded out, because Thomas's vocabulary, manner of speaking, gestures, eye directions, tone of voice and...beard...hair...is sooooo much like my autistic 22 year old son....

....and my son, Andrew, paints fabulous, dense abstract art that is layered and textured, with movement and hidden patterns....but when Andrew writes, he writes prolifically, but good luck finding a logical plot or progression of ideas from start to finish...it's a roller-coaster ride of ideas and words used in startling ways to form vivid but fleeting images...

Has Thomas (Chenault) discovered something new and exciting? He certainly is not bashful about alluding to Einstein, although it was unclear to me why he kept dropping Einstein's name into the talk; I suspect a rather manic, autistic genius at work here, but genius does not rule out warped world-view...and it definitely bothers me the patronizing way he talks about his students...he does come across as very cult-guru-ish; I would advise the pod'lair leadership to put up videos that are clear, straight-forward, logical, well planned, and that don't use words and concepts that sound very like a combination of Klingon and a whole host of electronic virtual reality games, the kind one of my other sons has spent the last five years of his life playing obsessively until he discovered drums and girls...not sure which came first ;)

I am not saying I think Chenault is a fraud or nut, I'm just saying the presentation is a bit...uh, incomprehensible and cultish-like...

Actually, this discussion has made me more desirous of getting into true Jungian theory, I would really like to find out how Jung would have classified my personality...because Jung was a man who spent his life studying the human psyche, who discovered archetypes by carving sculptures for a year in his garden while meditating on the human psyche...there is such a depth to Jung that I find it hard to believe is not: A: profound and important, and B: fairly accurate.

And I AM dissatisfied with the narrowness of the MBTI, and I WOULD like to be a hero, and if pod'lair can help me do that, I'm all for it...I don't really understand Jung, and I've tried for decades...I do wish I had the means to take Jungian therapy from a real Jungian therapist, that would probably be transformative.

So, we'll see, I will remain open-minded about pod'lair and proceed, despite the Klingon-like language (I hate learning a foreign language, it's such an inneficient use of time, unless one is going to live abroad for a sufficiently long time or translate classics...) and the weird resemblance of Thomas Chenault to my autistic, very lateral thinking, own son.
 

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Hm, they really do seem to be moving away from pure typology though. It's almost more similar in flavour to *religion... it's not just about knowing what 'type' you are, or other people are, it's about an entire way of life. Learning how to maximise human experience. With a scope that wide, and with that much detail, it's not surprising the material is somewhat confusing - although I take back what I said previously about the site, it's MUCH more organised now and easy to navigate.

*I don't mean this in a derogatory way, nor am I suggesting any dogmatic undertones, just that it's way more encompassing than general typology, I think. It really does appear quite visionary - huge horizon, and yet everything extrapolated from a few core principles.

I do think we'd rather not have a pod'lair war here though. And betraying trust always kinda sucks, whoeveryouare.

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Synchro! I dreamt about you last night. You looked about 30, and I was amazed you could be 60.
 

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Isn't it the Pod'lair 'experts' themselves that are fueling the conflict in stating that their 'theory' is superior to every other typology theory?

I think they have strong dogmatic undertones

-they have their own language
-they have an initiation ritual (they even say it should be like a 'prayer')
-There are multiple levels with more information at each level
 

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I was talking about Anamalech, his various incarnations and his interest in defaming Pod'lair on this forum. There is no 'conflict' here beyond some dissatisfaction with Adymus and his perceived arrogance. All other conflict, arrogance, superiority, whatever, is coming from sources external to this forum and its members (since Ana is, technically, banned). Basically just agreeing with what Anthile said. Discussions on pod'lair don't need to be sidelined by what seems to be a vindictive vendetta.

RE dogma, I was clarifying my usage of the word 'religion' - I was using it to imply things other than dogma.
 

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Am I the only one who tried to login then?

I hope all this side talk doesn't prevent Adymus for replaying. I really want to hear what he has to say on some of these points.

Since they are now claiming pod is entirely different from MBTI, it has been fairly misleading to translate it into MBTI when explaining behaviour on this site. I don't see how anyone one on intpf, infjf and any other places introduced to Adymus could see pod as anything but an improvement and somewhat new approach to MBTI.

I can understand if all this critique could get a bit much, but I don't think any of it is meant personal. Except perhaps that dude who posted information of 37 word pages. I mean, the doctors are still trying to piece my spine back together.

I would probably have been sending in videos as well if the website had been more...... neutral and if this sudden turn in attitude hadn't arose.
 

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I can understand if all this critique could get a bit much, but I don't think any of it is meant personal.


Actually, I think Adymus is very personally invested in Pod'lair. His zeal...and everything I've read just seems to point to Pod'lair being very meaningful to his reality. (all encompassing natural law, revolution, being a Hero). Anamalech is still obviously harboring whatever grudge he has, and I think he'll do anything he can to made Adymus, Pod'lair and other practitioners look bad.

I can't imagine Adymus would ever concede to Pod'lair being wrong. It would probably be better to say that it would be very difficult to make him not look through Pod'lair's "lens".
 

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I am still learning about the aspects of Pod'lair theory, but my thoughts so far on what I've picked up:

-> It does have a cult feel about it - highly charismatic and persuasive leader (check), novel beliefs and ideas (check), ritual practices (check), protected information (check).

But cult doesn't always = bad.

Does it appear to be a destructive cult? It doesn't look like it, but it is very early days.

Can it greatly improve your life? Possibly, but again it's too early for me to tell as I'm still learning about the theory.

-> They have stated that their marketing strategy is to target pop culture first, as targeting the scientific community would be inefficient in requiring large amount of funding and effort to turn heads, which they don't have at this stage.

-> Within pop culture Pod'lair seems to be targeting a certain audience with the presentation of their content, which is the NF Idealists or Romantic quadrant as they call it. Infact almost every member on the forum is either Nai xyy (INFJ) or Nyy xai (ENFP).

-> I believe the main reason Pod'lair want to distance themselves from MBTI because they want students to start with a 'blank slate' i.e they don't want people to bring forward misconceptions and stereotypes learnt from MBTI circles about the 16 types which will interfere with their understanding of them.

-> Their theory also expands into the areas such as the unconscious mind and social alchemy groupings, which MBTI fails to address clearly and is no doubt of great interest.

-> Thomas Chenault (the founder of the theory) is has very grand visions and plans for Pod'lair revolutionizing the way the world will function in the future i.e. temples for all the mojo configurations (personality types), re-branding education systems, Pod'lair World Mojo Reading World Championships, young kids they've trained in mojo reading and professional sales people schooling book-smart psychology doctorates etc.
 

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This thread took a dark turn since the last time I popped my head in...oh, I don't have an opinion either way.


I pretty much came in here like this --> :walkout:

I won't even bother to ask what the hell is going on now. I'll just wait for shit to calm down and sort of "right" itself.

You guys, this thread was started purely
to troll Adymus.

I did initially think this, but figured there may still be something of value to take from it.
 

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Actually I'm not related to any previous members or any personal agenda to destroy their theory. As an INTP, as most of you can relate, is to fund the truth and to possibly reveal it for all that desire to accept it or not.

After coming on these forums and reading through a few threads, I immediately observed a pattern that Adymus has a self proclaimed guru status amongst being able to type people and likes to engage in persuading people into believing that they are INFJs. His fascination with this type and not allowing the possibility for INTP's with views/behaviors that are outside of his to exist disturb me. I've also noticed a trend that any INTP with developed Fe or possible Ni is NOT an INTP and definitely a INFJ with strong Ti (can anyone not see the flaw in this logic?).

Another point I want to bring up is that Adymus claims high accuracy in typing people. But, what is this measure of accuracy bench marked against? If Pod'Lair has no relation to MBTI, what are they really accurate about?

I have a lot more to write & contribute, but there's a ton of information here that I want to sift through and think about before I add more.
 

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Actually, I think Adymus is very personally invested in Pod'lair. His zeal...and everything I've read just seems to point to Pod'lair being very meaningful to his reality. (all encompassing natural law, revolution, being a Hero). Anamalech is still obviously harboring whatever grudge he has, and I think he'll do anything he can to made Adymus, Pod'lair and other practitioners look bad.

I can't imagine Adymus would ever concede to Pod'lair being wrong. It would probably be better to say that it would be very difficult to make him not look through Pod'lair's "lens".
This is going to be the last thing I say on this thread, because I don't believe in feeding the trolls. I am mainly focusing on the quoted statement, but I'll touch up a some other things as well. This thread has been turned into fear mongering nonsense that is irrelevant to the validity of the theory anyway.


There is a lot of truth to what you said about me, Fukyo, I do have a lot of conviction for Pod'Lair, it is extremely important to me.

However, you are painting me in kind of an unfair light, and it sounds like you are suggesting that this is a brainwashing or diluted paradigm that I refuse to look outside of, and that is just not true.
You have to understand what I am seeing, to get where I am coming from. I cannot unsee my perspective, there is a phenomenon in people that has become blatantly obvious to me, and that can't just disappear. Even if for some reason I had to go back to plain old MBTI, I would still be using Mojo Reading and Pod'lair theory, because it is the strongest, most reliable, and most logical thing I have ever experienced.
So right now, with what I have experienced and what I am aware of, there is absolutely no reason for me to concede that it is wrong. Not only are you guys incapable of proving this wrong, but no matter what you say I can still physically see that there is something there.
I can't just stop looking at it from that perspective, because I am now aware of phenomenon I was not aware of before. So even if I started using another theory, I would still see these phenomenon, and they need to be accounted for and explained. You would have to prove to me that there is no pattern or phenomenon there, which doesn't seem likely considering there are more of us that see it too in such a consistent way that we can all look at the same person and know what Mojo they are without even saying a word.

This is why I don't consider anyone's disagreement with me relevant, because it is like they are trying to tell me they are holding up five fingers when I can clearly see they are holding up four. I came from a Jungian/MBTI Background, so I already know the MBTI perspective, and now that I have this other (and what I would call "Higher") perspective, I can see there are important patterns in human behavior that MBTI and JCE are ignoring, or are blind to, rather.

And if like Jennywocky, you just don't understand how that could possibly work, well that's just too bad, because I can see that it is working that way. All your disagreement tells me, is that you have built your logic on a foundation that does not address existent phenomena. Phenomena that change the rules of the game so much that if you do not know about it, you will think there are paradoxes in places that there are really not.
Being able to actually physically see how a person is wired sounds unbelievable to many MBTIers, because their paradigm of what is and is not possible does not permit this to be true. But it is not logical paradigms that dictate what is true or false in the universe, and that is something humans never seem to learn, no matter how many times we have to update our paradigms.

I am actually not at all taking the strawman to MBTI or JCE, because these systems literally have no choice but to function in the flawed ways that I outlined. There is no, "Some of us are competent, and some of us are not" argument that you can use because as long as you have no objective control, as long as you are only using descriptive and subjective paradigms/archetypes/boxes to define your types, then are going to be looking at it from an extremely limited scope you are all allowing your limited understanding (and I assure you it is very limited no matter how experienced or competent you think you are) to inform you of what is and is not possible.

I know you guys don't like being lumped together with incompetence, and I know you guys think you are bypassing these flaws just because you might be a bit more clever then the noobies, but it is literally impossible for you to bypass these problems with the way you are doing it. You might have expanded your boxes just a tad, but they are still boxes.
In order to make a model that takes in account all of the possible variations, you need to do what we are doing, you need an objective control, nothing less will suffice.

What you guys are doing is like having only a concept for the color red. No physical or objective sample of the color, just a descriptive concept. So you go online and read descriptions of what it means to be red, and maybe you took an online test that said you have a strong percentage of redness. But in all of your minds you will have your own personal and subjective concept of what you think is red, and all of you will be on going to be on Redforum.com debating on whether this or that is red. You will say things like, "My neighbor is so red" or "That is such a red thing to say!" but none of you really know if any of what you are talking about is red or not, because all of you have to go by are subjective descriptions or your own understanding of what it means to be red. Even if you convinced everyone in the room to agree with your understanding of what is red, you would still have no way of really knowing if that were true or not.

Now of course that is absurd, because we can all see the color red (unless you are color blind, but stop being a wise ass), so there is no debate, there is an objective standard. Without an objective standard, you guys can't actually know what it means to be any type at all. Even when you think you know, all it is is an idea in your head that may or may not match up to the reality of it, and you would have no way to make it match up to the reality of it. Certainly not know you are doing it.
Saying things like "That guy sounds soooo INTP" doesn't actually have any relevance what so ever, because not only can you not really know what an INTP sounds like, you also can't really know if that is something only an INTP would do.
That problem simply does not exist in Pod'Lair, there is no debate, we simply point to a person and say "That is a Nai'xyy" or "That is a Zai'nyy." The criteria that needs to be met to define any Mojo is an objective criteria. While Fukyo, Jennywocky, Auburn, Minued, and everyone else has their own different subjective perspective and understanding of what an INTP is, everyone in Pod'lair has the same perspective and understanding of what a Zai'nyy is.

So if you are not doing it like this too, that is, with an objective standard, then sorry guys, but your model sucks.

EyeNTP, I'll keep this short because you're a troll and just not worth the effort. I hate to tell you this buddy, but those that I have helped find their real configuration, I have only received gratitude and word of how much my advisory and insight as helped them finally understand themselves in ways the MBTI nor anyone else has ever helped them. I'm sure you think you are being a hero by, well whatever it is you are trying to do, but there is a reason people end up receiving as much praise as they do. It is because they can deliver results, and that is what I have been doing on this forum, and I have been validated for that accordingly. So despite your shit talking, trolling, and lack of ability to actually see what I am doing (because based on what you just said, you are clearly not even getting it), you just can't beat good old fashioned results. I can deliver, and that speaks for itself.

bye bye!
 

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I've also noticed a trend that any INTP with developed Fe or possible Ni is NOT an INTP and definitely a INFJ with strong Ti (can anyone not see the flaw in this logic?).

The basis of the theory suggests that each mojo (type) has 4 conscious and 4 unconscious 'pod powers' (cognitive functions) as part of their psyche's make-up. A Zai nyy or INTP does not have conscious use of Ni (as well Te, Fi, Se) therefore it will not be apparent in their physiological cues as Ti, Ne, Si, Fe are.

"Another point I want to bring up is that Adymus claims high accuracy in typing people. But, what is this measure of accuracy bench marked against? If Pod'Lair has no relation to MBTI, what are they really accurate about?

Essentially the theory is attempting to capture and explain the natural law that underpins human dynamics just as MBTI and other personality models have tried to do.

As for benchmarks, Pod'lair believe that each of the 16 types produces a unique combination of physiological cues, which is mentioned on the website as requiring an 'artistic pallete' to recognise (some examples include cunning eyes vs blazing eyes vs dancing eyes vs prepared eyes, anvil cheeks vs stone face cheeks, aware mouth vs unaware mouth).

The founder of the theory, Thomas Chenault, accuracy is said to be 100% whilst the interns he is training to be practitioners (Adymus & co.) are said to be reading at >85% accuracy.

They haven't mentioned whether they have a purely objective measure (i.e. DNA / blood/saliva / fingerprint testing) and perhaps that is something that they will be investigating in the future with the required funding to pursue research <- Adymus, that is what I was interested in when I asked about forensic evidence
 

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I have no likes or dislikes with pod's theory. It's the layout I don't like. Otherwise, what I like or don't like have no relevance to truth.

I don't care about strawmans or whatnot, there have been questions here I've pondered as well without wanting to destroy pod. Even though the question "why are trees green" is irrelevant to robot unicorns, it's still an interesting question. I'm just curious. I don't care who's right or wrong.

And if we have such a hard time understanding what you are saying, then why don't you tell us more thoroughly?
 

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What Pod'Lair brings to the table is:
A greater accuracy, according to functions, which supposedly have physiological "tells"
Social interaction alchemy and compatibility, according to functions
Personal alchemy, according to functions


What Pod'Lair does not do:
Diverge from MBTI's fundamentals
Get rid of "boxes"


Pod'Lair adds to MBTI not rewrites it. If it did, Pod'Lair reasoning would be incompatible with MBTI. Pod'Lair's mojo reading makes identification of its subjective understanding of types 100%, supposedly. "Supposedly" because mojo reading is not an exact Science. It is pseudo-science.

Get your highlighters and see if you can see how many of these relate to Pod'lair:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience#Identifying_pseudoscience

Identifying pseudoscience​


 Assertion of scientific claims that are vague rather than precise, and that lack specific measurements.[30]

 Failure to make use of operational definitions (i.e. publicly accessible definitions of the variables, terms, or objects of interest so that persons other than the definer can independently measure or test them).[31] (See also: Reproducibility)

 Failure to make reasonable use of the principle of parsimony, i.e. failing to seek an explanation that requires the fewest possible additional assumptions when multiple viable explanations are possible (see: Occam's razor)[32]

 Use of obscurantist language, and use of apparently technical jargon in an effort to give claims the superficial trappings of science.

 Lack of boundary conditions: Most well-supported scientific theories possess well-articulated limitations under which the predicted phenomena do and do not apply.[33]

 Lack of effective controls, such as placebo and double-blind, in experimental design.
[edit]Over-reliance on confirmation rather than refutation

 Assertions that do not allow the logical possibility that they can be shown to be false by observation or physical experiment (see also: falsifiability)[34]

 Assertion of claims that a theory predicts something that it has not been shown to predict.[35] Scientific claims that do not confer any predictive power are considered at best "conjectures", or at worst "pseudoscience" (e.g. Ignoratio elenchi)[36]

 Assertion that claims which have not been proven false must be true, and vice versa (see: Argument from ignorance)[37]

 Over-reliance on testimonial, anecdotal evidence, or personal experience. This evidence may be useful for the context of discovery (i.e. hypothesis generation) but should not be used in the context of justification (e.g. Statistical hypothesis testing).[38]

 Presentation of data that seems to support its claims while suppressing or refusing to consider data that conflict with its claims.[39] This is an example of selection bias, a distortion of evidence or data that arises from the way that the data are collected. It is sometimes referred to as the selection effect.

 Reversed burden of proof. In science, the burden of proof rests on those making a claim, not on the critic. "Pseudoscientific" arguments may neglect this principle and demand that skeptics demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that a claim (e.g. an assertion regarding the efficacy of a novel therapeutic technique) is false. It is essentially impossible to prove a universal negative, so this tactic incorrectly places the burden of proof on the skeptic rather than the claimant.[40]

 Appeals to holism as opposed to reductionism: Proponents of pseudoscientific claims, especially in organic medicine, alternative medicine, naturopathy and mental health, often resort to the "mantra of holism" to explain negative findings.[41]
[edit]Lack of openness to testing by other experts

 Evasion of peer review before publicizing results (called "science by press conference").[42] Some proponents of theories that contradict accepted scientific theories avoid subjecting their ideas to peer review, sometimes on the grounds that peer review is biased towards established paradigms, and sometimes on the grounds that assertions cannot be evaluated adequately using standard scientific methods. By remaining insulated from the peer review process, these proponents forgo the opportunity of corrective feedback from informed colleagues.[43]

 Some agencies, institutions, and publications that fund scientific research require authors to share data so that others can evaluate a paper independently. Failure to provide adequate information for other researchers to reproduce the claims contributes to a lack of openness.[44]

 Appealing to the need for secrecy or proprietary knowledge when an independent review of data or methodology is requested.[44]
[edit]Absence of progress

 Failure to progress towards additional evidence of its claims.[45] Terence Hines has identified astrology as a subject that has changed very little in the past two millennia.[46](see also: Scientific progress)

 Lack of self correction: scientific research programmes make mistakes, but they tend to eliminate these errors over time.[47] By contrast, theories may be accused of being pseudoscientific because they have remained unaltered despite contradictory evidence. The work Scientists Confront Velikovsky (1976) Cornell University, also delves into these features in some detail, as does the work of Thomas Kuhn, e.g. The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (1962) which also discusses some of the items on the list of characteristics of pseudoscience.

 Statistical significance of supporting experimental results does not improve over time and are usually close to the cutoff for statistical significance. Normally, experimental techniques improve or the experiments are repeated and this gives ever stronger evidence. If statistical significance does not improve, this typically shows that the experiments have just been repeated until a success occurs due to chance variations.
[edit]Personalization of issues

 Tight social groups and authoritarian personality, suppression of dissent, and groupthink can enhance the adoption of beliefs that have no rational basis. In attempting toconfirm their beliefs, the group tends to identify their critics as enemies.[48]

 Assertion of claims of a conspiracy on the part of the scientific community to suppress the results.[49]

 Attacking the motives or character of anyone who questions the claims (see Ad hominem fallacy).[50]
[edit]Use of misleading language

 Creating scientific-sounding terms in order to add weight to claims and persuade non-experts to believe statements that may be false or meaningless. For example, a long-standing hoax refers to water by the rarely used formal name "dihydrogen monoxide" (DHMO) and describes it as the main constituent in most poisonous solutions to show how easily the general public can be misled.

 Using established terms in idiosyncratic ways, thereby demonstrating unfamiliarity with mainstream work in the discipline.
[edit]Absence from citation databases

 One way of assessing whether a subject is accepted as part of the scientific mainstream is to examine citations to it and its proponents in citation databases like Google Scholar, Scopus and Web of Science. These databases record how many times the topic or person is referred to in scholarly publications that are peer reviewed. A subject that is accepted as part of the mainstream is likely to have many citations, one that is not accepted very few.​
 

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Cheese posted: I do think we'd rather not have a pod'lair war here though. And betraying trust always kinda sucks, whoeveryouare.
Precisely. I am in no way interested in a pod war - and it bothers me that Adymus, who has impressed me with intelligent, insightful posts in other threads, uses such a confrontational tone here...it's not needed, Adymus, and you are only shooting yourself in the foot; we are INTP's: we like to debate without bile, we like to look at all sides, and even when we are considering what might look like potential danger signs, we do not jump to judgement or condemnation. And, finally, it saddens me, Adymus, that you throw up a defensive wall against all attempts to give good advice on how to improve pod'lair's methods of presenting itself...which makes me wonder: is Chenault a charismatic dictator, who will not listen to reason or permit his executive staff to make changes more conducive to avoiding cult-like appearances? I wonder whether your confrontational tone, Adymus, might derive from a slavish devotion to Chenault's demands?

Cheese posted: *edit
Synchro! I dreamt about you last night. You looked about 30, and I was amazed you could be 60.
Thanks, Cheese! I needed that! Yes, I am precisely 30 in my mind, and I gaze at the fine wrinkles starting to appear in my skin with horror and the knowledge that I need to get my final research question answered on my stem cells very soon, very soon indeed...(it's a good thing Federal law specifically excludes laboratory rats from any regulations whatsoever - not that I would hurt a rat, but getting IRB's for experiments on rats would be beyond my means)

Minuend posted: I can understand if all this critique could get a bit much, but I don't think any of it is meant personal.
Right. Precisely. None of this IS meant personally; we're just doing what INTP's do: considering all sides.

Hello world, the name is Chenault. Thomas Chenault. Omni Theorist and Life Coach Extraordinaire, at your service.
Wowser. This is exciting. However, Thomas, "Life Coach Extraordinaire"? Perhaps it is your age; you still have that naivete' of youth - I can relate, I do also; most of us INTP's do, it takes a lot of beatings to beat it out of us - but when you use a word like "Extraordinaire", people automatically throw up guards...something to think about....all of us have been hurt, at one time or another, by an egomaniac, and a word like that makes us automatically worry whether we're about to get hurt again.

Chenault posted: 20. The biggest area you misunderstand yourself in is the fact that you are Objective when you think you are Subjective in nature. You have Unhooded Eyes, so you are Objective, end of story. You should know that the Nyy'xai is the Objective Mojo that misreads itself as a Subjective Mojo more than any other. It has to do with the Nyy'xai being very sensitive, with an uber-quick mind and a disinterest in doing 'normal' stuff. Nyy'xai often get their need for interaction through the internet or in clubs with people who are into the eclectic and divergent and transitory things that catch their fancy.
This is very interesting indeed, and it is also refreshing to hear a tone here that doesn't seem confrontational to me. Instinctively, it seems to me there is truth to this statement.

Chenault posted: 21. The up side to this is that you are going to meet the real you for the first time. You will be able to start putting together the mystery of you now that you have accurate pieces to work with. Please do not use descriptions of Nyy'xai (what you call ENFP) as a barometer of whether this 'sounds' like you or not. First of all, it is not an opinion question. Those incompetent days are over. What Pod'Lair is bringing to the table is forensic in nature and will be able to present itself to the most rigorous of public scrutiny once our goal of 32K human samples is achieved.
OK, well that sold me on deciding to just "go for it". Kind of like my anti-aging experimentation on myself...at 60, what the heck do I have to lose?

So, I'm going to give pod'lair my best, enthusiastic, willing shot - and see what happens.

For members of this forum, my experience could be enlightening. I won't disclose anything here that pod'lair does not want me to disclose, but I've been deeply down the cult path before without any real damage and with, overall, real benefit - so even if it does turn out that pod'lair has cultish aspects - I'm NOT saying it does, just hypothesizing here, Adymus - you will get the benefit of me going for it fully invested and committed; I'll either come out the other side saying, "Hey, this is real" or "Hey, I got a lot of benefit, but it does have problems".

EyeSeeCold posted: Identifying pseudoscience
I have to call you on this, EyeSeeCold, because this is the favorite attack method of the establishment on any new paradigm that threatens the status quo.

As a physician who is exceptionally open-minded (somehow, I don't think they mean to let any INTP's into med school; they screwed up when they let me in), I have been appalled, horrified, outraged, for decades now by the way mainstream medicine tortures so many cancer patients to death, extracting every dime of reimbursement money they can while they chemo and irradiate the patient - without the slightest hope of benefit in the majority of cases - while at the same time they attack any alternative paradigm by the use of the strategy of calling pseudoscience.

Judah Folkman was forced out of Harvard when he first proposed angiogenesis as a necessary process for the growth of tumors beyond the size of about a million cancer cells, his colleagues accusing him of pseudoscience (because, of course, they already knew everything important about cancer), and it was only Boston's Women's and Children's hospital donating a floor to his lab that enabled him to continue his research...which has now been bastardized by the drug companies attempting, with woeful results, to translate the proteins he discovered into cheap, cheap, cheap-to-manufacture organic chemical drugs. The suffering is vast, horrifying, and Folkman's work was almost destroyed by this tactic of attacking it by calling it pseudoscience, and the mainstream continues to fuck up his work by attempting to commercialize it solely for the largest profit possible.

So, been there, seen that too!!!

I suppose there's ONE advantage to having endured 60 years of human greed, arrogance and impenetrable ignorance.
 

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What Pod'Lair does not do...Get rid of "boxes"

How? If you define Mojo configurations as boxes, sure (in which case Socionics would do that as well), but I think that's a problematic understanding. A box conjures up visions of something that limits, whereas no Mojo configuration is more or less limited than any of the other ones. Pod'lair puts no artificial limits on what one configuration can and cannot accomplish; some may have to put in more energy and take a different route to get there, but as Adymus has said there very few things are outright impossible for any Mojos. Knowing your configuration and how to use it more efficiently will help you accomplish things more easily, if anything. It does nothing but expand your potential as a person.

Different Mojos manifest and behave in different ways depending on their own idiosyncrasies and how they have developed. There are pretty much infinite ways that this can manifest, and I've never seen Pod'lair claim that any Mojo "must" act in certain ways or do certain things. Having a configuration is not slavery. It's a starting point, the beginning of a never-ending process of evolution.

Pod'Lair's mojo reading makes identification of its subjective understanding of types 100%, supposedly. "Supposedly" because mojo reading is not an exact Science. It is pseudo-science.

Has Mojo reading not worked for you? Have you put in the time to learn it? I think if you did and saw how successful it is you would stop caring. If something works, it works. Doesn't matter if there is or isn't some scientific paper "proving" it. If this knowledge is helpful, I am going to take advantage of it. I am certainly not going to let it go to waste by waiting for the "experts" to give their opinions.

As for the idea that Pod'lair is a cult...well, the thing about "cults" is that they have to harm people. Can any of you name a single way in which Pod'lair is causing hurt and pain to others? Can you even see how an organization like this would cause hurt and pain to others? Most people are not physically present in California, and at this early stage everything is free. Even when it becomes necessary to charge money, I will point out other self-help gurus have done exactly the same thing; no reasonable person accuses Tolle or Chopra of trying to start a cult. You can take advantage of this knowledge or cast it aside, as you will. But I can assure you no one is on a commune milking cows, making their own clothes, or praying to Thomas. And no one has ever offered me a glass of Kool Aid.;)
 
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