Paranoia

[GTPJay]

Is it only me or are other INTP's extremely paranoid? I get so paranoid at times I think other people are listening in on my thoughts >_<

 

[Razare]

Do drugs often?

'cause if you're paranoid, stop, you'll end up with a mental illness.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

You should be ashamed, you sick puppy... oh gawd puppies too?

 

[ArcusDog]

I've considered many possibilities, but don't think I've ever become paranoid about them, per se.

 

[EditorOne]

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really after you.

And

"Go with God, my friend, but keep looking over your shoulder." Preface to a book I read 30 years ago and can remember neither author nor title. How's that for INTP detail rejection?

 

[GTPJay]

My paranoia doesn't come from me thinking people are after me. Its more like I feel the whole world can listen to my thoughts. As for drugs I recently started smoking weed from time to time.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Maybe you can run a sort of experiment. Try insulting someone near you very 'loudly' in your head and see if their behavior changes. I have a similar paranoia that my facial expressions betray my thoughts to people who know me well. People tend to ask me what I'm thinking all the time though.....

 

[Felan]

If the paranoia as you call it is particularly acute it might be worth visiting a psychiatrist (as they have an Medical degree, psychologists don't) about, to rule out an underlying medical condition.

 

[NoID10ts]

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Who are you people!?

What do you want?

Get out of my head!

And stop looking at me you invasive bastards.

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[Deleted member 1424]

You should be very ashamed of your thoughts noddy. I'm thoroughly disgusted!

 

[GTPJay]

If the paranoia as you call it is particularly acute it might be worth visiting a psychiatrist (as they have an Medical degree, psychologists don't) about, to rule out an underlying medical condition.

like what?

 

[Felan]

like what?

I'm not a medical doctor so I can't really offer any reasonably informed suggestions. What you are describing seems like it might be sufficiently odd that it would warrant talking to a doctor about, a psychiatrist would probably be even better. But I guess it depends on how pronounced this sensation of "others hearing your thoughts" is.

 

[Waterstiller]

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[Artifice Orisit]

All the talk about doctors and psychiatric conditions is making me paranoid about my paranoia.

...So if I'm a paranoid hypochondriac, is there anything actually wrong with me?
(It's like the "if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound" thing)

 

[GTPJay]

I'm not a medical doctor so I can't really offer any reasonably informed suggestions. What you are describing seems like it might be sufficiently odd that it would warrant talking to a doctor about, a psychiatrist would probably be even better. But I guess it depends on how pronounced this sensation of "others hearing your thoughts" is.

it gets to the point i freak out and start trying to stop thinking about anything?

 

[Razare]

GTPJay, let me tell you what pot does to some people. It sends them to mental institutions because they have an underlying condition. This underlying condition might never surface under normal circumstances, but appears because of drug use. People without an underlying condition might smoke pot their whole lives and never be affected. Pot doesn't affect everyone's brain the same, it's different for different people.

Cannabis / Marijuana (and other street drugs) Have Been Linked to Significant Increases in a Person's Risk for Schizophrenia

http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/cannabis.marijuana.schizophrenia.html

My friend Bill had two roommates in college. They lived in a house and all smoked pot together. One roommate began displaying symptoms of schizophrenia, such as paranoia. Bill and the other roommate did not recognize this right away. The guy kept smoking pot and eventually stayed up for several days without sleeping. After this, they talked with him some and figured out something was seriously wrong. He quite literally had lost his mind in a matter of days. He was a normal guy, a good friend of theirs and he went completely insane.

Today he resides in a mental institution, quite seriously believing he is Jesus Christ's reincarnation on Earth. The doctors said that smoking pot is likely what triggered the onset of his mental illness, and that it was severely damaging to his mental condition.

......

Now let me tell you about one of my neighbors who smoked pot. He began developing migraines, which was worsened by his pot smoking. Eventually he began having seizures and they had to perform brain surgery, installing a metal plate in his head. A few years later, he went out in the forest and shot himself.

 

[Felan]

it gets to the point i freak out and start trying to stop thinking about anything?

If it were me I would definitely talk to a doctor then.

 

[Thaklaar]

@Razare - How exactly do they tie the pot to the schizophrenic breakthrough? College age is when most schizophrenics first present anyway. And the second instance sounds like your neighbor had an organic disorder unrelated to the pot.

Now, that being said, I'd still say that GTPJay would be best served seeking professional help. And I'd also say that self-medicating for a psychiatric disorder with pot is a very not good idea. But that's still no reason to go all Reefer Madness here.

 

[Razare]

How exactly do they tie the pot to the schizophrenic breakthrough? College age is when most schizophrenics first present anyway. And the second instance sounds like your neighbor had an organic disorder unrelated to the pot.

You can't tie it directly, you're right, he might have become mentally ill even if he never touched pot. The thing is, statistically speaking, smoking pot significantly increases your odds of developing schizophrenia. Is it worth the risk to continue smoking pot when you're already displaying a symptom of the mental illness?

 

[Razare]

I have nothing against pot smokers either, I don't think there's anything wrong with it and I'd like to see it legalized. But for your own safety, you should quit the stuff cold turkey as soon as you notice any mental issue surfacing.

 

[Thaklaar]

You can't tie it directly, you're right, he might have become mentally ill even if he never touched pot. The thing is, statistically speaking, smoking pot significantly increases your odds of developing schizophrenia. Is it worth the risk to continue smoking pot when you're already displaying a symptom of the mental illness?

And I'd also say that self-medicating for a psychiatric disorder with pot is a very not good idea.

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[Felan]

Honestly it may or may not be a symptom of a mental illness. If there is a genuine underlying problem it can any of a large variety of things. It is sufficiently odd that talking to a doctor is absolutely the best idea.

 

[GTPJay]

damn razare your scaring me cause ive been having really bad headaches

 

[XIII]

Is anybody else seeing the irony?

 

[GTPJay]

Is anybody else seeing the irony?

?????

 

[Felan]

?????

I don't know what XIII is talking about either.

 

[GTPJay]

The more I read into this I think I have Schizophrenia, Now I'm terrified.

 

[XIII]

^ I'm the only one who's finding this ironic? Seriously?

 

[Cegorach]

Nah, I see it too.
I just don't usually post any more, so I wasn't going to comment.

 

[Thaklaar]

If you're talking about him being paranoid about his paranoia, that's not irony.

 

[GTPJay]

Does it have to do with my avatar?

 

[Razare]

Don't be terrified, GTP. Just lay off the pot and talk to a psychiatrist.
If you need someone to talk to, here's my MSN messenger email: razare1984@live.com

You can still make a coherent forum post so you're not there. The thing is if you got a symptom or two, you should see a doc for an assessment.

I have a few symptoms of schizophrenia, and I bet half the introverts here do. Having a symptom or two doesn't mean you got it, that's why it is important to see a doctor about it. If you've noticed the onset of these symptoms after smoking pot, then I would say it is very important to see a doctor about it because obviously something was chemically changed in your brain. That does not mean it isn't manageable or can't be dealt with.

 

[Razare]

Well your avatar does look a little screwed up, lol.

Don't get worried about it, though, GTP. I have a symptom or two of schizophrenia, that doesn't mean I have it. That's why it would be good to talk to a psychiatrist about it and get an assessment done by a professional. Even if you have a few symptoms, that does not mean it isn't manageable. Get proper amounts of sleep and lay off the pot. Both of those things are healthy for your brain.

 

[GTPJay]

I sleep alot just at weird times >_< yeah i gotta go see one. but idk how to tell my dad, i dont want him thinking im crazy. I'm 21 but im still under his health insurance so im not sure how to approach this

 

[Thaklaar]

Man, sick is sick, whether it's in your liver, your foot, or your brain. Has your dad stated opinions about mental illness that make you leery to broach the subject?

 

[Razare]

Tell him you aren't feeling well and you want to go to the doctor. Once you're at a regular doctor tell him your symptoms. Don't tell him what you think you have, doctors hate self-diagnosis. Just tell him you smoked some pot and are having funny thoughts, like paranoia. He will then refer you to a psychiatrist. This way your dad will go along with the doctor's advice without you having to tell him you're feeling odd. You probably don't even have to tell your dad about the pot, just tell it to the doctors.

 

[GTPJay]

Tell him you aren't feeling well and you want to go to the doctor. Once you're at a regular doctor tell him your symptoms. Don't tell him what you think you have, doctors hate self-diagnosis. Just tell him you smoked some pot and are having funny thoughts, like paranoia. He will then refer you to a psychiatrist. This way your dad will go along with the doctor's advice without you having to tell him you're feeling odd. You probably don't even have to tell your dad about the pot, just tell it to the doctors.

I had the paranoia before i started smoking pot though

 

[GTPJay]

Man, sick is sick, whether it's in your liver, your foot, or your brain. Has your dad stated opinions about mental illness that make you leery to broach the subject?

No its just like I dont wanna be treated any differently or anything.

 

[Razare]

Oh ok... well, just tell the doctor the truth about your symptoms. They'll figure out if something is wrong or not.

 

[GTPJay]

=( i dont wanna be on meds

 

[Red Mage]

Really? I want the meds but don't want to have to see a doctor.

 

[Felan]

=( i dont wanna be on meds

It could be a whole slew of things including very treatable infections. Until you know what the cause is its impossible to know if you will need to be meds.

 

[GTPJay]

I'ma go next week thanks guys

 

[GTPJay]

Really? I want the meds but don't want to have to see a doctor.

I dont wanna be like a shadow of my former self or anything.

 

[GTPJay]

Went to a doctor they did some blood work. The doctor doesnt think I'm schizophrenic, but suggested I see a psychologist.

 

[Felan]

Went to a doctor they did some blood work. The doctor doesnt think I'm schizophrenic, but suggested I see a psychologist.

Glad to hear that.

 

[GTPJay]

Glad to hear that.

Yeah I gotta go back today for the results. I ended up going yesterday because I was soo weak and in a haze. I wasn't able to visually focus on anything, today I still feel weak.

 

[Cryss Winters]

I'm not paranoid, it's all perfectly logical. =3

 

[GTPJay]

>_< still no results

 

[Felan]

>_< still no results

It's not surprising find the cause can be tricky. Are they going to run more tests?