No1 likes me

[own8ge]

Will you like me? ..Why does no1 like me?

 

[own8ge]

You could argue that a person will only like a person if that person can be useful but I can be useful I suppose? So I don't get it =/

I am ugly but I mean, you guys wouldn't know.. So I suppose that isn't it as well.

 

[Jennywocky]

Will you like me? ..Why does no1 like me?

y u talk like u txt? hrd 2 rd on frmz!1!!1!!!

pps. of crs peeps <3 u!

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Why does no1 like me?

Because you're always complaining about no one liking you?

Seriously though, you've done nothing terrible that I'm aware of... though I still get that vibe you're really a socially introverted ENTP.

y u talk like u txt? hrd 2 rd on frmz!1!!1!!!


pps. of crs peeps <3 u!

^This too. Jeebus...

 

[own8ge]

pps. of crs peeps <3 u!

Perhaps in some nonsense kind of way. Christmas is and always have been the most 'depressing' period for me. And here on INTPforum, I'm ignored most of the time >.>

Because you're always complaining about no one liking you?

Perhaps, but I consider it reasonable for me to complain. I mean, just look at me. Haha. (I dislike other people who complain about them selves, but I don't really complain you see > Thus not hypocrisy)

Seriously though, you've done nothing terrible that I'm aware of... though I still get that vibe you're really a socially introverted ENTP.

Incognito INFJ style. (Not that I am purposely incognito. I'm just not that straightforward to type nor label.)

 

[TheScornedReflex]

How many people have told you that they do not like you on this forum? I think you are looking for acceptance and when you don't find it you interpret it as no one liking you. I have no evidence to back this up so I could be waaaay off.

 

[Architect]

Tell us how you voted on this thread, then I'll answer the question.

 

[own8ge]

Tell us how you voted on this thread, then I'll answer the question.

I did not vote, but I can answer the question: "Do you care what people think of you?"

It matters, I can interpret this in many different ways and occasions. I will sample a few.
1) My appearances are utmost natural. I am a Rasta for multiple reasons. One of which is that I do not want to contaminate the Identity God/Nature intended for me. For me, to cut my facial hair, is to cut of a finger you don't need anymore or is disliked by other people. My body represents my soul, not what other people beauty idea's are. If someone says to me: Your hair looked better when you brushed it. I sigh deeply as I do not value conceptual beauty. I do not judge on appearances, I do not care if a girl has hair on her vagina or doesn't. I do not care about the height of a person.
2) Do I care what other people think of what I say or do? I do in a reason because I want my intentions to be objectively understood.
3) I could go on and on, But I digress and cause TL;DR, I can't handle 'indirective' questions. Often so I answer them intellectually on how the question makes no sense (Also at school tests and exams, of which often so, they grant me to be right.)

@Architect Hmm i really don't know how to answer the question. Will you elaborate on why no1 likes me though?

 

[own8ge]

How many people have told you that they do not like you on this forum? I think you are looking for acceptance and when you don't find it you interpret it as no one liking you. I have no evidence to back this up so I could be waaaay off.

I love you. Haha.

The genuine reasoning behind it though is that I have no friends. Not IRL nor on this forum.

 

[The Gopher]

But but... now I can't be your friend or I will feel like I have been manipulated *sob*

 

[TheScornedReflex]

Mmmm I can't really say anything helpful without thinking on it more. Do you have any acquaintances for school/collage/work?

 

[own8ge]

Mmmm I can't really say anything helpful without thinking on it more. Do you have any acquaintances for school/collage/work?

Sure, I am rather 'social'. But mates from school for instance. We never talk outside of school, we never hang out after school, nothing. I am never invited to events that all other school mates do are invited to XD, etc..

 

[typus]

My appearances are utmost natural. I am a Rasta for multiple reasons. One of which is that I do not want to contaminate the Identity God/Nature intended for me. For me, to cut my facial hair, is to cut of a finger you don't need anymore or is disliked by other people. My body represents my soul, not what other people beauty idea's are. If someone says to me: Your hair looked better when you brushed it. I sigh deeply as I do not value conceptual beauty. I do not judge on appearances, I do not care if a girl has hair on her vagina or doesn't.

Why did seafaring, European traders convert to Islam hundreds of years ago? Why have banks traditionally used marble and expensive decor in construction? Why do people wear suits to job interviews?

Conforming to "useless" social norms is an investment with associated costs but no direct returns. Its only purpose is instilling trustworthiness. A hobo starting a bank in a shed won't get very far. You're that hobo, your business is friendship, and potential customers expect fraudulence.

I do recognize that this comment is both rude and presumptuous. Sorry.

 

[own8ge]

Why did seafaring, European traders convert to Islam hundreds of years ago? Why have banks traditionally used marble and expensive decor in construction? Why do people wear suits to job interviews?

Conforming to "useless" social norms is an investment with associated costs but no direct returns. Its only purpose is instilling trustworthiness. A hobo starting a bank in a shed won't get very far. You're that hobo, your business is friendship, and potential customers expect fraudulence.

I do recognize that this comment is both rude and presumptuous. Sorry.

It is not rude or anything. I love this comment.
Point being though, is that I do not value people that judge based on social norms. I do not take deals with the devil. (Do I make sense to you?)

If I can't bring them up with me (To god), they certainly will try and pull me down. But I won't comply.

 

[TheScornedReflex]

Sure, I am rather 'social'. But mates from school for instance. We never talk outside of school, we never hang out after school, nothing. I am never invited to events that all other school mates do are invited to XD, etc..

Invite someone around to your house. Simple and effective way to start a friendship. Or find out you absolutely can't stand someone. I assume they have similar interests to you? There's your common ground.

 

[own8ge]

Invite someone around to your house. Simple and effective way to start a friendship. Or find out you absolutely can't stand someone. I assume they have similar interests to you? There's your common ground.

I have no interests really (Besides Typology and School). >.>
I could invite someone over, but it'll be like: And do what?

 

[TheScornedReflex]

Think of a goal you want to achieve out of the experience and work towards it. An experiment if you will. Got an Xbox or something? Gaming can kill time and you can gather info out of the person to help you understand them . I find it hard to explain the friend process just because me and my mates just gravitated towards each other without consciouse effort. In otherwords it just happened. But common ground helps.

 

[Etheri]

Perhaps in some nonsense kind of way. Christmas is and always have been the most 'depressing' period for me. And here on INTPforum, I'm ignored most of the time >.>

I'm not certain if what i'll try to explain is any relevant...

I just got home for christmas. I have a loving family, parents, 3 brothers and a sister. I'm the eldest son. I go home every 4 to 6 weeks. My brother, who lives in the very same building as I do in our uni's city goes home every single week. I typically live in a small room where i'm absolutely alone, and it rarely bothers me. I've been home for about 5 hours now, and I honestly cannot help it. I am surrounded by loving, caring people and I feel SO LONELY. I don't know why being 'home' makes me feel this way... Perhaps it's the realisation of my relationships with people being shit, perhaps it's just the fact that I feel so misunderstood.

Sitting here, alone, while everyone is asleep, reading INTPf and lurking the internet makes me feel more comfortable than having a happy and filled family day. It's not that I mind during the activities, but whenever my mind isn't occupied, it seems to seek in.

Also, I don't think people here dislike you. I can say that I don't. However, as is often the case with INTPs, we're terrible at expressing emotions, most certainly the good ones .

 

[Niclmaki]

Get a pet, dog or a cat. They make good companions.

 

[BigApplePi]

@own8ge

Will you like me? ..Why does no1 like me?

Here. Let me answer that for me. In general saying I like someone makes no sense. It makes no sense because I'm sure to like some things and not another. So if I say, "I like you", that must be an Fe thing meaning I like the particular engagement or talk we are doing ... or something like that.

In your case we had one conversation and I enjoyed it. But that doesn't mean I know you or you know me. In order for me to like someone I have to exchange seeing them more whole. That ain't simple or particularly easy.

 

[nanook]

i'd reply something if i wasn't so tired ....
you tried to reach out, i was unresponsive.
unresponsive is my standard response, it's nothing personal, i have situational criteria.
others already pointed in that direction:
perceptions, speculations, considered to be illusion by one, real enough by another.
inter-subjectivity not achieved.
too ... tired .... must ... abort .... all language activity

 

[Da Blob]

And how many people has one informed that they are one's own 'Liked' list?

If one has not invested a great deal in being likable, is it any wonder that there is not much of a return on that investment?

A lot of the positive affect and feedback that many of us antisocial types would like to experience more often is really only available as a reflection of our own actions - a response to our stimulation. One has to be the one to take the initiative and risks involved in forming a relationship, without any certitude that a relationship will result.

The old truism applies "If one wishes to have a friend, one must first be a friend"

This idea permeates many human relationships and often it is just one of those involved in relationship that does all of the work to form and maintain that relationship.

There are a lot of desperate people in the world that really need a friend, someone to pay attention to he or she, perhaps a child or a teenager. If one wants to be Liked, reach out to such a one and be friendly and be willing to do the work of human relationships...

Now if one insists that one just wants to be Liked by the intelligent and beautiful, the rich and famous - I have no advice to share...

 

[Tony3d]

You seem to cynical, I would probably kick you in the face if we were in the same room.

Stop trying to bring me down.

 

[Duxwing]

Will you like me? ..Why does no1 like me?

Own8ge, what if the answer were a resounding YES? A hug from Cognisant? A poem from Architect? A back-rub from me? Would you feel better, then? You see, and I don't mean to condescend, your desire to be 'liked' does not correspond to a need for affection or social contact; instead, it evidences a wound to your ego, or, as you'd put it, a deep cut in your soul. And from that cut flows hot blood that writes the words upon the page, "Why does no-one like me?" begging for release from the pain... yet release never comes.

So please, find someone who's a professional, someone who can help.

-Duxwing

 

[redbaron]

That's right, no one likes you. Time to give up on life.

"Aim low. Aim so low that no one will even care if you succeed."

 

[IdeasNotTheProblem]

Perhaps in some nonsense kind of way. Christmas is and always have been the most 'depressing' period for me. And here on INTPforum, I'm ignored most of the time >.>

Well this thread isn't being ignored...

I have difficulty this time of year as well. It might be a bit of S.A.D., and there's a lot bs that goes along with the holidays. We make it far more stressful than it ought to be. Besides, watching everyone else prance around all nogged up and frolicy while you feel like crap is hard to endure.

 

[INeedToPee]

why do you believe no one likes you?

if it's true that no one likes you, maybe you haven't given them a reason to like you. solution? give them a reason to like you. (by this i mean present yourself as someone to be liked, not go around and be someone's bitch lol) you don't seem like an unpleasant person so you should do fine

if you want to hang out with people outside of school, someone has to make the initiative (something i've learned upon entering college, i wish i had realized this earlier). if its not the other person, then it's you who has to. something as simple as "we should chill sometime" would do it as long as you guys have common interests. or try something new, i don't know. just make sure you don't come off as desperate. which it doesn't if you pull it off right because its socially acceptable to ask someone to hang out

 

[Fukyo]

I don't like you.

 

[Cognisant]

I like your honesty.

You horrible horrible person

 

[snafupants]

Why does no1 like me?

How should I fucking know?! Stop being so self-loathing and pathetic.

Will you like me?

Once you cease making threads like this one.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Get a pet, dog or a cat. They make good companions.

Agree but, a dog.

Spoiler

 

[Duxwing]

How should I fucking know?! Stop being so self-loathing and pathetic.



Once you cease making threads like this one.

Hurting his feelings will get him and us nowhere. Instead, let's try to understand his feelings and attempt to remedy his problem.

-Duxwing

 

[Brahma]

Hurting his feelings will get him and us nowhere. Instead, let's try to understand his feelings and attempt to remedy his problem.

What is this place, a psychiatric hospital ?

@OP : But, hey, I like you - just for saying that nobody does; I can associate with that sort of thing. I always tell myself "Nobody likes me, big deal. Like I care" but it's more like I'm trying to convince myself of what I think I believe.

 

[BigApplePi]

Hey own8ge. After reading this thread, here's more. You raised a great question. What does it take to be liked? And what is being liked for anyway? I'd like to be liked by those I'd like to have contact with. Then again I don't want too much liking else I will lose freedom. It took you some courage to bring this topic up because someone can say they dislike you. Why would one care or not care?

Being liked means protection and potential enhancement; being disliked means danger and potential destruction.

There are complications. Things can change. Someone can like you but if you betray them or be too rejecting, they may change their mind. Someone can dislike you but if you can see them, reach them, find something that matters to them, they can change their mind.

There is more. Liking or disliking can be open or hidden. If silent, it might not matter as much as if open. Liking or disliking doesn't have to be, but it can be contagious. Hence slander and libel.

 

[Solitaire U.]

Well I enjoy your presence...

But this "No one likes me..." shit is not what I've come to expect from you. What's the problem?

 

[spinner]

I like you.

 

[Reluctantly]

If you want me to like you and I decide I like you, does that mean I have power over you?

What is this place, a psychiatric hospital ?

I prefer the idea that it's more a reprieve from the psychiatry of the world.