@Cherry Cola-working would be supporting your country economically, therefore when your country goes to war you would be helping your country cause you would be helping to produce the necessary materials to go to war. So, yes I agree with you on that one. Every day at school we say the Pledge of Allegiance, there are kids in my class who don't say the Pledge of Allegiance because it says "under god".
What?!? Every day?!? But that is disgusting?!?

My god! The indoctrination!?! The propaganda!! How is that tolerable! That is just the same as what they do in Iran in some schools. Put an Israeli flag on the ground by the door, so all children must trample on the Israeli flag!
Whether you trample on another's flag or elevate your own into heaven itself is the same thing.
And not to mention the god aspect of it. You are connecting love for ones own country to god the creator so when you kill someone else oversees you do so for a place in heaven. Not that god exists...as an INTP growing up and growing and maturing you will soon find that out.
Now to me, patriotism would be to say that even if it goes against your religion because that's what America was founded on, freedom of religion.
I smile here as I write, but do you know, from a European persecutive, how weird that is? No Dutch or Swedish person ever, EVER, falls back on their constitution or ideals. Did you know that the USA had the first constitution in the world? But that the Dutch came second? And that the Dutch were the first to recognize the american nation? And yet, americans keep yapping about their Holy Constitution as if it were a bible, doing school projects on it and speeches and lectures and study the 'Founding Fathers' (just the association with father brings up my eyebrows - a father, a protector, a strong man, supporter of his family, such notions). And keep talking about it when they dissent with the government. What did the Founding Fathers say, what did they mean?
As if that has relevance to today's world. There is this american tendency to look back on those days with hope and longing.
When Obama came to The Netherlands recently, they brought out the Dutch constitution which is held in some archive, probbaly well protected with atmosphere control. But it is NEVER on display.
Most Dutch people do not know their rights if it they were hit in the face by them. I do not know them, apart from the usual freedom of speech, assembly, religion. I don't know what article one is without going wikipedia.
Interesting difference. I don't own a Dutch flag. I have a little Swiss flag that I got as a child on vacation :-) I also, believe it or not, have the flag of Alaska!
Actually, when you were born, it is possible I flew over your state or stayed in Seattle for a night :-)
Also, the troops that you send to war, die because they are defending your freedom. Imagine if they didn't and your freedom was taken away from you? Imagine if we didn't keep other countries in check like Iraq, China, Afghanistan, and North Korea.
But none of those countries ever posed a threat to the american citizens. Iraq was invaded because Saddam Hussein didn't act as a puppet for american interests. Someone had to be blamed for what happened when you were 4 years old.
Afghanistan was attacked because it harbored and trained terrorists, since no one liked Taliban, no one cared. But in fact, there the issue was major pipelines through the country.
China is your biggest trade partner. Why would China attack america? What a costly entreprise and the whole world would respond unkindly. They rather sell you the junk you buy in the mall!
Besides that, they own your country. America has so much debt and China bought a lot of it up. If anything, it is america that would attack China because when China sends the debt collector, you go bankrupt.
North Korea is no threat. An isolated country with a starving population that is totally under control of a dictator and who are watched very closely. They are kept at bay and not even China seems really interested anymore in dealing with them.
Lose the propaganda now your mind is still young and able! Or hang around here. :-) You'll wisen up to the world pretty quick.
In my mind, I think the world would be in complete chaos. There leaders are pretty crazy when it comes to ideas of how to run a country. In my mind, when a country goes to war they are defending their way of life, for the US, its our way of freedom. For Sweden, it could be something completely different.
No, america has pretty much the 20th century monopoly on crazy.
I think that if no person would willingly or unwillingly join any military, the nations would have no way of attacking other nations. And so all would be safe. Your way of life sucks. Not that we do much better.
“The de facto censorship which leaves so many Americans functionally illiterate about the history of US foreign affairs may be all the more effective because it is not official, heavy-handed or conspiratorial, but woven artlessly into the fabric of education and media. No conspiracy is needed.”
-- William Blum
Now that is why it is insufferable to Pledge the Allegiance.
If you refuse, but not because you do not believe in god, what will happen? What will your fellow students say or the teachers?