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Motivational speeches don't seem to motivate me

NormannTheDoorman

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I don't feel motivated after I hear somebody give me an inspirational/motivational speech.
 

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http://youtu.be/QjVkOnhJUcs

That said. -What are or were your expectations of listening to a inspirational speech?

Also, You must reach a point of pure nativity towards the speech. If this is not reached then I think the problem might be that you are to critical. Try to accept concepts you don't agree with to see the bigger picture. -And Then... Be critical (After you analyzed it naive)
-Listen with a pure nativity to understand their intentions as your own.
 
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Perhaps you'd be better motivated by a speaker that draws your emotion out of its depths instead of traditional "by-the-book-this-is-how-you-change-your-life" motivation. I admit that my fix for some time was Barack Obama's 2008 acceptance speech, and then it moved on to thoughts of ancestry, music, and absurdism.

Why do you do what you do? Why are you here? Who are you? (rhetorical questions).
 

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I don't feel motivated after I hear somebody give me an inspirational/motivational speech.

Generally, I'd consider this is a good thing. If not evidence of you being an independent thinker, at least you are not easily influenced by empty rhetoric.


But like thehabitatdoctor says, all you need is something that hits home and activates your emotions.
 

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contrary to EyeSeeCold
I consider it to be aloof and egoistic. That is just, based on what there is to sense.
It's like Look at me, I don't get motivated by stupid video's! I will post a thread as if I'm ignorant towards my own superiority!

To not get involved into a speech is one thing. To not feel involved in ANY speech however...
 
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Motivational speeches often involve appeals to emotion (you can even claim that that's all they consist of). You may be motivated more by possible solutions because they indicate a clear path to action. Unless you're just experimenting to see if motivational speeches *can* have an effect on you (or which specific one will, as it can give an indication of perhaps subconscious values), it might be more effective to have someone offer various courses of actions you can take.
 

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I'd imagine motivational speeches would fall somewhat flat among at least some INTPs. After all, INTPs tend to resist emotional manipulation. What do you feel when you hear a motivational speech?
 
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IMHO it depends a lot on the issue at hand. If it's something that allows you to use emotion to compliment logic, then that's some powerful stuff. Traditional motivational methods that first suggest options and then attempt to back them up with some weak feel-good-about-the-future emotion shouldn't appeal to xNTPs, or dare I say NTs or intuitives in general, because they're more than capable of coming up with suggestions and possibilities on their own. Hell, in some cases they're procrastinating because they've come up with TOO MANY suggestions and possibilities.

Admittedly this coupling of logic and emotion is probably easier for an ENTP to achieve because Fe is higher on our functional stack, but I can say beyond a doubt that when this happens it's a full declaration of war with my whole being focused on a given point, until said problem or issue is addressed. And then I can pull out that emotion later for other things.
 

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I'd imagine motivational speeches would fall somewhat flat among at least some INTPs. After all, INTPs tend to resist emotional manipulation. What do you feel when you hear a motivational speech?

I don't really feel anything. I may say "Hey, that may work" but other than that, emotionally I don't feel anything.
 

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When you listen to a motivational speech, you expect it to be motivational. Therefore, you analyze it for all signs of rhetoric, evaluating its soundness as a motivational speech. It's the undetectable rhetoric that inspires people, pathos and ethos. You, having logically broken down the speech into its basic components, recieve none of that "magical" effect.
 

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I feel that a motivational speech must follow some characteristics



  • It should be inspirational.
  • It should be interesting.
  • Real life examples must be there.
  • Some fun jokes and punches must be there.
  • The speaker should also be interesting and funny, so that the audience and listeners can enjoy the speech.

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If you feel no emotional attachments, you cannot be motivated by a speech.

Have you considered that you could be dead?
 

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This is one of the few that does it for me:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8kZg_ALxEz0

I really enjoy this video not because of what it shows but what it doesn't.

You know who wasn't in that room? Roma (Al Pacino), the office's top closer. Why? Because he knows his ABC's, won't put to that kind of abuse without a fight AND doesn't need that abuse to function.
 

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I never understood how a complete stranger who doesn't know the least bit about my speeches can motivate me to do any particular thing in any way.

Someone to whom I have explained a particular fix which I am in, though, might be able to give me useful advice sometimes. Useful advice can feel motivating to me.
 

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They don't motivate me either. They teach me a lot about the person giving the speech though. Those demotivational posters work pretty well though as motivation.

Incidentally, I like blue cheese.
 

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I don't really feel anything. I may say "Hey, that may work" but other than that, emotionally I don't feel anything.

Sounds like you listen, analyze it, see if 'it' would work. And then you do not need any emotional burden associated with it. Sounds good. Is there a bad side?

Well, sometimes being charged by speech is not a bad thing. When the Bastille was stormed, you were not waving a flag running towards the gates, but were thinking how best to get the key to the doors. :p By the time the runners had the door down and cried victory and had chopped off some Royal Heads, you found the key under the doormat!

You are the guy being yelled at by a teacher, waving his arms, pivoting and making desperate outcries, you standing there, blinking slowly, then saying: 'Okay, if I summarize this correctly, you want me to rewrite this paper?'

You are the guy patiently listening to an hour long explanation on the inner demons of a long dead writer only to conclude: 'Okay, so the guy was really pissed.'
 

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Sounds like you listen, analyze it, see if 'it' would work. And then you do not need any emotional burden associated with it. Sounds good. Is there a bad side?

Well, sometimes being charged by speech is not a bad thing. When the Bastille was stormed, you were not waving a flag running towards the gates, but were thinking how best to get the key to the doors. :p By the time the runners had the door down and cried victory and had chopped off some Royal Heads, you found the key under the doormat!

You are the guy being yelled at by a teacher, waving his arms, pivoting and making desperate outcries, you standing there, blinking slowly, then saying: 'Okay, if I summarize this correctly, you want me to rewrite this paper?'

You are the guy patiently listening to an hour long explanation on the inner demons of a long dead writer only to conclude: 'Okay, so the guy was really pissed.'



I'm too piss tired to even understand ( I can still type)

But I guess it means that as an INTP, I am overall useless.
 

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I can't even watch motivational speeches. They seem so cheesy and annoy me, for some reason. Not sure why. I suppose because something about it feels non-genuine. The seemingly planned body gestures, prolonged eye contact and fake smiles at the audience. This confident guy speaking on a stage doesn't really care about you or me, he's just happy to have a job.
 

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Starvation is the best motivator out there :D
 
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