Members from INFJf keep telling me I'm an INTP.

[scorpiomover]

FYI, the only reason I am no longer contributing to the discussion, is that I am far less familiar with how INFJs or ESFPs operate. So it's very difficult for me to comment on either at the moment, until I have considered the matter at length, to come to a feasible conclusion.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

FYI, the only reason I am no longer contributing to the discussion, is that I am far less familiar with how INFJs or ESFPs operate. So it's very difficult for me to comment on either at the moment, until I have considered the matter at length, to come to a feasible conclusion.

What do ESFPs have to do with this?

 

[ApostateAbe]

And they don't mean it in a nice way...


How much do you think Ti rubs off?

It doesn't rub off, and I think they were only flattering you. You are not INTP.

 

[Bird]

What do ESFPs have to do with this?

I changed my personality type on here to ESFP a
few ages ago... I suppose this is rather misleading
of me. I just thought it was funny.

 

[Bird]

It doesn't rub off, and I think they were only flattering you. You are not INTP.

Ever so humble you are.

 

[Reverse Transcriptase]

Woah! Bird, you were named in a thread talking about Dominant Ni!

http://www.infjs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18569

First post in thread:

Spoiler

Many people have asked me how I can very quickly gauge if claimed Ni dominants are 'as they say' before they change type many months later.

It's really quite simple.

To earn a place in the Ni dominant seat (which is much more exclusive than suggested by typology forums) one must be constantly seeking highly individualised external environments to the point of madness to the onlooker...

It is the nature of the Ni dominant to seek an 'individual' frontier. To be Ni dominant is to seek rejection of Se. Se is a function driven to relate in the moment to sensory input from individuals around you. Ni is the opposite, it seeks to expel individuals around you to free up mind space.

To locate the Ni dominant look for the individual who is willing to push their friends away for space often for extended periods of time and also to travel totally against societal grain in doing so.

This is true of all Ni dominants. We are incredibly fickle and particular beasts and you can see that it is 'borderline' present in the Ni 2nds, the ENxJs.

What you tend to find is that Ni dominants are both 'early adopters' and 'early leavers' and can also be frictional in doing so. The mindset of Ni is such that it is actively resentful that others have encroached on it's intellectual and psychological head space.

What I tend to find on Typology forums is 'weak Ni counter-rationalisation' from many members of typology boards to label themselves with a more 'favourable' in their view type because they feel organised and thus J and mystical and thus Ni... really, come on.

I was inspired to write this post after 1.5 years of a typology friend harping on about their INTJness and finally confessing today that they admit they are indeed ISTP. I know why they done it, they done it because they liked the 'mysticism' surrounding INFJ but were too 'T' to cut it and then it took some very heavy socionics investigation for them to realise they were lying to themselves.

In essence Ni is a very strange and fractuous mindset. The only member of this board who I can really say is 'Kosher' Ni dominant (from my limited experience) is @Bird . It took me some time to think about that and bring that realisation back into mind and it clicks.

Until you can clear that from the mind, you might as well look for the simpler factor: Id breakthrough, but this is not 100% in screening due to others being capable of manufacturing the required 'experience' in the correct 'order' to fool the logical classification.

Soo.... wanna tell us what it's like to have a dom Ni? :-P

 

[Bird]

Woah! Bird, you were named in a thread talking about Dominant Ni!

http://www.infjs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18569

First post in thread:

Spoiler

Many people have asked me how I can very quickly gauge if claimed Ni dominants are 'as they say' before they change type many months later.

It's really quite simple.

To earn a place in the Ni dominant seat (which is much more exclusive than suggested by typology forums) one must be constantly seeking highly individualised external environments to the point of madness to the onlooker...

It is the nature of the Ni dominant to seek an 'individual' frontier. To be Ni dominant is to seek rejection of Se. Se is a function driven to relate in the moment to sensory input from individuals around you. Ni is the opposite, it seeks to expel individuals around you to free up mind space.

To locate the Ni dominant look for the individual who is willing to push their friends away for space often for extended periods of time and also to travel totally against societal grain in doing so.

This is true of all Ni dominants. We are incredibly fickle and particular beasts and you can see that it is 'borderline' present in the Ni 2nds, the ENxJs.

What you tend to find is that Ni dominants are both 'early adopters' and 'early leavers' and can also be frictional in doing so. The mindset of Ni is such that it is actively resentful that others have encroached on it's intellectual and psychological head space.

What I tend to find on Typology forums is 'weak Ni counter-rationalisation' from many members of typology boards to label themselves with a more 'favourable' in their view type because they feel organised and thus J and mystical and thus Ni... really, come on.

I was inspired to write this post after 1.5 years of a typology friend harping on about their INTJness and finally confessing today that they admit they are indeed ISTP. I know why they done it, they done it because they liked the 'mysticism' surrounding INFJ but were too 'T' to cut it and then it took some very heavy socionics investigation for them to realise they were lying to themselves.

In essence Ni is a very strange and fractuous mindset. The only member of this board who I can really say is 'Kosher' Ni dominant (from my limited experience) is @Bird . It took me some time to think about that and bring that realisation back into mind and it clicks.

Until you can clear that from the mind, you might as well look for the simpler factor: Id breakthrough, but this is not 100% in screening due to others being capable of manufacturing the required 'experience' in the correct 'order' to fool the logical classification.

Soo.... wanna tell us what it's like to have a dom Ni? :-P

It apparently causes a lot of problems with
interpersonal relationships.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Scorpio, you mixed INFJf with INTJf, constructed a reply to a post that wasn't even directed towards you, and now you have been mislead about the ESFP selftype.


You're slipping. :S

 

[Meer]

This thread was quite a read.

 

[Melllvar]

This thread was quite a read.

Meh, it was ok. I liked the "Please do not take this the wrong way," one better.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

This thread was quite a read.

Meh, it was ok. I liked the "Please do not take this the wrong way," one better.

I am quite partial to the necrophilia thread.

 

[dark]

I am quite partial to the necrophilia thread.

WHAT?!?! I wasn't told about these until NOW?!?!

Edit, I took a read at the link to the INFJf thing, they all seem too... *cringes* nice...

 

[Chimera]

That's all right. You cannot be expected to know that as an INTP, I wouldn't have trusted just one test, had taken many MBTI tests throughout my life, and plenty of other psychological assessments as well, including a couple of psychometric tests in applications for jobs, and pretty much every one brought me out as an extreme INTP, until about 30. These tests matched my personality so precisely, that my real-life friends were totally unsurprised, even though no-one else came out like that on these tests, because no-one else I knew was like me.

All of this being irrelevant to the fact that you were quoting numbers from the mypersonality test to support your claim that you are "using a lot MORE Feeling and Judging" than others here. My skepticism of the typology system (not the cognitive process theory behind it) aside, don't pretend it's my ignorance of your past that lead me to believe that you put way more stock into "personality tests" than is reasonable.
​

That's also all right. You cannot be expected to know that as an INTP, I knew that, from when I was your age, about 7 years before you were born. How were you to know facts that were true, before you were even conceived? It would require intelligent independent thinking to do that.

And with that, I've lost all interest in any semblance of decent discussion with you, for reasons which should be obvious.
​

 

[EyeSeeCold]

WHAT?!?! I wasn't told about these until NOW?!?!

How have you missed Bird's famous attention threads?

 

[Jordan~]

If you're making an attention thread, you should at least do as the INTPs do and disguise it as a thread that isn't about you. Right?

 

[Bird]

How have you missed Bird's famous attention threads?

I'm not sure if this is an insult or not, but
either way I do not appreciate your claims.
It's good to know this is your interpretation.
I really do not think necrophilia should be a
crime and genuinely wanted to know other's
opinions on the subject.


You've such a one-track mind. Pity.

 

[Melllvar]

How have you missed Bird's famous attention threads?

Ti may not rub off on INFJs, but apparently INFJf rubs off on INTPs.

(this was not a compliment)

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I'm not sure if this is an insult or not, but
either way I do not appreciate your claims.
It's good to know this is your interpretation.
I really do not think necrophilia should be a
crime and genuinely wanted to know other's
opinions on the subject.


You've such a one-track mind. Pity.

That's fine, and I can't make any judgment on if you really did have any interest in authentic feedback on your threads(I assumed you did), but when you make topics of controversial and attention-grabbing themes, you have to admit that it serves a functional purpose as an attention thread - whether that was your intention or not. Don't you agree?

I don't intend to create nor foster personal drama, so it stops here. Any further extrapolations should be sent to PM.

 

[alrai]

I'm not sure if this is an insult or not, but
either way I do not appreciate your claims.
It's good to know this is your interpretation.
I really do not think necrophilia should be a
crime and genuinely wanted to know other's
opinions on the subject.


You've such a one-track mind. Pity.

You should just sleep on it, I'm sure your over-feeling it.

 

[Bird]

You should just sleep on it, I'm sure your over-feeling it.

You're*

And just so you know, that is toned down
from what I wanted to say!

 

[alrai]

You're*

And just so you know, that is toned down
from what I wanted to say!

I'm sorry. You're right.

 

[Jordan~]

wanted to know other's
opinions

others'* :P

I was defending you there, just fyi.

 

[Bird]

others'* :P

I was defending you there, just fyi.

Hahahahaha. I'm apostrophe happy! Nah, I'm
fairly certain I make way too many words
possessive incorrectly. I learned english learning
foreign languages and they don't do possessive
forms the same as english does. Throws me off.

 

[pjoa09]

These INFJs write a lot.

 

[dark]

How have you missed Bird's famous attention threads?

Must have missed it when I took my leave.

 

[scorpiomover]

Scorpio, you mixed INFJf with INTJf, constructed a reply to a post that wasn't even directed towards you, and now you have been mislead about the ESFP selftype.

You're slipping. :S

I do so love a helter-skelter.

 

[Masterlord]

Considering that one of those who typed you on that forum was VH, I would not take it seriously.

His grasp on typology is limited, understanding basic fundamentals in theory that are generally accepted and using those to back up and make appear reasonable his bias judgements, his over-generalities, and his bullying. He only wants to look in control and powerful, and on the INFJ forum, where most of the members would rather dish out compliments than correct him, is exactly where he can thrive, especially due to how they feed his ego and believe his every word simply because he knows enough of the basics to make it look like his further claims could be plausible.

Any member he thinks is rude or that he doesn't approve of he refuses to admit is INFJ, and because he's particularly adverse to Ti he tends towards typing those that especially annoy him as Ti Dominants.

Of course, I believe he's an ENFJ, hence Inferior Ti.

- - - -​

That aside, I don't believe you're INTP or INFJ (though I won't go into what type I think you are for now), but, as I post so minimally on forums and present little of my theories except those which I want to test, there's not much reason to believe what I'm claiming either.

When will you reveal your thoughts on her type?

 

[Cegorach]

If Bird asks I'll tell her what type I think she is.

It wasn't the point of that post though, just an additional observation.

 

[Minuend]

Really? You just have to ask?

Then what type do you think I am?

You know, the difficulty of knowing through text only aside. I like to put things aside Next to my desk I have a pile I have called "Aside" dedicated to that fact.

 

[SpaceYeti]

And they don't mean it in a nice way...


How much do you think Ti rubs off?

Well, Ti is better, so it must be infectious, and you must be getting infected, which means you're getting prettier and smarter!

Brilliant.

 

[Oblivious]

Bird: That offer to rub my Ti still stands.

 

[SpaceYeti]

... That's hot.

 

[Pride]

I like the resentment between certain members in this thread. It kept me smiling for a few minutes.

 

[Bird]

Bird: That offer to rub my Ti still stands.

You truly are the most generous person here.
Thank you so much <3