MBTI of Nations

[Seducer of the Homeless]

i was thinking, what are the Nation's MBTI as to where and how they as a country stand in the world

to start

USA - ESXP

 

[fullerene]

P? Really? Just because they don't care about most things doesn't mean they can't be narrow-minded or wrongly-focused Js.

I always thought (at least in corporations and stuff) that ESTJs sort of owned... then ESFJs had a large say when it came to social things. I would have said ESxJ better represents the US.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

as i think forgot to mention -

this is a discussion


erm, i thought maybe J but they just are so reckless and unplanned

 

[flow]

I'm pretty sure the majority of american presidents have been ESTJs... I could be wrong though.

 

[Anthile]

If we are not talking about stereotypes then the most common type should be ESXJ all over the world.
Though I do know that Japan is confirmed as ISXJ.

 

[walfin]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Where-World-Do-Belong-personality/dp/0979039703

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

not sterotypes - but how the country stands in the world

i think

Germany - INTJ (as a country - not as a stereotype of its people)

basically, if the country were to be personified - what MBTI would it be

 

[Toad]

The United States would have to be split into different categories. The West would be more ENFP, the east ESFJ, and the middle states...XSTJ. I know the world only sees one "type" of america, but the country is actually extremely diverse. The representation of it on the media is just horrible.

The Presidents have also been as widely ranged as it's people.

 

[Ermine]

Yeah. The US is way too big to go under one type. Most other countries are too sizable for that as well.

 

[Reverse Transcriptase]

Italy- 110% NF

 

[Agent Intellect]

where i live (west Michigan, USA) i'd definitely say XSTJ. there are a lot of ESTJ and ISTJ, with ESFJ in a close third. but i think that XSTJ is very much a 'working class' sort of mindset (even non XSTJ's probably act more XSTJ then in other social classes), which reflects my area very well. i don't think i've ever met another INTP in person, and my dad and my friend are the only other "N" people i know (my dad is INTJ and my friend is INFP). everyone else i know is some variation of sensor.

 

[Decaf]

I think we've had this discussion before, but I've always found it interesting. I think that group culture can certainly have a personality type of its own.

I don't know about other countries, because I've only ever lived here, but the US does not have one personality, but rather two. They can be labeled liberal, conservative, Republican or Democrat, but the politics don't matter nearly as much as the sense of familiarity and connectedness you feel with your group's personality. For that reason I don't believe that a divided public has only one personality that might be described.

I hesitate to label the two groups, but I'm interested what others think they might be. Its a shame that INTPs don't have the numbers or social influence to cause either macro-group to adjust to suit us better.


NOTE: I've read large sections of that book and most of its research may as well have been done from Wikipedia. Too large a scope, too little clarification per country.

NOTE #2: In case you're curious, I believe Portland has an above average amount of INTPness to its culture (one of the city's mottos is "Keep Portland weird"). I'm not certain that translates to any increased proportional population of INTPs, but it makes life here comfortable.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

@Decaf, I would say there are 4 personality types for the US. [The old south being xSFJ I'd say (that's where I live)].

The liberal/conservative label should also consider libertarian/authoritarian. Liberal and conservative libertarians can actually get along with each other better than either of those two could get along with the authoritarians of their type (liberal libertarians get along better with conservative libertarians better than with liberal authoritarians for example).

Liberal authoritarians make me want to punch them in the face while conservative authoritarians are evil incarnate. Just thought I'd throw that in there as well. Not that authoritarians get my blood pressure rising or anything....*must drink chamomile tea and calm down*

 

[Agent Intellect]

i almost wonder if there should be different functions for the personality of society then the ones used for individuals. perhaps america could be divided into "extroverted liberal authoritarians" (activist types) and "introverted liberal authoritarians" and so forth... just a suggestion off the top of my head (i'm sure someone could come up with something a million times more clever).

 

[Toad]

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

 

[Decaf]

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

A group without diversity is destroyed by any common weakness.

Its preferable to keep in play more than one dichotomous ideology or you tempt group think, but I agree in the sense that inner conflict should be kept as peaceful and productive as possible.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

right, maybe a better way to play this would be...

How do the Nations see each other - as in, if we are discussing our opinions on the MBTI of a personified USA, that only members outside of the US contribute

 

[ViS]

China would most certainly be ESTJ.

=/

 

[Android]

This thread brought up some interesting thoughts for me.. mainly, that I have a very difficult time perceiving the USA as a whole. I even have a hard time perceiving the state I live in as a whole (Washington and Oregon both have a noticeable difference in ideologies east to west).

 

[Crayon]

To me, the USA is EXTJ.
But more like S, i think.

This coming from my ( i guess) European beliefs that most americans are usually boastful of their grandness and usually not very kind towards other countries. Or kind, but in a self-seeking way.
I think we also see them as S because most people who appear on TV fit some kind of stereotype (jock, nerd, emo, that kind of thing). But their stereotypical diversion can be seen as N as well, so im unsure.

The J is just the feeling you get from them.
And the E is obvious.

... i don't really like America. I think you can tell. But it's all probably media induced so... it's complicated too.

How about Spain? ESFP maybe?

P.S- I'm an ignorant when it comes to USA's history, so i'm just rating for what i see on TV. I think EXTJ fits for the history too though.

And the country's not always similar to their leaders and decisions. America is made of it's people.

Against me, there's also this theory that says we can never have an exact notion of something so big as America's population, so our opinnions will always differ. Only if we individually meet every person will it be relevant, and that's impossible.

So... yeah, it's all relative and differing.

(This post was made in a rush, so you'll have to forgive any mistakes.)

 

[Zero]

The US is extremely extroverted.
But why, why would you do this? It seems pointless to try to give an exact MBTI to world nations. I would say, in order to function, most nations are going to encourage Sensing or being S-type. S types are the majority and memorization is big in other school systems.

Beyond expression and sensing I kind of doubt it's possible to easily define a nation by the MBTI. I find the very idea of doing so kind of odd.

 

[Devercia]

What we are really doing here is infusing culture into the concept of nationhood. Nation=/=culture. It would be much more 'doable' to isolate various subcultures or cultural elements. For instance: The Protestant Work Ethic = ESFJ, Emo = IXFP etc.

@Zero, Your an INTP (I assume), and you think a pointless mental exercise is weird?