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Looking People in the Eyes

Jon C

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I've noticed that it's not so much that I have a hard time looking people in the eyes, but moreso looking people in the eyes while I'm thinking. I can look you directly in the eyes, but as soon as I need to analyze something or recall something from memory, I look off to the right or left. I think it's my way of drifting back into introversion for a second to gather my thoughts, but I've heard that it can sometimes be taken as a sign of lying. Do you think this is an issue of an underdeveloped extroverted intuition? Maybe extroverted thinking? Has anybody else struggled with this and discovered any practcal solutions?
 

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I have the exact same problem. I can't look people in the eyes constantly, it builds up some sort of anxious pressure inside of me. I have to look to the left or right every few seconds to 'release' this eye-contact pressure.

The only solution I have is making it a bit of a 'game', to try and prove to yourself you can look people in the eyes for a longer period of time.
 

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Looking people in the eye without addressing them or saying anything is awkward. When you look someone in the eye it's like saying "Hey, you! Yeah, you! Something needs to be communicated!" but looking at someone's eyes doesn't communicate anything on it's own. Which makes it kind of rude to look people in the eye for longer than a moment without saying something to them.
 

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Eye contact feels quite weird.

The only time when does not feel weird is when a conversation is intresting and you feel comfortable enough to let eye contact be an unconscious process. Instead of actually thinking about or focusing on making eye contact.

I think if you focus on what the other person is saying rather than on their eyes, it should be easier to maintain. So taking no notice of them while you think and stare at their face.

When I make eye contact with people I don't know very well, I regularly look at a direction, the main reason is because I feel its rude to stare at someone and people seem to feel discomfort when making eye contact with me (since they regularly look at other directions as well). So if its me or them who is going to look away for a while, I would rather be the one to do it, because its more convenient for me.
 

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Looking people in the eye without addressing them or saying anything is awkward. When you look someone in the eye it's like saying "Hey, you! Yeah, you! Something needs to be communicated!" but looking at someone's eyes doesn't communicate anything on it's own. Which makes it kind of rude to look people in the eye for longer than a moment without saying something to them.

That I understand... But what I mean is WHILE you're saying something. While you're in mid conversation. Like maybe in a statement of 3 sentences, looking away for the split second in-between sentences to gather your thoughts.
 

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I never thought of this as a problem. Doesn't everyone do that? As long as the other person thinks you are paying attention to the conversation, it seems perfectly okay to look away while thinking.
 

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I've heard that making eye contact is an S thing, whereas looking all around is an N thing.
 

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The anxiety thing phased out during highschool, I have no problem looking people in the eyes nowadays. However, I still sometimes get uneasy about random eye contact with strangers because it makes me self-conscious. Other times, I don't care and accidentally stare. As for conversation, it's not a problem either, but I do exhibit tendencies of looking up to the left or right as if accessing some information. It happens unconsciously and very predictably.

It doesn't seem like an issue, but it'd be interesting if people thought it was weird behavior.

I've heard that making eye contact is an S thing, whereas looking all around is an N thing.

Yes, my observations continuously affirm so.
 

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In accordance to your MBTI percentage chart, you exhibit an extremely high percentage in both introversion and thinking. This could be linked to Asperger's Syndrome, as the traits associated with those of IxTx seem to fall closer to the symptoms than other types. I'm not saying that's what you have or probably have, it's just merely something to consider.

Asperger's Syndrome Symptoms:
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/tc/aspergers-syndrome-symptoms

"Avoid eye contact or stare at others."

"Appear to lack empathy." (Lack of a developed feeling side there.)

etc., etc.
 

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I have a similar problem about thinking or story telling and looking in peoples eyes at the same time. My issue seems to be stemmed from what I read in others eyes. More often then not there are conflicting issues between exchanged words and what Im seeing inside their eyes.. Not to mention that conflict of inner expression vs. outer expression stops my own thoughts and makes me ponder theirs. I dont engage deeply with many peoples eyes simply because I dont like what I see. There are a handful of truly exquisite beings Ive encountered out there in my life. Those are the few souls whose eyes I could gaze into forever. :)
 

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I have struggled for 3 years, with my eye-contact. You see when someone is talking to me, I always get lost in my own thoughts. I begin to look to the right or left. Of course, I only pick anything that matches my thoughts/interests. Then in response, I do a facial gesture.

My solution to the problem was, to sometimes pretend and/or practise my eye-contact on to their's. It seemed like I over-done it, I went looking into people's eye's far 'too' long. They got uncomfortable(Or overwhelmed).

I know for sure, when I was a child. I was very poor with eye-contact. Till I grew up. But besides all that, my tragic story began(A Psychological Condition). Which pretty much worsened up my eye-contact and every other body-language to me. So I unnecassarily gained alot of knowledge about eye-connection.
 

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practice.



Eye contact is good for connecting with people. (completely rational to learn how to do it...)
Also; I suspect it's easier for women to keep eye-contact.

Because Women R Dogs.

Morphine - Women R Dogs - YouTube




But really; You can learn how to be comfortable keeping eye-contact while communicating with a person.

It's not dangerous. (though it might be instinctively scary at first.)
 

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My introverted tendencies are really starting to fizzle out as I get older. I have no problem at all staring into a person's eyes, however I still look around because I feel like a weirdo every time I'm daydreaming and staring so I make a conscience effort to look around. I can make conversation without anxiety as well I just need to focus on the conversation and not drown out what they're saying cuz I'm daydreaming and can't hear a word they're saying even though he's 3 feet away.
 

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I think it's a little bit of an introverted thing, it's not so much I can't look someone in the eyes but that I can't for too long. But sure, anyone could practice that, I guess.

@op: it sounds like Ti or Ni to me; it seems gauged by looking away, not through eye contact.
 

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Looking at a human face especially the eyes is actually very mentally stimulating (whether or not you find them attractive), it activates a variety of areas in the brain. When you're thinking over particular issue, your brain needs to focus on it and it does this better without the distraction of also having to look at someone.

Liars usually avert their gaze while they're telling a false story, which is a different eye contact pattern to when you look away to think when someone has asked you a question.

Also with right handed people you can be sure when someone looks to the right they're accessing the emotional and creative areas of their brain and when looking to the left they're undertaking more logical problem solving processes.

Saying all this, I'm South Asian so its an unspoken rule that its impolite to look into people's eyes, I doubt anyone I communicate with thinks I'm untrustworthy but many think I'm shy. Its about the overall image you give off too...
 

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I am much like the centipede who is asked how it walks. If I focus on eye contact, I always end up staring or trying to avoid staring. Both look very unnatural (and the second just looks weird-not even like lying).
 

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my eyecontact is completely natural. as such it reflects my acute realtionship with the other person. reflects my response in the situation. do i welcome him, do i feel threatened by what was said... and such. like everyone does. people differ in how welcoming they are of others in general, i guess. i love to have eycontact with strangers (during little interactions), unless they are scary zombilike individuals. i use eycontact to soften up angry people. but in specific sitations i often get a bit phobic and that distracts.

but for a lot of topics i have to close my eyes, just to acces the relevant cognitive functions. that is verry odd and in a professional context i wouldn't dare doing this out of fear for being considered retarded. i have a bad memory and a bad ability to visualize (and thereby memorize) factual details, that another person brings up (like instructions, "take the paper labeled XDF338 and the sheet 3238 and put them in the drawer 30354 then ..." wtf!!!). if i get a sentence like this, i have no choice at all and must close my eyes - on most days at least. i do that a LOT more often then most people.
 

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Now that it's mentioned, I realize I also don't look people in the eye when I'm just thinking, which is also sometimes at the same time I'm speaking to them.

Perhaps it's worth trying closing one's eyes when either actually thinking, to signal your apartness more directly. Ditto when thinking while speaking, closing eyes could be a neutral signal that you are in your head working and not trying to avoid engagement because you've got something to hide. "Shifty eyed people" are generally regarded poorly. Closing your eyes, who knows, perhaps it's a better signal that avoiding eye contct.
 

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I usually look for too long or not at all. My solution has been to raise my voice and suddenly talk a little faster and look at them in the eyes during that time. After I say the important bits, I may look down or wherever.
 

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After revisiting this thread I feel the need to expand upon my link as I realize how the meaning of which can be misconstrued. I was completely ignoring the whole "lie detector" aspect of the link, instead I was trying to add into the discussion the correlation between eye movement and active thought. I have a tendency of not feeling like explaining myself fully as once I grasp something in my mind, I sometimes falsely assume it is apparent to others through very simplified communication.(lazy?)

I think that my method of eye contact can be broken down into 3 different behavior patterns. Active listening, active disinterest, and deep thought. The latter two being the behavior patterns in which I do not make eye contact.

1. Active listening is when I am interested enough in what someone is saying as to forego my internal thoughts on the matter until they have concluded their communication with me. This allows me to consume the whole of their communication efforts towards me, and then pass judgement on it based on my internal world.

When I lose focus, for some reason or another, I may find that my eye contact drifts away from the communicator, but can naturally flow back. This is often due to a subconscious thought(intuition) that either the person is wrong, I do not understand what they are saying, or I have the need to integrate what they are saying with my known thought base in order to continue to understand the conversation. In the above situations, my eye contact returns as soon as I have achieved my goal, naturally and without energy, with the caveat of it occuring in about <1 second. If I do not achieve it in less than a second, I force myself to make eye contact again as to not miss anything. This takes energy


Unfortunately, situation 1 is rare so I have learned to adapt by forcing myself to make eye contact in some social situations in order to focus externally to the person communicating with me as to limit the internal noise. It is very energy consuming as I must make an effort to do so. I suppose my goal should be to minimize the energy needed to focus externally.


2. Active disinterest is the behavior pattern I employ when I could give two shits about the subject. It is an external autopilot, with an internal thought process on some other stimuli. Because I am actively thinking, my eyes are directed towards whatever direction of eye movement that correlates to the stimuli I am consuming internally. At the same time, I am able to continue an external conversation with the minimal amount of energy expenditure as I have deemed it not "worthy" of the energy expenditure required for #1.

3. Deep thought is when I am trying to explain something externally, but must utilize my internal thought process to remain on track with the discussion and not be distracted by external stimuli. Because I am actively thinking, my eyes are directed towards whatever direction of eye movement that correlates to the stimuli I am consuming internally.

This behavior pattern(3) makes public speaking an anxiety provoking experience for me. To be a good public speaker, one must engage the audience and project outward. However, in order for me to form a coherent presentation, I must think. Which in turn means no eye contact whatsoever. Which in turn means I would look like a weirdo. The interplay of wanting to think and not wanting to look odd causes my anxiety.
 

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"I have a tendency of not feeling like explaining myself fully as once I grasp something in my mind, I sometimes falsely assume it is apparent to others through very simplified communication.(lazy?)"

It could be simpler. You "grasp" it in your mind. Explaining your intuitive process to others who don't have it is a high mountain to climb. Assuming it's apparent to others may simply be your polite self-deception to avoid the wearisome toil of explaining color to blind people or whatever.
Usually I get "smart ass" when processing ahead of others, then "arrogant, condescending geek" when I try to explain it. :-) All in all, silence is sometimes less stress.
 

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I've heard that making eye contact is an S thing, whereas looking all around is an N thing.

That sounds extremely simplistic, similar to assuming someone is lying just because their eyes go to the right when they are asked a question. There are many reasons why an S might want to scan the environment and many reasons why an N might make eye contact.

I think I've been an eye contact person for the last twenty years or so, at least. I don't stare into people's eyes when they are staring into mine for prolonged periods of time, but when they are talking, I look at their face the entire time because I'm interested in what they're saying, so when they look my way, they do also see that I'm interested. It's pretty natural for me to look at whatever I'm examining or who I am communicating with.

When I'm talking, I don't necessarily stare at the person I'm talking to. I look at them regularly, but I don't think I stare at them, my eyes might move at various points as I think and communicate. To be honest, people do a variety of things when they talk, and it's really not about these specific behaviors that might occur during the conversation but the overall composite effect that leads to someone perceiving you are either interested or not interested.
 

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"I have a tendency of not feeling like explaining myself fully as once I grasp something in my mind, I sometimes falsely assume it is apparent to others through very simplified communication.(lazy?)"

It could be simpler. You "grasp" it in your mind. Explaining your intuitive process to others who don't have it is a high mountain to climb. Assuming it's apparent to others may simply be your polite self-deception to avoid the wearisome toil of explaining color to blind people or whatever.
Usually I get "smart ass" when processing ahead of others, then "arrogant, condescending geek" when I try to explain it. :-) All in all, silence is sometimes less stress.


This is undoubtedly the case. I said "lazy" mostly in jest. Sorry to derail the thread for a second, but in the framework of the MBTI system, can this process be explained by specific functions at work? If so, which ones? I do not feel this warrants a completely new thread to tease out.
 

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" in the framework of the MBTI system, can this process be explained by specific functions at work?"

Dunno. I think it's a universal human reaction to get tired of having to explain color to blind people. The intuitive function, which sometimes is obviously a very fast but subconscious assimilation and ordering and reordering and questioning of information that allows us to easily reach an insight or conclusion not apparent to others, would seem to be a function at work. Not even being able to explain the function sort of goes with the territory for everyone except psychologists who study this stuff, don't you think? I mean, do we know how hormones work, or electricity? And would we get tired explaining it? I would; I do. We're kind of like pedestrian grade Sherlock Holmeses. When we do actually explain the pattern of information that produced the conclusion, it makes it obvious and the person who was previously amazed or puzzled actually becomes somewhat disappointed and makes us feel like we were grandstanding or something.

I really wouldn't worry about it unless you're dealing with someone whose good opinion you wish to keep. Even then, you have to be careful not to sound condescending. 'Elementary, Watson," is not what they want to hear. :D
 

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You know it seems to be something I have issue with when addressing extroverted feelers in particular, but for example when talking with my ISTJ friend it's not much of an issue... strange.
 

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I have to intentionally force myself to look people in the eyes. If I forget, I come across as introverted in many respects. But I do try to keep at it.
 

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I don't have a huge problem with this anymore (unless I'm just on autopilot) but I can think of a few situations where I don't make eye contact and I should

1. When I'm coming up with a thoughtful answer or something from memory
2. When I'm being introduced to someone I don't find all that interesting (I never think it's that obvious)
3. Elevators (I feel like that's just weird)
4. With pronounced ES types that enjoy making small talk (I mainly do it on purpose then so they wont fill my brain with nonsense)
 

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I don't think it's unusual at all to look someplace other than directly into someones eyes while thinking as eye contact is a very powerful thing and takes up a lot of resources. This haven't too much to do with type I'd presume, and in fact, I think the more emotionally in tune one are, the more one should experience a certain, almost all consuming, emotion when glaring into someones eyes. Someone I know, for instance, who I tend to look at as socially incompetent, can constantly go on staring into someones eyes while talking with no problems at all, while most would find it highly distracting.
I have experimented some with eye contact with strangers and while it is uncomfortable, and can be interpreted as creepy, as space yeti mentioned, it can also be a beautiful thing. One can find magic in that moment.. only to have it ruined by actual follow up conversation. Their aura of fascinating mystique suddenly dwindles into mundane trifle. I'm looking forward to the day I'm proven wrong though.
 

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I have a similar problem. It feels like pressure bearing down on me, but rather than being mistaken for lying, it's usually, at least in my case, taken as signs of being bored with a conversation. Even if it's the best conversation in my life, I must look away at times. I think it's because, to me, eyes are extremely powerful, capable of showing so much emotion that it causes me to have sensory overload quickly.
 

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When I am really focusing on recalling information and being creative at the same time, I look away while talking to the person. I have been studing body language. The result is becoming pretty good at reading people because of the body cues. It is as if the other persons eyes and body language are distracting me. This happens more often when I have not prepared myself to be "extroverted" in this situation. Most of the time, prior to entering a room I have an agenda that I have already analyzed. This means I have an internal script I am reading from. Deviation from the script causes the prolonged break of eye contact while speaking.
 

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I also have difficulties while looking into peoples eyes. Especially when accessing certain ideas or thoughts, abstract thoughts mainly.

In social settings I avoid most peoples eyes for long periods of time...something about most peoples eyes get my gears spinning in a way I would rather them not. I honestly think most peoples eyes arouse contempt wihtin myself. I see most people as bumbling beasts when I gaze into their eyes and see whats behind the curtain.

The more I perceive thoughtfullness in the person the more I tend to make eye contact. Oh yes, I get called many names for my...zeal. Im working on it.
 

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The more I perceive thoughtfullness in the person the more I tend to make eye contact. Oh yes, I get called many names for my...zeal. Im working on it.

I tend to look for thoughtfulness when I make eye contact. I can easily "see" if they're intelligent, or at least a little.
 

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Whenever I look someone in the eyes for too long I feel like I'm challenging them... The other day someone pointed out how I didn't look them in the eyes much, that my eyes were looking everywhere and then back at him.. I didn't take it too offensively, because he didn't come of as being offensive about it.
 

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Like what PH said, I try to pick up on what the other person is thinking or feeling when I make eye contact, if at all, but when they see me looking, their demeanor changes. So often times when I end up trying to look, I'm trying to do it without them noticing, consequently distracting me from what they're saying.

I give up on it. :slashnew:
 

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Eyes convey the true emotion you're feeling at the moment.

Making eye contact during conversation usually means that you're actually listening to the other person.
 

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Making eye contact during conversation usually means that you're actually listening to the other person.

I had to laugh at this because it's usually the case that when I'm looking you in the eyes, my mind is somewhere else; and if I'm not looking at you, I'm intensely concentrating on your message.
 

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ESC nails it. Usually when I'm looking into a girls eyes.. uhh.. nvm
 

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It's hard for me to look into someones eye's when they talking, sometimes I catch myself doing it, and start thinking, and get distracted from the conversation at hand, and try to go back, but when i wasn't looking in there eyes, I could understand everything so much easier. Guess it's just my thought process.
 

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Ha really interesting the majority of people here have this 'issue' or whatever you want to call it, I've got the same thing. Just feels sort of awkward making eye contact when you're listening to someone, having to keep your head still and you kind of feel the physical expression you've put on your face, sometimes I feel like when I'm listening to someone and making eye contact and think of how they see me, my face is just completely neutral and it looks like I'm not expressing any emotion... just really weird.

Not making eye contact whatsoever is just as bad though, makes you look uninterested, which could be the case generally haha, but makes me feel rude.
I feel like it's easier to make eye contact when you're like partially smiling, and especially when you're on the move... Easier too when you're doing the talking and not all the listening...
 
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