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Link between SAT scores and music preference?

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:) Whew! Glad Radiohead and Beethoven are 2 of my favs and I hate all rap/ hip hop:

http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/...ple-listen-to-beyonce-according-to-new-study/

http://musicthatmakesyoudumb.virgil.gr/index.php

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I was on the radio dial the other day and happened across one of those rap stations. OMG! I was literally laughing out loud at the bombastic, outright retardedness of the music and lyrics. The song was called blackwidow. Get ready to laugh like you might laugh at a traincar full of retards having wrecked itself miserably (turn the bass up):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUCluOzMejw

I can feel my IQ dropping a point per second as this sewage is being piped into my ears.

What in the hell are these people 'singing' about? LOLZ!!! Is this what all the Es and Ss and Fs and Js cluttering up the world really, truly like vibrating in their skulls? er, skullZ? LOLZ

I know I know I'm cynical. But its true I looked up the Billboard top 100 the other day and OMG America is full of retards with a vote.

There is no hope. The only hope at this point is interplanetary space exploration with the hope of finding a planet capable of being colonized by folks with >95 IQ.
 

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Pretty sure I've written my opinion on this before. But in essence: If you only listen to chart-music I'd expect less intelligence and creativity on average as your letting your environment dictate your tastes for you. If you deviate from that it suggests more deliberate consciousness over taste, and the likelihood that you're probably more thoughtful in other ways as well.

It's more about conscious individuation from the majority than the particular genre/ artist imo. There's plenty of interesting hip-hop that I'm sure a few members, if they were present (ESC, AgentIntellect), would go to task with you on.
 

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:) Whew! Glad Radiohead and Beethoven are 2 of my favs and I hate all rap/ hip hop

Hate ALL rap and hip hop?

Hate to tell you this but open mindedness is a strong indicator of intelligence, perhaps one of the strongest.

Hate is negatively correlated as I'm sure you are aware.

I can feel my IQ dropping a point per second as this sewage is being piped into my ears.

Maybe you should stop then I'm not sure you can spare any more.

What in the hell are these people 'singing' about? LOLZ!!! Is this what all the Es and Ss and Fs and Js cluttering up the world really, truly like vibrating in their skulls? er, skullZ? LOLZ

Who cares? This has nothing to do with MBTI. Don't be a fucking loser.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmIH8Sua0Yw

Just to add on though, SAT scores are usually reflective of socio-economic status more than anything, my friend's done a sociological study on this.. (can't find her study atm).
 

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But Greg's reaction isn't all that unfounded either.. music nowadays have turned way too much to the instinctual realm. Architect posted this nice video a way back about musical history and it pretty much hits the spot.

Here you go.
 

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Lol fucking weak senses if hiphop gets to you. Take it for what it is. Everything is interesting.
 
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Low IQ music is as interesting and useful to the brain as living on a diet of pure refined sugar is interesting and helpful to the body.

Silly youngsters and your Equality paradigm so many of you seem stuck in (not really your fault as the education system had programmed you from birth to believe in this false de facto religious observance. Young people actively preach it and are militant about everyone else converting to it as well. May as well preach Allah Akbar while you are at it).

The equality paradigm is like a dog chasing its own tail or emptying the ocean one bucket onto the beach at a time. Rubbish is rubbish. LOLZ
 

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This is pathetic even as a parody of itself.
 

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There's a lot of rap that gets blasted at all hours in the little ghetto I live in, and the lyrics are typically very angry, violent, and full of swearing. As far as that goes, in and of itself, I don't care; catharsis and expression are what they are. If it has a point, I might find it interesting enough to be entertained (although because of the circumstances and the timing under which I've heard most rap, I have grown to dislike most of it. I get really pissed off when I get woken up at 3 AM or 6 AM because some drug dealer is blasting rap out of their car as they pass through the alley, and it happens a lot).

There's a lot of poverty, drugs and violence in this area I'm in that has a big rap following. I don't think that belligerence or hate has anything to do with "intelligence," although a person's focus is going to shift from book smarts to street smarts if their physical safety is at risk (probably lowering test scores revolving around book smarts).

Belligerence indicates that someone has become frustrated and desperate. There's going to be a reason for it somewhere: poverty and trauma being pretty good or understandable reasons. Someone who struggles with words and abstraction (especially the ability to mix and match personal experiences, putting themselves into someone else's shoes) might turn to more aggressive means more quickly.

An enduring hatred (not just a temporary fit of anger that happens in the moment) suggests that a person has given up on one or another person or peoples' innate goodness or manageability.

Attacks born out of hatred also indicate having given up on the usefulness of problem solving by means other than the more desperate and immediate tactics, like loudness, intimidation, power or manipulation versus reasoning, compromise, descriptive "I think/I feel" statements or diplomacy in an area of disagreement.
 
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There's a lot of rap that gets blasted at all hours in the little ghetto I live in, and the lyrics are typically very angry, violent, and full of swearing. As far as that goes, in and of itself, I don't care; catharsis and expression are what they are. If it has a point, I might find it interesting enough to be entertained (although because of the circumstances and the timing under which I've heard most rap, I have grown to dislike most of it. I get really pissed off when I get woken up at 3 AM or 6 AM because some drug dealer is blasting rap out of their car as they pass through the alley, and it happens a lot).

There's a lot of poverty, drugs and violence in this area I'm in that has a big rap following. I don't think that belligerence or hate has anything to do with "intelligence," although a person's focus is going to shift from book smarts to street smarts if their physical safety is at risk (probably lowering test scores revolving around book smarts).

Belligerence indicates that someone has become frustrated and desperate. There's going to be a reason for it somewhere: poverty and trauma being pretty good or understandable reasons. Someone who struggles with words and abstraction (especially the ability to mix and match personal experiences, putting themselves into someone else's shoes) might turn to more aggressive means more quickly.

An enduring hatred (not just a temporary fit of anger that happens in the moment) suggests that a person has given up on one or another person or peoples' innate goodness or manageability.

Attacks born out of hatred also indicate having given up on the usefulness of problem solving by means other than the more desperate and immediate tactics, like loudness, intimidation, power or manipulation versus reasoning, compromise, descriptive "I think/I feel" statements or diplomacy in an area of disagreement.

A keen analysis. I really appreciate this perspective. The rap hip hop stuff makes more sense now (if that is possible in the sense of understanding what all the angry 'singing' is about).

Pretty sad folks are stuck in that negative feedback loop.
 

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This is pathetic even as a parody of itself.

Aye. I just woke up and in my drowsy state I can feel my IQ points being subtracted just from witnessing this godawful thread. I'm not sure what's worse, the retarded tabloid tier title or the smug self aggrandizing poop on the inside.

I still think this might be a troll thread and the Poe's law is applicable here.
 

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Re: Confirmed: Smart People listen to Radiohead/ Beethoven. Stupid people Hip Hop

I really have no idea why you should hate rap and hiphop.

The artists here use those genres to communicate issues such as LGBT issues, poverty, etc.

Maybe the issue is about specific artists rather than the genres itself?
 

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A keen analysis. I really appreciate this perspective. The rap hip hop stuff makes more sense now (if that is possible in the sense of understanding what all the angry 'singing' is about).

Pretty sad folks are stuck in that negative feedback loop.

I wonder why
 

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how sad...i wonder how much you miss out on, how much of what this world has to offer is filtered out by your silly grandiosity

having distaste for certain music is one thing. coining certain music as "intelligent" or "unintelligent" is another and shows that you're missing the point entirely
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Do you need a new keyboard? You're missing three commas, an apostrophe and a question mark. I thought you listened to Radiohead and Beethoven?
 

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Why is Tool so low on the list??

And why is AC/DC so high??

What about MY subjective preferences!? :mad: I scored 1390 on your SAT but Jay-Z is so low, so low :(
 

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i wonder wut wuld happen if people listen my music
where would you put it on the table according whatever system it follows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fii0UpgL7c
 

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Radiohead eez fawr thuh lame niggaz. Rachmaninoff is fawr thuh niggaz wif game.
 

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Sounds like people are uneducated, not stupid.

Astro: relating to the stars
Logy: study or learning
Nomy: body of knowledge or system of laws
 
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Sounds like people are uneducated, not stupid.

Astro: relating to the stars
Logy: study or learning
Nomy: body of knowledge or system of laws

Is it not stupid to go through life being uneducated? There are these things called the internet and libraries and school LOLZ
 

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Is it not stupid to go through life being uneducated? There are these things called the internet and libraries and school LOLZ

It is not.
The stupidest thing you can do in life is to exalt your own self-importance based on arbitrary concepts that you personally deem to be valuable.

It doesn't matter if somebody confuses astrology and astronomy when they exhibit kindness, humility, and compassion, for example.
 
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It is not.
The stupidest thing you can do in life is to exalt your own self-importance based on arbitrary concepts that you personally deem to be valuable.

It doesn't matter if somebody confuses astrology and astronomy when they exhibit kindness, humility, and compassion, for example.

...because empathy trumps gravity. Gee I can't fly only because I don't Belieb in empathy enough LOLZ
 

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*deep inhalation*

No, it's not stupid. If you start off with no education, how are you supposed to learn of its importance? I have more respect for those that never learned the value of learning than I do for those who waste their privilege looking up intelligence affirming studies all day in order to escalate their ego-trip even further somehow. :confused:

srsly.

Edit: and quit this flippant shit. It doesn't suit you.
 
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...because all intelligent roads lead to privileges. Not discipline, hard work (working on becoming educated), positivism and politeness (as opposed to the rap and hip hop paradigm), gratitude, morality, ethics, honesty, etc...

The average age on this forum is in the 20s. Good grief you younger people's brains are wired in some funny funny backwards ways.

Cart before the horse style.

Can't fault your generation as a whole though. Blame the teachers and priest class (media, government, etc) who taught the garbage you were obligated to consume whilst your sensitive dendritic arbors were being trimmed.

But you guys and gals don't have to be stuck forever in the negative feedback loop your derelict teachers left you in. Brains are capable of making new connections at any age.
 

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Enlightenment trumps all.

You are very kind, DrGregoryHouse. I'll repeat this all day if I must. Let the anger flow through me.
 

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Maybe you should use your vaunted intelligence to convince us with calm logical argumentation instead of writing in this alienating manner. Just a suggestion.

Also, I never really made the connection that the media is equivalent to the medieval priest cast. Seems like an apt comparison.
 
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Enlightenment trumps all.

You are very kind, DrGregoryHouse. I'll repeat this all day if I must. Let the anger flow through me.

Studies have shown that positive affirmations are extremely effective.:)
 

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If you're gonna look at correlation you should look at all of it, as in include the socio-economic backgrounds and cultures of the people being discussed here.
 

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something something your generation something something INTP something something intelligence something something IQ something something LOLZ
 
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I listen to Counting Crows and U2. GENIUS!!!
 

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U2 is fucking stupid shit. The statistics are wrong.
 

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Agreed with above in all respects.
U2 is terrible.
 

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i had to listen to this stupid shit for a whole hour in one of my classes. the bias will remain till time stops :cat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO89_H7GqaQ
 

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DGH think for a minute:
(a second is not enough to focus).
Take 11 slow breaths focusing only on breathing,
then,
ask yourself this question:
How does it matter for Y if X perceives Y as [insert word]? (Try to understand the system)
Consistently how does it matter for Y if Y perceives itself as [insert word]

If you have these answers, you are ready to answer:
How does it matter for Y if X, Z or more perceive Y as [insert word].
Why I'm posting this?
Well, there's a useful answer out there and you might find it.

Actually if you ever think about it, post your thoughts somewhere here for our (hopefully including yours) mutual amusement.
And geniuses listen to classical music.
We should be more honest than that.
Only geniuses can fully appreciate and understand classical music.

precaution winkyface: ;)
 

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And geniuses listen to classical music.
 

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Funny, I think most of the guys in Radiohead are NFs, particularly Thom.

Radiohead was my favorite band...when I was a late teen. Then some of the material started to seem kind of whiny.

I thoroughly enjoy Beethoven, and definitely Bach. I can groove to various rap and hip-hop acts, particularly stuff more on the technical side ("Infinite" by Eminem is golden, got into Kendrick Lamar this summer, and some of Andre3000's stuff).

I think I might be INFP, and last IQ test I took I scored like a 105...so I guess you wouldn't mind having me as your neighbor on that space colony?

I'll be bumpin' Lil' Wayne every day. :)

Rachmaninoff is fawr thuh niggaz wif game.

Got some of his stuff off a P2P once, burned it onto a CD. When I got around to listening to it: really low quality, scratchy, had to turn car stereo up so air was permeated with the fuzz, at the loud bits (you know what I'm referring to) speakers would snap, crackle, POP!...but all of that only accentuated the darkness and despair of his piano compositions. Good stuff. One of my favorites for sure...
 

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I renamed your thread to resemble something less click-baity.
 

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If you compare Lil' Wayne to Radiohead, sure, whatever. You'd probably find the same disparity (or greater) between Lil' Wayne and Lupe Fiasco.

There is inspired, stimulating, intelligent output from every genre except for jazz. I propose that we stick Shostakovitch firmly in the Modern Classical category, and throw away the rest. .. fuckin' jazz.. takin' our wind instruments and marryin' our women...
 

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I don't follow this chart. My SAT score was higher than the chart accounts for. Does this mean I should've transcended the need for music altogether?

Silly youngsters and your Equality paradigm so many of you seem stuck in (not really your fault as the education system had programmed you from birth to believe in this false de facto religious observance. Young people actively preach it and are militant about everyone else converting to it as well. May as well preach Allah Akbar while you are at it).

lolwat.
Is no one going to touch this?
What's inherently wrong with preaching that Allahu is Akbar?
 

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I don't follow this chart. My SAT score was higher than the chart accounts for. Does this mean I should've transcended the need for music altogether?

No it probably means you wrote the SAT after they overhauled the structure and introduced a different scoring system :cat:
 
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