Klonopin

[DesertSmeagle]

Yo. Anyone here a pharmacist or psychiatrist? Theres this magical pill, that apparently cures social anxiety and makes you kinda euphoric and shit. Well i wana try it really bad, just to experience a day in life where i can be myself at school. It would be amazing. Theres only one thing. Its a highly addictive drug. But people are stupid and take it everyday and get addicted to it becasue stupid doctors tell them to. And the withdrawal is apparently hell. How can i get my doctor to prescribe me this drug? i know she will say, oh no thats a bad drug, you wil get addicted. I NEED something if i wana get through college.

Ive taken a bunch of antidepressants and only cymbalta slightly helped. I was on it for like 5 months, and then the doctor told me to just stop taking it suddenly. I knew this was a bad idea, and i went into cymbalta withdrawal for 2 weeks. It was fukin weird. I felt as if i were in a dream, and everytime i moved my eyes, my brain felt like it was having mini orgasms haha..really weird experience..Lots of hypnic jerks, and strange dreams. Ill make a video about it one day. but after the withdrawal, i felt an overwelming dread that my life was a waste of time. And this is still continuing today, i have no motivation for life.Im not suicidal. i should get back on cymbalts. Stupid fucking doctors dont know shit.

But ya, klonopin. How can i get this? Anyone know any other mystical magical miracle alliteration drugs? Because im not gonna get rid of social anxiety through positive reformations on youtube. I need some drugs. Id really like to get a PET scan. What should i tell the doctor to get me a PET scan? Im curious what my brain looks like. Things that come easy to people are ultimate challenges for me..well things like social interaction at least..maybe i have aspergers haha..but i doubt it..ill get a PET scan and they will say my brain is dead, and will see something that looks like the sauron eye from lord of the rings in my head.

What are your xperiences with "crazy pills"as I call them.

 

[Adymus]

I think I might know a better cure for social anxiety...

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I urge you to change schools rather than pop some pills.

 

[snafupants]

pet and spect scans although detailed feature radioactive dye as tracers. opt for an fMRI...bollocks, what is this? you do not need a brain scan. the link pertains to an avant garde depression treatment, which might not be entirely, um, risk free, and is definitely not cost free. more like psychoanalysis in the latter regard.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=transcranial-magnetic-stimulation-rtms

 

[Anthile]

Eh, that doesn't seem legit. Not to mention that drugs are by no means 'magical'. They fuck around with your body chemistry. Taking that stuff without medical supervision is a terrible idea. Talk to your doctor and make it clear how you feel about the situation. If that doesn't work, consider looking for a new doctor.

 

[Latro]

No pill is magic. This one in particular, though, appears to have a pretty solid tendency to make depression WORSE, just by a look at wikipedia.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Well i wana try it really bad, just to experience a day in life where i can be myself at school. It would be amazing.

Yourself on drugs != Being yourself
And no it would not be amazing. It would be sad, because everything in your life would be just an illusion.

Don't use drugs as a crutch man. Just seek some help at your school if your anxiety is really that bad. You don't realize how much people are willing to help others in need, some feel it's their duty!

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Ya i know. There are probably worse long term effects than what im trying to cure. I know that one day in the future, there will be completely new and different treatments that will work. Im just sayin id like to try it and see what happens. I wouldnt take it all the time, just want to experience it. I think if i could have one day with no anxiety, it would be easier for me to continue more exposure therapy...that seems to work. Ive done it on smaller scale like talking online on the ps3 and videos on youtube. just have to work my way up.

and ya adymus haha id totally try ecstacy..that be cool. just once...isnt ecstacy just a suped up SSRI? it creates a bunch of serotonin which is a feel good neurotransmitter.

 

[snafupants]

^ exactly, your first recourse should be other people, even if it feels awkward initially. it will pay off in the long term, versus the short term band aid of faux panacea meds.

 

[snafupants]

Ya i know. There are probably worse long term effects than what im trying to cure. I know that one day in the future, there will be completely new and different treatments that will work. Im just sayin id like to try it and see what happens. I wouldnt take it all the time, just want to experience it. I think if i could have one day with no anxiety, it would be easier for me to continue more exposure therapy...that seems to work. Ive done it on smaller scale like talking online on the ps3 and videos on youtube. just have to work my way up.

and ya adymus haha id totally try ecstacy..that be cool. just once...isnt ecstacy just a suped up SSRI? it creates a bunch of serotonin which is a feel good neurotransmitter.

as a rule of thumb, phenomenal highs swap for commensurate lows later; even if the low is piecemeal and slow to manifest. that said, every nervous system is slightly different. just put a lot of thought into whatever you do.

 

[ElderToadstool]

MDMA was actually used to stimulate interpersonal connectivity before it broke out of the psychiatric community and into the mainstream. Highly recommended. Also marijuana, aside from being awesome, is also a great way to meet people as it is a very popular drug.

Also, if you're looking for some kind of profound, life-changing psychological experience may I suggest psychedelics? They essentially hold up a mirror to your face and force you to confront your problems head on. That is, if you come in with the right state of mind. May be a bit more difficult but also, in my opinion, more worthwhile as it has the possibility of facilitating permanent change.

 

[Agent Intellect]

I would try more natural anxiolytics.

l-Theanine has worked decently for me. It's the main 'relaxing' ingredient in green tea (that you can get as a supplement). It works synergistically with caffeine (essentially you get all the positive effects of caffeine without any of the negative effects). It's non-toxic and has no overdose threshold.

5-Hydroxytryptophan is the intermediate chemical between tryptophan (proteinogenic amino acid) and serotonin. This would work synergistically with a supplement of l-Theanine and hypericin (Saint Johns Wort) which functions like a weak SSRI and dopamine reuptake inhibitor. 5HTP can be found in supplements as well.


The rest of my posts suggestions aren't really tested for use as anxiolytics, but depending on how it affects you, it may help:


You might benefit from taking vinpocetine and Acetyl-L-carnitine (make sure it's the acetylated kind - it's the only kind that will make it to the brain; you can probably find a supplement that also includes alpha lipoic acid) synergistically (both increase cerebral blood flow) with piracetem (the most inexpensive racetam, a nootropic) although depending where you are that might require a prescription (it doesn't in America). If you take piracetam I suggest taking a choline supplement (alpha-glycerylphosphorylcholine works better than choline bitartrate) because piracetam improves acetylcholine function (and can, essentially, cause choline supplies to 'run dry' which can cause headaches and fuzzy thinking).

I have also read that galantamine works synergistically with acetylcholinergic supplements (and it can also increase chances for lucid dreams and out of body experiences).

 

[EditorOne]

I know someone on the drug you're asking about, and it doesn't work for everyone or even work the same way for everyone or even work for a person the same way each day.

Social anxiety is a bummer, probably most people in here know what you're talking about. Perhaps the way to deal with it is obliquely. If you make it the thing you're worried about, you'll worry about it. Try this: Any campus, high school or university, has groups of people built around ideas and projects, whether it's forcing the administration to offer a course on the comedy of George W. Bush, helping the people living in cardboard huts on downtown sidewalks, or playing bridge. Check around, find one you can identify with on a content basis, and then just join. Focus on making the goals of the group happen. Be active, volunteer to do work you're comfortable with, and social anxiety will evaporate into the shadows.
There's no magic to this. Most human beings have, to some degree or another, a genetic predisposition to work with a few others in tight groups to get something done. It's an evolutionary gift you can put to work, no matter how much of a loner you are.
One of the things I did in college (yes, I can remember that far back) was work with the student government on what might be called communications logistics. It was a time (1968-71) of huge political activity, and the student government was often faced with trying to get the word out on suddenly called meetings, squelching rumors, all that stuff. I devised a network so that we could produce a flyer in the SG offices and, within 90 minutes, have it delivered to every dormitory floor and Greek house on campus. It was Syracuse University, so it was a pretty big effort. It required me to track down people on every dorm floor willing to accept the flyers and distribute them, and a smaller network of people with vehicles to take bundles of flyers to those folks. Needing to get people involved to meet the goal of the exercise overcame any introverted impulses. Being the organizer was satisfying, providing a worthwhile service was satisfying, and being with other people focused on the same task meant social anxiety was simply not an issue, since socialization was a natural byproduct of the effort.

I hope that helps.

 

[babrock]

I am personal a rather enthusiastic booster of better living thru chemistsry. Timothy Learn explains this position better than most anyone else. I forget exactly what he said tho at t moment. Admittedly there are costs to a decision to take this option as there are costs to taking any option.

It is entirely possible that drug use is what has framed up my memory. I think tho that I was forgetful and absent minded before I ever did try drugs.

I was initial intending on launching into a dissing of that particular drug but actually I was getting klonipin mixed up w klonidine, and I was simply flabergasted that anyone would swear by a blood pressure medication as a desired mood enhancer. My wife takes the blood pressure need. I am not particularly familiar w t mood enhancer.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Just practice being social in small groups, and advance from there. In middle school, I was incredibly awkward and such (Seriously. One time someone I got along with and who lived down the road from me asked for my number, and I asked him why he wanted it. That's pretty clueless). I actually believe playing Dungeons and Dragons helped my social skills. Running a whole fictional world where imaginary characters made by real people do things require you to seriously consider social interactions of the fantasy world, while dealing with real social interaction at the same time, but it's all in the form of a game.

 

[Plumbata]

Klonopin, or Clonazepam, a member of the happy family of benzodiazepines, can be useful for general anxiety, but it has some rather pronounced muscle relaxant effects and other physical effects as well. The high is not a high, more like a drunkenness, at best. It is usually used recreationally as a booster for opiates, or along with drinking at bars so one can get drunk for less money, which is pretty stupid and potentially dangerous.

If you aren't trying to be sluggish on a daily basis, perhaps Xanax, aka Alprazolam, or Ativan aka lorazepam are better fitted benzodiazepines for you. Get the generic versions as they are far cheaper and no different. They are more strongly indicated for anxiety than klonopin. Lorazepam is given to people with acute anxiety, such as before a plane flight or prior to a trip to the bowels of an MRI machine, and alprazolam to crazies who need to be chemically controlled, or people who are generally anxious all the time.

Ultimately, you should just try very hard to cope with social situations without the use of drugs, or get some ativan and dose yourself only when you feel that you will need the artificial crutch. The closest I ever came to being medicated was when i got a 1 month scrip for Adderall, but that was just for occasional test-studying and paper-writing purposes. A person on mood-altering meds is not their real self, and I prefer reality personally, even if it can be difficult sometimes.



"Ask your doctor if this medicine is right for you..."

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Cool. Are you a pharmacist? Haha. I just need something that will get rid of anxiety. I've tried every ssri there is, an now I'm on cymbalta, which seems to help with depression but not anxiety. Do benzos actually alter your personality? I think that I'd be more myself at school with a bemzo than I am now with anxiety. I'm a very extraverted intp, but at school I'm a completely different person than I am at home to the point where people at school wouldn't notice me if they saw me without anxiety.

 

[Plumbata]

Cool. Are you a pharmacist? Haha.

A recreational pharmacist, if anything . I'd look into the excellent information provided by A I, as some of those suggestions may help quite a bit and ultimately be healthier.

Do benzos actually alter your personality?

Not really. They may attenuate some aspects but they are nothing like SSRIs.

I think that I'd be more myself at school with a bemzo than I am now with anxiety.

Makes sense I suppose.

I'm a very extraverted intp, but at school I'm a completely different person than I am at home to the point where people at school wouldn't notice me if they saw me without anxiety.

So do you want to continue being noticed, or do you want to slink comfortably to the periphery? Dunno if I follow you. You could probably talk to your doc and get a trial prescription of some benzos and test them out. Take it 45-60 minutes before school and you should be able to ride out the whole day without much in the way of "useless" anxiety. They are slightly addictive though so don't take more than you actually need for longer than you need.


Also, as others suggested, a few doses of LSD or a few grams of Psilocybe cubensis might be what you need to allow you to more-or-less objectively analyze your problems, and then determine how to fix them without meds. That, or make you freak out .

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Hahaa ok. Ya ive researched benzos and have seen that they are incredibly addictive.. I dont think that should be a problem if i take them right tho..

I know they are used for epilepsy patients...do they just get rid of panic attacks or do they actually get rid of anxiety itself?

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

I think I might know a better cure for social anxiety...

Don't even think about it!

 

[Hadoblado]

perhaps a little late...

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

permanent change.

So you should make damn sure that what you get in the end is worth it. Russian roulette might have helped some people "change permanently", but when you have a 5/6 chance of blowing your brains out, you might want to rethink your approach.

 

[Beat Mango]

Prozac (fluxetine) has been quite good for me. Not sure how long it will sustain for as it's only been about 2 months, but good so far.