Kinesthetic Knowledge

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Any other athletic INTPs out there!?

Of all of us conforming INTPs who have adopted displaying our personality profile in our signatures (and I thank those who have, it's a lot of fun to read your posts with the context of your individual mind understood), I seem to be one of the few with higher kinesthetic knowledge. I think I read that Tiger Woods is an INTP, but it seems that INTPs by and large aren't much for sports...hmm

 

[NoID10ts]

I see no reason to ever run unless something that is bigger and substantially more dangerous, is behind me.

 

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I get bored with sports. Learning them is fun, especially around others who are also learning (because that's where I can actually beat them- because I can learn a bit faster). The case example is the badmitten unit in my high school PE class.

But... yeah, the intellectual stimulation isn't quite there.

I did cross-country and track in high school one year. My brother (an INTJ) was very good, and he went to a running coach to help his form. I tagged along, and I developed good running form. But I still have average strength and average endurance, because I don't care enough to train. I can sprint efficiently, but I'll still be done after a few blocks.

Now, if Warcraft 3 could be considered a sport....
Well, it'd be the same thing. I enjoy learning it, but once I figure out the system I get bored easily, and I don't see the point in repetitively throwing myself to the online wolves. Sure, winning is awesome, but losing sucks, and isn't there something better to do with my time?

 

[Kidege]

I joined the soccer team in school. I recited poetry/sang to myself through all the training sessions to make up for the lack of mental work.
I can't handle sports with many rules and many things happening at the same time: it's like an overload of external stimuli.
I briefly joined a gym but quit because it was too noisy and I couldn't hear my own thoughts.
What a pattern, huh?

But my body can move, so I guess it does have kinesthetic knowledge. I'm good at dancing and half good at swiming and jogging. As long as I make the rules and my mind is busy, movement is okay.

PS. Check on Decaf's comments on martial arts.

 

[grey matters]

I like sports I just suck at them. No coordination.

I do an hours worth of working out about 4x a week. Working out can get boring I haven't found a really good way to occupy my mind while working out that does not involve a lot of money (like paintball or martial arts classes do). Any (cheep) suggestions?

 

[flow]

Basketball and tennis are my sports, though I have to admit I haven't played basketball in months (sadly). I've always been an effective, though inconsistent shooter. I've wondered why I'm still inconsistent after years and years of playing. A while back while shooting and thinking about how I can't seem to ever shoot two shots the same, I decided I had limited residual memory. Of course, I then realized I don't even know anything about residual memory. I've tried wikipedia, and it doesn't know anything about residual memory either. Hmm maybe I should make a topic about Residual Memory, and see if anyone can define it..

 

[bdubs]

I'v always considered myself a fairly clumsy person. I'm the guy who will trip over the top stair of a staircase after successfully navigating it 100s of times before. I have not taken part in organized sports in several years, but I do run on a treadmill/ lift weights a few times a week. I think my kinesthetic was around 45% when I took the test.

 

[Death]

I like sports but I still not good at it,any of it.

 

[Kidege]

I think my kinesthetic was around 45% when I took the test.

Which test did you take?

 

[Artifice Orisit]

I see no reason to ever run unless something that is bigger and substantially more dangerous, is behind me.

No, no, you run at it, running away just tells it your good to eat.
Nothing wants to eat something that's insane, it could be infectious.

I greatly enjoy swimming, under the surface everything is quiet and peaceful, makes me wish I could stay down there. As for coordination, I can move very fast when I focus (hands, like for catching stuff) but on instinct I'm terrible, I don't have much muscle-memory.

 

[Fleur]

I`m average, but I`m fairly good at running short and medium distances.
I have an awful coordination (what do you want from person who still can`t really tell left and right side apart?), but I`ve figured out how to cover that in games with ball - I approximately orient how askew I`m throwing/kicking and then calculate where I have to aim to hit the mark.

 

[Melkor]

No, no, you run at it, running away just tells it your good to eat.
Nothing wants to eat something that's insane, it could be infectious.

I greatly enjoy swimming, under the surface everything is quiet and peaceful, makes me wish I could stay down there. As for coordination, I can move very fast when I focus (hands, like for catching stuff) but on instinct I'm terrible, I don't have much muscle-memory.

Oh no..no I tend to disagree...

First you do the silly walk in a diagonal direction...

then....when the creature is confused, you pull out a umbrella and begin to sing.

Then...

When it turns to leave making cuckko signs to itself, you jump it, and stab it in the back of the neck.

 

[Dissident]

Im trying to fix my clumsyness with Kung Fu, so far so good. I dont have problems with strenght, endurance, etc, but my coordination is below averange.

 

[Ogion]

I never considered myself a sports guy. I am athletical, in stature, but not in training.
For half a year now i do Aikido, and i really like it. My trainer says i am agile and have very good coordination. Of course my condition is not the best, but that is a matter of training (lack of)...
I really love Aikido. It teachces body control very well (and is fun of course).
So at first i didn't feel adressed by the thread title, but maybe i am...

Ogion

 

[NoID10ts]

Oh no..no I tend to disagree...

First you do the silly walk in a diagonal direction...

then....when the creature is confused, you pull out a umbrella and begin to sing.

Then...

When it turns to leave making cuckko signs to itself, you jump it, and stab it in the back of the neck.

Your method is intriguing to me. And it doesn't involve any running! But this jumping thing, I don't know. Seems like a lot of work.

 

[loveofreason]

Blue men can't jump


Back in the day before I resembled a sack of potatoes splitting at the seams - yes I can dimly remember - I discovered I actually had a great talent for cycling and weight training.

Yep. I was into body building. "sculpting" I think they call it now when a girl does it, just to differentiate from all the steroid riddled grunt stuff. Pound for pound I was stronger than a lot of guys I knew. It was fun. I could chin off my fingertips on door jambs. All training for rock climbing.

Very productive outlet for anger. Kept me 'grounded' when I wanted just to drift away.


*sigh* 'scuse my trip down memory lane.



Mind over matter.

 

[Melkor]

I.e Don't mess with Lor, dat ho' can throw a mean punch.

and Noidiots...

damn....thats too much to say...you need a proper name...

I'll just call you noddy.



If you bring a spring board, or a small stepladder, (carried by a friend) then you can use that ot gain the correct height.

Alternatively, as suggested by the Americans (who are of the course the leading pioneers in extreme laziness) you can simply pull out a rifle and shoot it in several seconds, with minimal effort.

 

[Ermine]

I'm pretty good at basketball, but I'd say my kinesthetic knowledge fails me in that I don't know what I'm capable of and it's hard for me to guess.

 

[krisa]

I have NO coordination whatsoever. i'm clumsy and slow. i hate all the complicated aerobics classes so I attend only simple(but full of energy) ones, such as BodyAttack and BodyPump, I LOOOOOOOOVE fitness where I'm all on my own, with earphones, mp3 to the full volume, pumping, cycling, whatever. I usually go to fitness around noon or very late at the evening when there is no crowd, because I can't stand crowded places.

AND! I am very flexible. yihaaaaa :>

 

[fullerene]

I used to be quite athletic, playing a lot of soccer, little football, and basketball until about 7th grade, and baseball until about 3rd... but far less so in recently years, and I was never really good at any of them. Well... I was a pretty good playing soccer at defense, but as soon as everyone grew up and got some real skills, I fell back quite quickly. I went out to play some baseball two years ago with some friends, though, and it turns out that I've still got some pretty good hand eye coordination.

I did cross country as a freshman in high school, tennis as a sophomore and senior, and frisbee about once a week over the summer after my sophomore and junior years too. I was pretty lousy at tennis and cross country, but I make a pretty good frisbee player. Distance running is probably my favorite... and it only got more fun when I started running barefoot last summer too. I can't do it competitively, but it's a lot of fun to go out at 3 or 4 in the morning and run around on the empty streets of a warm night (as long as you're not in the city). I felt like the night was just my own special time to do what I wanted without anyone else around... and I wanted to run. Some of my best thoughts have come while running... and if I got tired then I could just lay down in someone's yard and look up at the stars; nobody would bother me or look at me weird, because they were all asleep.


so yes... I am pretty active. Getting started after a few months of inactivity is always the hardest thing, but after you get into a habit of exercising all the time you can definitely find some things you enjoy about it.

 

[Chimera]

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I'm good at a lot of sports; just naturally good at maneuvering my body. I guess. I give credit to videogames and playing soccer for 9 years for my coordination. ​

It's nice to be among the first picked for teams in gym class, I must admit. It's an added plus that I'm stronger than most people in my grade too (definitely all of the girls.) ​

When I'm engaged in a game, it's like my mind shuts off anything unrelated to the sport. I go on what feels like a primal instinct and just let my brain run on auto-pilot. In soccer, for example, I played defense. Without conscious thought, I was always positioned right beside the opposing team's striker. Without thinking about it, I moved with them, step for step. People watching noticed that; they said it was almost eerie, watching me move almost perfectly in sync with the other player. ​

I dunno. When I'm playing something, it's a nice break from constantly thinking. I welcome it.​

Weight lifting ("sculpting", Lor? That sounds so lame...) is another thing I enjoy. It's a good way to challenge myself, and it's a mostly harmless way of venting pent-up emotion, relieving stress, getting rid of excess energy, and exercising my stubborn-ness without getting into trouble with adults.
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[sagewolf]

Gah. I'm in terrible shape: I think I got about a four in the most recent fitness test my school did. I'm incredibly physically unfit, which surprises a lot of people sometimes: I don't look unfit. But I am. Extremely. Too much time spent with books, drawings and Mr. Computer.

I don't like team/competitive sports, though, and that's pretty much all there is to do in my area. I'm hoping when I get to college I can take up martial arts (or... IADT? SURFING!) or just cycle to college every day or something to try and not be so pathetically physically weak.

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There you go: go nuts. I like my writing quotes more...

 

[Gorgrim]

I happen to be decent at learning physical things If i try, but it's hard to maintain my skateboarding, and hard to practice enough for new tricks. At the time I started skateboarding, which is about a year ago, I also started playing Warcraft III DotA allstars. If you can be talented at that, I guess i am pretty good. I was getting into soccer too during boarding school 2 years ago... but didn't keep up.

I think I manage well because of my intuition works decently, but the tedious nature of alot of practice on the same act is boring. For some reason, aswell as martial arts, I thought american football would be really interesting as WR, because it is such an art to cordinate how to catch the football.. only, I never did anything about it yet. All the loud types might get to you, I don't know. I think it might be interesting


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[Waterstiller]

I can juggle and I'm good at most sports. The only problem with me and sports was that I never wanted to play them and I never had any desire to win. There really isn't an aggressive or competitive bone in my body. Disc Golf and downhill longboarding were the only things I ever enjoyed.

I abstain from activities that cause injury now.

 

[shaunjvallejo]

I enjoy sports of all kinds.....I'm pretty competitive.

 

[Loraella]

I used to do ballet and gymnastics and be good at it and I loved it, but after many months of not practising any more I lost a lot of my flexibility and now I lack motivation to practise again.
I enjoy swimming but don't have many opportunities to it.
Riding a bike is also not bad.
I should get used to more physical activity again because I don't have almost any now that I spend my whole days at the uni. But I don't really feel motivated and I'm constantly under time stress because of works for uni >_<

 

[shadowmouse]

As normal as it sounds, I find that I most enjoy running or biking because I can just focus on "existing". It's a highly enjoyable experience. Unfortunately I dislike running on treadmills or in the cold. With as far north as I am the cold is a problem about 2/3 of the year. Swimming is nice too, but I can't stand the thought of sharing water with others so the local pool (which rarely is) would need to be empty. Having a full university and work schedule does not help either. I tried and enjoyed Aikido for a while, but as soon as they started telling me that I was doing well enough to start testing into higher ranks and encouraging me to do so I really lost my will to keep going. I know of very few sports/activities that actively downplay competition in favor of personal development for its own sake. Perhaps its time to invent one......

As to addressing the title : I find that I tend to think and learn better when I'm moving since it helps to drown out all the other little stimuli that would otherwise distract from what I am chewing on.

 

[Ogion]

Well in theory Aikido should be that. Without competition and for oneself. That is at least how i experience it and plan on conttinue to do. My trainer did say from time to time that i would be able to get some ranks, but i explained to her that as soon as something starts to 'demand from me' i will loose interest. I don't practise Aikido because i want to wear shiny belts, i do it for me, because it is fun and it teaches a lot...

Ogion

 

[NoID10ts]

Every time I get the urge to do something active, I lie down until it passes.

 

[Fedayeen]

Parkour seems like its at least somewhat fit for an INTP. It's all about efficiency in movement.

 

[EloquentBohemian]

I know of very few sports/activities that actively downplay competition in favor of personal development for its own sake. Perhaps its time to invent one......

Have you investigated Tai Chi?

 

[Linsejko]

I actually am rather athletic. I have thoroughly enjoyed Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Capoeira, Rock Climbing (I still do chin ups off door jams, lor--I didn't know you did rock climbing), high school wrestling, etc. I've also done a little track, 'body building' (basically working out intensely for wrestling), and biking--my $800 Dahon (bike) just broke the other day while I was riding it.

Rock climbing was like a puzzle that made you not only formulate very efficient movements, but execute them--a mind game that went beyond the metaphysical limits of thought. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu even more so, and more dynamic; a different kind of pleasure, one adrenaline filled, as opposed to the quiet, tense, beautiful pleasure of rock climbing. Learning how your opponent moves, how he responds, is such a deep intuitive/thinking interplay as to be delightful. Let it be noted that I am also extremely competitive.

So we're out there, those of us INTPs who enjoy physical activities. I also do a decent amount of hiking/walking here in Israel, but that hardly counts as exercise. I walk over at least a mile almost every day, up and down steep hills, just as part of my daily grind here--that, or run around for 12 hours teaching English.

L.

 

[Anling]

I like to do physical things, but I'm not so good with sports. I get bored and distracted. I love to swim and hike. I took up running a little while ago, but I'm since stopped. I enjoyed it, but I felt like the muscles were ripping off my bones. I seem to have really loose connective tissue. All my joints are way too loose. My dad says just exercise and they'll be fine, but it seems the more I exercise the looser they get. I have even dislocated my shoulder in my sleep, twice. That is definitely a pain I do not want to experience again. At least it wasn't to hard to put back in place.

 

[Calamedes]

I ran track in High School, specifically Hurdles because I found the interruption amusing and I like the soaring feeling

Out of my intellectual family (we're all different, except I think my mom's an INTP as well... not sure. MENSA member at age 12 gave a good hint :P), I have the most grace despite the fact that track was the only sport I played... ever.

I guess I've been dancing for a few years now, so I think that counts for something. Plus, Martial Arts are something that I've always wanted to explore, but rarely had the time/money to do so. I did Tae-kwon-do as a kid, but quit that for monetary reasons.

 

[james]

I was really athletic but not a great athlete. My best sports were 100 and 200 meter dash and weightlifting which basically require no mental effort. Once I go out to play a real sport like Lacrosse or Football I don't do so great. I was a pretty good lacrosse player but I never used my team I couldn't think that fast, all I could worry about was myself. Once I started trying to understand everything I was doing as well as everything everyone else was doing on the field I panicked. Too much going on. I looked like a ball hog.

 

[aahzombies]

I was never particularly good at sports involving me using my own feet (which was strange considering I took Irish Step for 6 or 7 years), but I used to LOVE horseback riding. I was in training to compete in Dressage and Jumper competitions but I had to quit because my family couldn't afford the lessons and equipment necessary anymore. Since then I haven't really been involved with anything sports related. I do enjoy doing some yoga every now and again though.

 

[Luzian]

I played sports as a teen, even if not that good, it was what my friends did.
I also had martial arts training as a teen.
I like to jog and bike, but hate preparing to do it.
I am extremely unclumbsy. I rarely trip nor knock things over. I have a heightened sense of my surroundings, and I tend to be graceful. I also have good reflexes, and can respond well to things that look to be in danger, for example: things that are about to fall, and being able to feel an area of your body exposed to probable attack when in a certain position while fighting.

 

[JayRay]

I scored 90% in Kinesthetic which makes sense for me. I don't love sports but have played baseball and hockey as a kid. Once I was good enough to not be made fun of I quit.

For me the kinesthetic learning manifests in my love of getting my hands dirty taking cars apart, repairing, building, and generally fixing stuff - a true jack of all trades. So it was hard for me to accept myself as an INTP. My first job was as an auto mechanic. But was soon fired because I lacked the speed. I would take too much time trying not to make a mistake and doing the job perfectly.

I think because of these conflicting interests I have a hard time finding a career that interests me, allows me to be hands on and analyse, with a boss that would just leave me alone.

Any ideas for careers of INTP's with Kinesthetic learning would be appreciated.

 

[nanook]

i have pretty high visual spacial intelligence (drawing, imagining 3D stuff, getting proportions right, albeit there is a limit, for instance imagining a human body on a given exotic bycicle/lowrider/cruiser is a difficult trick for me - do his hands reach for the handle bar? is it comfortable? is there room for his legs or is the saddle too low?)

and i have pretty low kinestic intelligence, if i understand the word right:

body coordination:

i was able to learn skateboarding, albeit i never managed to jump and do a trick at the same time (more of a power+speed issue, than a matter of getting the movements right, i think), i can stunt drive a bike downstairs,

but i can't properly catch or kick a ball

and I run into things (stunt drove my bike into street lamp posts and my car into crash barriers because i didn't notice them comming (attention in another dimension))

i can do beginners judo, but i couldn't become good and i don't care for it either.
i couldn't do karate - i would fall over all the time and kick against lamps standing half a meter besides my opponent.

i also don't care about things like yoga, thai chi, reki, which have a strong body component.
i suck badly at feeling into my physical body and i totally hate it.
i mean doing holotropic breathin for just a few moments will freak me out and make me think about death and stuff. i hate and fear this drowning in sensations. it's alien, it's death. that's the point of holotropic breathing, but it seems to take most people longer to freak out.

but i am OK in touch with expressive aspects of movements, like posture and facial expression. or i like to think so. there is always a huge gap between imagination and actual perfromance for me.

i also use my body to show affection (i like to hug or simply touch someone when speaking to them)




i'm at the low end, but there are people who are more sensotarded than me, like my mother, who would never even learn to drive a bike and get extremely scared about walking a thin path in the mountains etc ...


(i'm Ni dom, to the best of my knowledge)


i also suck at music. i like it, but i can't hit a tone or remember stuff. i think that's related. i think composers are often estj. and they are not as visual.

 

[snafupants]

Does masturbation qualify as sport? All joking aside, I found basketball a tad too rough, and baseball far too boring; between pitches I was slightly more interested in the girl in the stands, with the exquisitely petite, tight and right shorts, satiating her appetite with a corn dog than whether I would achieve an out on the next play. I did some pitching, and I could throw about seventy five miles per hour, but the ball was as liable to hit the backstop straightaway as the batter or catcher's mitt; my off speed pitches were sort of farcical too. My ideal sport, I'm using that term loosely, is golf. I was a single handicap player for awhile, which means I was pretty good but a few lessons away from pro caliber. I can drive the ball as far or farther than most pros but my accuracy is suspect; I basically exercise little caution on the course; go for broke baby. You can think of me, perhaps, as Phil Mickelson or John Daly save the talent and experience. I would basically drive the green and then take four putts. Woe is me.

 

[Sigma Octantis]

I would say I am quite athletic, I always go out for a jog, run or a swim. I feel like it helps me calm my mind or at least think. it gives me time for my self.

(yes, its the loner sports I prefer)


I use to play soccer a lot but after a while I kind of got bored with it.

 

[DetachedRetina]

I always go out for a jog, run or a swim. I feel like it helps me calm my mind or at least think. it gives me time for my self.

Yup.