is there a positive correlation between

[Nofriends]

the amount of Muslims in a country and the number of terrorist attacks?

 

[Grayman]

Muslims represent a small portion of what is 'categorized' as a terrorist attack. Environmentalists and such represent the larger portion of attacks but they target structures and facilities. Muslims represent the largest portion of terrorist attacks that result in deaths.

When I voted in the poll I gauged the meaning of terrorist attacks as targeting people.

 

[TBerg]

This is a nice outline of the problem:

http://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/

 

[Ex-User (13503)]

Yes, there appears to be a correlation. The results of a quick and dirty Pearson correlation using Muslim population by country on the x axis and the Global Terrorism Index value on the y axis for every country listed on the GTI (both wikipedia data, because, like I said, quick and dirty). A list of countries not listed and their Muslim populations is in the spoiler below. Where Muslim populations were listed as an estimated range (e.g. 40,000-80,000) the smaller value was used, and if estimated at <1,000, 1,000 was used.

Spoiler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Terrorism_Index

American Samoa < 1,000
Andorra < 1,000
Anguilla < 1,000
Antigua and Barbuda < 1,000
Aruba < 1,000
Bahamas < 1,000
Barbados 2000
Belize < 1,000
Bermuda < 1,000
British Virgin Islands < 1,000
Brunei 295000
Cape Verde 10000
Cayman Islands < 1,000
Comoros 785000
Cook Islands < 1,000
Dominica < 1,000
Faroe Islands < 1,000
Falkland Islands < 1,000
Federated States of Micronesia < 1,000
Fiji 54000
French Guiana 2000
French Polynesia < 1,000
Gibraltar 1000
Greenland < 1,000
Grenada < 1,000
Guadeloupe 2000
Guam < 1,000
Hong Kong 220,000[55]
Isle of Man < 1,000
Kiribati < 1,000
Liechtenstein 2000
Luxembourg 11000
Macau < 1,000
Maldives 309000
Malta 1000
Marshall Island < 1,000
Martinique < 1,000
Mayotte 197000
Monaco < 1,000
Montserrat < 1,000
Nauru < 1,000
Netherlands Antilles < 1,000
New Caledonia 7000
Niue 1000
Northern Mariana Islands < 1,000
Palau < 1,000
Palestine 4298000
Puerto Rico 1000
Reunion 35000
St. Helena < 1,000
St. Kitts and Nevis < 1,000
St. Lucia < 1,000
St. Pierre and Miquelon < 1,000
St. Vincent and the Grenadines 2000
Samoa < 1,000
San Marino < 1,000
São Tomé and Príncipe < 1,000
Seychelles < 1,000
Solomon Islands < 1,000
Suriname 84000
Tokelau < 1,000
Tonga < 1,000
Turks and Caicos Islands < 1,000
Tuvalu < 1,000
U.S. Virgin Islands < 1,000
Vanuatu < 1,000
Vatican City 0
Wallis and Futuna < 1,000
Western Sahara 528000

The results were: r= 0.372, p < 0.00001 for N of 162. R^2= 0.1384

But that doesn't exclude terrorism as a simple function of population size itself. So here's another, using Muslim proportion of the population on x and GTI on y. Proportional data was not available for Guatemala (GTI 2.009), Jamaica (0.229), Laos (0.038), and Lesotho (0), which were excluded. Averages were used where multiple values were given.

The results were: r= 0.4066, p < 0.00001 for N of 158. R^2= 0.1653

Of course in practice this means absolutely nothing because causation isn't addressed, targets of terrorist acts aren't identified (we can't rule out that Muslims are disproportionately targeted by terrorist acts, for example, at least not with this data), it's impossible to accurately assess this and generalize using only a year's worth of data, and of course other potential causative factors are untouched. And the r values could be better, quite honestly. The outliers should be investigated as case studies to turn up more interesting variables.

It does make good idiot bait though.

 

[Nofriends]

Yes, there appears to be a correlation. The results of a quick and dirty Pearson correlation using Muslim population by country on the x axis and the Global Terrorism Index value on the y axis for every country listed on the GTI (both wikipedia data, because, like I said, quick and dirty). A list of countries not listed and their Muslim populations is in the spoiler below. Where Muslim populations were listed as an estimated range (e.g. 40,000-80,000) the smaller value was used, and if estimated at <1,000, 1,000 was used.

Spoiler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Terrorism_Index

American Samoa < 1,000
Andorra < 1,000
Anguilla < 1,000
Antigua and Barbuda < 1,000
Aruba < 1,000
Bahamas < 1,000
Barbados 2000
Belize < 1,000
Bermuda < 1,000
British Virgin Islands < 1,000
Brunei 295000
Cape Verde 10000
Cayman Islands < 1,000
Comoros 785000
Cook Islands < 1,000
Dominica < 1,000
Faroe Islands < 1,000
Falkland Islands < 1,000
Federated States of Micronesia < 1,000
Fiji 54000
French Guiana 2000
French Polynesia < 1,000
Gibraltar 1000
Greenland < 1,000
Grenada < 1,000
Guadeloupe 2000
Guam < 1,000
Hong Kong 220,000[55]
Isle of Man < 1,000
Kiribati < 1,000
Liechtenstein 2000
Luxembourg 11000
Macau < 1,000
Maldives 309000
Malta 1000
Marshall Island < 1,000
Martinique < 1,000
Mayotte 197000
Monaco < 1,000
Montserrat < 1,000
Nauru < 1,000
Netherlands Antilles < 1,000
New Caledonia 7000
Niue 1000
Northern Mariana Islands < 1,000
Palau < 1,000
Palestine 4298000
Puerto Rico 1000
Reunion 35000
St. Helena < 1,000
St. Kitts and Nevis < 1,000
St. Lucia < 1,000
St. Pierre and Miquelon < 1,000
St. Vincent and the Grenadines 2000
Samoa < 1,000
San Marino < 1,000
São Tomé and Príncipe < 1,000
Seychelles < 1,000
Solomon Islands < 1,000
Suriname 84000
Tokelau < 1,000
Tonga < 1,000
Turks and Caicos Islands < 1,000
Tuvalu < 1,000
U.S. Virgin Islands < 1,000
Vanuatu < 1,000
Vatican City 0
Wallis and Futuna < 1,000
Western Sahara 528000

The results were: r= 0.372, p < 0.00001 for N of 162. R^2= 0.1384

But that doesn't exclude terrorism as a simple function of population size itself. So here's another, using Muslim proportion of the population on x and GTI on y. Proportional data was not available for Guatemala (GTI 2.009), Jamaica (0.229), Laos (0.038), and Lesotho (0), which were excluded. Averages were used where multiple values were given.

The results were: r= 0.4066, p < 0.00001 for N of 158. R^2= 0.1653

Of course in practice this means absolutely nothing because causation isn't addressed, targets of terrorist acts aren't identified (we can't rule out that Muslims are disproportionately targeted by terrorist acts, for example, at least not with this data), it's impossible to accurately assess this and generalize using only a year's worth of data, and of course other potential causative factors are untouched. And the r values could be better, quite honestly. The outliers should be investigated as case studies to turn up more interesting variables.

It does make good idiot bait though.

I am confused with all of this math, please do this step by step.
Like what the fuck is this?
0.4066, p < 0.00001 for N of 158.R^2= 0.1653

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

I am confused with all of this math, please do this step by step.
Like what the fuck is this?
0.4066, p < 0.00001 for N of 158.R^2= 0.1653

it means much legit much wow

there is connected between the 2 of dem

4eva nd eva much wow!!!

:O

 

[Happy]

This is a nice outline of the problem:

http://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/

What a crock of shit. Islam doesn't take over countries. It's not like some domino effect.

 

[TBerg]

What a crock of shit. Islam doesn't take over countries. It's not like some domino effect.

The rise of Islam:

https://youtu.be/I_To-cV94Bo

Kaffir treatment at the hands of Muslims today:

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/n7kD16rmMRk

https://youtu.be/VZMilncwWpg

https://youtu.be/mfAmYGoIRPI

https://youtu.be/I2I4KRpBaRM

Bear in mind that this is all occurring within the context of more and more self-segregation and Islamist activism. Muslim No-Go Zones are also a real thing:

https://youtu.be/oHR5GHkd3Es

 

[TBerg]

Also, this:

https://youtu.be/oCsEqKjP9p0

 

[Sinny91]

the amount of Muslims in a country and the number of terrorist attacks?

I'd say yes.

Only because I know there is an orchestrated effort to migrate actual Islamic extremists into the west.

The Clintons know all about it, and their pay for play donors.

 

[Tannhauser]

Not sure what the point of an opinion poll here is. It's pretty obvious that the vast majority of attacks happen in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_terrorist_incidents_by_country

 

[Ex-User (13503)]

I am confused with all of this math, please do this step by step.
Like what the fuck is this?
0.4066, p < 0.00001 for N of 158.R^2= 0.1653

So it looks like you're new to stats. You should learn the T-test and chi square first if you actually plan to do any analyses.

This explains Pearson and r pretty well. It's unlikely Pearson was the best choice, but hey, quick & dirty: https://statistics.laerd.com/statis...correlation-coefficient-statistical-guide.php

Just wikipedia p-value. I mean, I kinda want to explain, but I know I'd just be parroting other sources because I'm not actually a math person. Generally (very generally), the smaller the p-value or r, the stronger the correlation.

But really, the data used is mostly inapplicable to the question this thread poses, because the correlation's going to fall apart with more data given that terrorism has increased fairly recently. Sure, there's a correlation probably over the past 15 years. Keep going back in time and it'll disappear, which demonstrates it's not associated with Muslims unless they're all in a time machine, moving from land to land throughout the ages. Social, economic, and educational variables are the obvious culprits if you're actually looking for them.

But hey, until then, sure, there's a positive correlation. And it's meaningless.

 

[Nofriends]

So it looks like you're new to stats. You should learn the T-test and chi square first if you actually plan to do any analyses.

This explains Pearson and r pretty well. It's unlikely Pearson was the best choice, but hey, quick & dirty: https://statistics.laerd.com/statis...correlation-coefficient-statistical-guide.php

Just wikipedia p-value. I mean, I kinda want to explain, but I know I'd just be parroting other sources because I'm not actually a math person. Generally (very generally), the smaller the p-value or r, the stronger the correlation.

But really, the data used is mostly inapplicable to the question this thread poses, because the correlation's going to fall apart with more data given that terrorism has increased fairly recently. Sure, there's a correlation probably over the past 15 years. Keep going back in time and it'll disappear, which demonstrates it's not associated with Muslims unless they're all in a time machine, moving from land to land throughout the ages. Social, economic, and educational variables are the obvious culprits if you're actually looking for them.

But hey, until then, sure, there's a positive correlation. And it's meaningless.

Does not detract from the fact that the evils they committed are far worse...
Ik it was about terrorism, but fact remains I find their culture and history particularly distasteful.
You had the Armenian genocide in 1944, where men, women and children were tortured to death, etc, and the Islamic slave trade where they cut off the genitalia or ball sack of black men, habitually practiced the molestation of children, stoning of women, and the tossing of homos from buildings, among other things.

 

[Nofriends]

I'd say yes.

Only because I know there is an orchestrated effort to migrate actual Islamic extremists into the west.

The Clintons know all about it, and their pay for play donors.

yeah, I find it fascinating that Hitler did not mind the Muslims, and he gave Israel to the Zionists pre-holocaust, he was either crazy or had ulterior motives, the holocaust was effective in gaining sympathy for the Jews, now calling someone anti-semetic basically makes them faint and/or society completely repudiates them.

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
The idea Jews are superior.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Differences in peak intelligence and ofc the fact that women are more emotional.

"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
You just need to see the blood checks to get accepted into Israel

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

just look at this scene, the Jewish couple do not dare eat with them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPLpiyX6sSY

they find them so endearing because to them it is like two dogs eating together

go to 0:54 and watch him laugh, pure evil

 

[Reluctantly]

I'm always terrified when I venture out into the world and find that people love to drive around everywhere and spend money and shop for things. Their entire lives are engrossed in consumerism and assimilating into the collective. And this doesn't appear to be a Muslim only thing; so no.

 

[Ex-User (13503)]

Does not detract from the fact that the evils they committed are far worse...
Ik it was about terrorism, but fact remains I find their culture and history particularly distasteful.
You had the Armenian genocide in 1944, where men, women and children were tortured to death, etc, and the Islamic slave trade where they cut off the genitalia or ball sack of black men, habitually practiced the molestation of children, stoning of women, and the tossing of homos from buildings, among other things.

You sure are loose with the f-word...

Everything in green is subjective and relative, and nothing you mentioned is specific to Islam.