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Hi,

I am trying to figure out is I am judgmental or perceiver, but I do not find out. I read a lot and happens that I have J or P inclinations depending on the context or simply I do not know to answer the question of the test with 100% decision.

As far as I understand you are one of both and is not possible to be both.

If someone have any good method / test /reading to focus on this issue It will be great.

Thanks in advance.

SCG
 

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No. Stop thinking in terms of P or J, think in terms of cognitive functions. Are you Te or Ti, Ne or Ni?
 

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As far as I understand you are one of both and is not possible to be both.



SCG

Hm.
I always had an impression that, for example, J and P were on opposite sides of a lign.
If you had a 'preference' for J, then your "pointer" would be moved nearer the 'J side', however, that doesn't mean you have no 'P' at all. Just less.

Hrm. Am I misunderstanding you, as I always am with other people?
 

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Hm.
I always had an impression that, for example, J and P were on opposite sides of a lign.
If you had a 'preference' for J, then your "pointer" would be moved nearer the 'J side', however, that doesn't mean you have no 'P' at all. Just less.

Hrm. Am I misunderstanding you, as I always am with other people?

^this. And idk, but that's how I got his question aswell.
 

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Do you prefer your life to be structured? Do you like deadlines, appointments, schedules, do you like things to be decided on, fixed and committed, and do you dislike it when they change?

Or do you need things to be a little more free and open? Do you feel a tremendous sense of relief when appointments are cancelled? Do you think fast on your feet and think that's fun? Do you enjoy making-it-up-as-you-go-along, Indiana Jones style?
 

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As Cogwulf says forget the letters and instead study the functions.

I've known only a few individuals who I'd consider as possibly spanning two types.
 

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Do you prefer your life to be structured? Do you like deadlines, appointments, schedules, do you like things to be decided on, fixed and committed, and do you dislike it when they change?

Or do you need things to be a little more free and open? Do you feel a tremendous sense of relief when appointments are cancelled? Do you think fast on your feet and think that's fun? Do you enjoy making-it-up-as-you-go-along, Indiana Jones style?

Please ignore this BS. I don't know where these myths came from, but there is no truth too them. All that being a P means is your Perceiving function (your intuition or sensing function) is extraverted, and all being a J means is your Judging functions (your thinking or feeling function) is extraverted.

All that the letters in your type really are is an "encoding" of your functions.
 

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Please ignore this BS. I don't know where these myths came from, but there is no truth too them. All that being a P means is your Perceiving function (your intuition or sensing function) is extraverted, and all being a J means is your Judging functions (your thinking or feeling function) is extraverted.

I wouldn't say there is "no" truth, as someone who is aiming a Judging function at external reality will naturally spend more time organizing their external world, and vice versa. P's by nature are more open-ended externally, they generally prefer the flexibility more than the closure.

However, it is certainly not as simple as that; and J/P are not really functions in their own right, they just describe orientation of functions as stated. Function mix (among S/N and T/F) is more important. And then you've got internal or external orientation to describe energy flow.
 

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Do we fit the theory to reality, or the reality to theory?

What we know is that there are most probably 5 independent dimensions to personality. The history behind development of the Big 5 from 16PF shows us that.

The functions remain a theory by Jung. Can we at present point to, say, a particular spot in the frontal lobe, and say "Ne occurs here", or something like that?
 

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Do we fit the theory to reality, or the reality to theory?

What we know is that there are most probably 5 independent dimensions to personality. The history behind development of the Big 5 from 16PF shows us that.

The functions remain a theory by Jung. Can we at present point to, say, a particular spot in the frontal lobe, and say "Ne occurs here", or something like that?

http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=11573

http://intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=266581&postcount=7
Figure5.jpg
It's still in progress.
 

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Do we fit the theory to reality, or the reality to theory?

What we know is that there are most probably 5 independent dimensions to personality. The history behind development of the Big 5 from 16PF shows us that.

The functions remain a theory by Jung. Can we at present point to, say, a particular spot in the frontal lobe, and say "Ne occurs here", or something like that?

Lenore thomson claims we can. Not sure i agree on all her claims.

We definitely can attribute some particular traits (not necessarily mbti functions) to particular regions of the brain, based on what abilities are impacted or how personality changes when parts of the brain are damaged.
 

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Jennywocky said:
Lenore thomson

If nothing else, she has advanced personality type related learning by putting TM behind all the personality category stuff (chart the course, in-charge etc.).
 

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Lenore thomson claims we can. Not sure i agree on all her claims.

We definitely can attribute some particular traits (not necessarily mbti functions) to particular regions of the brain, based on what abilities are impacted or how personality changes when parts of the brain are damaged.

agree
BTW, your profile picture is kinda disturbing, any serious issues?
 
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