Is it INTP or just me?

[SMO]

Just out of curiosity, I personally don't care for/have interest in the following, does anyone else on the board share this or if not I would like to know your thoughts, reasons.

- Sports - I do not care to watch sports, live or on tv, I don't understand the arbitrary connection someone has to "their" team, they don't receive royalties from sales, they don't have an active role in decision making, they may not share any affiliation with "their" team other than they are located in the same state (US), it doesn't make sense to me. Plus, paying person A millions of dollars to slam into person B while carrying a leather egg is just crazy.

- Concerts - Not for me, too loud, and leaving seems to always be a logistical nightmare (I don't like crowds)

- Dancing - I cannot dance, I have tried, I have tried to have people teach me, I have tried to learn on my own, people have told me to just "feel" the music I cannot stop thinking about how I should respond physically to the sound.

- Any of the Jersey Shore or Kardashian type shows movies etc. how do they stay on the air, I only see negative publicity but I guess advertisers continue to pay?

Does anyone have any insight into as why this is or if you have a negative reaction to "popular" activities/entertainment I would be interested to know.

 

[eagor]

other than concerts and hockey yes im uninterested in any of that stuff

as for your question my guess is that since most of the world is made up of e's and f's these activities and others like them gain popularity since they feed off either an e's need to socialize or an f's need to empathize.

 

[kora]

All very INTP (in my humble experience)

Sports, there is no logical reason to feel attached to the players and the team, I bet you don't really understand patriotism either, I suppose generally people feel some kind of group spirit and resulting empathy which INTP's (solitary creatures that we are) are not prone to feeling.

Concerts, hmmm...depends what kind of music you like i suppose, if you see your favorite group/ composr etc... Then I think anyone would enjoy it regardless of type, perhaps the concerts you have been to have been music you don't really like?

Dancing, up until now I would have agreed. But I took MDMA and since then (without having to take it again, I really don't want to be addicted) I understand how to dance and really let go. I really enjoy it now, I still don't really dance well but i don't care about it anymore.

Any of the Jersey Shore or Kardashian type shows movies etc. (i wih there was a puking smiley)
Well, besides from the fact that they're obviously crap, they're not intellectually stimulating which INTP's look for alot in their entertainment.

 

[intpz]

I believe that's more NT, independent of IP.

 

[shrub77]

Basically describes me. I also hate it when people say "Feel the x"

Dancing is more complicated than integral calculus.

 

[TriflinThomas]

Sports bore me to tears (except the olympics). Dancing is one of my worst fears, always gives me major anxiety.

 

[skip]

I was born without the team sports gene.

I'd rather be in the concert than in the audience.

I dislike all reality tv except TAR.

I can dance. I did the white girl trifecta growing up (jazz/tap/ballet) and I enjoy it.

 

[Architect]

Sports

Don't like team sports, playing or watching. Same thing for my INTP kid, we barely got him to finish basketball.

Concerts

I enjoy classical music concerts having been on the stage side enough times. I love Opera, particularly if I spring for the spendy seats. I also love Shakespeare and we visit a festival once a year.

Dancing

Managed to do it by force of will when I was younger and on the make. Hate it now, makes me self conscious, though I do think about taking up some formal/classical dancing with Mr Architect. She'd really appreciate that and I think I'd have fun.

Any of the Jersey Shore or Kardashian type shows movies etc.

What? I've heard the names but don't know what that is, except Kardashian is some sort of reality TV bimbo

Does anyone have any insight into as why this is or if you have a negative reaction to "popular" activities/entertainment I would be interested to know.

Ah, now that is interesting. Why? Certainly we abhor the popular, I think we automatically assume that it must suck if that many people like it. Might have to do with our Ti-Ne axis, which leads us to automatically reject things 'we should do' until our Ti gets a chance to analyze and digest it.

Not sure, but seems to be hooked into that mechanism somehow, need to think on it.

 

[shrub77]

I think we automatically assume that it must suck if that many people like it.

Basically my line of thinking. I avoid "trends"

Dammit Archie. You make it hard for me to doubt my type.

 

[Architect]

Dammit Archie. You make it hard for me to doubt my type.

Sorry, my ultimate goal is collect INTPs together in yearly convention, call it 'PnessCON'. This is my pied piper way of flushing you out.

... Archie, I like that

 

[intpz]

Sorry, my ultimate goal is collect INTPs together in yearly convention, call it 'PnessCON'. This is my pied piper way of flushing you out.

... Archie, I like that

Will we get free tickets to the US and paid hotel/food fees?

 

[PhoenixRising]

- Sports -

I share your sentiment entirely on this one. If I feel like watching a herd of gorillas beat on each other while fighting over a ball, I'll just go to the zoo.

- Concerts -

Yeah, concerts suck. I just can't imagine how people can have fun getting into a big group, becoming emotionally crazed and screaming at the top of their lungs until they can't talk or hear anymore.

- Dancing -

This one I actually enjoy. Dancing is great exercise. I've always been a really good dancer and I love showing off what I can do. I tend to be really competitive and egotistical though, so that probably explains why.

- Any of the Jersey Shore or Kardashian type shows movies etc.

Why don't we exterminate people like the ones on those shows? Seriously, the world would be a better place if people like that just didn't exist.

This one's for you @higs.


As far as insight into why INTPs tend to not like these sorts of things, personally it just makes me sick when people act unintelligent, primitive and overly emotional. I believe that everyone should do their part to help the human race evolve in a positive direction, so when people appear to be devolving it's a bit discouraging.

 

[WhatTheFunction]

- I definitely do not like sports because I'm lazy and could never really get into it.

- Concerts are amazing. The feelings I get from the intensity of the music is overwhelming. Being that close to an artist that I've listened to and admired for years is breath-taking. No sound system can compare to the rawness of a concert. It's beyond words.

- I love to move when I listen to music. Dancing is fun to do when I'm alone or messing around drunk with a couple of friends. I don't do it often but I do always have some sort of movement when listening to songs that encourage me to do so.

- I don't watch TV or even have cable but if I ever get the chance to watch those shows, it's usually me analyzing their behavior and trying to figure out how to solve the conflict among the cast members.

 

[Dapper Dan]

Ah, now that is interesting. Why? Certainly we abhor the popular, I think we automatically assume that it must suck if that many people like it. Might have to do with our Ti-Ne axis, which leads us to automatically reject things 'we should do' until our Ti gets a chance to analyze and digest it.

I think this plays a bigger role than we realize. I used to think I was above such an illogical behavior, until I heard a song I previously liked on a top 40 radio station and immediately realized I didn't like it anymore. It pisses me off that other people's evaluation of something directly affects my own enjoyment, so I try to identify and eliminate this behavior whenever I see myself doing it. I'm not sure it's working.

As for the original question:
Sports- I enjoy both watching and playing quite a bit. They're just a subset of games. I like games.

Concerts- Only been to a few, but those few have been pretty sweet. I do agree that a large crowd of people behaving irrationally can be overwhelming. I guess your enjoyment/immersion just has to outweigh the crowd.

Dancing- Never tried, and don't particularly care to. Just too Se for my tastes.

Jersey shore, etc.- No idea. I don't own a TV right now, and even when I did I never watched any of that stuff.

 

[pjoa09]

I liked playing a bit too excessively Basketball. Watching is incredibly difficult. I'd rather watch pollination. TV is an incredible waste of time. Web surfing has replaced it.

Concerts, got to go to the ones by your favorite artists or bands. Otherwise, you will be staring at everyone wondering if someone slipped something in to their beer.

 

[Vidi]

If concerts, then only in the classical vein.
Dancing. Bearable, but not particularly interesting.
Sports. No. Not even Olympics. I would watch them for instructive purpose if I were in that sports branch myself

 

[Architect]

I've been stuck in Japan with nothing to do a few times; I did find watching Sumo compelling. Seemed like it was always in season.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

- Sports

I don't agree with their level of pay, but many sports (e.g. American football) involve a strategic component that I enjoy.

- Concerts -

I hate the crowds, but I can do a good concert if I position myself on the side as opposed to the middle. Leave all the important/valuable stuff at home and practice throwing elbows. It's worth it to let Fe loose and act like an idiot sometimes.

- Dancing -

I can't dance, but I'm convinced I can do it very well if I learn it and bond with that "special person" willing to put up with me as I trip over myself in the initial stages.

- Any of the Jersey Shore or Kardashian type shows movies etc.

Agreed.

Does anyone have any insight into as why this is or if you have a negative reaction to "popular" activities/entertainment I would be interested to know.

I think it really just depends on your comfort level and willingness/ability to adapt to different things (and willingness/ability to develop the necessary perspective to develop that willingness/ability to adapt). Using dancing as an example, once you get used to dancing badly in your office behind closed doors, it's slightly less awkward to do the same in public.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Sorry, my ultimate goal is collect INTPs together in yearly convention, call it 'PnessCON'.

To inject some seriousness into this, do it. We can start our own professional society equipped with publications et al.

 

[SMO]

I don't know if my curiosity for the collective thoughts are a way for me to find a "group" that I have never been a part of and I seek that subconsciously or if I am trying to find a pattern of behavior/habit that can benefit me somehow. It just seems like my way of thinking is so contrarian and I know there is a benefit to that outside of the esoteric, I just cannot put my finger on it.

 

[SMO]

To inject some seriousness into this, do it. We can start our own professional society equipped with publications et al.

Or a think tank, companies, individuals submit complex problems and a loosely connected network of individuals come up with solutions.

 

[Architect]

Or a think tank, companies, individuals submit complex problems and a loosely connected network of individuals come up with solutions.

Yeah I have a hard time imagining individuals who aren't joiners, joining to form a group of people who aren't joiners. What seems to happen is that we frequent groups like this, I'd opine that INTPs are more prone to congregate together in internet groups than any other type.

Perhaps thats your 'loosely connected network of individuals who come up with solutions.

 

[SMO]

Yeah I have a hard time imagining individuals who aren't joiners, joining to form a group of people who aren't joiners. What seems to happen is that we frequent groups like this, I'd opine that INTPs are more prone to congregate together in internet groups than any other type.

Perhaps thats your 'loosely connected network of individuals who come up with solutions.

Yes, I chuckled when I read about the convention, the problem is who would organize it, run it, and show up.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Or a think tank, companies, individuals submit complex problems and a loosely connected network of individuals come up with solutions.

I'm actually working on that... sort of (it's on the list).

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Yes, I chuckled when I read about the convention, the problem is who would organize it, run it, and show up.

We'd need to build it online first, then develop a monthly publication, and then go for physical conventions. I don't think organizing or fundraising would be much of an issue IF there is something to be gained through membership.

 

[PhoenixRising]

We'd need to build it online first, then develop a monthly publication, and then go for physical conventions. I don't think organizing or fundraising would be much of an issue IF there is something to be gained through membership.

I would attend a convention like that in a heartbeat. That would be incredibly awesome, think about the intellectual collaboration that would happen. I have been the editor in chief of two school newspapers and am good with journalism as well as other types of writing, I'll write articles for the publication if people will send me ideas for what they'd like to see in it. I can also do graphics, I'm a digital artist.

 

[Mantush]

Sports

I don't care much for the playing of any sport, but the work that goes into assembling a major league baseball team does interest me. You would never catch me watching or playing baseball, but you will find me frequenting websites like fangraphs and reading books by Bill James and other sabermetricians.

Concerts

I've never been to one and I say that without any regrets. I'd rather enjoy the company of my thoughts when I listen to music than three thousand plus screaming people.

Dancing

I've tried it once. I made an ass out of myself. I'm not interested in doing that again. Maybe if I were more extroverted, maybe.

Reality TV

I can proudly say I've never watched a TV Show like this. I'm hoping that once my generation grows up and experiences life a little bit more, we'll be able to experience a new golden age in television programming and bring back shows that compare well with their classic equivalents.

Does anyone have any insight into as why this is or if you have a negative reaction to "popular" activities/entertainment I would be interested to know.

I have a negative reaction to these "popular" activities because they don't interest me. I'd rather waste my time by having my head high up in the clouds than waste it by firmly planting my feet on the ground.

 

[Proletar]

- Sports -
Drugs*

- Concerts -
Alcohol /+ drugs*

- Dancing -
Alcohol and drugs*

- Any of the Jersey Shore stuff -
Never


It's a shame I can't enjoy concerts without getting drunk, because I LOVE music. Therefore, the only way for me to enjoy it is if I get the chance to watch some of my favourite musicians in a smaller place, like a jazz-club or something. But that is a WAY to rare an occurance.

(*= ... I imagine...)

 

[xbox]

I LIKE ALL OF THAT

 

[addictedartist]

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/index.php?date=102611

I dont watch tv, anymore*

I slamdance, raindance, mosh, and I can dance 'the jerk' when a situation calls for it

I enjoy a good metal/funk/indie concert when I can afford it, not just financially but physically and emotionally, going out can be exhuasting. I take solace in losing my voice, and love the feeling of flopping on my bed with the frequencies I am about to lose ringing through my ears; serenading me to sleep

I like to play sports recreationally with friends, football or ball hockey but I cant watch sports without wanting to be a part of the action or at least invest time into formulating a winning strategy; the only game I enjoyed watching was holdem poker which was in solitude, because watching person A take person B's money was remarkably entertaining to me.**

*I used to watch comedy, history and discovery religiously
**My family used to have a poker channel

 

[BridgeOfSighs]

- Sports -
Drugs*

- Concerts -
Alcohol /+ drugs*

- Dancing -
Alcohol and drugs*

- Any of the Jersey Shore stuff -
Never


It's a shame I can't enjoy concerts without getting drunk, because I LOVE music. Therefore, the only way for me to enjoy it is if I get the chance to watch some of my favourite musicians in a smaller place, like a jazz-club or something. But that is a WAY to rare an occurance.

(*= ... I imagine...)

Yep, right there.

Except, I get addicted to Storage Wars every time I visit my parents house. Mostly for the cool stuff and Barry.

The only reason I go to sporting events is to see people and the -usually free- booze.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I would attend a convention like that in a heartbeat. That would be incredibly awesome, think about the intellectual collaboration that would happen. I have been the editor in chief of two school newspapers and am good with journalism as well as other types of writing, I'll write articles for the publication if people will send me ideas for what they'd like to see in it. I can also do graphics, I'm a digital artist.

I'm thinking it's probably best to just maintain out current online convention of sorts here, based on the fact that I have the urge to do it yet automatically place it ~4 years down the road on my to do list.

 

[SMO]

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/index.php?date=102611

the only game I enjoyed watching was holdem poker which was in solitude, because watching person A take person B's money was remarkably entertaining to me.**

**My family used to have a poker channel

I do enjoy Texas Hold Em, both playing and watching. I think it is due to the amount of odds involved as well as the players looking to outwit each other. While I cannot "read" tells very well, I can detect patterns in how someone bets based on what cards they have. If I were a little crazier I would try to make a living playing poker.

 

[Vladimir]

Sports: I love sports, but never watch anything, with the exception of FIFA world cup and EURO cup. I'm not inclined to watching sports, but I understand why some people are. (I like soccer, ping pong, parkour, chess, tennis, volleyball, and sometimes basketball.)

Concerts: I think concerts suck.

Dancing: I don't like dancing either. I do, however, have a lot of respect for those who can break-dance, because I think it's awesome and I know that it is difficult to achieve the strength required for those "dance" moves. In other words, I like the strength/skill aspect.

Stupid shows: I'm with you 99% man. I see the benefit of making money off mindless idiots throughout the country, but the shows are repulsive and completely superficial and stupid dumb fake poorly made.

 

[Atheist]

Just out of curiosity, I personally don't care for/have interest in the following, does anyone else on the board share this or if not I would like to know your thoughts, reasons.

- Sports - I do not care to watch sports, live or on tv, I don't understand the arbitrary connection someone has to "their" team, they don't receive royalties from sales, they don't have an active role in decision making, they may not share any affiliation with "their" team other than they are located in the same state (US), it doesn't make sense to me. Plus, paying person A millions of dollars to slam into person B while carrying a leather egg is just crazy.

- Concerts - Not for me, too loud, and leaving seems to always be a logistical nightmare (I don't like crowds)

- Dancing - I cannot dance, I have tried, I have tried to have people teach me, I have tried to learn on my own, people have told me to just "feel" the music I cannot stop thinking about how I should respond physically to the sound.

- Any of the Jersey Shore or Kardashian type shows movies etc. how do they stay on the air, I only see negative publicity but I guess advertisers continue to pay?

Does anyone have any insight into as why this is or if you have a negative reaction to "popular" activities/entertainment I would be interested to know.

Sports- What's the point of watching sports? Go and play them.

Concerts- Hurts my ears. Too expensive. No motivation to fork over my cash.

Dancing- Two left feet.

My favorite past time is reading and typing on the internet. It's an INTP thing.

 

[Duxwing]

Sports? Certainly, they're very fun if the competition is level. Like another poster said, they're just another kind of game that I can have fun playing. It's just FUN!

Concerts? Anything that loud is simply painful. I'm not a masochist, so I'm not seeing the point of going.

Dancing? Certainly, it's very fun to let off all my repressed sexual tension off in one wild night. Granted, I treat everyone there with respect and politeness, but the very fact that I only get this one dance per year means that just letting loose during one is rounding error compared my vast oceans of sleep-deprivation-induced honeybadger-esque illogic. Afterwards it's right back to Ti/Ne and all the wonders of science, humor, and philosophy. In essence, Fe and Se say "Come on, pretty please with sugar on top? Please-please-please-please-please-please--

Ti: "FINE! HAVE YOUR ONE STUPID NIGHT! Just be quiet already, I mean seriously, what is it with you two and rubbing against girls' butts in time to music? You people are sick."

-Duxwing