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INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC

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8 puzzles

I will score up the cumulative points of the first 10 or 15 posters who PM me their answers. No explanation required, all I need are ABCDE answers. Well you can provide your rationale if you really want. Whichever forum gets the most answers correct, wins the battle.

There is a single logical, definite, and deductive answer to all 8 questions. None are up to subjective interpretation. You will know if your answer is right.

Do not discuss answers or reasonings in this thread.

INTPx thread
 

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Hahaha nice test(es)
 

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Who am I kidding, with all this P-ness, I'll be lucky to receive one PM.
 

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The logical move is to not play. I mean maybe we could send Blararan or Rook at it. They seem like the kind of people.... Hold up is using IXTJ's Cheating? Can we disqualify your entire forum?

Haha sick burn calling people INTJ's how will they ever recover. *Glares at RB*
 

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look at this fucking intj lmao

HAHAHA gopher beat me to it shucks
 

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All 8 of them are based on inductive thinking, not deductive logic.

It's a cool idea though
 

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Oh so we're going to argue about the test now are we? Yes lets, why are you hosting it anyway for all we know you're PM'ing the answers to INTPCompost! CONSPIRACY I SAY WHERE'S SINNY WHEN WE NEED HER?
 

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All 8 of them are based on inductive thinking, not deductive logic.

It's a cool idea though

Nope, all deductive. There is only one right answer for each one.
 

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Nope, all deductive. There is only one right answer for each one.
No, there isn't. As with any inductive problem, there are multiple solutions that fit the pattern.

All of them are aimed at generalizing patterns; inductive by definition.
 

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No, there isn't. As with any inductive problem, there are multiple solutions that fit the pattern.

All of them are aimed at generalizing patterns; inductive by definition.

Honestly, none of them are aimed at generalising patterns. There is 100% no multiple solutions. PM me some of your answers, I want to know why you think it's inductive. If enough people do send answers or this dies out, I can send you the answers and why it is absolute and logical.

Take this random spatial puzzle I found off google:

22ilN3y.png


The only logical deductive answer is c if you follow the progressions and conditions that dictate the positions of the line + red and blue squares. My puzzles are the same. Sure you can answer inductively and give more tenuous reasonings, but I am only looking for the logical answer in my puzzles.
 

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We clealry disagree on what "deductive" means. What is the next number in this sequence:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

That has nothing to do with deduction. As with IQ tests, the problem is not to deduce the answer but guess what the creator of the test had in mind.

If your answer was 7, you are wrong. The sequence is not (k) but (k modulo 7) so the next number is 0. Your "deductive" skills suck
 

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Oooh those look like some goodies :)

@Serac
I agree that it's inductive rather than deductive, though it's probably a bit nitpicky to ignore the teasers and instead split hairs.
 

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I'll add it to my to-do list, I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually.

"eventually"
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I've got four solved thus far. Some of the ones I haven't got to yet look tricky af. Not sure, but they look like they may require some prior knowledge (especially 6). Is that the case?
 

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We clealry disagree on what "deductive" means. What is the next number in this sequence:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

That has nothing to do with deduction. As with IQ tests, the problem is not to deduce the answer but guess what the creator of the test had in mind.

If your answer was 7, you are wrong. The sequence is not (k) but (k modulo 7) so the next number is 0. Your "deductive" skills suck


After thinking about it, I think you're right, actually. They are inductive puzzles. Thanks for correcting me, I learnt something new. :^^:

Edit: Utisz from the superior forum says it's abductive reasoning?
 

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I've got four solved thus far. Some of the ones I haven't got to yet look tricky af. Not sure, but they look like they may require some prior knowledge (especially 6). Is that the case?


5 & 6 both require prior knowledge, but the rest don't! The clue for 6 is: music!
 

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God, now I have to either go outside and paint my shed that I'm four weeks behind on finishing before winter buries me in snow, or I can sit here online and do brain teasers to fight a virtual war that will leave only mental anguish and pervasive self-doubt to cripple the losers.

Life is full of tough choices.


.... actually, I could just eat another chocolate chip cookie.
 

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Dude TM delete your answers, just PM me the answers instead of sharing it...... Do it in the spirit of the game...
 

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For 1-8 the answer is fuck off.
I will find my own problems that have an actual relationship to practical life(or just fun)
 

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Dude TM delete your answers, just PM me the answers instead of sharing it...... Do it in the spirit of the game...

But if I do, it'll drive nuts some poor thinker several years from now who stumbles upon this thread in the Wayback Machine and wants to know the answer! Haven't you ever felt this way??
https://xkcd.com/979/
 

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But if I do, it'll drive nuts some poor thinker several years from now who stumbles upon this thread in the Wayback Machine and wants to know the answer! Haven't you ever felt this way??
https://xkcd.com/979/

Boy have I, but c'mon. I'll post the answers and reasoning in due time, for all strangers to see.
 

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By the way, you got 3/8.

That was just mean. :D


.... I have four of them done, I'll send them to you once I finish the other four I skipped.
 

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Edited TM's post. Please respect the wishes of the OP. If you have doubts, ask, or reread the OP where it clearly states:

Do not discuss answers or reasonings in this thread.
 

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Cool. By the way, good to see you again.

good to see you too, even garbed up in that stupid rabbit suit. ;)

.... sigh. I just have #2 left, but I have no freaking idea. What's the deadline?
 

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I've down to #6 and #7.

I don't think I'll get #6 since I know nothing about music and nothing looks familiar (I knew nothing about #5 either, but managed to glean enough out of the numbers to google the info I needed).

#7 seems tricky. Not sure whether I'm taking the right approach, but have only glanced at it. There's some ambiguity to the lay-out that has me feeling too demotivated to commit.
 

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I've down to #6 and #7.

I don't think I'll get #6 since I know nothing about music and nothing looks familiar (I knew nothing about #5 either, but managed to glean enough out of the numbers to google the info I needed).

#7 seems tricky. Not sure whether I'm taking the right approach, but have only glanced at it. There's some ambiguity to the lay-out that has me feeling too demotivated to commit.

Heh. I would like badly to comment on both of these but we're not supposed to cheat at WAR.
 

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Logic is for losers. I demand trial by wombat.
 

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Did Gopher kill all the contestants yet?
 

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Not counting TM's, I just got some submissions in my inbox. Fuck me you guys are good.

Submissions received so far:
INTPf: 3
INTPx: 2
 

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Kalika wrong answer, only the best of the forum sent you answers, any decent person would have seen it.
 

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I hope you have an algorithm to check if it's the same person who sent in the answers.
 

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Man the definition of 'deductive reasoning' has been on a truly wild ride from start to finish.
 

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Take this random spatial puzzle I found off google:

22ilN3y.png


The only logical deductive answer is c if you follow the progressions and conditions that dictate the positions of the line + red and blue squares. My puzzles are the same. Sure you can answer inductively and give more tenuous reasonings, but I am only looking for the logical answer in my puzzles.

This problem is easy af.

As much as I would like to give a shot at the problems, I can't justify it because I would be repping both sites.
 

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These kinds of tests should be called: "how good are you at making assumptions and jumping the hoops based on previous brainwash?" We’ll reward you with a score, dawg.

It just makes me question what ‘logic’ really means to most people.

Woof woof.
 

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Not enough submissions to score up. Congrats to Charde for the top score. Here are answers for the future lurkers.

https://i.imgur.com/85mM8LL.jpg


(last answer is supposed to say "left ball" instead of "right ball" - can't be arsed re-photoshopping it)
 

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Not enough submissions to score up. Congrats to Charde for the top score.

Yay me

(she used my other forum name)




damn. Now that I see the answer to #2, I should have gotten that one.
 

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Yeah I feel silly not having got #7 now. No way I would ever get #6 though.
 

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Yeah I feel silly not having got #7 now. No way I would ever get #6 though.

Don't feel bad -- I got hung up Googling the Beatles and The Rolling Stones for the longest time.
 

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Just did the test.
Hope I get some right.
 

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Just did the test.
Hope I get some right.

The contest is over, that's why the answers were posted earlier in the thread.

So you can just check your answers.
 

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I got 4 right.

1. A. no
2. E no
3. A no
4. E yes
5. A yes
6. B yes
7. A no
8. C yes
 

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I got 4 right.

1. A. no
2. E no
3. A no
4. E yes
5. A yes
6. B yes
7. A no
8. C yes

You got #6, hahaha! That rocks.

Most people had trouble with 2, 6, and 7, I think....
 
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