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Just had a random thought while taking a walk earlier, so here goes.. i shall not apologise if some of my thoughts are naive/ unsubstantiated/ fickle/ changing-over-time(cause sometimes the 'me' typing isnt the 'me' who types later, not pointing specifically a change in thoughts due to time but im not gona dwell into this here), or whatsoever you may find annoying. Its more like a space for me to rant my random crap from a walk!

Can you build and sustain a nation with INTPs only? Well i never bothered much about where to place them, but lets just say some magical good piece of land popped up in the middle of the atlantic ocean and somehow a group of say, 5million INTPs migrated onto it.

Im gona list some magical rules here
1) All inhabitants to be INTPs, INTPs are allowed to migrate in, but no other types are allowed in under any circumstances, except as tourists)
2) The Almighty INTP Divine One has blessed the nation such that all offsprings will be INTPs
3) The nation building will be funded by the members of UN, with sufficient money to construct the basic infrastructures of a modern nation(rather vague here)
4) The 5million INTP migrants dont give a shit about whatever life they had before and are very excited to start their new life!
5) Foreign companies will not be allowed to enter the nation, except in the initial buildup phase, after which they have to leave.

So now we have, a 'fresh' nation of somewhat like-minded people to build a new society. Of course, i was wondering if some of the 'radical' ideas in my head would work in an actual society of 'like-minded' people. Seeing that i cannot understand some of the other types function, it would be tougher to implement ideas from me upon them.

Here, i am identifying myself as an INTP and hence believe that my way of thinking will be much easier accepted by the INTP society. However i do feel that even though it may be pure INTPs, there are bound to be issues that we would be disagreeing with. The general idea is that regarding certain issues, we take sides not based on analysis, or any concept of right/wrong etc, but based simply on perhaps a probabilistic automaton. Hence, how would a pure INTP society come to resolve such conflicts? Is it possible to design a new form of government that would be significantly better than the current ones available, based on a pure INTP population?

The whole topic looks abit fuzzy and quite vague to me here, but i guess its actually just, how would a group of INTPs come together to build and sustain a nation of INTPs only? Its probably related to my dream of utopian societies..:phear:

See, sometimes i can barely tolerate myself, much less the idea of living in a whole nation of 'me'. Reflecting on the nation i built in my inner world of fantasies, attempting to bridge it into physical reality.. maybe i can get some interesting ideas here :D

Some of the 'qualities' of my 'inner world nation'
Eugenics(practised in a rather extreme manner), which will eventually lead to an intelligent healthy population with low crime propensity
Extreme judicial system(capital punishment for perhaps, even theft, part of the eugenics system)
Rather extreme responses(e.g some country's civilian vessel infringes your territory and ignores warning = immediate death to them)
Maintainence of a massive military force(because humans are... dangerous animals)

Shall stop here for now.. surprised i could last so long O.o

Shall try to summarize it again..

Do you think it is possible to build and live in a nation of INTPs? or.. a nation of YOUs?
What common frameworks would you deem necessary?
 

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The main problem with something like this is INTP's won't want to do anything practical. We're all content to sit back and theorize, but when it comes to actually implementing those ideas we fall quite short.
 

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The main problem with something like this is INTP's won't want to do anything practical. We're all content to sit back and theorize, but when it comes to actually implementing those ideas we fall quite short.

This may not be case for all INTP but I think it would be a major issue in time because most INTPs would rather think that do.
 

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The main problem with something like this is INTP's won't want to do anything practical. We're all content to sit back and theorize, but when it comes to actually implementing those ideas we fall quite short.

Definitely not for all, atleast not for me! But collectively as a nation, definitely the people would recognize the need to actually implement things, i mean, if we were intelligent we could recognize the need and actually address it
 

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So if we applied this to all MBTI types and created 16 seperate nations, who would be the most successful? Economically politically etc...Maybe every nation would be perfect for the people living in it. Or maybe they would all just fail miserably.

INTP's would obviously do well with idea generating, and I think they would get their act together and execute their ideas if it was necessary, we do work well under pressure. I've got a feeling we would take a while to come to any decisions though, plus none of us would want to be the leader. Some kind of communist-like regime where everybody votes on every decision through computers would probably ensue. Religion would probably not be very present. The education system would be AWESOME, and there would be libraries everywhere and nation-wide free internet access. We probably wouldn't be terribly rich, INTP's don't make good buisness partners, primarily because we don't give a shit about money in general. I would live there though, it sounds cool.

EDIT: Not sure about the nightlife though :D
 

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kora

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Starswirl's post = thread concluded.
 

Starswirl

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Starswirl's post = thread concluded.

But we can still discuss the merits of virtuously starving to death in Anatartica as well as its costs.
 

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I more like the idea of a NT nation. This way we have a balance of idea people, doers, leaders, etc.

I feel like it would be unstoppable... We would have no one willing to build our roads though. Might have to have foreign workers.
 

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What will you do when INTPs start accusing other INTPs of not being INTP? How will you prove someone is INTP? Do they have to pass a test or something? Does someone get to judge who is INTP and who isn't? I think it would be great if you did that just so I could see the answers to these questions. Witch-hunts are fun. :D
 

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What will you do when INTPs start accusing other INTPs of not being INTP? How will you prove someone is INTP? Do they have to pass a test or something? Does someone get to judge who is INTP and who isn't? I think it would be great if you did that just so I could see the answers to these questions. Witch-hunts are fun. :D

The thing with INTPs is that no one would bother to show up for the argument, not unless it was online and they happened to be logged in.

We're such an unmotivated crew. Is there an ESFJ living on your block? Just go home the back way and don't engage, it's easier. And don't answer where she rings your doorbell to raise funds for the Human Society, just pretend you're not home.

Witch hunts and lynch mobs? That would take motivation and investment.
 

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Witch hunts and lynch mobs? That would take motivation and investment.

I want to fight this stereotype. INTP's aren't unmotivated, we're just motivated differently. Unfortunately in a way that is often unappreciated.
 

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I want to fight this stereotype. INTP's aren't unmotivated, we're just motivated differently. Unfortunately in a way that is often unappreciated.

I wish I had the energy to respon.... oh snap!

Yes, we're motivated for some things. But witch hunts? No, not usually.
 

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I wish I had the energy to respon.... oh snap!

Yes, we're motivated for some things. But witch hunts? No, not usually.

Agreed, we're definitely not motivated by the Rule of Mobs.
 

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Agreed, we're definitely not motivated by the Rule of Mobs.

Unless we are trying to insight mobs to see what there reactions will be. Of course you could assume that most of the member of said mob would most likely not be INTP therefore making the Which hunt quite easy and after the mob killed each other we would just go on our own way.

Maybe this is just me. I don't think I would join a mob but starting one to see what would happen sounds fun. This is of course until I got bored by the mob not doing what I expected it to do in the first place. Mobs can be very unpredictable like that.

I don't think INTP are against a little social experimentation as long as they are not the ones being experimented on.
 

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I want to fight this stereotype. INTP's aren't unmotivated, we're just motivated differently. Unfortunately in a way that is often unappreciated.


Dabbling in my own mind, the only things that would make me want to do something right now are sex or a tropical vacation with sex, or a chance to fly with a wingsuit, with some sex and beer afterward. Other than that there's not much more my 18 year old mind could care for at the moment. (INTP being honest)

An INTP nation would thrive... after we established a logical way to motivate ourselves to work and implement. It would be truly awesome. I'm only good at certain video games though so I don't know what I would do... xD
 

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can't stop myself from doing this

use restraint

nope can't

INCITE!




whew


I would totally join a witch hunt.
 

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Unless we are trying to insight mobs to see what there reactions will be. Of course you could assume that most of the member of said mob would most likely not be INTP therefore making the Which hunt quite easy and after the mob killed each other we would just go on our own way.

I like to do that with financial markets. I'm not good with momentum investing which is investing with the crowd (usually bubbles). Instead I analyze for their eventual demise and bet on that.
 

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There would still be relative SJs, SPs and NFs in a nation of INTPs. Society will order itself as it always has.
 

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Agreed, we're definitely not motivated by the Rule of Mobs.

I've always wanted to make an angry mob of experts on crowd psychology. They'd all try to manipulate each other while knowing exactly how others are trying to manipulate them.


That would be what an NT nation would look like; everyone trying to outplay each other only to find that everyone knew how to not be outplay-ed. If the ENTJs didn't start competing with each other, sparking a civil war, things might be ok...if we had someone to do manual labor.
 
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