INTP´s view on masturbation?

[own8ge]

Hello there! I thought this was an interesting topic, and I hope you think that too!

-Are you an INTP?
-What is your view on masturbation and porn?

optional(?)
-How often do you masturbate?
-To what do you masturbate, porn?

 

[Etheri]

I have needs. If I don't have a partner to help me with them, i'll help myself. Porn is not required, but I won't deny having looked at porn. How often really, really varies. Minimum of twice a month when i'm not in a sexual relationship?

Yes, I think I am an INTP.

 

[Duxwing]

Each and every chance I get, no porn needed.

-Duxwing

 

[H1N1]

Scientifically I believe porn in excessive amounts can be detrimental to interpersonal arousal. It creates unrealistic expectations and ideologies in pertinence to coitus. That being said, as long as porn is used as a minimal stimulus I do not see a problem with it. Occasionally I will watch porn, maybe three times a year but not to masturbate. I, at times, have a problem becoming aroused so I will use it as a pre-arousal technique before I have sex with my partner. When I am in a relationship I masturbate significantly less than I do when I am not in a relationship regardless of how frequently we have sex.

My main thought on this matter is the concept of porn itself. Porn started out as women taking pictures of themselves unclothed. Women portraying a male fantasy. Over time it has morphed into videos, etc... but it is still the embodiment of fantasy. What's the difference between fantasying mentally in your head and porn? More creativity and options? Things you wouldn't have thought of yourself? I don't know.

 

[Solitaire U.]

-or so I've been told.
-masturbation is necessary as a stress-reliever, especially for caffeine addicts like myself. Pornography is like riding the crack-coaster. It's only truly satisfying the first time. Everything after that is just a fruitless pursuit of faster, harder, more extreme.

-none of your fucking business.
-my own dirty, filthy thoughts.

 

[Duxwing]

Indeed, too much porn is bad for your arousal. What I did instead was read nearly every article on Wikipedia about sex, from anorgasmia to zygotes, and understand it as best as I could. Then, all in my own head, I used my visual memory to construct three-dimensional models of the most attractive girls I knew, added lighting, AI, and physics via my imagination, and used my creativity (Ne, I assume, considering that I don't crush on the one's I whack off to) to concoct vivid fantasies for my entertainment.

It's actually quite fun and makes for good training if I go all the way down my mental "checklist" of things to do. Unfortunately, the full 40 minute exercise can be exhausting, so I usually just skip to the good part. If, however, I were to believe that sex were on the horizon, I would do it nightly to ensure that everything went smoothly, safely, and comfortably (e.g., remembering to take the condom out of my pocket before dropping my pants).

-Duxwing

 

[Bhagavat]

I'd say I average about 1.5 times a day. As for porn, while imagination is usually sufficient, porn serves as an excellent supplement from time to time.

Edit: Yes, I'm an INTP

 

[GREYGREY]

Lol... Truly a random topic, definately interesting though.
I read an articel once (Thought it be interesting to note in this thread)
That stated that married men masturbate more than single men.

Weather or not that's true I don't know... Never been married.
Weather or not that's down to the (apparent) drop in sexual activity in a marriage.
I don't know... To be honest I only read the headline lol.

So who can explain the difference between erotic art and pornography?
Take art from Lui Royo for instance.
It doesn't arouse me personally...

Yet watching live coitus does... More so due to the accompanying audio?
Yea.. Agree masturbation eases stress. But there is a limit, try meditation instead.
Porn though... It becomes more educational than arousing
If not educational than atleast damn funny, seeing all the crap out there.

Truly an interesting topic

 

[Meer]

These days, slightly less than once a day.

Yes porn, but it's good porn, so it's okay.

 

[Irishpenguin]

Yes it is stress relieving, I believe it relieves just the right amount of stress for me, but then again, hell, I've done it before just as a sleep-aid...or even to get awake and moving in the day sometimes. And oh, these days I probably average to about once a day, pretty much a daily ritual, with exceptions here and there.

And I will agree with what H1N1 said about how porn creates unrealistic expectations. I noticed that awhile back that things were way blown up in my head. Although it wasn't necessarily the porn in of itself, I usually use porn just as a start point, and then stop it and then continue the rest with my imagination, adding on to the scenery and scenario. Because honestly, porn just get's downright hilarious to me if you watch a whole video, I mean, it's just so fucking ridiculous 90% of the time xD


and back to what I was saying. Yes, these imagination escapades I've gone on have been...well I won't lie they were pretty fucking awesome. And that made me get to the point where it's hard for me to get aroused by normal things that would like, well you know.....ACTUALLY HAPPEN to me! It just seems so bland now, however I believe it has gotten better lately, since I don't put much effort in the imagination anymore, it's just like a chore that I have to do in order to function properly in the day, yup. blaaaahhhhssss, bluh bluh....so there it is. hope you're happy now!

Spoiler

Oh i guess I should add that most people around here don't consider me an "INTP"....at least I don't think most of them do, but whatevs, I'm still awesomez so I hang around

 

[Proletar]

Indeed, too much porn is bad for your arousal. What I did instead was read nearly every article on Wikipedia about sex, from anorgasmia to zygotes, and understand it as best as I could. Then, all in my own head, I used my visual memory to construct three-dimensional models of the most attractive girls I knew, added lighting, AI, and physics via my imagination, and used my creativity (Ne, I assume, considering that I don't crush on the one's I whack off to) to concoct vivid fantasies for my entertainment.

It's actually quite fun and makes for good training if I go all the way down my mental "checklist" of things to do. Unfortunately, the full 40 minute exercise can be exhausting, so I usually just skip to the good part. If, however, I were to believe that sex were on the horizon, I would do it nightly to ensure that everything went smoothly, safely, and comfortably (e.g., remembering to take the condom out of my pocket before dropping my pants).

-Duxwing

Are you joking?

 

[Intellect]

Scientifically I believe porn in excessive amounts can be detrimental to interpersonal arousal ...

Yeah, the key is moderation. Porn by itself isn't bad for you. The problem comes from an addiction to it. This is an interesting video on the topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

Anyway, as far as masturbation goes: probably a few times / week. But, I'll go through periods of several weeks (even months in some cases) without it.

My personal preference on porn is kind of interesting... I like watching it sometimes, but I don't really like to get off to it. I'd rather just watch it and enjoy it because it's interesting. There's also something kind of off-putting about masturbating to porn.

 

[Duxwing]

Are you joking?

Not in the least. In sex, like everything else, practice and preparation are essential.

-Duxwing

 

[pjoa09]

Really exhausting. At times I don't feel like doing anything after.

 

[m3110]

I am an INTP. This will sound a bit strange, but I use it as a sleep aid and temporary pain reliever for migraines that aren't severe. Other than that, I'm in a relationship, and my needs pretty well stay met. When I'm not, I have my days like most others.

 

[Ink]

This topic is so weird to me.

 

[Crocket]

About two weeks ago, I tried to make it a point to only do it once a week. I lasted exactly 4 days. Urges get too strong not to if I don't get enough distraction. I'm either gonna have to become a workaholic or gonna have to put together a harem. Also way too visual to do it without porn.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

It's dangerous.

Spoiler

 

[7even]

How in the world is porn 'interesting', I'd like to know?
So, some of you, would actually watch porn, without beating it? With popcorn or something?

 

[snafupants]

How in the world is porn 'interesting', I'd like to know?
So, some of you, would actually watch porn, without beating it? With popcorn or something?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=popcorn trick

 

[Crocket]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=popcorn trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcBAmfRnqCk

 

[snafupants]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcBAmfRnqCk

She went for gold near the end - god bless her.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcBAmfRnqCk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it0SSL1cU3c&t=58s

 

[addictedartist]

http://www.holytaco.com/flowchart-determine-if-you-should-fap-it/:smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[MsAnthropy_Indefatigably]

I hate porn. To the point where I would call it a fear. I tell people I'm pornophobic. I don't like the idea of watching other people doing it. It freaks me out and forcing me to watch it is probably a good way to get me to divulge secret information.

I sometimes get fleeting inclinations to tape myself getting some with a sigO and then I realize I would never watch it and I would suffer a sense of moral degradation from having allowed myself to make that decision, even if I erased it right after.

The other thing. I don't do too often. I agree with m3110 that it is helpful as a sleep aid, but now that I live with my sigO, I just let him handle that. But in the even that we finish doing whatever we're doing and I didn't "finish" (i.e. when he gets a start to finish BJ), I will do it myself and I'm cool with that.

 

[Ganpot]

I once did a fascinating experiment to see how many times I could masturbate in one day. I believe the outcome was 22 times (I'm male, btw). I felt like shit for the next two days due to dehydration, but I was satisfied that I had tested my limits.

I masturbate seemingly randomly. Some times its a couple times a day, other times its a week or so without it. I try to switch up aids between movies, images, my imagination, and written stories so that it's more entertaining.

 

[7even]

I once did a fascinating experiment to see how many times I could masturbate in one day. I believe the outcome was 22 times (I'm male, btw). I felt like shit for the next two days due to dehydration, but I was satisfied that I had tested my limits.

What did you aim to achieve from this experiment other than testicular pain exactly?

 

[Duxwing]

What did you aim to achieve from this experiment other than testicular pain exactly?

Some bear a motto, a burning code before which all is judged:

"Come blood and bone, steel and stone, or tortures of the mind alone; I won't give up!
Come lances and probes, neurons and lobes, or times when I must burn my robes; I won't give up!
And when the call goes out, to try again, for Knowledge, for Truth, for SCIENCE; I WON'T GIVE UP!"

For them, their pain is no object in seeing a discovery through.

-Duxwing

 

[Ganpot]

What did you aim to achieve from this experiment other than testicular pain exactly?

Quite simply: knowledge. I had a question and wanted an answer. That tends to drive most of my actions, to be honest.

 

[Sorlaize]

-What is your view on masturbation and porn?

There's not really an opinion to be had here, I don't think..? :/ It's a natural process, and it's perfectly healthy to masturbate when in a relationship too.

-How often do you masturbate?
-To what do you masturbate, porn?

As often as I feel like it
(there may be problems with being addicted to certain behaviours, but that's fine if I enjoy it and I manage it, right?)


I have tons of porn, I love porn. At the moment I leave more gaps inbetween sessions, and doing that allows me to spend time really getting worked up rather than making it quick and .."insincere". Yeah, I really did just compare it like "prostitution vs. normal sex" in my head. Spending more time on myself in between being 100% busy with other stuff, rather than short breaks while procrastinating, is better..

Recently I've really got into a certain imaginary/roleplaying/delusional "space" or "groove" or "pattern" that I can go back to.. I was worried I wouldn't be able to go back to this.. recently using hentai doushinjis & real-life porn, rather than just real porn, along with this other major change has made my "sex life" amazing again. I am really.. just, satisfied.


There's an emotional component to it too. A feeling of loneliness, because masturbating when you have a severe lack of social contact also brings about huge issues (like I said, "certain types of behaviour", namely, reliance on porn & self-esteem issues arising from this addiction b/c of how society views it) .. masturbating as a shut-in can still make me feel like I am empty and lonely. But, I can manage that, by participating in online discussions like this, by writing, or simply by "sleeping it off".. this loneliness. Or there are other ways to deal with it, like actually finding friends or love interests, but that's too much work realistically.


As for sex toys, they can really make things better, too. The fleshlight is all most guys will want, because of the sucking action you get. Other products like flesh-material vaginas don't have this.

How in the world is porn 'interesting', I'd like to know?

(I read that as something else.. anyway, whatever: )

The psychological component of climaxing and what that can do for your thinking

The climaxing and what kinds of things it means for partners when they do things like enact fantasies and role swaps, etc. (imagination!)

The variety of plots and themes some porn can take (hentai/doushinji)




--

It's dangerous.

Pretty much anything can be dangerous

 

[Sorlaize]

porn creates unrealistic expectations.

ah yeah there is that

 

[SpaceYeti]

I like to do the touch.

 

[pjoa09]

Masturbation increases self-control and reduces rape cases.

No need for a research there it seems to fit.

 

[Minuend]

No need for a research there it seems to fit.

Science is ashamed of you, pjoa )=

 

[Cognisant]

If I could take pills as an alternative to masturbation I'd pay any price for them, it's not that I have a guilt/shame complex or anything, I just find it degrading that I'm forced to like something that if I wasn't being forced to like I obviously wouldn't like, porn I mean.

I find if I don't relieve myself at least once a week I'm liable to say/do stupid things, like propositioning someone I'd rather not have any association with or being irritable at someone I really can't afford to be irritable with.

 

[Duxwing]

If I could take pills as an alternative to masturbation I'd pay any price for them, it's not that I have a guilt/shame complex or anything, I just find it degrading that I'm forced to like something that if I wasn't being forced to like I obviously wouldn't like, porn I mean.

I find if I don't relieve myself at least once a week I'm liable to say/do stupid things, like propositioning someone I'd rather not have any association with or being irritable at someone I really can't afford to be irritable with.

While I find being driven by ye olde id to acts of pornography consumption degrading, too, it's what's I'm doing with my hands and penis that really get my goat. I mean, it's like a slug... eugh...

-Duxwing

 

[Psychic Child]

I am a Psychic. I can remote view.
I can see the real thing live from anyhwere.

 

[INeedToPee]

 

[Twn]

I love masturbation, and Ive been using porn to masturbate since I was about 12. Ive been looking at porn w/o masturbation since I was 8 or 9.

Ive never viewed porn as obscene or thought it degrades women. As a kid I was very much into film-making, so often I would love watching porn that was, surprisingly, well produced.

I still look at [some] porn as an art form, and a way for everyone to express themselves.

If you want to know a persons deepest desires, look at the porn they watch.

I masturbate when Im stressed out, or irritable. Im rarely edgy, buy occasionally I get all twisted up in the head and I need relief.

And if porn and masturbation cant fix the issue, I need sex immediately.

 

[Spock]

Porn is the greatest art,masturbation is a genocide.....

 

[EyeSeeCold]

porn vs reality

Spoiler

 

[pjoa09]

lady parts II wtf what kinda poster is that. Nurse drawing is sexy.

 

[crippli]

Masturbation is to me just a body workout. It's as meaningless, or meaningful as most anything else. I have more issues with workout centers then I have with masturbation. I think it should be done behind closed doors, as masturbation's is, Or both public, each is fine. I take an issue with the differentiation.

 

[kora]

I have nothing against porn itself, but it can make some people rubbish at the actual act if they were raised on it.

Masturbation brings the devil into your body and makes you go blind. Don't do it.

 

[snafupants]

porn vs reality

Spoiler

Extra sausage indeed.

At any rate, I wouldn't be entirely put off by the promise of that burly massage.

I need a good message.

 

[nexion]

Sometimes I don't feel like it. I really don't.

 

[Absurdity]

Masturbation brings the devil into your body and makes you go blind. Don't do it.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed monster is king.

 

[Duxwing]

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed monster is king.

Perfect. Just... perfect.

-Duxwing

 

[crippli]

Masturbation is the closest we have for a youth elixir. Because even if you put on a chastity belt the genitalia will still very much be active. And the question is then, do you want that stuff to wreck havoc on your body, or do you want to get rid of it?

 

[doncarlzone]

As an experiment I just went 100 days without masturbating or watching porn.

As mentioned in this thread, I consider porn is a pleasure-triggering drug that should be "consumed" in moderation. I think most people are able to do that, however, as with alcohol and other drugs some addictive personalities will always abuse them.

I am currently so desensitized to any erotic images, that when I clicked on an article today with a video (the one from that "dance show" in Argentina), my body was almost shaking and I could feel the dopamine shoot through my brain.

My idea is of course not to restrain myself to the point where I salivate like a dog when a pretty girl walks by, however, I think if you are single, then masturbating bi-weekly or weekly at most, should be sufficient to desensitize yourself and have some "mojo" as they call it on psychologytoday.com.. I am still not 100% sure though about the pattern.


I still haven't masturbated yet. Imagine what a compliment it will be for that girl who is going to be a part of my "comeback"? Ok now I am getting uncomfortable...