INTJ's Entertaining?

[Zionoxis]

I am not entirely sure about the rest of you, but due to my recent discovery that my own father is most likely an INTJ, I decided to join an INTJ forum to talk with and get to know them. After doing so, I cannot help but notice that they are extremely fun to interact and talk with. No offense guys, but judging types seem to be void of the cynics in that forum.

What do you guys think about the type as a whole? I have seen them speak of their type themselves (with the INTJ bias), so I may as well see it form an INTP perspective as well.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

You got to be kidding, right?

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

INTJs suck. . . Or at least the one I know. But the type in general seems douchey.

 

[GYX_Kid]

I know funny INFJs, maybe sharing Ti has something to do with that...pfft

It did take me a while to appreciate "J" humor, I guess. Takes a realization of existing generalities, and of general presentations of those generalities.

Perceivers have their way of judging things too, it's just a different and possibly more abstract type of compartmentalizing associations

I can usually tell if I'm having a half-conclusion about me drawn by a judging type, and can draw my own half-conclusion about how and why they thought that....the option then is what to do, if anything, about it.
Usually I won't care, and they might get themself into trouble if they go too far

 

[Zionoxis]

Well, my dad is one so I guess I can somewhat relate to them in some form or fashion. But so far, no INTJ I know is douchy. Their humor is much like INTP humor with just a slight twist.

I know many INTJ's on the forum I am playing on seem to appreciate the company of INTP's. I know where their shortcomings may be, but so far, I have yet to face the wrath of one. My father is pretty passive aggressive so he tends to keep opinions to himself.

 

[Words]

Innately speaking, INTJ humor is theoretically distant from INTP humor. (Actually, I think something like "developmental level of humor" could also a big factor.) INTP's either focus on (seemingly)random-humor via Ne or some sarcastic Ti. INTJ's humor deals heavily with double entendres or something interpretative but technical because of Ni -Te. The Pi thing requires a focus that I pretty much don't have, so often I don't really get their jokes. In general, J's(particularly INFJ's) tend to look forceful and unnatural so it ruins the appeal for me. I don't know if you can change your humor. Going back to developmental humor, an Ne-child's humor could look "stale" for an adult Ne-type.

 

[GYX_Kid]

INTP's either focus on (seemingly)random-humor via Ne or some sarcastic Ti. INTJ's humor deals heavily with double entendres or something interpretative but technical because of Ni -Te.

That's an interesting angle, I guess by that I've been using more INTJ humor recently (seems more 'mainstream', at least the Te is more concrete and accessible). I still really like INTP "random" association-salad, especially when it's just clear enough to "get".

I wonder how Te/Ti and Ne/Ni humor would play out. Maybe extremely technical or extremely abstract.

 

[Trebuchet]

I wonder how Te/Ti and Ne/Ni humor would play out. Maybe extremely technical or extremely abstract.

Joking around with INTJs is fun, but you have to pay attention to know when they are joking. With my friends, it ends up being a lot of word play, historical references, Monty Python, and references to the evil overlord list.

Even if INTP and INTJ have different approaches to humor, at least we each think the other is funny, which is more than I can say for most people.

Any type can be douchey.

 

[blarg]

Both INTPs and INTJs from my personal experience enjoy mocking other people's stupidity.

 

[Reluctantly]

I know INTJ's are supposed to have a Pi function and INTPs a Ji function. But INTJs seem like they enjoy constantly judging other people and things with stricter criteria, whereas INTPs are more live and let live and fun.

That said...

After doing so, I cannot help but notice that they are extremely fun to interact and talk with.

Really? That's how you felt? ...really? Ohhh...well...hmmm...really?

Look what google suggests for me if I type in "why is INTJ".

 

[Zionoxis]

Well, there is always going and having a look around. The entire forum could have mistyped themselves. As for the strong persona...my dad is super laid back under most circumstances. He has that sarcastic humor so I figure I have just learned to appreciate it over time.

 

[Bird]

I either like INTJs or I absolutely cannot stand them.
There is no in between. Entertaining? Depends
entirely on the setting.

 

[Bird]

INTPs are entertaining.
Such circular conversation.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

The INTJforum is full of the old and unintelligent. They think that they are special just for being an INTJ. Far too special to ever use processes of ratiocination. Far too special to understanding the difference between correlation and causation. Far too special to ever notice that there is a stick shoved up the ass of every one of them.

The above opinion was developed from half a day reading posts in that forum.

 

[Words]

Joking around with INTJs is fun, but you have to pay attention to know when they are joking. With my friends, it ends up being a lot of word play, historical references, Monty Python, and references to the evil overlord list.

This is basically what i meant by interpretative. They'll hint contexts and references that's counterintuitive to the meanings of "objects"(words, symbols etc), requiring you to change your perspective of the word or work with two alternating meanings for you to comprehend. and for some reason, sometimes it's funny.

Even if INTP and INTJ have different approaches to humor, at least we each think the other is funny, which is more than I can say for most people.

Our different approaches stresses the type of approach that's required to understand the type of humor. An INTP who doesn't excel much on Pi will have difficulty, likewise an INTJ who doesnt see the connections will likely be irritated by interpreting the Ne-information as Se-information. Static and no arching meaning. Level(excellence) of cognitive ability explains understanding. A wide developmental gap between two people regardless of similarity in type will bore one or the other or both.

 

[Thales]

The INTJforum is full of the old and unintelligent. They think that they are special just for being an INTJ. Far too special to ever use processes of ratiocination. Far too special to understanding the difference between correlation and causation. Far too special to ever notice that there is a stick shoved up the ass of every one of them.

The above opinion was developed from half a day reading posts in that forum.

I know what you mean, but there are a select few that are quite intelligent, of course some of them aren't even INTJ.

 

[Zionoxis]

Proxy...that sounds a little judging of you.

 

[Roran]

I used to be a regular poster on intjf. But then I discovered intpf. IMHO, intpf is much more interesting and and entertaining.

 

[Zionoxis]

I am not entirely sure why, but in INTJf, for a bunch of close-minded assholes, they are still pretty transparent. I feel as if I am talking with a bunch of actors here to some extent. That could be a subconscious projection due to the fact that I do the same thing both online and in real life.

 

[Words]

I am not entirely sure why, but in INTJf, for a bunch of close-minded assholes, they are still pretty transparent.

I feel as if I am talking with a bunch of actors here to some extent. That could be a subconscious projection due to the fact that I do the same thing both online and in real life.

That's interesting. I'll go ahead and attribute that to the fundamental difference between Fi and Fe. And yes, I am one of those who sometimes maintain a facade. It's oppositional to the value of consistency but it happens subconsciously.

 

[ZombieAtomico]

I'm a long time member of INTJf. I agree with much of the comments here, but it's important to stress that a great deal of the posters on there don't actually adhere to the beliefs they often close-mindedly argue. Many just enjoy argument for it's own sake. They care more about the process than the content.

Amusing and entertaining? Yes, but it takes time to really "get it". Lots of dry humor and subtle jokes. That said, there seems to be a great deal of rod-up-the-assness there, too. INTJs tend to become less douchey with age.

 

[blarg]

I guess the thing about INTJs is that being one is awesome, while interacting with one can be living hell. They probably don't have the same view about us, though. We seem more...Kirby-ish.

 

[Zionoxis]

I guess the thing about INTJs is that being one is awesome, while interacting with one can be living hell. They probably don't have the same view about us, though. We seem more...Kirby-ish.

The monkey or the pink ball?

 

[Bird]

I know funny INFJs, maybe sharing Ti has something to do with that...pfft

It did take me a while to appreciate "J" humor, I guess. Takes a realization of existing generalities, and of general presentations of those generalities.

Perceivers have their way of judging things too, it's just a different and possibly more abstract type of compartmentalizing associations

I can usually tell if I'm having a half-conclusion about me drawn by a judging type, and can draw my own half-conclusion about how and why they thought that....the option then is what to do, if anything, about it.
Usually I won't care, and they might get themself into trouble if they go too far

I am way funny.

 

[blarg]

The monkey or the pink ball?

The pink ball, in the sense that, as someone else said, we're "live-and-let-live" and not as dead serious.

 

[Logic]

Well developed INTJ's can be one of the most entertaining people you can ever meet. The same can also be said for the INFJ's. The reason is due to the fact that Ni has a presence of wanting to achieve greatness more so than any other function in the psyche. Ni doms are the world record holders for holding the most amount of world records so naturally when they flex their inferior Se, they make sure they do it as perfectly as possible. Bruce Lee is an example that comes to mind. Some say he's the greatest martial artist to have ever lived, and he's also an INFJ. Michael Jordan is another INFJ and he's known to be one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Steve Jobs is an INTJ and he's quite an exceptional speaker and entertainer. George Carlin is also an INTJ and he's quite the comedian. I can go on and on here, the point is that Ni hates the world for what it is because it sees just how great everything could be if it were to change and it seeks to achieve the highest reaches of what's possible, it aims for the stars.

 

[Anthrocide]

INTJs suck. . . Or at least the one I know. But the type in general seems douchey.

I have been accused of being a douche. You may be right. I could not care less honestly.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

I have been accused of being a douche. You may be right. I could not care less honestly.

...... I don't think you took it this way but it occurs to me now that I should let people know that I wasn't making a personal attack against anyone (well, maybe the one I know).

And that sounds kind of like what the INTJ I know would say

 

[Anthrocide]

And that sounds kind of like what the INTJ I know would say

We are clansman by default, though we actually do not collaborate often. Though, fellow INTJ's have attempted to recruit me. Also, what sort of atmosphere, specifically, do INTJ's tend to bring about?

 

[alrai]

My boyfreind is an INTJ, more time, he loves to write and is actually quite moving when his been authentic and not exaggerating everything. He loves entertaining himself by writing about sci-fiction stories his dreamed about and never misses an opportunity to use his forceful style to describe in great details things that seem so boring to me. I love him though.

 

[Holmes]

...... I don't think you took it this way but it occurs to me now that I should let people know that I wasn't making a personal attack against anyone (well, maybe the one I know).

And that sounds kind of like what the INTJ I know would say

Yeah, we are more than a little "douchey", in general. We just don't understand the need to tiptoe around feelings or make sure people stay happy. That's not our job. We make things that don't work, work, and things that don't work well, work better. Our goals in life are to improve anything and everything, and that is what we do- whether it pleases you or not.

I have been called aloof, detached, cold, heartless... on a regular basis. It's just how we are. The I makes us independent and uncaring, and the NT makes us rationalize and think ahead. The J is just for organizational purposes.

People say we don't exist, but I myself know of about nine, haha.

Alternatively, I frequently donate things anonymously to people, or do nice things for people, without them knowing. Just because I think they'd like it, and nobody ever finds out it was me. So I guess we aren't all total jerks.

 

[crippli]

I have to agree, Judging types have proven themselves to be a lot of fun. Sometimes to much!!!!!! But on a distance, the humour has been excellent.

 

[blarg]

It's a lot easier to annoy Js than Ps. It's ruining someone's big plans versus trying to anger someone who doesn't give a shit from the beginning.

 

[kibou]

@Logic let's stick with the PL terms if we're talking about PL statistics, MBTI does not comment about comedians and stuff, but in PL we have seen that the Nai'zyy are very well represented in comedy.

MBTI and Pod'Lair see very different things, of course the MBTI stereotypical archetype of an INTJ (and its other types) may not be funny, but in PL can physiologically observe that there are quite a lot of famous Nai'zyy configuration comedians that are doing very specific things with their pod powers to achieve a highly charismatic, unified, humorously bashing stupid way of orating. We use PL terms to note the difference between PL and MBTI, using the terms synonymously only leads to more confusion and also to inconsistencies, as one of the logic-based members (I think, I can't remember XD) aptly noted, and I agree. INTJs may or may not be funny, but well-developed Nai'zyys sure know how to knock out an audience.