I Was Going to Make an Account on infjs.com But I Ran Into This...

[TriflinThomas]

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Which is complete and utter bullshit. I used to jokingly refer to Fe as" The dictator function," I guess I was more correct than I thought...

 

[Architect]

Yeah it's funny, INFJ's like to tell the rest of us how to live. I know, I live with one. For sure.

 

[TriflinThomas]

I just went through and made my favorite rules bold, and my absolute favorite in red I was probably going to be placed in the "mod bin" right away because my first post was going to be about how anal the TOS were

 

[Dr. Freeman]

I just went through and made my favorite rules bold, and my absolute favorite in red I was probably going to be placed in the "mod bin" right away because my first post was going to be about how anal the TOS were

I feel like you should have done that. Since you have no intention of staying there, what harm can it do? It would also be a great opportunity to study their responses.

 

[Etheri]

Ask them why 42, and do your very best to reach the 42 mark asap without spamming. Then as 43th post you make a new thread called 'FREEDOMMMMMM' with some braveheart pictures, then you never ever post again. Make sure you spell freedom with an excess of M's, because you're not sure whether it's goes as a word or an onomatopoeia in the sense of freedom, and spelling errors are not allowed.

 

[Hawkeye]

Sounds like a boring place. Surrounded by E-police

 

[intpz]

I don't have any problem with the first 3 highlighted rules. They are great.

Yeah it's funny, INFJ's like to tell the rest of us how to live. I know, I live with one. For sure.

And yet you live with one, what's up with that? I wouldn't like to live with anybody who tells me how to live.

 

[Jennywocky]

Which is complete and utter bullshit. I used to jokingly refer to Fe as" The dictator function," I guess I was more correct than I thought...

Don't stop there, Te's a pain in the butt too. Extroverted Judgments will set rules to control external reality; that's kind of expected.

You've been to INTJforum, right? They're just as anal, and not as nice.

 

[TriflinThomas]

I don't have any problem with the first 3 highlighted rules. They are great.



And yet you live with one, what's up with that? I wouldn't like to live with anybody who tells me how to live.

I think it's stifling for people who don't speak english. I mean, they're online so google translate is mouse clicks away

 

[Fukyo]

The rules are mostly fine. It's standard stuff for most forums. There's a rule thread on INTPf too, it's just kinda in the background.

Using english is just common courtesy when you're among the majority of native english speakers. Should I just jibber jabber in my native language and confuse everyone but two people who can understand me?

INFJforum isn't so bad once you get used to it. I've almost 2k posts and haven't once gotten in trouble with the moderation even though I've pissed off regular members. You just gotta know how to play in different environments. Each social setting has its own implicit or explicit rules. The people over at INFJf are different than the people from here and it's expected their social setting is different to accommodate that.

 

[Architect]

I don't have any problem with the first 3 highlighted rules. They are great.

And yet you live with one, what's up with that? I wouldn't like to live with anybody who tells me how to live.

Don't make things black and white. There's a lot more to a person that some specific characteristic. Considering it all I suspect INTPs are a lot harder to live with than an INFJ on balance.

 

[Jennywocky]

INFJforum isn't so bad once you get used to it. I've almost 2k posts and haven't once gotten in trouble with the moderation even though I've pissed off regular members. You just gotta know how to play in different environments. Each social setting has its own implicit or explicit rules. The people over at INFJf are different than the people from here and it's expected their social setting is different to accommodate that.

Haven't posted there much, but I've never really had trouble jumping around from forum to forum either. I don't think I've ever gotten an infraction, or even a warning.

(Aside from the one I'm now expecting to get from you as a joke, to ruin my record. )

Anyway, you just figure out the tone and mood of the forum and tailor your text to fit the locale.

 

[intpz]

I think it's stifling for people who don't speak english. I mean, they're online so google translate is mouse clicks away

And yet you've highlighted it, one of them is even in red.

Don't make things black and white. There's a lot more to a person that some specific characteristic. Considering it all I suspect INTPs are a lot harder to live with than an INFJ on balance.

Indeed. What I was saying is that I wouldn't let someone make the decisions for me or control any aspect of my life. I want to be in control, I like being in control and I believe that I make good decisions, as I base them on logic, which I consider the best basis for decisions.

In fact, I hate when someone is attempting to control me or make the decisions for me. In most cases those are SJs, mostly because they assume that they are smarter than me, and in fact than most people they come across with. It's just annoying; no real judgement, just preconceptions...

 

[Etheri]

In fact, I hate when someone is attempting to control me or make the decisions for me. In most cases those are SJs, mostly because they assume that they are smarter than me, and in fact than most people they come across with. It's just annoying; no real judgement, just preconceptions...

Just because people assume they're smarter than you, doesn't mean they'll try to control you. I think i'm smarter than most people (yes yes, arrogant, I'm sorry, can't help it. It just grew.) , but I don't care about controlling your life.

My point being that the reason you're giving is flawed. It may very well be a factor, but it is not the reason.

I do agree, I experience the same thing with the same kinds of people and find it very annoying. I do however realise i'm sometimes somewhat hypocrite in thinking other people are too judgemental and base their opinion on me mainly on preconceptions, as I often do exactly the same.

 

[intpz]

Just because people assume they're smarter than you, doesn't mean they'll try to control you. I think i'm smarter than most people (yes yes, arrogant, I'm sorry, can't help it. It just grew.) , but I don't care about controlling your life.

Did you just read my post backwards?

My point being that the reason you're giving is flawed. It may very well be a factor, but it is not the reason.

That's closer to how you should've read it.

I do agree, I experience the same thing with the same kinds of people and find it very annoying. I do however realise i'm sometimes somewhat hypocrite in thinking other people are too judgemental and base their opinion on me mainly on preconceptions, as I often do exactly the same.

That IS hypocritical.

 

[Etheri]

Did you just read my post backwards?

That's closer to how you should've read it.

Does it change or invalidate my point? I read either full or crosslines. In this case (and almost always regarding the posts I quote and reply to, I read it fully and pretty much word for word, left to right, starting on top.)

However, I do typically read posts, form thoughts, and as I decide to post them, go through the post again while writing down these thoughts.

That IS hypocritical.

Yes it is. Can you deny you do not do the same thing? Can you deny being a hypocrite? The only way I can be less of a hypocrite, is by realising it and then effectively trying to change it, which I am doing.

 

[intpz]

Yes it is. Can you deny you do not do the same thing? Can you deny being a hypocrite? The only way I can be less of a hypocrite, is by realising it and then effectively trying to change it, which I am doing.

Yes. Yes. I act upon logic, not preconceptions.

 

[Etheri]

Yes. Yes. I act upon logic, not preconceptions.

I beg to differ.
"INTPs are different. They can be mistaken for mentals by a strong S/F who lives in his own ignorant world." - your 'title'.
Are these not preconceptions? I'm willing to look for more clear examples among your own posts if you want me to. I don't think anyone is free of preconceptions or hypocracy, not rationals, nor anyone else.

 

[intpz]

How does the phrase below my name reflects my actions?

And once again, I hate statements "Everybody is...", they are implicitly dumb.

 

[Etheri]

How does the phrase below my name reflects my actions?

And once again, I hate statements "Everybody is...", they are implicitly dumb.

I love how you deny that the phrase below your name is not representative to how or who you are, but I cannot deny that it is possible, thus will give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll consider you the exception to confirm my rule.


Why do you hate the 'everybody is' statements so badly... Why are they implicitly dumb? Are they false? (Or perhaps because they imply things about you? Because they put you in the same group as everyone else? )

>Humans are hypocritical and full of preconceptions. I avoided the 'everybody is' structure. Are you happy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_quantification Why don't you like them?

 

[intpz]

Why do you hate the 'everybody is' statements so badly... Why are they implicitly dumb? Are they false?

You can apply those statements to nearly everything, therefore it is pointless to say it. They are merely a dumb attempt to look philosophical and perhaps even intelligent. It's not even an opinion, it can't be - it's implicit! I don't see any other reason on why someone may want to say it. This reminds me, there was a guy that I used to sit with during the economics class, as it was packed, over 30 people in a class made for 20. He always used to use those statements to avoid any discussion that may not be pleasant in some way to him: make him say his radical opinion, oppose to mine, say something bad about somebody when being serious, etc.. By the way, he's tested ENFP, or perhaps ENFJ, I can't remember... I think it was an ENFJ though.

 

[Etheri]

You can apply those statements to nearly everything, therefore it is pointless to say it. They are merely a dumb attempt to look philosophical and perhaps even intelligent. It's not even an opinion, it can't be - it's implicit! I don't see any other reason on why someone may want to say it. This reminds me, there was a guy that I used to sit with during the economics class, as it was packed, over 30 people in a class made for 20. He always used to use those statements to avoid any discussion that may not be pleasant in some way to him: make him say his radical opinion, oppose to mine, say something bad about somebody when being serious, etc.. By the way, he's tested ENFP, or perhaps ENFJ, I can't remember... I think it was an ENFJ though.

It's implicit, it applies to everyone... Oh really? You deny both, I say your denial is pointless (and in itself hypocritical, ... oh boy), not only in your case, but in everyones.

So you say <universal quantifiers are pointless as they apply to everyone and thus it is implicit> yet in this very same thread you denied that <what is implicit applies to you>

This leads me to conclude that either you disagree with my opinion concerning hypocracy being universal to mankind, which implies the statement is not implicit (since you disagree, after all), or it is infact implicit (and in your opinion a stupid statement), in which case you along with everyone else on this planet are a hypocrite.

Either way, universal quantifiers might be implicit, but remain useful tools in deduction and logic. What is and what is not implicit is a personal matter more than anything else. You deny something applies to you - I claim it applies to everyone, and thus also to you. I don't see why this is bad, faulty or stupid, given that I can argue my initial claim that it applies to everyone.

PS. What does the classroom size, this guy or his typology have to do with anything? Leading to more preconceptions towards types and their tendencies?

 

[intpz]

Often the people who use implicit statements for whatever idiotic reason there is, take everything as either strictly black or strictly white, thus missing the meaning of their comment subject. On the other hand, you may've simply tried to find something to cling on by pretending to misread/misinterpret it. Whichever is the case, screw you guys, I'm hitting the bed.

 

[Etheri]

Often the people who use implicit statements for whatever idiotic reason there is, take everything as either strictly black or strictly white, thus missing the meaning of their comment subject. On the other hand, you may've simply tried to find something to cling on by pretending to misread/misinterpret it. Whichever is the case, screw you guys, I'm hitting the bed.

Then I'll leave this argument at this for now, goodnight

/sorry for going offtopic (So glad we're not on infjs.com, they might've just banned both of us )

 

[Hawkeye]

On the other hand, you may've simply tried to find something to cling on by pretending to misread/misinterpret it.

Just like you did with me in your "The most trustable type" thread - twice, or practically anything you quote me on (always out of context)

In fact, you yourself applied the "everyone is..." mask within that thread and then flamed me for doing the same. This also makes you a hypocrite. ^^

 

[pjoa09]

I beg to differ.
"INTPs are different. They can be mistaken for mentals by a strong S/F who lives in his own ignorant world." - your 'title'.
Are these not preconceptions? I'm willing to look for more clear examples among your own posts if you want me to. I don't think anyone is free of preconceptions or hypocracy, not rationals, nor anyone else.

OH BURN!!!

 

[Meer]

Well, this thread sucks.

 

[Anarkandi]

What? Is there a problem?
Sincerely
The Fe-dom.

 

[Fukyo]

@intpz how do you do it? Derail every thread with unrelated squabbles, I mean? Yet you try to police your own threads against derailment so stringently.

 

[Architect]

@intpz how do you do it? Derail every thread with unrelated squabbles, I mean? Yet you try to police your own threads against derailment so stringently.

intpz is one I can't figure out. Equal parts permatroll-dedication.

 

[intpz]

@intpz how do you do it? Derail every thread with unrelated squabbles, I mean? Yet you try to police your own threads against derailment so stringently.

I'm special.

intpz is one I can't figure out. Equal parts permatroll-dedication.

I don't know if I should feel flattered or... Is that good what you just said about me?

Spoiler

To be honest, I can't fully comprehend what you meant, by the way.

 

[Hawkeye]

Back on topic:

Make an account anyway. Say hello, converse and if you get banned - So what?

 

[intpz]

He'll feel bad and go cry in the corner.

 

[TriflinThomas]

You think this is a game?

 

[intpz]

Do YOU think this is a game?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

You think this is a game?

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