I can post again!

[SpaceYeti]

I just noticed that he looked as if he was controlling himself a bit more than the average person. He face seems contrived. It probably has to do with him knowing he's being filmed. *shrug*

... Do people normally not control themselves? Could it have to do with the fact that I was really sad when I did the thing?

 

[Words]

Anthile is obviously more knowledgeable on the topic than anyone else. After all, he disagrees with several different psychologists who've analyzed me by a significant amount, as well as everybody else on the forum. As he has said, I'm all about sensing.

Indeed, the all-knowing Anthile.

Your offense offends me.

D'aww, but I was genuinely curious.

And anyways, Anthile started it... >_>

I joked.

Could it have to do with the fact that I was really sad when I did the thing?

Are you looking for mama's comfort or something, because you won't find anything here. Still, your experience is probably devastating. My father died a few years ago, it wasn't expected so the shock still remains.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

I dont know how this thread developed into what it did, but i dont know anything about typology. Im guessing your an intj. Cool video. I have cool videos too, but they are way more obnoxious.

But your fucking funny as fuck hahahaha..im seriously laughing..I dont know why i think its so funny. Hahaa i hardly ever laugh at anything. You have accomplished the impossible. You should post videos on the video thread. Thats what i do. I guess non-emotion makes me laugh. I really dont know.But hardly anything makes me laugh...weird.

 

[Adymus]

Really? You really want to go there? What am I even reading here? What are those Adymus-circlejerk threads all about? How can anyone come to these conclusions? You're doing that for months and in some cases even years, I think, and I just can't believe this. Does Adymus make you all stupid? It's like you've learned nothing at all in this time. If you seriously perpended any type besides ISTP or maybe ESTP, you should seriously reconsider your lives. Tell your partner that you love him or her. Spend more time with your kids or parents, preferably both. Make somebody a present who wouldn't expect it from you. Learn a new language. Plant a tree. Stop being a follower. Cook a really nice meal, even if it is just for yourself. You hear me. Whatever you do, just don't post in typology forums unless you really know what you are talking about. I'm dead serious. It's nothing personal, really. I'm just trying to help you here. It's like finding out your best friend can neither read nor write and refuses to learn it because scribbling pictogram worked just fine - and then tells you he wants to study English language and literature. Something like that.

Jesus H Christ...

Anthile, I've been wanting to say this to you for a good while, after seeing how you have acted with other ideas being exchanged on the forums. But since I'm being brought up here and indirectly insulted, I am just going to go ahead and speak my mind:

Fuck you.

One of my biggest mistakes in typing people was probably thinking you were an INTP at one time, because I really don't think an INTP would be this much of a dick to people who are actually experimenting with a new idea for once. Typology as we know it has really no strong methods of typing anyone, the whole concept is in complete darkness. I bring to the table a method that allows people to actually see patterns in their friends and family they have that can be seen in all other same or similar types.
It does not matter if this method is not scientifically validated, Neither is MBTI but I don't see you throwing a tantrum over that, if you have a method that produces good results, which mine most certainly has whether you like it or not, then it is worth looking into.
Don't expect everyone else on this forum to be as scared of new and unproven ideas as you are, they have a right to want to try out new concepts, and you do not have the right to be intimidating people into thinking like you.

If everyone thought like you Anthile, brilliant ideas that started as concepts before proven fact, Evolution, Relativity, genotypes, would have been shot down instantly by conceptual xenophobes like yourself.

 

[Words]

Anthile, Fuck you.

Go Adymus! So what does Anthile say?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Are you looking for mama's comfort or something, because you won't find anything here. Still, your experience is probably devastating. My father died a few years ago, it wasn't expected so the shock still remains.

Obviously not. My mother's not here, and her condolences would only annoy me. Getting consoled by people who are being more emotional about something than you are is irritating. I only mention it because it may be a factor. I have no idea how my emotions effect my outward appearance, and if people can judge someone's type by watching them talk to a camera for a few minutes they probably have more insight into it than I do.

 

[Adymus]

Did you not see my edit? Anyway, he honestly does remind me of all those people. YOU CANNOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME!!!! I didn't claim to know his type, just that he looks like urmom. Wait, like mymom. I don't know, maybe everyone in my life is actually an ISTP. Cmon though, you can't deny his eyelids. That's just Cox.

So what's Adymus' verdict? He's an INFJ controlling with Ti?

*edit
I just found myself about to step onto a freight train. I hate Freud.

I don't think he is going to like this, But I actually think he is an ENFJ (which you did initially bring up, so you got something there.)


Cavallier hit the nail on the head, he is really Ti-ed up. You have to ask yourself, why would an ENTJ or INTJ be that stiff? If their natural and easy use of Te naturally neutralizes their face, why would Spaceyetti need to be forcing down his expression like that? Not to meantion it shows that he is actually aware of what his expressions are doing.

This would explain why we are seeing shades of ESTP or ISTP in here, same cognitive functions, different order.

To be honest, ENFJ was my guess as soon as I first saw his Avatar, and then it only made me more confident in my guess when I heard him say something along the lines of philosophical reflection is masturbatory at best and doesn't actually get anything done.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Yes, everybody fuck Anthile!

 

[Words]

Obviously not. My mother's not here, and her condolences would only annoy me. Getting consoled by people who are being more emotional about something than you are is irritating.

Is it really?

I only mention it because it may be a factor. I have no idea how my emotions effect my outward appearance, and if people can judge someone's type by watching them talk to a camera for a few minutes they probably have more insight into it than I do.

Psychologically? I think it depends on the level of attachment you have with your dad.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Anthile, I've been wanting to say this to you for a good while, after seeing how you have acted with other ideas being exchanged on the forums. But since I'm being brought up here and indirectly insulted, I am just going to go ahead and speak my mind:

Fuck you.

One of my biggest mistakes in typing people was probably thinking you were an INTP at one time, because I really don't think an INTP would be this much of a dick to people who are actually experimenting with a new idea for once. Typology as we know it has really no strong methods of typing anyone, the whole concept is in complete darkness. I bring to the table a method that allows people to actually see patterns in their friends and family they have that can be seen in all other same or similar types.
It does not matter if this method is not scientifically validated, Neither is MBTI but I don't see you throwing a tantrum over that, if you have a method that produces good results, which mine most certainly has whether you like it or not, then it is worth looking into.
Don't expect everyone else on this forum to be as scared of new and unproven ideas as you are, they have a right to want to try out new concepts, and you do not have the right to be intimidating people into thinking like you.

If everyone thought like you Anthile, brilliant ideas that started as concepts before proven fact, Evolution, Relativity, genotypes, would have been shot down instantly by conceptual xenophobes like yourself.

Your the fuckin man. GET SOME!! what did antile say? is this what drama is? Im guessing that anthile was arguing with you about personality types? He probably based his life upon it and wanted to be an intp, and was biased towards chosing to be intp. That would explain why he would see so much importnace in the test, he thinks that intp is the best one...fukin psychology.if u ever wana piss someone the fuck off, tell them why they are acting the way they are and watch them suffer in denial.

But i really dont know what happend. I know adymus knows everything about typology though, so hes probably right in this conflict.

 

[Tyria]

Stop feeding the conflict.

And if there's going to be a fight, at least create a thread in Siberia so that the moderators won't have to move this one there when it gets out of hand.

There's no reason that being civil with one another should be thrown out of the window because of a disagreement.

 

[cheese]

Yeah, his avatar looks a LOT like the ENFJ I know (who has fantastic Ti) - like he's got a smile just bursting to come out but he's forcing it down as a tease. Didn't think it worth noting though cos I keep getting this stuff ballsed up. Anyway the midline deal is confusing to me at times, but it did seem like the muscles were taut all the way to the eyes.

Couldn't he kist be self-conscious about his jokes though? That's what it looked like to me. He'd say something funny and then keep himself from laughing so he could stay in character. I think I know what you're gonna say here but I've gotta work now so I'll argue later.

Still though, the quirks in the mouth - am I the only one who sees Cox? Although his use of his face has always seemed very aware, but maybe that's because he's an actor.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I don't think he is going to like this, But I actually think he is an ENFJ (which you did initially bring up, so you got something there.)


Cavallier hit the nail on the head, he is really Ti-ed up. You have to ask yourself, why would an ENTJ or INTJ be that stiff? If their natural and easy use of Te naturally neutralizes their face, why would Spaceyetti need to be forcing down his expression like that? Not to meantion it shows that he is actually aware of what his expressions are doing.

This would explain why we are seeing shades of ESTP or ISTP in here, same cognitive functions, different order.

To be honest, ENFJ was my guess as soon as I first saw his Avatar, and then it only made me more confident in my guess when I heard him say something along the lines of philosophical reflection is masturbatory at best and doesn't actually get anything done.

I'm sorry if you dislike it, but it is masturbatory. After the point it loses it's actual usefulness, which is basically as soon as you understand logic. I mean... it is. How does that make me an ENFJ? You can't claim I'm an ISTJ just because I state the moon is composed primarily of rock, can you?

 

[nexion]

Anthile, I've been wanting to say this to you for a good while, after seeing how you have acted with other ideas being exchanged on the forums. But since I'm being brought up here and indirectly insulted, I am just going to go ahead and speak my mind:

Fuck you.

One of my biggest mistakes in typing people was probably thinking you were an INTP at one time, because I really don't think an INTP would be this much of a dick to people who are actually experimenting with a new idea for once. Typology as we know it has really no strong methods of typing anyone, the whole concept is in complete darkness. I bring to the table a method that allows people to actually see patterns in their friends and family they have that can be seen in all other same or similar types.
It does not matter if this method is not scientifically validated, Neither is MBTI but I don't see you throwing a tantrum over that, if you have a method that produces good results, which mine most certainly has whether you like it or not, then it is worth looking into.
Don't expect everyone else on this forum to be as scared of new and unproven ideas as you are, they have a right to want to try out new concepts, and you do not have the right to be intimidating people into thinking like you.

If everyone thought like you Anthile, brilliant ideas that started as concepts before proven fact, Evolution, Relativity, genotypes, would have been shot down instantly by conceptual xenophobes like yourself.

Holy shit. I think it's about for me to avoid yet another conflict and leave this thread.

...

Or not post here anymore... oh wait. Dammit.

Wow... I really suck at this typology stuff though. *Goes to read Adymus' threads*

Waitaminute. I have Biology to do. FUUUUUUUUUUUU-

 

[Anthile]

Anthile is obviously more knowledgeable on the topic than anyone else. After all, he disagrees with several different psychologists who've analyzed me by a significant amount, as well as everybody else on the forum. As he has said, I'm all about sensing.

I'm tempted to utter That's exactly what an S type would say! but I'm not doing that. I'd like to clarify that I don't follow the S-is-for-Subhuman philosophy a disturbing amount of people on the internet seem to embrace, nor do I think S-types somehow naturally stupid. I don't really care what type you are, I don't care what anyone's type is. Important is not what people are but what people do. Typology must not be an end in itself but some people obviously think differently. Typology should be about finding yourself, about becoming a better person. If it doesn't do that we should collect all resources on typology and burn them because otherwise it will just serve people with tiny minds as a cheap justification for hate. It's not about being right or wrong here it is about people indulging in epistemological decadence, about people building fortresses of truisms. This is the point where typology becomes superstition and Jung's work are placed between the Kabbalah and the Tractatus Astrologico Magicus. It is mandatory to go one step ahead and constantly question the inner logic of what you do and always keep the possibility in mind that everything you know could be wrong; especially when it comes to such a flimsy subject such as typology.
You say I disagree with your psychologists and I ask , sure, why not? It's not anybody has been typed in such a way that one can say yep, that's how it is - deal with it, despite what so-called experts say. To determine how correct your test result could possible be I would have to see the testing methods and talk to the psychologists. In the end, every standardized test works just like every other piece of software - it can only compute what you put in. The reason why typology has such a weak reputation in academics is precisely because of that. Humans are masters of self-deceit. If it was a written test, are you absolutely sure your answers were perfectly honest? Are you absolutely sure you didn't cross answers because you were afraid what the true result might be? Are you absolutely sure you didn't cross answers in a way you want to be rather than you truly are? Hell, I know I was guilty of these three pitfalls when I began with personality tests and constantly scored as INTP. They say that finding yourself is a spiritual experience, yes, but it is not as pleasant as people think it is. Once you go there, you'll figure out that oneself is always weaved into the deepest of darkness. In the end, your type does not matter, doubly so if you reject your real type. It never will. What matters is what you do with whatever you think you are.
Needless to say, I might be wrong with my assumption. I simply have no reason to think otherwise. I don't deal in absolutes. Science never does. If you want certainty, go to a church or something. That is not my department.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Is it really?

Yes.

Psychologically? I think it depends on the level of attachment you have with your dad.

... He's my dad. He was the cool parent.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Heya, Anthile.

Blah blah blah.

Did you type that much specifically so I wouldn't bother reading it?

 

[nexion]

I never take sides in any conflict (if in fact this is a real conflict), so I will speak my mind: I liked your last post, Anthile.

I think I may have screwed myself with all this typology.
This will only teach me to be more cautious. Maybe.

 

[Words]

I think Yeti is INTP. Sadly, I have nothing up my sleeves. Ti-checks and everything else?

why would an ENTJ or INTJ be that stiff?

Could come from a situational effect.

Stop feeding the conflict.

I don't think it's that serious...or maybe it is.

Couldn't he kist be self-conscious about his jokes though?

Most likely.

... He's my dad. He was the cool parent.

Must be tough.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

My English teacher was an ENFJ...he was extremely tight-lipped and almost devilish in his restrained way of expressing emotions, and those eyes...my god, I swear sometimes I thought I he was Satan himself. Although when it came to poetry and English literature he turned into a completely different person. I can see ENFJ in SpaceYeti's facial expressions, but I don't think that's enough to make a conclusion.

 

[Anthile]

If everyone thought like you Anthile, brilliant ideas that started as concepts before proven fact, Evolution, Relativity, genotypes, would have been shot down instantly by conceptual xenophobes like yourself.

Bitter much? At least Darwin, Einstein & Co. didn't try to sell their concepts as brilliant before they came up with solid proof. Jung never really did that. I admit, I would have have laughed or at least seriously doubted their theories if they couldn't prove their concepts. People also laughed at Immanuel Velikovsky and in the end, they were absolutely right with that.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Okay, break it up. Anthile's a jerk. We get it. Let's move on.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

I'm tempted to utter That's exactly what an S type would say! but I'm not doing that. I'd like to clarify that I don't follow the S-is-for-Subhuman philosophy a disturbing amount of people on the internet seem to embrace, nor do I think S-types somehow naturally stupid. I don't really care what type you are, I don't care what anyone's type is. Important is not what people are but what people do. Typology must not be an end in itself but some people obviously think differently. Typology should be about finding yourself, about becoming a better person. If it doesn't do that we should collect all resources on typology and burn them because otherwise it will just serve people with tiny minds as a cheap justification for hate. It's not about being right or wrong here it is about people indulging in epistemological decadence, about people building fortresses of truisms. This is the point where typology becomes superstition and Jung's work are placed between the Kabbalah and the Tractatus Astrologico Magicus. It is mandatory to go one step ahead and constantly question the inner logic of what you do and always keep the possibility in mind that everything you know could be wrong; especially when it comes to such a flimsy subject such as typology.
You say I disagree with your psychologists and I ask , sure, why not? It's not anybody has been typed in such a way that one can say yep, that's how it is - deal with it, despite what so-called experts say. To determine how correct your test result could possible be I would have to see the testing methods and talk to the psychologists. In the end, every standardized test works just like every other piece of software - it can only compute what you put in. The reason why typology has such a weak reputation in academics is precisely because of that. Humans are masters of self-deceit. If it was a written test, are you absolutely sure your answers were perfectly honest? Are you absolutely sure you didn't cross answers because you were afraid what the true result might be? Are you absolutely sure you didn't cross answers in a way you want to be rather than you truly are? Hell, I know I was guilty of these three pitfalls when I began with personality tests and constantly scored as INTP. They say that finding yourself is a spiritual experience, yes, but it is not as pleasant as people think it is. Once you go there, you'll figure out that oneself is always weaved into the deepest of darkness. In the end, your type does not matter, doubly so if you reject your real type. It never will. What matters is what you do with whatever you think you are.
Needless to say, I might be wrong with my assumption. I simply have no reason to think otherwise. I don't deal in absolutes. Science never does. If you want certainty, go to a church or something. That is not my department.

Very passionate. I have to ask..Why do you care so much about proving shit wrong? Im an intp and i dont even have this much passion for shit im interested in. Ya i call myself an intp. Everyones different, ive accepted that. You obviously care deeply about proving this test wrong, insulting jung. Really? Why do you care so much about this? Did you get a result you didnt like, so you have to prove it wrong? Its ike drama. I dont thnk intps like drama, or can even perceive it.

You said that the test should be about finding inner self...how are we not doing it here? How is adymus not doing it. Who gives a shit. This is so dumb. Im not on your side or adymus side im on my side. From your text, it seems that you are trying to find a way to disprove typology..Why? it could be a number of things psychologically. Maybe you got test results you didnt like. But in this case it was probably someone telling you your a personality you dont want to be...i say who gives a flying fuck. seriously? just drop it. I cant believe there is drama on an intp forum haha...thats funny. Ive never experienced this social drama people talk about before...I hope that i can get in some of the pulsing drama myself so i can make people feel bad about themselves, that sounds fun.....someone argue with me.

 

[nexion]

If I were to ever truly learn about this typology stuff, it would only be for novelty. I might as well forget that typology even exists, and just look at everyone as a highly complex person rather than a type. Dammit. I'm having such conflicting views right now, even more conflicting than usual. WHY AM I INHERENTLY CONFLICTED?!?!

 

[DesertSmeagle]

If I were to ever truly learn about this typology stuff, it would only be for novelty. I might as well forget that typology even exists, and just look at everyone as a highly complex person rather than a type. Dammit. I'm having such conflicting views right now, even more conflicting than usual. WHY AM I INHERENTLY CONFLICTED?!?!

Theres a psych term for that haha. Cognitive dissonance. Are you conflicted because you want to see people as highly complex, because you know its right, but you cant help but think typology is right too?

 

[Words]

If I were to ever truly learn about this typology stuff, it would only be for novelty. I might as well forget that typology even exists, and just look at everyone as a highly complex person rather than a type. Dammit. I'm having such conflicting views right now, even more conflicting than usual. WHY AM I INHERENTLY CONFLICTED?!?!

You're thinking in extremes.

Complexity and type aren't mutually exclusive. The problem is the accuracy of the theory.

 

[Adymus]

Bitter much? At least Darwin, Einstein & Co. didn't try to sell their concepts as brilliant before they came up with solid proof. Jung never really did that. I admit, I would have have laughed or at least seriously doubted their theories if they couldn't prove their concepts. People also laughed at Immanuel Velikovsky and in the end, they were absolutely right with that.

You're asking me if I am bitter because some twat on a forum throws a conniption fit over people listening to me?

Yeah, I'm going to go with a no.

Hey, that's cool, by all means continue your doubt, your opinion is completely irrelevant to whether we are right or wrong anyway.

 

[SpaceYeti]

If I were to ever truly learn about this typology stuff, it would only be for novelty. I might as well forget that typology even exists, and just look at everyone as a highly complex person rather than a type. Dammit. I'm having such conflicting views right now, even more conflicting than usual. WHY AM I INHERENTLY CONFLICTED?!?!

Because you have an id and a superego?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Bitter much? At least Darwin, Einstein & Co. didn't try to sell their concepts as brilliant before they came up with solid proof. Jung never really did that. I admit, I would have have laughed or at least seriously doubted their theories if they couldn't prove their concepts. People also laughed at Immanuel Velikovsky and in the end, they were absolutely right with that.

That's because they were all introverts and believed the world would have thought them crazy(which is probably true). I hear Einstein walked the streets and conversed with people, that sounds pretty ENTPish, Socratesean, you might say.

 

[nexion]

Theres a psych term for that haha. Cognitive dissonance. Are you conflicted because you want to see people as highly complex, because you know its right, but you cant help but think typology is right too?

No, I'm not conflicted between type and reality; only just about everything else. I'm not sure if that was even relevant to the context of the post.

I don't know... I do remember learning about cognitive dissonance. I must have one damn severe case. I feel almost my entire inner being, and thusly most of the structure I've formed within my mind, have been created with two or more entirely contradicting worldviews. And then sometimes I have the thoughts that they aren't contradictory at all, that they overlap, or that it is perfectly possible for one to be both at the same (a false dichotomy). I know that people and the world, intentions, everything is a lot more complex than it SEEMS to be, but science has broken down everything into a few simple elementary particles, and it makes no sense to me. So my logical, scientific worldview must be conflicting with whatever the hell other worldview I have... realism and idealism constantly wage wars in my heads. I think my mind might be deeply screwed.

You're thinking in extremes.

Complexity and type aren't mutually exclusive. The problem is the accuracy of the theory.

That post is really more about myself than others. I fear that ever since learning of MBTI and others, that I have been subjecting myself to practices which would increase my closeness to being an archetype, so then I have that once again conflicting with who I really am... I am almost sure I am an INTP, though maybe with a little more F than I'd like to admit, plain and simple, and I don't feel much need to defend myself on the topic. But sometimes I doubt myself (it is habit for me to doubt myself). So I'm almost sure I'm INTP, but maybe some things would have worked out much better if I had never known that.

Well, there I go, bearing my soul again, hoping again that I won't regret that I did so. I would have spent much more time describing myself to give some sort if reference point, but I don't think either you or I care that much.

Wow, I suppose I am one depressed motherfucker. One thing that I have really enjoyed about this forum is that I have been able to express myself entirely truthfully and genuinely (and I fear that I am deeply screwed, as said earlier) and not be judged or told that I am weird or crazy (not that I generally care being called weird or crazy, but if someone were to respond to a post such as this like that, I would not only be insulted at that person's lack of depth but I would have to take that person's word as being genuinely serious, since so many people have the gall to hate or label those who are different from them. I swear it comes out of deep fear. But what are you so afraid of?)

 

[nexion]

Because you have an id and a superego?

Well played, sir.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

I didnt think it would come to this.....watch these videos, they WILL change your life. Only watch them if you ready for something that will change you as a person.


YouTube - Action in the Woods
YouTube - The King's Acid trip

 

[DesertSmeagle]

No, I'm not conflicted between type and reality; only just about everything else. I'm not sure if that was even relevant to the context of the post.

I don't know... I do remember learning about cognitive dissonance. I must have one damn severe case. I feel almost my entire inner being, and thusly most of the structure I've formed within my mind, have been created with two or more entirely contradicting worldviews. And then sometimes I have the thoughts that they aren't contradictory at all, that they overlap, or that it is perfectly possible for one to be both at the same (a false dichotomy). I know that people and the world, intentions, everything is a lot more complex than it SEEMS to be, but science has broken down everything into a few simple elementary particles, and it makes no sense to me. So my logical, scientific worldview must be conflicting with whatever the hell other worldview I have... realism and idealism constantly wage wars in my heads. I think my mind might be deeply screwed.

That post is really more about myself than others. I fear that ever since learning of MBTI and others, that I have been subjecting myself to practices which would increase my closeness to being an archetype, so then I have that once again conflicting with who I really am... I am almost sure I am an INTP, though maybe with a little more F than I'd like to admit, plain and simple, and I don't feel much need to defend myself on the topic. But sometimes I doubt myself (it is habit for me to doubt myself). So I'm almost sure I'm INTP, but maybe some things would have worked out much better if I had never known that.

Well, there I go, bearing my soul again, hoping again that I won't regret that I did so. I would have spent much more time describing myself to give some sort if reference point, but I don't think either you or I care that much.

Wow, I suppose I am one depressed motherfucker. One thing that I have really enjoyed about this forum is that I have been able to express myself entirely truthfully and genuinely (and I fear that I am deeply screwed, as said earlier) and not be judged or told that I am weird or crazy (not that I generally care being called weird or crazy, but if someone were to respond to a post such as this like that, I would not only be insulted at that person's lack of depth but I would have to take that person's word as being genuinely serious, since so many people have the gall to hate or label those who are different from them. I swear it comes out of deep fear. But what are you so afraid of?)

Hmm interesting. Sounds to me like your overanalyzing the fuck out of everything. I did this once. Its like your trying to analyze your own consciousness and all of society. Shit i went throught that too like last year when i was deeply depressed. I know exactly what youre talking about.There are sooo many different scientific views and theories out there that i didnt know which was true. Id get set in beleiving one thing about something, and another thing would pop up, contradicting what i once belived. Its fucking rediculous.

 

[SpaceYeti]

That's because they were all introverts and believed the world would have thought them crazy(which is probably true). I hear Einstein walked the streets and conversed with people, that sounds pretty ENTPish, Socratesean, you might say.

I'd actually say "Socratic", would I use the name at all.

 

[Cegorach]

Anthile, I've been wanting to say this to you for a good while, after seeing how you have acted with other ideas being exchanged on the forums. But since I'm being brought up here and indirectly insulted, I am just going to go ahead and speak my mind:

Fuck you.

I've temp-banned Adymus for three days for something that anybody should be able to recognize is obviously immature behavior, he's lucky it's only for this long but I'm hoping he'll get the point.

Argue with maturity and respect, please.
Your perception of whether or not somebody else is being respectful does not justify immature retaliation or flaming.

 

[nexion]

Hmm interesting. Sounds to me like your overanalyzing the fuck out of everything. I did this once. Its like your trying to analyze your own consciousness and all of society. Shit i went throught that too like last year when i was deeply depressed. I know exactly what youre talking about.There are sooo many different scientific views and theories out there that i didnt know which was true. Id get set in beleiving one thing about something, and another thing would pop up, contradicting what i once belived. Its fucking rediculous.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(I love all of your videos)

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I didnt think it would come to this.....watch these videos, they WILL change your life. Only watch them if you ready for something that will change you as a person.


YouTube - Action in the Woods
YouTube - The King's Acid trip

Oh my fucking god...dude! We must be on like similar wavelengths or something.
The first video man..Hilarious and interesting, it was really speaking to my Ne...you must be closer to ENTP or ENFP..there was a lot of fantasy in there. And then...you came out with the Song of Storms!! I was just listening to that earlier today like a million times on youtube....Wow. Sorry for that Fe explosion but this is just crazy.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Hahaha thanks guys. Ya i can see myself as an ENTP. If i didnt have the whole social anxiety thing goin on, id probably act like that at school and around most other people.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

The FPS perspective is pretty cool.

 

[Claverhouse]

Stop feeding the conflict.

And if there's going to be a fight, at least create a thread in Siberia so that the moderators won't have to move this one there when it gets out of hand.

Congratulations upon your clairvoyance.


'Cepting it's the Oubliette rather than Siberia since the latter is for Temporary Internal Exile --- rarely used. [ This is not a reflection upon the OP. ]

There's no reason that being civil with one another should be thrown out of the window because of a disagreement.

Quite.

Although, as in that life of which a forum is merely a pale shadowy microcosm --- which real life itself is but that of the richer reality beyond --- conflict comes and conflict goes... Prolly helps to strengthen authenticity or something.


Of course it could be closed in any instant.





Claverhouse

 

[cheese]

I've temp-banned Adymus for three days for something that anybody should be able to recognize is obviously immature behavior, he's lucky it's only for this long but I'm hoping he'll get the point.

Argue with maturity and respect, please.

Your perception of whether or not somebody else is being respectful does not justify immature retaliation or flaming

And your perception doesn't justify banning...oh wait it does.

No no, it's your job and someone has to do it. Seriously though, I have very rarely understood the rationale behind banning people. Maybe because it seems to be somewhat inconsistent - the number of times I've seen someone more or less say "fuck you", just in different words...sometimes ones meaning far worse than that, which is really simply an expression of anger/frustration/contempt. But as soon as that sentiment is placed into those specific words, it's suddenly a whole lot worse, and ban-worthy. Banning's such an imprecise art. But then I've never been a mod before, and I do believe you're all working hard to keep the balance right; it also seems fairly likely I simply respond to certain things differently to others. I found Anthile's post as incendiary as I would a simple "fuck you, retards", which was more or less Adymus' message to him. But then, obscenities are easier to identify and punish than other word-arrangements.

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The most interesting thing about this thread is how Yeti has created a whirlpool (well, a little one) of passionate activity around absolutely nothing - again. How does he do this? Is this a mark of an NFJ? It's even weirder because I've noticed said activity isn't necessarily about him; he just happens to instigate it, and I doubt there's any intention to.

*edit
He's a laxative. That's what Spacey is. He's like ten packs of Ricola.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Ya I completely agree. What is "fuck you"? . What decided that te word fuck is any differnt than any other words? "fuck you" is just a short way of saying," I disagree with everything you say, and don't like you as a person, I wish you bad fortune". What if he said that?

And space yeti is completely different in the video than how I pictured him before. He's a very interesting person haha I hope he makes more videos. How did this thread become what it is? Hahaha it's crazy.

 

[nexion]

The most interesting thing about this thread is how Yeti has created a whirlpool (well, a little one) of passionate activity around absolutely nothing - again. How does he do this? Is this a mark of an NFJ? It's even weirder because I've noticed said activity isn't necessarily about him; he just happens to instigate it, and I doubt there's any intention to.

This utterly perplexes me as well.

 

[Melllvar]

How did this thread become what it is? Hahaha it's crazy.

I'd quit following this thread back around post #12, and I'm wondering the same exact thing.

I have a compulsive desire to read the final posts of any member who I've seen has been banned (although I haven't w/ this thread yet), and I've noticed some of them could have probably been avoided had an impartial third party tried to moderate the situations through private messages (ashitaria comes to mind).

On the other hand, I also post on a forum that's completely unmoderated with no rules whatsoever, except for a few people who have moderator powers and occasionally use it to threaten other members during arguments. Compared to that, the INTPf mods (whoever they are, I've only figured out a few) seem pretty fair and benign.

Edit: All I've decided so far is that SpaceYeti is hilarious and should be a comedian (in fact I'm not at all sure his video wasn't scripted for comedic intent). Also that he's 100% right about Portal.

 

[snafupants]

What's the H stand for?

Edit: If I had to guess I suppose I'd venture with Holy, or maybe Hopeless. Hannibal? Henry?

in this case, hectoring; anthile is being a twat.

 

[Minuend]

I think I may have screwed myself with all this typology.
This will only teach me to be more cautious. Maybe.

I think is a bit hasty. The way I see it, it's something interesting to play with, but I don't let it dominate my thinking. I don't get so attached to it that I see a problem with using it. So to speak.

I don't really see the problem with playing around with it. Sure it will influence your thinking, but so will everything else. At least typology tries to give you an understanding of people's motives and thinking. "Adymus' model" (Podlair whatever) says you can't really know what type people are looking solely at interest or behaviour. It gives more flexibility.

I suppose I see it as something I can turn on and off. Even though some would probably argue otherwise as it would give you subconscious biases or so.

I didn't explain this the way I wanted to. I don't think my point will come across with this.

The most interesting thing about this thread is how Yeti has created a whirlpool (well, a little one) of passionate activity around absolutely nothing - again. How does he do this? Is this a mark of an NFJ? It's even weirder because I've noticed said activity isn't necessarily about him; he just happens to instigate it, and I doubt there's any intention to.

*edit
He's a laxative. That's what Spacey is. He's like ten packs of Ricola.

Yeti draws out our Fe fetish for drama.

Hmm, I do agree Anthile's post could be seen just as offensive as Adymus' tho.

And I still think Anthile is INFP

 

[Cegorach]

And your perception doesn't justify banning...oh wait it does.

No no, it's your job and someone has to do it. Seriously though, I have very rarely understood the rationale behind banning people. Maybe because it seems to be somewhat inconsistent - the number of times I've seen someone more or less say "fuck you", just in different words...sometimes ones meaning far worse than that, which is really simply an expression of anger/frustration/contempt. But as soon as that sentiment is placed into those specific words, it's suddenly a whole lot worse, and ban-worthy. Banning's such an imprecise art. But then I've never been a mod before, and I do believe you're all working hard to keep the balance right; it also seems fairly likely I simply respond to certain things differently to others. I found Anthile's post as incendiary as I would a simple "fuck you, retards", which was more or less Adymus' message to him. But then, obscenities are easier to identify and punish than other word-arrangements.

I don't have any desire to censor opinions or hinder discussion, if Adymus had simply stated that he honestly disliked Anthile or his attitude I could respect that, it would be an opinion, but once ad hominems or flames/insults are introduced it always goes downhill from there.
If you want an example go to /b/ or read through YouTube comments; various individuals all intent on attacking others according to what they personally value.


"Fuck You" is just another way of implying that you dislike somebody while also making every attempt to show an absence of respect towards them.

The line between an honest remark and a personal attack because of temporary emotional instability is very important and using words specifically designed to denote lack of respect makes your intent quite obvious.
Arguing why they're defined as they are isn't much different than arguing why any other term is defined as it is, and I do not care to get into a philosophical debate in absence of the point.
I'm sure Adymus was aware of the connotations of "Fuck You".

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My perception of this is structured and not emotionally charged - I can assure you that I do not antagonize or dehumanize others and can't help but assume that that is the problem at the center of many, many conflicts; my attachment to this forum is minimal and while I would honestly tell any member if I disliked them or my opinion on their intelligence should it be asked (assuming I bothered responding at all to such a query) I do not ban people based on any reason other than them displaying disrespect for another member, trolling or causing excessive chaos within the forum in some other way.

I could care less whether members are offended by something, just treat one another as something more than dirt, please.


At worst I think Adymus has a bit of a temper, he's not intent on insulting others but can lash out at them as if they were lesser beings when frustrated, which is why he's only going to be away for three days, the shortest ban I've ever given (most of the others being infinite in duration).

 

[Anthile]

It's not about disagreeing or just being offensive. If we could ban everyone with whom I disagree with, I'd be alone here with Tyria, Cegorach, Fukyo and Google Spider #78; grilling marshmallows over a campfire and playing banjo. It's about profanity, plain and simple.

I think is a bit hasty. The way I see it, it's something interesting to play with, but I don't let it dominate my thinking. I don't get so attached to it that I see a problem with using it. So to speak.

I don't really see the problem with playing around with it. Sure it will influence your thinking, but so will everything else. At least typology tries to give you an understanding of people's motives and thinking. "Adymus' model" (Podlair whatever) says you can't really know what type people are looking solely at interest or behaviour. It gives more flexibility.

I suppose I see it as something I can turn on and off. Even though some would probably argue otherwise as it would give you subconscious biases or so.

I didn't explain this the way I wanted to. I don't think my point will come across with this.



Yeti draws out our Fe fetish for drama.

Hmm, I do agree Anthile's post could be seen just as offensive as Adymus' tho.

Pulling people out of their comfort zone was pretty much the point of my first tirade. Of course I was aware that people wouldn't like it. Every other reaction from this forum would have been astounding. I'm only surprised that Adymus replied in the first place since I only attacked his 'followers' for swallowing every word. I always thought he was someone who would encourage independent thinking and skepticism, especially since these are supposedly INTP virtues. I guess I was wrong with that.

^Disclaimer: if anyone feels like replying to any of that, I will not reply in return. I'm done with that at this point.

And I still think Anthile is INFP

I bet you would make a great marshmallow.

in this case, hectoring; anthile is being a twat.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/30/why-do-folks-say-jesus-h-christ

 

[Causeless]

I'm honestly confused as to all this hate on Anthile.

He brought up a point he thought necessary to bring up, and a valid one from a perspective. He wasn't forcing his opinion on anyone's plate, he offered it. It was a harsh one, but take it or fucking leave it folks.

He's right, you're all smart enough to think for yourselves, or at least you should be.

 

[DarkGreen]

I want to go back to the funny pictures. TmT