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i am a right brain intp female brain

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reading maps is somethign im horrible at same goes with women

its got something to do with the hunting caveman status

the female brain has a stronger corpus callusom or w/e its called basically the thign connecting left and right so they can transfer data from left to right brain faster.

they say women brain produce half seretonin than man so girls are more apt to be deppressed then men
 

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Please remember that we are discussing generalities that don't necessarily apply to all people within a given gender. For example, men are "taller" than women in general, but there are some women who are taller than some guys, and some guys who are shorter than some women.

Any differences are a matter of degree. The bell curve for women just tends to fall lower than men on SOME forms of spatial aptitude tests, while the bell curve for men just happens to fall lower than women in some types of vocabulary tests. It doesn't mean all women stink at navigation and maps, nor that all men stink with language skills.

(For example, I score higher than the bell curve for men and women on the spatial aptitudes as well as the language aptitudes.)
 

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I'm a guy, and my spatial aptitude is terrible, so I can attest to exceptions.

I used to use 'right-brained' 'left-brained' distinctions, but I'm never quite sure what people exactly mean by it, as much of the ideas about it are dubious, if not mythical.
 

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I'm female, and according to those tests, I'm right brained, and male brained. For some reason, I can get a perfect score on the spatial section every time, and I get higher than average on the verbal section. I do pretty well on everything except for the section where you have to indicated which items changed location.

And I agree that the whole right/left brain thing is a bit dubious. My roommate is a psychology major. I was reading one of her textbooks once, and there was a section disproving the whole thing on a biological level. It appears to be a figment of pop culture's imagination.
 

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I've read all P's are right brain dominant and all J's are left brain dominant - think is was Lenore Thompson?
 

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However, if we redefine right-brained and left-brained to Rpeps and Lpeps, (i.e. new words) then we've actually got a pretty good distinction. It's too bad we aren't like the French, who have a committee for deciding what is "officially" the meaning of words. We'll just have to settle for the conundrum that right-brained people don't necessarily have dominant right-hemisphere brain control, etc.
 

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I've read all P's are right brain dominant and all J's are left brain dominant - think is was Lenore Thompson?

That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

Thomson's usually a little more nuanced, I'm sure she qualified things better than that.

The problem already is that J/P is based on which function you extrovert, NOT on your dominant function... and introverts extrovert their secondary while extroverts show their primary. So I'm not sure that statement even makes logical sense, even before dragging actual biological facts into it.
 
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Please remember that we are discussing generalities that don't necessarily apply to all people within a given gender. For example, men are "taller" than women in general, but there are some women who are taller than some guys, and some guys who are shorter than some women.

Any differences are a matter of degree. The bell curve for women just tends to fall lower than men on SOME forms of spatial aptitude tests, while the bell curve for men just happens to fall lower than women in some types of vocabulary tests. It doesn't mean all women stink at navigation and maps, nor that all men stink with language skills.

(For example, I score higher than the bell curve for men and women on the spatial aptitudes as well as the language aptitudes.)

I concur with most of what you wrote here. My spatial abilities are usually in the mid-range of these tests yet I score pretty high on the verbal aptitude and empathising tests. I consider myself more of a "folk psychologist" than a "folk physicist". When I took this test, I scored 50% on the female side. The bit about the 2d:4d ratio was interesting; I have measured the length of my index finger and my ring finger several times and the 2d:4d ratio was always greater than or equal to 1.00.

I consider gender and biological sex to be different though
 

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That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

Thomson's usually a little more nuanced, I'm sure she qualified things better than that.

The problem already is that J/P is based on which function you extrovert, NOT on your dominant function... and introverts extrovert their secondary while extroverts show their primary. So I'm not sure that statement even makes logical sense, even before dragging actual biological facts into it.

I think this is related to the way Adymus talks about type - dividing all the functions into two categories: Adaptive and Directive.

Adaptive:
Ti
Fi
Ne
Se

Directive:
Te
Fe
Ni
Si


Basically P types are those who have Adaptive functions as their top 2 functions (eg an INTP, with TiNe) and J types are those with Directive functions as their top 2 (eg an ENFJ, with FeNi). You can test this if you want, by going through all the types.

Adymus' method of visual typing (watching the face and inferring which portions of the brain are being used) ties into this very well: Ni and Si are indicated by eye-drifts to the left (J/Directive/left-brain), whereas Ti and Fi are indicated by eye-drifts to the right (P/Adaptive/right-brain).

The other functions are indicated by cues that generally don't conflict with the right-brain/left-brain hypothesis.

Anyway, I've found his stuff is mostly in line with Thomson's, and XXXX seems in line with him, so perhaps XXXX isn't totally off.

IIRC, Thomson called Ti and Fi irrational functions, which I found odd - along with Ne and Se, yet Ni, Si, Te, Fe were rational functions. Again, this matches the Adaptive/Directive divide and visual typing cues.
 
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