So you see - they are useful. Einstein's one guy out of what... 100.000 who died as bums, or were shoe-shiners in in the 1920s? Obedient workers, on the other hand, were the ones who build the railroads.
Being in favor of anarchy is one thing, but actually living in anarchy is another thing. Anarchistic thoughts sound good, but think about it - would it be so good if you had to live in a country which is in anarchy? No profit, no advancement, no research, no food, free crime, no punishment... Almost like those post-apocalyptic movies, closer to the zombie movies, as they slowly deteriorate... That is, of course, if nobody would take charge, which someone would.
You say "we" need laws, do you mean you and me? I don't need laws, why would i need them? Laws restrict us from acting openly unlawful. I'm not going to start killing people, I'm not going to start robbing people, law or not. In general - yes, general population does need laws. And we, intuitives, question the law. But what good does it do? Is it any useful? The other day I saw another petition for something that somebody didn't like - "how time-wasting", I thought.
As for your "final point", that wasn't my point. My point was that what you said was idiotically unfit here, or in any other discussion, unless you want to end it.
If we are going to continue this discussion, tell me where the usefulness actually comes in, because in most cases - I don't see it. Mind the word "most" here, don't ignore it. Sensors, however, they do all the work that needs to be done, and they are happy with it.
Yes, I already admitted they are useful, just as useful as loving, caring robots. Again, I think humans are capable of much more than 'just' that, but i'm not arguing they're absolutely useless. Also, what if i value just one person that did great discoveries just as much as the 100.000 railroad workers that built your railroads together? Who is to say that INTPs get lesser jobs or are worse at them? Honestly, we may not be good at all the things, but there's certainly quite some areas INTPs excel at. Useless? INTPs can do the mundane work you consider oh so useful and think about anything - wether you'll consider it useful or useless - at the same time. Even if you consider the thoughts 'useless', it's still only a bonus on top of our already established usefulness.
So yes, only very few of our characteristic thoughts can be considered useful to society as a whole. Most of our ideas, while possibly true, aren't interesting enough for the loving robots we call our peers to care. But once upon a time, the thoughts are groundbreaking, and in my opinion worth all the 'wasted' thoughts that went before them.
Furthermore : critical thinking, questioning established norms including laws, etc..., does not have to resolve into anarchy. You keep jumping to this apocalyptic anarchy conclusion, and I don't see why. Anarchy is not the only way to change things.
As for laws... If you were alone on the world, you wouldn't need laws. By we I meant people, any society in which people interact. Personally, I like a good steak or pork once upon a time. That doesn't mean i'm about to ask for the wrong meat in india or israel. They're their laws. I question them, I find them useless and see no point. That doesn't mean i'll break them, nor petition against them, cause as you said, it's an awful waste of time. I'll just eat something else. Useless thought? Sure, until enough Indians agree and they decide to eat their holy cows.
Why do we have active organs of both politics (setting / changing laws) and justice (judging actual cases)? Because even our laws aren't set in stone and are always subject to change. That's simply how it works. Things change, we want progress, and for progress it is required that SOMEONE THINKS. I'd consider progress rather useful. How did we come to our modern society? By people questioning our previous systems and beliefs and improving them. How will we continue to improve things? Exactly the same way. Get thinking!
If you're not convinced, by all means, forget everyone who ever had an idea. Forget anyone who ever established any progress by questioning what people considered the norm. Praise the ones that shut up and do their jobs and are happy about it. Lets go back to the feudal ages. None had to do any thinking, everyone just listened to their own master up the food chain, had to shut up and do their work. The earth was still flat, but why bother thinking about the shape of the earth... most people barely ever got out of their own village anyways! (Thinking about the shape of the earth, oh boy, such a silly thought!)
A discussion ends when we realise we're both too hardheaded or someone is convinced. As I said, in the light of this discussion, the argument does not actually add any weight. Again, to me, that doesn't mean it's any less true or interesting, it's just not a useful argument, rather a fun fact. Forget I mentioned it if it bothers you so much.
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