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How to be less serious (if you're INTP)

yogurtexpress

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So after months of thinking (thanks, Ti) and sorting out my mental issues, I've come to a few conclusions about myself:

- In public, I came off as super serious and was utterly oblivious to this fact.

- I couldn't enjoy every-day Se activities--first of all, because I didn't have Se, and second of all, because an INTP tends to totally miss the point of these activities because he subjects them to over-analysis. This explains why I had anxiety during my last two trips on weed. It wasn't the weed that caused the anxiety, it was my really fucked up thinking patterns.

- Ti/Ne is a horrible combination for things like everyday small talk, social graces, going to parties, going on dates, being fashionable, etc. I made this point earlier to a friend: Se/Fe are generally the most favored social traits, and this makes an INTP fairly screwed (at least at a young age before he/she develops Fe) in most social matters.

In fact, I'll go a step further and say that even INTJs are better off than INTPs because even though INTJs have low Se, their high Te lets them succeed in the professional world and therefore they have a leg up compared to the average INTP. I still haven't concluded whether Ti or Ni is more detrimental for everyday life, but all I can say for now based on my knowledge of these two functions is that they both get in the way life (at least compared to the more common and more academically favored introverted function, Si).

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Which leads me to my argument: INTPs tend to be super serious compared to most types because Ti/Ne is too damn focused on the big matters. You know what I mean: the meaning of life, our place in the universe, and all that good mumbo-jumbo which INTPs tend to obsess about, the stuff that some types don't sweat at all, or they're just not analyzing it as deeply as we are because their Ti isn't so high (I'm looking at you, ENTPs).

This abstract form of thinking is excellent for philosophy papers, deep discussions, etc. but it needs the right context. I realized something was fucked up when I couldn't even walk down the street or have a casual conversation with someone without subjecting it to my Ti--and that never ends well in most social/public matters, considering that this is the function that wants to analyze, and break down, and criticize just about anything it comes across, in a highly detached and abstract matter.

So an INTP can be less serious by:

1) Developing Fe
2) Less focus, less thinking, less examination

Socrates did say the unexamined life is not worth living, but Socrates also existed before personality psychology, so he was probably unaware how subjective his statement was. To an INTP, examination comes naturally; I would argue that it's a harder and much more worthwhile task--for us, anyway--to live life without examination.

And that's my final point. We are beings of observation, as well as information. And sometimes the concrete information is just as important as the abstract. To most of society I say think more, but to INTPs I say: think less. If we think less, examine less, and try to live life for the pure sake of enjoyment, who knows, we can actually have a little bit of fun in the process.

--Note: I realize that in some ways, I'm stating nothing new, and that a good deal of INTPs on this forum are probably aware of this information already. I'm only 21, still developing my weaker functions, so I'm just spouting what I learned from my journey. If you knew all this already, then disregard it. Or feel free to argue it and teach me something new.
 

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think less, examine less, and try to live life for the pure sake of enjoyment

...oxymoron.

Seriously though. Isn't the MBTI all about preferences? If you're INTP (or any other type), it means you don't want to be any other way. You say you don't enjoy Se activities because you overanalyze them. I think that's an overanalysis in itself -- you simply don't prefer those activities. That's not a fault.
 

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mindfulness exercise and meditation helps, i've read
 

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wants to analyze, and break down, and criticize just about anything it comes across, in a highly detached and abstract matter.

This is where problems arise for me often.

The inner pendulum swings at extremes. I cannot seem to find a balance. It is either complete detachment and analyses, from even, or especially perhaps, the things that cause high impact on my life, or an utter drenched sousing in attachment to it all with no desire to analyse it for the sake of feeling it instead.

I need to find a balance, or at least a way to make the pendulum continue its detachment swing full force but only decline halfway into attachment when it is time to feel and experience. Some fucked up physics I'm going to have to work out for that one maybe, at least if I decide I like the pendulum analogy and want to keep it. :confused: :evil:

Who says none of this is fun though! Maybe it is. Hmmm. There is a consideration.
 

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This is where problems arise for me often.

The inner pendulum swings at extremes. I cannot seem to find a balance. It is either complete detachment and analyses, from even, or especially perhaps, the things that cause high impact on my life, or an utter drenched sousing in attachment to it all with no desire to analyse it for the sake of feeling it instead.

I need to find a balance, or at least a way to make the pendulum continue its detachment swing full force but only decline halfway into attachment when it is time to feel and experience. Some fucked up physics I'm going to have to work out for that one maybe, at least if I decide I like the pendulum analogy and want to keep it. :confused: :evil:

Who says none of this is fun though! Maybe it is. Hmmm. There is a consideration.

I have a similar problem, but can you just tilt the pendulum? I'm imagining a wire frame holding the pendulum up, then you tilt the frame, the pull is still down, but now the swing relative to the frame is more towards the detachment side. I have no idea what I'm talking about by the way.
 

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You could try developing your Ne? Ne in tandem with Ti can lead to a good sense of humour (Or terrible sense of humour :P). I would advise watching how ENTP's succeed socially, and try applying their techniques (as they are Ne-Ti, compared to Ti-Ne, and hence their strategies would both make sense to you, and have a good chance of working).
 

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I have a similar problem, but can you just tilt the pendulum? I'm imagining a wire frame holding the pendulum up, then you tilt the frame, the pull is still down, but now the swing relative to the frame is more towards the detachment side. I have no idea what I'm talking about by the way.

That may work, but I am thinking the pendulum would just swing at a greater angle towards detachment, as its swing will still be the same width.

I think we are going to need some magnets or something.
 

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Everything's a fuckin' challenge. Small-talk doubly so.
 

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INTPs tend to be super serious compared to most types because Ti/Ne is too damn focused on the big matters.

Isn't this what makes INTP's be more aloof than serious? I don't think there is anyone in the world who would describe me as serious, and the same goes for the only other INTP I know.
 

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Isn't this what makes INTP's be more aloof than serious? I don't think there is anyone in the world who would describe me as serious, and the same goes for the only other INTP I know.
Exactly. It's not that we ARE serious, it's that we LOOK serious.

I feel like the only thing that would keep you from letting loose is not having anybody around that you're comfortable with. Assuming you do, just turn on your E functions and have some fun. It should come naturally.
 

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I never considered the stuff that I ponder upon as big matters. It's just that whenever I asked to do something I ask myself do I want to do this? Then its a chain reaction and I do a shit job because I ain't focusing.
 

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Just dance randomly, trust me people will never find you serious again.
 

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I have finally come to accept and even like the way I am, after 30 + years of trying these silly games. If people don't like the way I am, stuff them.
 

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Exactly. It's not that we ARE serious, it's that we LOOK serious.


So true! I do have a very neutral face when ruminating on something but would quickly smile back if you smiled at me.
 
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