Hello people....Ideas and answers? Please. :3

[Stellar]

Hello all.... Not to long ago I posted a type me thread on here.. The conclusion? INTP.
Since I seem to go in circle with things I thought it could be helpful just as an experiment, to write a thread (In another forum) and answer the questionnaire that everyone seemed to think would be an accurate way to be able to type someone.
I didn't quite see much relevance, but I decided to try it just for the hell of it, to see how close or far it was from INTP.

For one I was curious to see if my current state of mind could change the way I was perceived. I didn't think it would create the reaction that I got. From what I wrote on the questionnaire, people got that I was an ISFP, or ISTJ. Half of the other people that answered said INTP/INTJ/INFJ...but that was the main answer of two of the people that answered that got pissed and played a game of tag team when I said I didn't really agree, and if they had any other suggestions. I was quite baffled as to why, if I didn't agree with them, they cared so much about it, and seemed persistent in the idea that i'm an ISFP because I'm being hard headed about not being an ISFP, and that shows how moralistic I am, Fi, etc. etc.. shit. They actually began to argue with me (Not how I took it, they stated they were arguing and that they love it.) Point being, I went in just asking for opinions and alternate opinions, and I got an argument, and them trying to justify that i'm shallow, fake, etc. Irrelevant and stupid, but just trying to give more detail. Anyone,

One main reason they believed me to be this type... Because when asked what I would do if I could do anything for one day I answered in the realm of traveling and staying in a nice place... not important. They didn't seem to dare dream about the reason why I would want to leave. They associated this with the fact that "S" types like comfort, the end. I want to leave because I want, or need, to get away from crap. Things aren't that awesome so it's logical for me, in my head, to do the one thing I've been wanting to do if I had the opportunity even for one day, which would be to leave. What do they want me to say, that i'd sit there and contemplate string in my room because materialistic things don't matter...? I guess "N's" enjoy sleeping in dumpsters and smelling the sweet aroma of delicious intoxicating feces. Or that I'd become invisible and mess with people, etc. No. I wanted to leave, and that's why I said what I said.. maybe this does make me an "S" who knows. Point is, are small comments like this that relevant in picking someones type according to MBTI theory? Because if so i'm not sure I find much relevance in it for another reasons that I won't explain because I already over explain crap already and I don't want to make this longer than it already is.

Anywho, the subjectivity of the entire test baffles me, either that or the stupidity of some. I'm aware they could be correct. I don't really care what type I end up being, (they stated I wanted to be an "N" to be unique. -_- about the stupidest thing they could have said. (they were INFP's btw.) Completely mis construing my words. I like to understand concepts completely, and the fact that people keep providing me information that seems contradicting to what I read on my own, keeps messing with my already not okay mind at the moment. Contradicting and that their reaction to the entire thing in general shows be that the entire thing is based on subjective shit. I thought it was based more on our motivations behind thing, or what I agree with.

I think I am in a loop btw, whatever that may be. (For your own brains.)

So my point in this entire mess of a post.

1.How would I exactly make sure I'm an N over an S... I'm wasn't really questioning it, but I am curious now to what you all think is a good indicator.

2.Have you ever been in a loop? If you've ever been in a loop, how do you guys, whatever type you are, describe what you thought/ felt like at the time. If you managed to get out of it, how do you think you did so?

3.Do you NT types have "morals"?

For my own brain.
4. Difficult to explain but i'll attempt. Has anyone here ever felt like they were just a brain... Like you're just this being living in your head controlling the every move of the "body" of flesh you've been given. So out of touch with reality to the point that you only feel as though you are your thoughts? Sometimes it could also seems as though you are watching yourself live, but it isn't really.... you. And you think about how "you're" making this body you've been given move. It feels like you're trapped in your mind and that you're viewing the world from the little windows that are your eye balls.

Did this make any sense. This entire thing was more like a rant, due to my little time of being able to write this at the moment, but I hope something in this entire post makes sense.

Thanks you guys.

 

[DetachedRetina]

Yeah sometimes I feel like I'm a little man inside my head controlling my body with a series of levers and such, looking out the eyeball windows. But there's a littler guy controlling the little guy... I tend to get stuck in loops too if that's what you meant.

Yesterday I got stuck in a loop. My Dad had a conversation with me where he told me it must have been odd growing up in a house with a bathroom that has two mirrors facing each other so that you can see infinite copies of yourself in reflections. I just kept thinking about him imagining what it would be like to be me as a kid looking at the meta mirrors. I'll have a kid someday and live in a house with mirrors that face each other and I'll imagine what he's thinking in his/her little kid brain about the meta mirrors, and hopefully one day s/he'll have kids and do the same.

Is that what you meant by loops or did you mean like Ti/Si loop and Ni/Fi loop type thing?

But I definitely also have gotten that dissociated from my body feeling before, but usually only when I'm really stressed out or anxious

But basing somebody's entire personality on details like answering one question by saying you want to travel is dumb. Maybe if somebody amassed enough details about you they could guess your type but that's a very 'S' way to learn about someone no?

But you could well be a very deep S type. Who knows? Probably you know best.

What an annoying paradox to say that if you protest to being typed as having Fi then you only protest because it's your Fi kicking in! Ha! What a witch hunt!

The simple fact is that being 'N' is just soooo much cooler, and not just anybody can join our elite club.

Sounds like you were dealing with a bunch of idiots.

But you talk about living in a dumpster like it's a bad thing while your location says 'poop.' I would rather live in a dumpster than in poop.

 

[MissQuote]

One time I was reading one of the volumes of my encyclopedias, when I was 16 or so, and I got the very distinct impression that my eyes were simply scanning devices and my brain a processing machine and satellite sorting and sending the information gathered elsewhere, up, somewhere aside the physical situation that was/is me.

 

[Stellar]

Yeah sometimes I feel like I'm a little man inside my head controlling my body with a series of levers and such, looking out the eyeball windows. But there's a littler guy controlling the little guy... I tend to get stuck in loops too if that's what you meant.

Yesterday I got stuck in a loop. My Dad had a conversation with me where he told me it must have been odd growing up in a house with a bathroom that has two mirrors facing each other so that you can see infinite copies of yourself in reflections. I just kept thinking about him imagining what it would be like to be me as a kid looking at the meta mirrors. I'll have a kid someday and live in a house with mirrors that face each other and I'll imagine what he's thinking in his/her little kid brain about the meta mirrors, and hopefully one day s/he'll have kids and do the same.

Is that what you meant by loops or did you mean like Ti/Si loop and Ni/Fi loop type thing?

But I definitely also have gotten that dissociated from my body feeling before, but usually only when I'm really stressed out or anxious

But basing somebody's entire personality on details like answering one question by saying you want to travel is dumb. Maybe if somebody amassed enough details about you they could guess your type but that's a very 'S' way to learn about someone no?

But you could well be a very deep S type. Who knows? Probably you know best.

What an annoying paradox to say that if you protest to being typed as having Fi then you only protest because it's your Fi kicking in! Ha! What a witch hunt!

The simple fact is that being 'N' is just soooo much cooler, and not just anybody can join our elite club.

Sounds like you were dealing with a bunch of idiots.

But you talk about living in a dumpster like it's a bad thing while your location says 'poop.' I would rather live in a dumpster than in poop.

I'm not alone? Ah that's interesting to hear.... I always feel like that.. controlling my big meaty body.

Lol no not quite I mean... not the mirror thing, though something similar to that has happened to me, due to the infinite amount of reflections of a reflection. It used to be so interesting to look at as a kid. Contemplating why and how far it went, and if it went on forever how is that....etc.. Yeah any who I meant the function loops. I'm not sure which one I'm in though which is what I'm trying to figure out.

And i'm glad to know I'm not alone. I don't think that mind in my body thing happens when stressed though, it just happens all the time ever since I was a child. I often wondered if I was human or not. Like I was sent from another world.. on a mission for something I have yet to have discovered. Still I knew maybe this wasn't the case, but still I wondered. I sure felt like that's what was happening.

Lol it was annoying.. It's like the only option I had was to agree with them, or get my head ripped off. The were idiots alright. I either agree and say that they're right or the warp my word to make me sound like whatever they "want" me to be. I still don't understand why they care. When I asked them how they knew their types, their reasons were shitty. Like, "well i've always tested as it, and i'm bad at sports..... uncoordinated....etc."
I agreed with every point they had as to what made them an N, yet they still said they were "N"s and I was an S. Thing they don't understand is I don't see a problem with being , let's say an ISFP. Sounds awesome. I'd get to experience life....as compared to now. And I'd feel shit, and care about stuff.

Lol technically living in a dumpster may not be that bad, but, I prefer my bed over the dumpster situation. Just personal preference. Funny lol.

I personally am quite sure on the N part though I always leave room for new information to cross my path and therefore I could change my answer. Though with the being a deep "S" part as a possibility..I'd be a shitty one. I can't live in the moment or experience anything in the moment. I'm out of it about 98% of the time so much that it's a problem, I never worry about the present day, or problems or anything that is happening currently. I can't help it. I'm constantly focused on the future and what will happen and what I can do, and every possibility of what that could be. Problem is that technically right now I'm in my pasts future, and I'm not experiencing anything. So.. I kinda wish I was an "S" in ways. I'm sure they experience life. I can't even appreciate the taste of food. I like the idea of my favorite dish but when I'm eating it I can't... put myself in that moment to enjoy it. Can't shut my brain off from constantly contemplating theories and shit. Not one moment in my entire mine is there silence in my head. Sucks eggs sometimes....depending.. becoming more well rounded would be awesome. This "elite" club has some draw backs. :slash new: though I'm sure both do.
Not sure if that made sense.

Poop. Didn't recall my location, I should change that to something more accurate.. though..
it is fairly accurate. :3

 

[Stellar]

One time I was reading one of the volumes of my encyclopedias, when I was 16 or so, and I got the very distinct impression that my eyes were simply scanning devices and my brain a processing machine and satellite sorting and sending the information gathered elsewhere, up, somewhere aside the physical situation that was/is me.

Ah yes. I've done almost exactly this. Not sure why I can't feel as though I am.... my physical body. I'm sure people can... no one i've ever met can understand what mean. I'll think about whats going on as my eyes are picking up on light being bounced of of an object/book, etc, and think about how it's processing it. The speed and rate that it may take.. testing it out sometimes. (Trying.) As a child or teenager.... more elaborate as I got older.

I also quite dehumanize most things. I can't enjoy a simple video game, because I over think that I'm playing with lights someone created on a screen that only have a certain finite amount of movements. I over think tv shows, and constantly think about the acting and that it's fake. Not sure what this is due to. This hasn't happened my entire life, i'm assuming it some type of psychological issue as I don't think this pertains to types in general.. though It would be interesting. My one other INTP friend said this happened to him though so idk. I do enjoy video games though, but it just depends. Same thing is done toward emotions. Emotions are something this body I live in is creating, and I can stop it. I don't think this is to healthy.

 

[MissQuote]

I'll think about whats going on as my eyes are picking up on light being bounced of of an object/book, etc, and think about how it's processing it. The speed and rate that it may take.. testing it out sometimes.

Thinking about thinking about thinking while you think.

Yeah. things get tricky and a little difficult and unreal when one gets caught in that loop.

 

[pernoctator]

The mind and body thing isn't something I dwell on, but I remember one frankly terrifying experience of feeling highly "aware" that my body isn't me and that it's small. It was like claustrophobia, but not really.

I often get into a loop of wondering if anyone else is thinking about something I'm thinking about, then wondering if they are wondering the same, (...) then I end up having this feeling that I've connected with a community of people who are all sharing thoughts about each other (who may or may not exist).

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

*Looks up threads started by Stellar*
*Sees a lot of posts by himself in 'type me' thread*
*Re-reads everything to assess whether he's the asshole in question*
*Realizes he's not. At least he doesn't think so*

1. You're an N. You're writing style (which provides insight into your thought processes) reeks of Ne . (Again, I'm sticking with a female INTP or INFP).

2. Find something else that holds your attention or do something random. Try microwaving a lightbulb (keep things well ventilated and have a fire extinguisher on hand).

3. Yes, but for me they're all based on logic and center around "what's best for both me and society?" Sort of a logic meets emotion thing that I know not everyone here shares.

4. I've probably experienced it, I'm just not picking up what you're putting down. (Although I may not be able to pick it up because I'm in the middle of experiencing it )

My perspective is basically that the MBTI is imperfect and that there are other variables at play that make it less likely for someone to fall into a specific category but more likely to fall along a spectrum instead, based on environmental variables, stages of development for a given type, biology (dare I mention hormones without sounding sexist?), etc.

 

[Stellar]

*Looks up threads started by Stellar*
*Sees a lot of posts by himself in 'type me' thread*
*Re-reads everything to assess whether he's the asshole in question*
*Realizes he's not. At least he doesn't think so*

1. You're an N. You're writing style (which provides insight into your thought processes) reeks of Ne . (Again, I'm sticking with a female INTP or INFP).

2. Find something else that holds your attention or do something random. Try microwaving a lightbulb (keep things well ventilated and have a fire extinguisher on hand).

3. Yes, but for me they're all based on logic and center around "what's best for both me and society?" Sort of a logic meets emotion thing that I know not everyone here shares.

4. I've probably experienced it, I'm just not picking up what you're putting down. (Although I may not be able to pick it up because I'm in the middle of experiencing it )

My perspective is basically that the MBTI is imperfect and that there are other variables at play that make it less likely for someone to fall into a specific category but more likely to fall along a spectrum instead, based on environmental variables, stages of development for a given type, biology (dare I mention hormones without sounding sexist?), etc.

Lol, oh no not you. It has to be something kind of out there for me to mention it anyway. Everyone on here i've spoken to so far has been cool.

Anywho, hmm well. I did think about INFP when I was considering INFJ/INFP.... Problem with that is the I agree to my own knowledge, with Ti. It's a pretty big part of how I work. So INFPs not having Ti, and the fact that they're so stereotypically all for right and wrong getting offended if someone steps on their morals, sticking up for what they "believe" They know their beliefs and thoughts on things, and what they like and don't like, and being in tune with their emotions, etc.

None of those things fit me in the slightest, though I also wish it kind of did.... in ways. I do have a friend though that is wondering if he's an INFP. He's stuck between INFJ/INFP.. And i'm more confused on the "F" right and wrong, moral thing, strong emotions, etc. Is there anything you think would be a key to distinguishing through these types.. Whatever your opinions may be would be awesome to hear.

I would have tried the light bulb thing as a child..... I did things like that often. Experiments were my thing....and magic tricks. :3

I have no morals I can make of....at all. I don't really understand why. I don't have a stance on right and wrong issues, or have my own "morals" nothing is right and wrong, nor do I care if you think it's wrong or right. I usually all sides of the issue at hand, let's say abortion, and give reasons why it could be good and bad. Asking me what I feel will result in nothing if asking me to take a stance. I also have nothing I personally find "wrong or right." This is why I was so confused when considering "NF" types. Both seems to have stances and emotional view on things, where I do not. Still, that didn't keep me from seeking a glimmer of hope I could be an "F", and I continued to check and see what correlated with what. At some point, I deterred from "NF" types, to "NT" which is why I find myself here. Maybe I was in denial, who knows. First time I ever took the test, I got ENTP, then INTP. I shrugged them off at the time.

Lol, maybe you are experiencing it, like I said it is hard to explain. It feels like your body is sort of like this costume you're stuck in.. Kind of like the feeling you get when you put on I mask I guess. Looking through it, you see everything, but no one can see you. Thats the initial feeling but theres more too it.

I agree. There are so many variables that I find it very difficult to be able to work it all out. Hormones I'm sure play a part in it all.... (not sexist) lol. Sorry for my lack of elaboration on this last part or in general, i'm about to go out, and wanted to answer back. :P But I agree with almost everything you said in your last point. I'll take the entire thing for what it is. Figuring it out is still something I kind of am wanting to do, just for the sake of it.

Thank you.

 

[Stellar]

Thinking about thinking about thinking while you think.

Yeah. things get tricky and a little difficult and unreal when one gets caught in that loop.

Yes indeed they do.

 

[Stellar]

The mind and body thing isn't something I dwell on, but I remember one frankly terrifying experience of feeling highly "aware" that my body isn't me and that it's small. It was like claustrophobia, but not really.

I often get into a loop of wondering if anyone else is thinking about something I'm thinking about, then wondering if they are wondering the same, (...) then I end up having this feeling that I've connected with a community of people who are all sharing thoughts about each other (who may or may not exist).

This is very interesting. I feel that experience of feeling my body isn't me, my entire life almost I guess. I'm assuming there's something off about me? I don't think I'm living to full potential in the slightest. Maybe it has something to do with being better rounded? I have no idea. I hope that feeling never bestows you again (since it was terrifying)
It sort of does feel like what you described in a way, yes. That's really interesting though, I wonder what in you at that time, triggered you to feel that way... since it's more uncommon for you.
I've thought of something like this too if I'm understanding correctly. I wonder if people are thinking what I'm thinking about, and wondering if they're thinking about someone thinking about what they're thinking about.. and if they're thinking about someone thinking about them thinking something they could be thinking about..etc. something like this? Lol. Quite a conundrum.

 

[Da Blob]

I was going to comment on the issues on this thread, but instead of possibly derailing it, I started a new thread in response


http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?p=293603#post293603

 

[Cognisant]

Yeah sometimes I feel like I'm a little man inside my head controlling my body with a series of levers and such, looking out the eyeball windows. But there's a littler guy controlling the little guy... I tend to get stuck in loops too if that's what you meant.

Ironically self consciousness is a loop, like an amplifier, microphone and speaker, creating that horribly shrill noise.

Microphone = Senses
Amplifier = Cognitive processes of recognition and abstraction (not amplification)
Speaker = Bodily action

For example when you're first learning to speak you listen to the sounds you make, creating an intuitive map of cause and effect, so that now after years if not decades of experience you can hear a sound in your environment and almost instantly imitate it (assuming it's within your vocal range) because you recognize how that sound maps to your vocal output, it's your vocal self consciousness.

Self consciousness of thought is the same looping process of learning but internalized, your brain mechanistically organises data, so when it gets data on itself that data gets organised into the concept of self, and as the brain mechanistically acts upon it's accumulated data in a biased way (pursuing pleasure, avoiding pain) the concept of self makes that biased action into self biased action.

This is a noticeable difference between humans a other animals, we will intentionally harm ourselves or withhold pleasure from ourselves (unnatural actions, in opposition to what is our base nature) in the pursuit later pleasures and the avoidance of later repercussions; our shrewdness goes beyond mere cunning, we're capable of being outright machiavellian, using our concept of self and other to manipulate the world around us to our advantage.

 

[Stellar]

Ironically self consciousness is a loop, like an amplifier, microphone and speaker, creating that horribly shrill noise.

Microphone = Senses
Amplifier = Cognitive processes of recognition and abstraction (not amplification)
Speaker = Bodily action

For example when you're first learning to speak you listen to the sounds you make, creating an intuitive map of cause and effect, so that now after years if not decades of experience you can hear a sound in your environment and almost instantly imitate it (assuming it's within your vocal range) because you recognize how that sound maps to your vocal output, it's your vocal self consciousness.

Self consciousness of thought is the same looping process of learning but internalized, your brain mechanistically organises data, so when it gets data on itself that data gets organised into the concept of self, and as the brain mechanistically acts upon it's accumulated data in a biased way (pursuing pleasure, avoiding pain) the concept of self makes that biased action into self biased action.

This is a noticeable difference between humans a other animals, we will intentionally harm ourselves or withhold pleasure from ourselves (unnatural actions, in opposition to what is our base nature) in the pursuit later pleasures and the avoidance of later repercussions; our shrewdness goes beyond mere cunning, we're capable of being outright machiavellian, using our concept of self and other to manipulate the world around us to our advantage.

Very interesting! I should invest in a better quality microphone and speaker.
Everything you said made sense.

Though one of the loops I began to speak about at the beginning was about getting stuck in a loop of though, the initial one I mentioned was more about the loops people refer to when people are somewhat off from their "norm". In MBTI

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For some reason in the past year and a half i've been convincing myself (due to people around me) that I felt certain things, or "cared" about certain things. As of lately after reading another type me thread I made on another forum a while ago, I realized how off everything I wrote was from what I actually think in my head. I would write things people around me "wanted" me to be like or persisted I was like because I was around them when writing the type me forum, or they'd re read my thread to make sure it sounded accurate and suggest things they thought i'd missed.....either this or i'd include things based on the way I acted around them or the impression I wanted them to get, in a way. (To be more appealing to a certain person.)

Anywho, in the past 2 years, my mind seems much for scattered than normal, any contradiction seems to throws my head into a some sort of spin....but not like I normally noticed contradictions immediately when I was younger.. It's quite abnormal. A few months ago I couldn't even describe what or how I thought in the slightest.....I'd have given you the same story i'd basically almost started believing myself i mentioned above. Another reason these misconceptions were created was because when I first got into MBTI, I got into it with a friend that introduced me to it, more thoroughly, and I became majorly depressed a quarter of the way into us getting deep into MBTI.

I think it messed me up in ways. Trying to decipher how I think, when my mind is all over the place wasn't the greatest idea. After trying to think about functions, understand them and pick through them so that I could come to some conclusion on my typing, just because, my friend would give opinions, and tell me how I actually "was". I wondered if he was onto something..... and then made statements I thought were possible about how I thought, but with no assurance.

Whole point, this has led me to a big abnormal, loopy, messed up head. My thoughts are fucked up. If I wrote how I actually think. I'd sound mean.
Point being, i'm sure i'm in some "loop" in mbti standards.
Not sure how to get out of it... I've gotten out of depression it seems (aware you don't just fall out of it, it's taken a good amount of time.) But my mind still seems to have managed to feel like a foggy confused mess. I know how I think, but when it comes to verbalizing things, I can't.
At least it's more than I had 6 months ago when sometimes I wasn't even sure on what I actually thought vs. what ideas I'd made/people had gotten about myself.

People don't influence me greatly like this ramble may make it seem (don't want another misconception out there.) but the reason it happened I think was because of bad timing, and because since I was so out of it, having to choose between let's say being "Caring about social dynamic" and "Feelings within" got more difficult. Well i'm depressed so i'm focusing on my feelings technically, I answered my friend, but..... I guess I can care about socially dynamic sometimes? "How am I supposed to know what I do more that the other, I can find way in which I do all of these things" He then proceeds to tell me something alone the lines of, "Well you do this a lot, and this means this, idk I do think you care about your internal feels more" (let's say for an example.)
This would result in me contemplating the idea, and getting confused....... which led to other confusions, thoughts, loops, etc.
I'm confused at this very moment now from writing this all. :3 thinking back on it isn't the greatest for my brain.

For example even though everyone here has labeled me as an "I" I still wouldn't want to be to quick to say that. I've been considering ENTP. Can't figure out if I use Ne first or not quite just yet. May not be the case but still I wouldn't want to rule anything out quite just yet. (The first time I took the mbti test I got INTP, and then ENTP, consistently, before I knew much about the functions). Only during my depression is when my results changed to INFJ. Honestly enough, I think I, in ways wished I was an "NF" type. NT has taken my a long time to even begin to consider once I started reading on the types. Only as of recently have I began considering being a T in general. I don't really understand why I considered "NF" types at all actually. I guess I felt like I had to choose between those 4 types.... when speaking to others, or writing about myself with others.

Sorry I tend to over explain and that mixed with confusion results in a mess of a post.

My schooling sure did suffer during this entire time.

 

[Stellar]

I was going to comment on the issues on this thread, but instead of possibly derailing it, I started a new thread in response


http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?p=293603#post293603

Oh it would have been quite alright.
But alrighty, will take a read.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

You are the type that you identify with, it's got nothing to do with what others think you are.

 

[pernoctator]

He then proceeds to tell me something alone the lines of, "Well you do this a lot, and this means this"

Is he really in a better position than you to know what this means?

 

[Stellar]

You are the type that you identify with, it's got nothing to do with what others think you are.

Lol. Yes I'm aware of this. The issue then was that mind was already a mess so I didn't know what I identified with anymore. Alot of factors came into play during that and still this time. He'd tell me that I should look at how I acted when I was a child because it shows how I "truly" am, and that who I thought I was, probably wasn't who I actually was because I was bullied, hurt, etc. it made sense at the time, but now I've come to realize that though there is truth in that, that there were differences about me because I was a child. My general train of thought was similar to what it is now. With my head all foggy it was oddly something that was fairly difficult to derive at. What my head felt like was mostly indescribable.... Pretty bad time. not my proudest moment, or something I'm to find of putting out there. *pats myself on back*.

Thank you. :3 you're right. I just wish at the time I knew what I identified with without being confused, or given warped perceptions or thoughts on mbti.

 

[Stellar]

Is he really in a better position than you to know what this means?

No not at all..I'd assume I'm the only one who'd be.. But at the time, we were close, and I figured he had better knowledge of mbti than me. Being as he told me to look at how I acted when I was a child, and his perception of me. Problem was I was so.. Not great that the perception he has of me is warped. He still thinks he knows best. He's an INFX.... We don't work well together, or see eye to eye in most things.



Sorry for how unstructured both posts are, I'm using my phone. :3 and I'm actually with him as I write this..