Have you had experience with psychedelics?

[ccmbeast]

Not personally, but I've wanted to try it out for years. I just need to find a few friends that'll look after me and a dealer (Y)

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

The only drugs I have experience with are caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and marijuana. . .

. . . I am looking for a job, and I'm not sure which ones stay in your system long enough to be detected as well as which ones are actually tested for by employers. . .

The more important concern is that I have epilepsy and am on two different anticonvulsants. Does anyone know if the psychadelics/hallucinogens can trigger seizures? If not, would they interfere with the anticonvulsant medications that I'm on? My seizures can be quite terrifying, and I certainly don't want a trip to resemble a seizure in any way, or worse, actually cause one. . .

. . . Also, another thing I was curious about is the difference between "psychadelics" and "hallucinogens." Are those two different words for the same thing?

Well I'm also unsure about which drugs are commonly tested for but I'd think most psychedelics are gone relatively quick, especially in comparison to weed which (iirc) hangs around longer than most drugs.

I have no knowledge of what effect epilepsy/epilepsy medication may have on a trip and my gut instinct says that'd probably be a bad combination. However, I'm hardly an expert and if someone else sees this and provides evidence that it is harmless then I'd gladly defer to them.

And I don't think there's much of a difference between psychedelic and hallucinogen. If there is any, I'd think that hallucinogens are drugs that focus more on the visuals of a trip whereas psychedelics may be more about the ideas and such. But there probably isn't much of a difference and can probably be used interchangeably.

 

[joal0503]

kay little randoms here...im in the middle of a vacation visiting my parents out in a different state...SO...I most definitely have stopped smoking cannabis for about a week now...I chuckle when i look at "cannabis withdrawal" articles...but I definitely noticed again...VIVID DREAMS - SWEATING ... like craaaazy vivid dreams. Its actually quite fun...the only negative thing right now (and I apologize for it) is that my writing and creative expression seems to be absolutely in the toilet right now...hahahahahahahaha

im fairly certain that you were smoking it wrong. the first time i did salvia, i smoked it like i would smoke weed. the result? i felt a heaviness and delayed time perception, but not much more. but when i tried it again, i really started to understand why it is regarded as an intense drug. and even that second time i tried it, i don't think i was smoking it optimally. according to what i've read online, the best way to smoke it through a bong, using a torch lighter and keeping it lit while inhaling. hold that hit for as long as you can (30 seconds is the usual recommendation). and try to smoke your whole dosage within 2 minutes or so. of course, these are merely guidelines but if you read about the way salvia works, you'll understand why there's all these measures are taken.

read about people's trips online. maybe you'll feel like you were doing it wrong like i did when i read them

use a butane lighter for higher temperature than a normal bic lighter. a butane will burn hotter, which is what you need to really get the reaction at optimal levels...a water pipe isnt necessary, but its going to make it a LOT easier for a user to hit/hold in hit...THIS IS KEY. HOLD IT IN AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

and definitely agree...extracts can actually be TOO strong. Be weary of the lame ass marketing gig...these far too potent extracts in the hands of inexperienced youths is exactly the reason why it was made illegal.

Hey guys...I know I'm butting in pretty late in the conversation, but after reading this thread over the course of three days at work, I'm finally ready to ask some questions, as I have no experience with psychadelics. The only drugs I have experience with are caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and marijuana. I am definitely interested in trying some of the hallucinogens, two things hold me back: fear and lack of access.

As for the fear part, there are a couple of very rational reasons. First, I am looking for a job, and I'm not sure which ones stay in your system long enough to be detected as well as which ones are actually tested for by employers.

FIRST off...pre employment drug screens...to me, they arent testing for drug habits, irresponsibility, effectiveness at work, competence, etc....its a test for STUPIDITY.

Be smart, if you are looking for a job, ABSTAIN. If you cant abstain, find a way around it ala synthetic urine ...however keep in mind, depending on the type of drug test, certain drugs can be detected much longer than a simple urine screen. Depending on the method (hair analysis, blood test, urine screen) drugs have certain detection periods, you also have to take into account your own body and chemical makeup...to sum it up detection periods DO vary.

heres a nice little breakdown of some common drugs, and approxiamate detection periods:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_test#Detection_periods

Psilocybin, I dont believe simple drug screens even test for it, but I believe urine is around 1-3 days...again you are going to want to make sure what you are being tested for! i cant stress that enough...responsibility is to take the time and ENSURE you dont let these things affect your careers or personal lives with an avoidable positive on a drug screen.

The more important concern is that I have epilepsy and am on two different anticonvulsants. Does anyone know if the psychadelics/hallucinogens can trigger seizures? If not, would they interfere with the anticonvulsant medications that I'm on? My seizures can be quite terrifying, and I certainly don't want a trip to resemble a seizure in any way, or worse, actually cause one.

I am NOT aware of this......but most definitely good to see that you want to be AWARE of interactions between existing conditions of prescriptions you currently take. If you dont mind sharing the type of anticonvulsants, I could do a little research here if I get the time.

The second thing that prevents me from trying any of these (or any illegal drugs, for that matter) is lack of access. Legal drugs like alcohol, caffiene, and nicotine are easy to get access, so I just buy them at the gas station or whatever. The illegal ones, including weed, are almost impossible to find, esepcially being an extremely introverted INTP. I know that in order to find a drug dealer, you just have to "know people." I only have one friend who does any illegal drugs (weed, to be more specific, and he doesn't even smoke it that much). I've asked him a couple of times to let me know if he has any weed, but he hardly ever does, and I don't think his dealer sells anything but weed. It's hard enough for me to find weed. I wouldn't even know where to begin to find psychadelics. But maybe that's best if it would be dangerous for my epilepsy...

There are ways. I would say that you SHOULDNT simply just get whatever you can from some dealer or a loose connection. It helps to find friends and people you can trust. Afterall you REALLY want to BE 100% sure that you are getting what you asked for (it helps with feeling safe and calm as well). Some other methods exist, especially in the age of technology...but for the sake of keeping us out of trouble, ill just ask you to PM me for those details.

Also, another thing I was curious about is the difference between "psychadelics" and "hallucinogens." Are those two different words for the same thing?

different communities (anti drug vs drug vs science) use the terms sort of interchangeably...

the scientific view is that all 'psychedelics' are technically 'hallucinogens', thus psychedelics are a class of hallucinogens ...the term doesnt necessarily imply that you are actually hallucinating, its more along the lines of drugs that are distorting your perceived reality. It to me sounds like just an outdated or misunderstanding of the nature of 'hallucinating'.

psychedelic derived from the Greek words ψυχή (psyche, "mind") and δηλείν (delein, "to manifest"), hence "mind-manifesting", the implication being that psychedelics can access and develop unused potentials of the human mind.

my take... psychedelics colloquially refers to any sort of substance that produces a psychoactive effect. Hallucinogens are specifically a class of psychedelic drugs, that produce the actual hallucinations to some degree (DMT,Salvia,LSD,Psilocybin).

 

[Nebula]

I haven't but I did some research and 2c-p got me interested a lot. I definitely wanna try it someday. Ayahuasca seems worth considering too.