Gore Sites...

[preilemus]

for those not familiar, a gore site is a site that depicts violence, carnage, and other indecencies all uncencored for viewing pleasure.

I'm tempted to give a link, but Im not sure whether or not it would be allowed.

anyways, whats your opinion on them? do you like them? hate them? give reasons!

 

[Fedayeen]

isn't gore.com a gore site? XD

 

[XIII]

for those not familiar, a gore site is a site that depicts violence, carnage, and other indecencies all uncencored for viewing pleasure.

I'm tempted to give a link, but Im not sure whether or not it would be allowed.

anyways, whats your opinion on them? do you like them? hate them? give reasons!

I found them useful when emulating ''The Devil'' (Pan, not Satan) for my personality emulation. One trait of the personality is ''all equally exalts me'', and these sites were helpful for putting that to the test and strengthening it.

 

[Legionnaire]

I personally hate them. In real life I can't stand to look at my own blood or someone elses even for short periods. If I do I start to black out and most likely barf. I also hate screamers and shock sites alike. My friend tried to get me to watch 2 girls 1 cup and I looked it up on wiki and read bout it. After what I read, I never watched it and told my friend to smeg off. As for screamers the only one I know of is called ghost car and can be found on youtube, its the one that seems to start off as a car commercial. I saw another one before that had a bloody doll scream at ya, where you had to look at 2 pictures closely and try to find the difference between them, unfortunately I had my headphones on and the volume cranked all the way up.

 

[jarred]

As far as gore sites go, I'm a bit indifferent to the images themselves, but I find the idea that people derive enjoyment from them rather repulsive.

 

[Carnap]

Yeah, I'm really disappointed that this is even being discussed here.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

What The Hell?! is this....is this Legal?

 

[Carnap]

Legal or not, do you not have anything better to do with your time?

 

[preilemus]

I think you're making too many assumptions, Carnap. The fact that I brought it up doesnt insinuate that I myself, or anyone else here is a frequent user on those type of sites.

I happened to discover these sites a few weeks back, and was merely curious as to how other people felt about them.

stating you find them repulsive is okay, and I appreciate your opinion, but coming in here and berating any potential users isnt the appropriate thing to do, in my opinion.

 

[Carnap]

Ok, I find it repulsive, damaging to the psyche, a waste of time, disgusting, pointless, a disaster for an already violent culture (don't even feel safe when I come home to the US to visit, more and more violence every time I come home).


There we go ! All written in the third person passive voice. If you wanna play semantics, I can say the exact same thing in any tense/voice/etc. you want, but it will always mean the same thing.

 

[XIII]

Ok, I find it repulsive, damaging to the psyche, a waste of time, disgusting, pointless, a disaster for an already violent culture (don't even feel safe when I come home to the US to visit, more and more violence every time I come home).


There we go ! All written in the third person passive voice. If you wanna play semantics, I can say the exact same thing in any tense/voice/etc. you want, but it will always mean the same thing.

Your conception of identity and value is-- limited. You assume that what you feel to be negative or horrifying necessarily results in the perpetuation of more negativity or horror, whereas it may have a different, or even reverse, effect on some viewers. Viewing shocking and disgusting material can also be a way to strengthen the personality and train emotional-physiological reactions, if the material is used in the right way. Your perspective is limited in that you judge these sites in terms of immediate moral or emotional meaning, instead of in terms of the role which they may play in the long run as one aspect of a greater structure. Good paintings usually have dark strokes as well as light ones.

Am I arguing that these sites will serve a purpose that ultimately serves my goals/aesthetic or yours? No. I'm simply pointing out that you identify disgusting or violent images with disgusting or violent effects, without consideration for the effects that they may have on the greater system (i.e. they could, or could not, be a way to express psychopathic tendencies that doesn't involve committing more violence).

 

[Carnap]

I think explicite images desensitize people. If you take the example of pornography for one, it has been shown that men who extensively use pornography can hardly get erections when having sex with 'real' women, or if they do, they have problems ejaculating, etc.

Also, men who use pornography have sexual images instilled in their heads. If they see a woman in the street, the biological impulse that sends images to the subconcious will be much more graphic than if they did not use pornography.

Sex with someone who uses a lot of porn is very mechanical and robotic.


Images are powerful. Just think of how images are used to manipulate people with advertising.



As for violence, I'm not sure what to say, but I highly doubt it has the positive effects you describe (just an assumption based on some of your other out there posts)

 

[XIII]

I think explicite images desensitize people. If you take the example of pornography for one, it has been shown that men who extensively use pornography can hardly get erections when having sex with 'real' women, or if they do, they have problems ejaculating, etc.

Also, men who use pornography have sexual images instilled in their heads. If they see a woman in the street, the biological impulse that sends images to the subconcious will be much more graphic than if they did not use pornography.

Sex with someone who uses a lot of porn is very mechanical and robotic.


Images are powerful. Just think of how images are used to manipulate people with advertising.



As for violence, I'm not sure what to say, but I highly doubt it has the positive effects you describe (just an assumption based on some of your other out there posts)

Once again, hyperlinear yet very shortsighted. You consider this matter (and, presumably, most) in terms of immediate and tangible consequences, instead of in terms of the potential way in which these causal chains and others may combine to form an overall greater structure, or how such ostensibly 'negative' causal chains may in fact be necessary for the maintenance of a generally 'positive' structure.

I don't understand the last paragraph of your post, so I won't answer it.

 

[Carnap]

yawn.

Yes, long term sexual dysfunction is so immediate.

The effects I described are not immediate nor tangible. I was describing how images fuel libidinal capitalism, cause sexual confusion, etc.


My last paragraph was stating that after reading some of your posts (ex pan sexuality), I think that any conversation between you and me is going to make both of us yawn and roll our eyes for our own reasons.

I'm bored of you, you're bored of me, good night.

 

[XIII]

yawn.

Yes, long term sexual dysfunction is so immediate.

Completely missing the point, yet assuming you get it.

Edit: post made before above post had been edited to include further comments.

 

[XIII]

Hi Carnap , I'm so sorry about what I said earlier. I actually don't know what came over me at all. I can't even look at those sites without crying and being upset for days. It hurts me how one human being could take pleasure in such pain in another... but I feel that its probbly because they've been hurt as well. In a way, all people spend time trying to deal with the very pain of being alive and so misunderstood and under-appreciated... and maybe sites like this are how some people try to do it. I think that most of the people who think that they enjoy these websites... are really trying to come to terms with their own pain.