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Four Temperaments Test
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Dapper Dan
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I'm guessing most of us will be Phlegmatic.
*cough*
Back in high school, one of my teachers had us take a Temperaments test. I was the most Phlegmatic person in the room.
*cough*
Back in high school, one of my teachers had us take a Temperaments test. I was the most Phlegmatic person in the room.
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Dominantly Melancholic/Phlegmatic.
I am inwardly Sanguine though.
I am inwardly Sanguine though.
Pretty much this. I took those many times back in the schooldays (we had a field psychiatrist, who I used to visit frequently).
Pyropyro
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Phlegmatic, hmm... I tested Mel-Phle before
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Your temperment is phlegmatic. The phlegmatic temperament is fundamentally relaxed and quiet, ranging from warmly attentive to lazily sluggish. Phlegmatics tend to be content with themselves and are kind. They are accepting and affectionate. They may be receptive and shy and often prefer stability to uncertainty and change. They are consistent, relaxed, calm, rational, curious, and observant, qualities that make them good administrators. They can also be passive-aggressive.
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melancholic The melancholic temperament is fundamentally introverted and thoughtful. Melancholic people often were perceived as very (or overly) pondering and considerate, getting rather worried when they could not be on time for events. Melancholics can be highly creative in activities such as poetry and art - and can become preoccupied with the tragedy and cruelty in the world. Often they are perfectionists. They are self-reliant and independent; one negative part of being a melancholic is that they can get so involved in what they are doing they forget to think of others.
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Fantastic! I grew up with this, and categorising people with it.
I've added some stuff I've learnt/noticed over the years.
I've added some stuff I've learnt/noticed over the years.
There are also different theories on combining the temperaments, which to me makes sense. Choleric and phleg are on opposite ends of the same axis, with melancholy-sanguine being the other.
There are correlations with jungian function theory, imo.
Choleric corresponds roughly with EJs, ie those with directive, external dynamics leads (Te or Fe). Sanguine is roughly those with high Fe (bubbliness), or high outer perception (Ne/Se). Melancholy - high on any of the inner functions, but there may be a tendency away from melancholy if you've got high Ti, since that tends to be detached and generally unflappable, ie phlegmatic. Except when a principle is violated, in which case they can become very mulish. Again, typical of phlegs.
Phlegs tend to be P types. Mel-phlegs or phleg-mels can be impossible to get moving. Choleric-mels or mel-cholerics usually go very deep and are very intense. Choleric-sanguines/sanguine-cholerics are intense outwardly. The last two types are very tiring for whoever's around them.
Brief descriptions of each temperament (dom):
I'm guessing a lot of people with Ne will feel like they're 'sanguine inside', even if they're dominated by Ti detachment or Fi pain. It's zany and humourous and happy.
Anyway, I'm guessing temperament informs type manifestation. So you might have an INTP that appears to have a lot of Fe push because he's choleric, and therefore someone who naturally has more aggression. But at the same time he *is* naturally adaptive, so he might appear oddly phleg and adaptable at the same time. (imo T, especially Ti, adds a little bit of phleg because of the personal detachment.) That pretty much describes me. (Choleric melancholy) Also Adymus, imo. If any of you remember his posts or videos you should get a good vibe for how cholerics look and sound.
Then you also have phleg INTPs, which are probably more natural. Like Auburn. He seems very warm and friendly, but I wouldn't really describe it as Fe push, or any kind of push actually. He stays well within his space. But if you trod on something and he doesn't like it, he can become very quietly stubborn. (At least, that's my impression.) There still isn't much push but he'll silently hold his ground. Phlegs can be very stubborn.
I'd say Ti and Fi appear phleg on the outside, but can have the strength of a choleric when challenged. Generally though, they're reactive and adaptive.
I've been wondering about functions and the brain recently. A hierarchy makes sense - a certain pattern of neural firing taking precedence over another - but I'm sure there are variations even within that, like how aggressive one is naturally, or how much force one puts into a Fe/Te push. Choleric/phleg helps explain that I think, and distinguishes between natural strength of will, and function order. (Being aggressive with Fe when you use it doesn't mean it's not taxing for you. It probably just means you're activating something else more, or releasing more of a hormone, than the phleg.)
Same goes for the sanguine-melancholy divide with Ne/Se.
The stereotype of ExFPs is the *quintessential* sanguine phleg. They're generally the nicest, easiest people to be around.
Interesting note - with couples, you almost never see a choleric paired with another choleric. It's very, very rare. Generally when you meet a couple you can easily pick out who's who. It's not *just* a matter of who wears the pants (because some phlegs can be very strong and defined) though that's a very good estimate. It's like that with good friends too, though less so. An underdeveloped choleric man with an underdeveloped phleg woman in a conservative/religious marriage is probably the most abusive, destructive combo you could have, with the choleric stamping the phleg into the ground, and the phleg too weak/ill-trained to defend herself, plus everything the choleric does is basically justified by their faith and prevailing misogyny only intensifies the validity of his natural push/aggression.
Having melancholy or sanguine as top can add strength/push/fire though, which can give the phleg a little more to work with.
Choleric sanguines (or sanguine cholerics) are probably the most hated people on this forum. They're loud, pushy, bossy, argumentative, rude, invasive, talkative, etc.
Hopefully this was of interest to someone. Categorising people with this system is a very natural, basic, *fast* way of gauging them and it's fairly accurate; it'd be cool if others started using it too.
There are correlations with jungian function theory, imo.
Choleric corresponds roughly with EJs, ie those with directive, external dynamics leads (Te or Fe). Sanguine is roughly those with high Fe (bubbliness), or high outer perception (Ne/Se). Melancholy - high on any of the inner functions, but there may be a tendency away from melancholy if you've got high Ti, since that tends to be detached and generally unflappable, ie phlegmatic. Except when a principle is violated, in which case they can become very mulish. Again, typical of phlegs.
Phlegs tend to be P types. Mel-phlegs or phleg-mels can be impossible to get moving. Choleric-mels or mel-cholerics usually go very deep and are very intense. Choleric-sanguines/sanguine-cholerics are intense outwardly. The last two types are very tiring for whoever's around them.
Brief descriptions of each temperament (dom):
Cholerics are harsh, pushy, bossy, directive, invasive, full of energy and drive. They make natural leaders and also natural dictators. Very Type A and usually achievement-oriented. If they have melancholy, their volume and invasiveness may be tempered. They probably have a 'cold fire' feeling to them (rather than the heat of a choleric sanguine). If the choleric has sanguine, that'll just magnify their loudness, pushiness and invasiveness, but it may also give them a slightly warmer, more human edge. Melancholys can be deeply concerned with human issues too, but the warmth is funneled in a more directed fashion. Typical introvert, better with one-on-one, more intense interactions. Cholerics can be nasty, domineering and simply take up too much space in a room. They also prickle horribly when in the presence of another choleric, unless they manage to click (in which case the prickles are set aside in favour of mutual ego-petting). Whether they follow through on projects depends. Melancholy makes it more likely.
Phlegmatics are low-energy, harmony-seeking, easygoing people who may find it hard to get anything done. May take the easy way out with everything at the expense of quality/morals. More prone to passive aggression. The friend who is a silent traitor in order to keep the peace and avoid trouble with another friend is typical of a bad phleg. Can be lovely, can also be spineless. Cholerics are doers, phlegs are avoiders. A good phleg can be the perfect combination of choleric strength and phleg placidity. Also tend to be good long-term workers, rather than short-dash initiators like cholerics (and sanguines especially). I think it's very easy for cholerics to tell when someone is phleg, because there are next to no prickles, unless they're in stubborn-mule mode, in which case things can feel very uncomfortable, coming up against the hard steel beneath their soft exterior. The doormat who suffers for years and eventually murders his wife in a fit of mad rage is also fairly typical of a phleg. Or even simply the doormat who decides after years of being hen-pecked that he won't back down on some small, insignificant issue, and becomes inordinately pigheaded.
Both sanguine and melancholy will add more energy, but sanguine will make them more likely to do things with others. Melancholy may tie them to eternal navel-gazing and depression. If melancholy is dominant though, they may get more things done. Can be good, serious long-term plodders.
Sanguines are bubbly, messy, disorganised, loud, sociable, extroverted, outgoing, optimistic people who can be very flakey and irresponsible. NO FOLLOW-THROUGH. They're lovely to have around (unless they're choleric, in which case they can be very tiring unless you've got enough push to withstand theirs), but they're also usually not very reliable. They tend to forget things, misplace things, be a bit vague, etc. They're generally ready with a laugh though. (Of course, you have ultra-developed types that are super organised, very responsible, etc, though you can still tell they've got sanguine over melancholy. I'm just talking about the standard, semi-developed models.) May appear superficial and fickle. Think ExFPs. They don't tend to hold grudges. They can have very quick tempers, but they cool down just as fast.
With phleg - lovely people, very forgetful, but good long-term happy plodders. With choleric - super loud, directive, initiators, up in everyone's business, but very inspirational. People mover.
Melancholys are 'deep', quiet, pensive, thoughtful, and often rather melancholy. They can be horribly sulky, also extremely stubborn, or pushy in a quiet, moody way. They're usually perfectionists, sometimes extremely so, and often quite finicky about hygiene and order. (Cholerics need order too, I think because they need to feel they're imposing on something.) They're also very good with detailed work. They can be great listeners, but they can also be the sort who know every boring detail there is to know on one topic and go on endlessly about it with fanatic intensity, oblivious to their prey's wild, horrified eyes.... Basically, think 'long and deep' for this type. Whether or not they come up with anything profound or worthwhile is another matter, but they do tend to plumb the depths of whatever they're doing (thinking, projects, precision, etc). They (usually but not always I think) need perfection, internal order and a lot of personal space. May tend to keep list of wrongs and favours owed.
With choleric - very determined, may be self-focused, quite antisocial. Can produce excellent results, can also just be a miserable person to have around.
Sanguines have dispersed outward energy, cholerics have directed outward energy, melancholys have deep inner energy, and phlegs have no energy. Haha. The last are the easiest to get along with.
Phlegmatics are low-energy, harmony-seeking, easygoing people who may find it hard to get anything done. May take the easy way out with everything at the expense of quality/morals. More prone to passive aggression. The friend who is a silent traitor in order to keep the peace and avoid trouble with another friend is typical of a bad phleg. Can be lovely, can also be spineless. Cholerics are doers, phlegs are avoiders. A good phleg can be the perfect combination of choleric strength and phleg placidity. Also tend to be good long-term workers, rather than short-dash initiators like cholerics (and sanguines especially). I think it's very easy for cholerics to tell when someone is phleg, because there are next to no prickles, unless they're in stubborn-mule mode, in which case things can feel very uncomfortable, coming up against the hard steel beneath their soft exterior. The doormat who suffers for years and eventually murders his wife in a fit of mad rage is also fairly typical of a phleg. Or even simply the doormat who decides after years of being hen-pecked that he won't back down on some small, insignificant issue, and becomes inordinately pigheaded.
Both sanguine and melancholy will add more energy, but sanguine will make them more likely to do things with others. Melancholy may tie them to eternal navel-gazing and depression. If melancholy is dominant though, they may get more things done. Can be good, serious long-term plodders.
Sanguines are bubbly, messy, disorganised, loud, sociable, extroverted, outgoing, optimistic people who can be very flakey and irresponsible. NO FOLLOW-THROUGH. They're lovely to have around (unless they're choleric, in which case they can be very tiring unless you've got enough push to withstand theirs), but they're also usually not very reliable. They tend to forget things, misplace things, be a bit vague, etc. They're generally ready with a laugh though. (Of course, you have ultra-developed types that are super organised, very responsible, etc, though you can still tell they've got sanguine over melancholy. I'm just talking about the standard, semi-developed models.) May appear superficial and fickle. Think ExFPs. They don't tend to hold grudges. They can have very quick tempers, but they cool down just as fast.
With phleg - lovely people, very forgetful, but good long-term happy plodders. With choleric - super loud, directive, initiators, up in everyone's business, but very inspirational. People mover.
Melancholys are 'deep', quiet, pensive, thoughtful, and often rather melancholy. They can be horribly sulky, also extremely stubborn, or pushy in a quiet, moody way. They're usually perfectionists, sometimes extremely so, and often quite finicky about hygiene and order. (Cholerics need order too, I think because they need to feel they're imposing on something.) They're also very good with detailed work. They can be great listeners, but they can also be the sort who know every boring detail there is to know on one topic and go on endlessly about it with fanatic intensity, oblivious to their prey's wild, horrified eyes.... Basically, think 'long and deep' for this type. Whether or not they come up with anything profound or worthwhile is another matter, but they do tend to plumb the depths of whatever they're doing (thinking, projects, precision, etc). They (usually but not always I think) need perfection, internal order and a lot of personal space. May tend to keep list of wrongs and favours owed.
With choleric - very determined, may be self-focused, quite antisocial. Can produce excellent results, can also just be a miserable person to have around.
Sanguines have dispersed outward energy, cholerics have directed outward energy, melancholys have deep inner energy, and phlegs have no energy. Haha. The last are the easiest to get along with.
I'm guessing a lot of people with Ne will feel like they're 'sanguine inside', even if they're dominated by Ti detachment or Fi pain. It's zany and humourous and happy.
Anyway, I'm guessing temperament informs type manifestation. So you might have an INTP that appears to have a lot of Fe push because he's choleric, and therefore someone who naturally has more aggression. But at the same time he *is* naturally adaptive, so he might appear oddly phleg and adaptable at the same time. (imo T, especially Ti, adds a little bit of phleg because of the personal detachment.) That pretty much describes me. (Choleric melancholy) Also Adymus, imo. If any of you remember his posts or videos you should get a good vibe for how cholerics look and sound.
Then you also have phleg INTPs, which are probably more natural. Like Auburn. He seems very warm and friendly, but I wouldn't really describe it as Fe push, or any kind of push actually. He stays well within his space. But if you trod on something and he doesn't like it, he can become very quietly stubborn. (At least, that's my impression.) There still isn't much push but he'll silently hold his ground. Phlegs can be very stubborn.
I'd say Ti and Fi appear phleg on the outside, but can have the strength of a choleric when challenged. Generally though, they're reactive and adaptive.
I've been wondering about functions and the brain recently. A hierarchy makes sense - a certain pattern of neural firing taking precedence over another - but I'm sure there are variations even within that, like how aggressive one is naturally, or how much force one puts into a Fe/Te push. Choleric/phleg helps explain that I think, and distinguishes between natural strength of will, and function order. (Being aggressive with Fe when you use it doesn't mean it's not taxing for you. It probably just means you're activating something else more, or releasing more of a hormone, than the phleg.)
Same goes for the sanguine-melancholy divide with Ne/Se.
The stereotype of ExFPs is the *quintessential* sanguine phleg. They're generally the nicest, easiest people to be around.
Interesting note - with couples, you almost never see a choleric paired with another choleric. It's very, very rare. Generally when you meet a couple you can easily pick out who's who. It's not *just* a matter of who wears the pants (because some phlegs can be very strong and defined) though that's a very good estimate. It's like that with good friends too, though less so. An underdeveloped choleric man with an underdeveloped phleg woman in a conservative/religious marriage is probably the most abusive, destructive combo you could have, with the choleric stamping the phleg into the ground, and the phleg too weak/ill-trained to defend herself, plus everything the choleric does is basically justified by their faith and prevailing misogyny only intensifies the validity of his natural push/aggression.
Having melancholy or sanguine as top can add strength/push/fire though, which can give the phleg a little more to work with.
Choleric sanguines (or sanguine cholerics) are probably the most hated people on this forum. They're loud, pushy, bossy, argumentative, rude, invasive, talkative, etc.
Hopefully this was of interest to someone. Categorising people with this system is a very natural, basic, *fast* way of gauging them and it's fairly accurate; it'd be cool if others started using it too.
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Sanguine? that can't be right.
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Your temperment is phlegmatic. The phlegmatic temperament is fundamentally relaxed and quiet, ranging from warmly attentive to lazily sluggish. Phlegmatics tend to be content with themselves and are kind. They are accepting and affectionate. They may be receptive and shy and often prefer stability to uncertainty and change. They are consistent, relaxed, calm, rational, curious, and observant, qualities that make them good administrators. They can also be passive-aggressive.
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descibes me? descibes me not ... 
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Phlegmatic.