Fi & Fe

[thoughtfully]

Is there something I dont get about the MBTI and feelings? I can feel my own feelings and be aware when others are feeling something. I thought the MBTI says I must favor one or the other. What is wrong with this? Doesnt everyone know there own feelings? Cant you tell when someone is hanging on you? I'm not aware of giving one priority over the over. Feelings are feelings.

 

[QuickTwist]

There is a simple answer to this question that does not require much work for me to solve your problem.

Read this.

 

[Black Rose]

Fe goes an external standard, it is kind of clueless about hidden feelings people have
Fi is all about hidden feelings, it can know you better than you know yourself

 

[thoughtfully]

I see no reason why anyone can't look in and out. Yesterday I saw a thread about bannings. I felt it never went anywhere. Everyone had an opinon but nothing stuck together. There was no one facilitating. I thought INTPs were supposed to be good at analysis. I saw no harmony not getting anywhere so the thread had to be put to rest. People seem to hate deviance and it's upsetting no one took a view how to handle it.

The point is I was disappointed. Not everyone reading is an old timer. Everything is new to a newbie. This website seems to be like that. I'm sure it has a lot of terrific potential. You could have great topics like Freedom of speech, How to deal with the deviant personality, Creativeness disruptive or constuctive?, Political factions come to mind. Yet people are fighting with each other instead of making progress. I suppose thats the way it is here. Do you see why that is both Fi and Fe for me? Maybe I need to lurk more.

 

[QuickTwist]

You are INFJ, no doubt in my mind.

 

[thoughtfully]

You say that with such confidence. What affect do you think this will have on the forum? I feel a change; something.. How much do you care? You must care some. I'm afraid for you.

 

[TheManBeyond]

Obvious ESFJ.

 

[Fukyo]

I see no reason why anyone can't look in and out. Yesterday I saw a thread about bannings. I felt it never went anywhere. Everyone had an opinon but nothing stuck together. There was no one facilitating. I thought INTPs were supposed to be good at analysis. I saw no harmony not getting anywhere so the thread had to be put to rest. People seem to hate deviance and it's upsetting no one took a view how to handle it.

The point is I was disappointed. Not everyone reading is an old timer. Everything is new to a newbie. This website seems to be like that. I'm sure it has a lot of terrific potential. You could have great topics like Freedom of speech, How to deal with the deviant personality, Creativeness disruptive or constuctive?, Political factions come to mind. Yet people are fighting with each other instead of making progress. I suppose thats the way it is here. Do you see why that is both Fi and Fe for me? Maybe I need to lurk more.

Maybe you need to find another hobby old man.

 

[QuickTwist]

I can't say I've had many people be afraid for me. But seriously, you don't have to worry. I'm fine. I look a lot crazier than I really am.

And yes I do care, a lot. Just so you know.

 

[Jennywocky]

Maybe you need to find another hobby old man.

Please say it's not him again.

I thought he was happy at Pers Cafe.

 

[Black Rose]

I see no reason why anyone can't look in and out. Yesterday I saw a thread about bannings. I felt it never went anywhere. Everyone had an opinon but nothing stuck together. There was no one facilitating. I thought INTPs were supposed to be good at analysis. I saw no harmony not getting anywhere so the thread had to be put to rest. People seem to hate deviance and it's upsetting no one took a view how to handle it.

The point is I was disappointed. Not everyone reading is an old timer. Everything is new to a newbie. This website seems to be like that. I'm sure it has a lot of terrific potential. You could have great topics like Freedom of speech, How to deal with the deviant personality, Creativeness disruptive or constuctive?, Political factions come to mind. Yet people are fighting with each other instead of making progress. I suppose thats the way it is here. Do you see why that is both Fi and Fe for me? Maybe I need to lurk more.

If you understood Fi you would know why it happened instead of being upset that it did happen. Fe wants everything to work together but things don't go that way so Fe finds ways of correcting it. It might be that they see this happen and have practices being an intermediary between people where as if you saw what i said was directed generally and personally. Fi is one on one. The dispute people have with each other is not something we can control. Only with being an example can good behavior be understood. It is not that both Fi and Fe cannot be examples but Fe cant see why people act as individuals. The motive of a person with Fi can be understood by knowing that they engage individuals not groups. Inside the mindset of a group is not the inside of an individual.

This is why Jung wrote things about Extroversion as being kind of superficial. It is not that it cannot solve problems in its own domain but that it cannot see behind the Introvert identity as well as the reverse case. Introverts can encompass the Extroverted perspective and people have both introverted and extroverted perspectives. This is why some people can know others well enough by sharing characteristics. The problem is not knowing why they don't share them. Instead they see them as bad or untrue but instead it is just ignorance because they cannot know as much as the person who knows more in their area.

I hope you can see why they are different now.

 

[JansenDowel]

Is there something I dont get about the MBTI and feelings? I can feel my own feelings and be aware when others are feeling something. I thought the MBTI says I must favor one or the other. What is wrong with this? Doesnt everyone know there own feelings? Cant you tell when someone is hanging on you? I'm not aware of giving one priority over the over. Feelings are feelings.

I also have both. Fi is more developed than Fe though.

 

[thoughtfully]

Up Yours U worthless POS! Some people contribute nothing to this forum except to throw their weight around and feel inportant causing pain to others. INTPs don't like derogatory ad hominems. I would encourage such people be reported. Anyone and everyone who sees this should speak up and say something ... all within the rules of course.

 

[thoughtfully]

I have to calm down. Seems to me there are a few people who would like to inflict the same kind of exclusonary pain on others they have gone though themselves. This makes them just like those who have excluded them. What's with that? Why not try to improve things and accept those who are willing to improve things? I may feel sorrow for those who have been rejected. On the other hand I'd like to see those who did the rejecting forgiven. That should take the pain away. You have to give up seeking revenge.

 

[QuickTwist]

I miss him already.

 

[ENTP lurker]

Fi feels the process while Ti analyzes it.

You can recognize Fi (dom) user from their speak which describes automatically different processes from experience point of view. It does not dissect them into systems. They like solutions/directions etc so they gravitate towards ExTJs. I have to use lot of Te (in form of specific HOWTOs or even taking control) around INFPs. It makes me quite tired.

Fe (dom) puts up show for the audience and likes to learn from analysis provided by others. They love to discuss (their) things with IxTPs just to make their internal systems clearer.