Explain maths to NFs and other non-NT-types

[JoeJoe]

How is the best way to explain maths and science to other temperaments? I've found that for some it's best when they have a system they can use, which they don't have to understand. Maybe our INFJ friends can be a help? *peers at snail and Fukyo*

 

[Fukyo]

*Snail and I are INFPs*

I don't know if that's what you were trying to say but NTs are not the only ones able to understand science. Each person who has the interest in something and is willing to try can understand it.If the person in question doesn't have any interest in science maybe finding and bringing out a certain aspect of chemistry or physics which is connected to something they like would help.
For NFs giving them reading material maybe.I was always interested in biology and chemistry and reading about it was usually enough to understand it.

 

[didyouknow]

Fukyo, as far as I understand, he was merely wondering how other types learn best. I, for example, can not understand maths properly until I go home and go backwards to explain how they came up with the formula. If I don't understand how it came about, then I can't use it in an equation. I also have trouble "rope-learning" because I need to be able to see things as a system or I won't understand it.

I'm not sure about other types, but they seem to be better at applying the mathematics to solve problems (in my opinion, anyway). So perhaps they just need to know what formula or equation solves what problem and be able to remember that in the exam.

 

[Fukyo]

I was talking about theoretical stuff which I best comprehend through reading and then thinking about it afterwards.I generally don't do good when it comes to applying that theory on problems.When I think about math I try to find patterns which I can apply to similar problems and connect them with previous knowledge.

 

[Yozuki]

I cannot understand theoretical math, math to prove a point (infamous 1 = 2) or math outside of a fixed system. If it is for a practical problem or a problem I'm currently researching, it suddenly comes easy. I'm not sure why.

 

[Wisp]

Have you decided you're an NF at this point? (@Yozuki)

 

[JoeJoe]

To make it interesting might help, but I'm not sure. I'm waiting for more ideas.

 

[Yozuki]

Have you decided you're an NF at this point? (@Yozuki)

I've decided I act like an ESFP in behavior and think like a XXTP.

 

[Chimera]

I've decided I act like an ESFP in behavior and think like a XXTP.

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Yay, another X person! (:
(I've decided I'm primarily INXX)
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[Sugarpop]

I sit next to an ESFJ in my math class. I notice that she's rather quick to despair when doing math, though she is normally more confident than I

She seems to focus more on the 'how' than the 'why'.

 

[anemian]

Oh that's simple. I had to teach my sister some of the basic algebra that teachers just can't get through to students after semesters of the stuff. While I got to cheat and not have to teach from scratch I did have to figure out where the problem was.

It was describing and showing her the rules that people actually use for all operations instead of what the book was trying to force through to her. Basically all the years of education forced in her head that with each chapter that they were doing something different instead of the same thing in a different way.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

Hate to seem rude but there is not XXXX types, your either one or the other. And so im not off topic, i have had to explain math to my mother who im sure is an ISTJ, we were working on adding, subtracting, dividing, and multiplying fractions. I tried teaching her by compareing the numbers to simple things that literally had nothing in common with the fraction or what you would have to think about to complete the problem, just so i could keep her attention and make her feel like she understood what was going on instead of getting frustrated and giving up. For example, i wrote up a paper with 10 fractions that i wanted her to simplify. i made it so that the answer to every question was 1/2 other then the last 3 so i i could tell if she saw a pattern and jumped ahead and put 1/2 for them all. She got them all wrong until i went back and applied a second meaning to the fractions for her like i said, which just happened to be mental patients, which she worked with for 20 years. Once i said imagine if the 26 out of 13/26 was the number of patients that you have and the 13 is the amount that you have to feed. then i asked her how many of the patients she would have to feed and she said half, it was that simple comparison that made it clear to her.